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21  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: August 05, 2014, 01:14:45 AM
Here's hoping the volatility picks up. A lot.

Im not counting on it. Both the spread and volatility have decreased dramatically. There are new players in arbitrage now; with lots of coins and good software. Dont expect them to make any announcements, they wont seek any new investors, and they have no desire to be publicly known.

Additionally, the regulations proposed in New York will shut down all legitimate Bitcoin-based investments (they effectively say that the company cant hold any bitcoin except the exact amount given by customers, and therefore anyone doing arbitrage wont be able to legally buy or sell if they have any New York customers). This is a very big threat to both the BTC investing community and the Bitcoin community as a whole, as investment money was expected to increase the value of bitcoin and help improve liquidity worldwide.

I dont envy Btc-Arbs. He/they have my respect for refunding customers, coming out with honest info, and staying in touch with the community. The days of easy profit are pretty near an end.


Personally, Im considering if it's worth my time to make the next set of upgrades on my system. I can still make more than $2 per btc per day, but only on low volume - it would bring less income than my day job.


On a final note for everyone, don't put any money into any HYIP at all. The profits dont exist anymore, and any program accepting any US customers will invariably have a NY resident or two and the entire program will be illegal - customers wont be subject to any legal repercussions, but the operator will be and may have all their assets confiscated. If you want to invest in Bitcoin or invest with Bitcoin, the best way is to get off the internet and start pushing it in real life. See how your professional skills can be used in the Bitcoin economy.

No, this law does not stop a person from doing arbitrage, much less customers in NY from working with sites outside of NY. The law is an attempt to license dealers. Basically Dealers would undergo background checks and would have to show that business would be conducted "honestly, fairly, equitably, carefully, and efficiently." Strait out of the liberal book of idiots yelling "more government please"! However; no place does it say a person that invest money with someone/business in another state, country, or planet that is unlicensed would make the later someone/business illegal.
22  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: August 04, 2014, 04:48:41 AM
It has been a while since my last payment...... not trying to jump ahead of those that haven't received anything yet, just keeping my name in the mix. Hoping for something again soon.
23  Other / Archival / Re: ••••• BitEmpower.com - Stable Bitcoin HYIP | Up to 720%ROI/yr | Daily ROI ••••• on: August 04, 2014, 04:18:03 AM

Actually I sent money to the 114% plan, but I'll take the 110.25% if that's were you need to invest it first.
24  Other / Archival / Re: ••••• BitEmpower.com - Stable Bitcoin HYIP | Up to 720%ROI/yr | Daily ROI ••••• on: August 03, 2014, 07:18:44 PM
I sent a minimum in also..... lets see where this goes.
25  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: August 02, 2014, 07:07:45 PM
tiny payouts per day...
keeping an eye on this one see if they pull a run-away when they start sending bigger payouts

hate to say I told you all so, but eh... I told you so. Terrible english, free script, long term plans...scam was to obvious.

That's why I only invested 6 dollars.
Sad to see that someone would go out of there way to make a site only to scam for $6.
Well, better $6 than $60 or $6000 I guess, could have been worse.
Send me your BTC address, I'll give you $6 worth of BTC to cover your loss Smiley

lol, not a big deal, but who am I to pass up 6 dollars: 1G5auWdaKDvwjAh8gbsriYS7DBvDwsgtiU
Sent
https://blockchain.info/tx/a51fd1738a2d5be928952564c37dee3977099020015c6aa008673ce616b69407
Try to avoid obvious scams using free scripts next time Wink

Wow thanks Smiley
26  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: August 02, 2014, 03:37:40 PM
tiny payouts per day...
keeping an eye on this one see if they pull a run-away when they start sending bigger payouts

hate to say I told you all so, but eh... I told you so. Terrible english, free script, long term plans...scam was to obvious.

That's why I only invested 6 dollars.
Sad to see that someone would go out of there way to make a site only to scam for $6.
Well, better $6 than $60 or $6000 I guess, could have been worse.
Send me your BTC address, I'll give you $6 worth of BTC to cover your loss Smiley

lol, not a big deal, but who am I to pass up 6 dollars: 1G5auWdaKDvwjAh8gbsriYS7DBvDwsgtiU
27  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: August 02, 2014, 07:09:55 AM
tiny payouts per day...
keeping an eye on this one see if they pull a run-away when they start sending bigger payouts

hate to say I told you all so, but eh... I told you so. Terrible english, free script, long term plans...scam was to obvious.

That's why I only invested 6 dollars.
28  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: August 02, 2014, 03:37:22 AM
Well I won't make negative comments if he pays everyday as he promised. If he doesn't pay everyday like yesterday he should expect negative comments.

The problem is that he can't. There's no way to guarantee 12% profit per day.

Well he should have stated he will pay 12% every other day or once a week or whatever. But it was daily he said, so if he can't do it he should deal with the negative comments.
29  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: August 02, 2014, 12:36:16 AM
You are the one that said you would pay daily, when you miss a day it means you did not up hold your end of the agreement. You can uphold what you agreed too or you can expect negative comments.  It's that simple!

He deleted the last two posts I made which pointed out the impossibility of the offer he makes in this thread.

If this post is deleted too, I will post the deleted messages in a trust feedback posts instead.

Beware. OP doesn't want you to hear about how 12% per day isn't sustainable.

Well I won't make negative comments if he pays everyday as he promised. If he doesn't pay everyday like yesterday he should expect negative comments.
30  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: August 01, 2014, 09:34:21 PM
It's gotten to be where I have to get online to remind you to send payment ahhhhg!
Payment 01/08 has been made.
https://blockchain.info/tx/af3ad6018ea9a1c5d7632b68b72e4fbf978c7507ed0c7e617fcbba9e5d41d9ad
Today we are busy with work. We can only online now. Please do not post negative feedback before payment is made. you get paid at any time during the day. GMT London.
You can stop any time. And we will refund the amount you invest.
Just send feedback here.

You are the one that said you would pay daily, when you miss a day it means you did not up hold your end of the agreement. You can uphold what you agreed too or you can expect negative comments.  It's that simple!
31  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: August 01, 2014, 06:07:51 AM
It's gotten to be where I have to get online to remind you to send payment ahhhhg!
32  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: July 31, 2014, 05:46:29 AM
Yep daily payment is here!
33  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: July 31, 2014, 03:54:20 AM
Today I have to get online and state that there has been no payment, it's much later than usual, if it's going to come at all.
34  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: July 31, 2014, 03:51:58 AM
Why were my messages deleted?
Sorry for delay. Payment today: https://blockchain.info/tx/da0f7682f8e79b28be903479f5a4433e05f1de4330d125653be79fa632f3f5e3
hey lesnod11. if you are so worried about my program. You can stop at any time. So I know I will refund your money. Along with a bonus

I don't have enough here to be worried, it's all a test for me.
Ok.I think you worry. So I can be refunded to you from our capital.

I'm going to tell it like it is: If I'm paid I will state it, if I'm not I will state it. It's not a matter of worry, you do what you said and pay daily and I will make sure to make it know as a positive thing.
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can bitcoin overcome the actual currency? will the wolrd bank allow it? on: July 30, 2014, 06:38:08 AM
The IRS is calling it 'property' and wants to tax it..... don't get me started on the IRS, but as for btc: I would say the fact that it's raising questions and that organizations like the IRS are addressing it, shows that it's moving in the direction where banks like the 'wolrd' bank have to both address it and I believe at some point start treating it like a currency.
36  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: July 30, 2014, 01:25:20 AM
Why were my messages deleted?
Sorry for delay. Payment today: https://blockchain.info/tx/da0f7682f8e79b28be903479f5a4433e05f1de4330d125653be79fa632f3f5e3
hey lesnod11. if you are so worried about my program. You can stop at any time. So I know I will refund your money. Along with a bonus

I don't have enough here to be worried, it's all a test for me.
37  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: July 30, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
Why were my messages deleted?
Mine were too. The thread is sadly self-moderated, so people thinking of investing should be careful, as the thread is not transparent.

I don't think he liked me posting the results here - lol
38  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: July 30, 2014, 01:19:18 AM
Why were my messages deleted?
39  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: July 29, 2014, 02:32:12 PM
Whenever I search for this thread there are 3 or 4 threads all of the same subject..... why don't you point everyone to one thread and leave the discussion there?
40  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★☆★ BtcInv.club | Bitcoin Investment |UP to 12% Daily Profit ★☆★ on: July 28, 2014, 05:16:27 AM
I've received a sixth of my original investment back, or about 1 dollar from the 6 dollars I invested.
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