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21  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 05, 2018, 11:30:09 AM
Copy paste from cloudbet.com website:

"Cloudbet is a licensed bitcoin betting site by E-Gambling Montenegro.

E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o (Podgorica, Moskovska br. 65., reg. no. 5-0615951) hereby certifies that under the concession (serial no. AA 001588, numeric no. 133-01/15 5A i 1ERR) and approval (no. 02/02-118/4), organize and operate games of chance in Montenegro on website  in accordance with the Agreement on management and financial cooperation, concluded between E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. and TIGER TREE HOLDINGS do.o.o (Cetinje, Njegoseva br. 97., reg. no. 50721755) TIN: 03035166 on 5 March, 2015 which is valid from 05 March, 2017 until 05 September 2018."


Cloudbet.com facts and figures:

  • Cloudbet.com has no license whatsoever
    E Gambling Montenegro has no licence - it was revoked from them last year. E gambling Montenegro by the law CAN NOT give gambling licenses to other companies.
    Company that is behind Cloudbet.com is Tiger Tree Holding DOO which is opened up on stolen ID and it is a case of Identity theft
    Tiger Tree Holdings DOO location is an empty store front in Cetinje, Montenegro. Also on this address there are 12 more other companies registered - also frauds.


THESE ARE FACTS!
22  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 05, 2018, 10:22:46 AM
LATEST INFORMATION:

Uprava za igre na sreću of Montenegro or in English authority for gambling and online gambling has revoked licence from E GAMBLING MONTENEGRO due to debts for taxes and because they did not connect to online surveliance of their business operatives in field of online gambling.


I will provide evidence for this with proper documentation very soon.



CLOUDBET HAS:

ABSOLUTLY NO LICENSE
OWNERS ARE BASED ON IDENTITY THEFT
AND THEIR LOCATION IN MONTENEGRO IS AN EMPTY STORE FRONT



THESE ARE FACTS!
23  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 05, 2018, 10:10:38 AM
@gge thank you for the information, please contact me via PM as you have disabled contact from "newbies"
24  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 05, 2018, 07:43:22 AM
Everyone please be aware that @Cloudbet has never answered a single question with a FACT, he is mentioning some ADR but never stated who or what they are or even stated EVIDENCE for not paying out their players.

On the other hand Cloudbet as a provider of gambling services CAN NOT freeze players assets/funds or BTC in this case - that is also a FACT.
25  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 05, 2018, 07:33:55 AM
Location of Tiger Tree Holdings DOO (company that is behind Cloudbet) also the location of TWELVE (12) other companies on the same address:



Njegoseva street, house number 97, Cetinje Montenegro
26  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 05, 2018, 07:27:21 AM
E Gambling Montenegro DOO owes Montenegro 213.872,79 EUROS for unpaid taxes.


139. place (13th page)

http://www.poreskauprava.gov.me/ResourceManager/FileDownload.aspx?rId=228069&rType=2
27  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 05, 2018, 07:19:39 AM
@ betcloud-is-a-scam

I see now the company registration info for Tiger Tree Holdings, but where is the company registration info for E-Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. in Podgorica?

If I put E-Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. or the registration number 5-0615951 into https://opencorporates.com/companies/me/50721755 it says found 0 companies!

Have you seen the license issued by the Ministry of Montenegro to E-Gambling Montenegro d.o.o.?


Cloudbet is registered under company called TIGER TREE HOLDINGS with address in Cetinje, Montenegro - https://opencorporates.com/companies/me/50721755
The company info does not state that Tiger Tree Holdings is operator of Cloudbet?

How do you know that Cloudbet is operated by Tiger Tree Holdings? Any documents confirming this?

I will provide information about E Gambling Montenegro tomorrow.

Here is the official document issued by Montenegro goverment. Please note that cloudbet is not among sites who have a valid licence from E Gambling Montenegro - page 2 of the document.


http://www.upravazaigrenasrecu.me/1/images/Ugovori/Internet/Egambling.pdf
Thank you very much!

Is this the document the Government of Montenegro currently publicly states? Because this license is 3,5 years old!

http://www.upravazaigrenasrecu.me/1/index.php/en/

You can see in that link what is the purpose of this ministry.

Also, they were given licence back in 2015 and the duration of these licences are 3 years. Since the contract was signed 10th of February 2015. E gambling Montenegro lost its licence!
28  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 04, 2018, 04:44:04 PM
@ betcloud-is-a-scam

I see now the company registration info for Tiger Tree Holdings, but where is the company registration info for E-Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. in Podgorica?

If I put E-Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. or the registration number 5-0615951 into https://opencorporates.com/companies/me/50721755 it says found 0 companies!

Have you seen the license issued by the Ministry of Montenegro to E-Gambling Montenegro d.o.o.?


Cloudbet is registered under company called TIGER TREE HOLDINGS with address in Cetinje, Montenegro - https://opencorporates.com/companies/me/50721755
The company info does not state that Tiger Tree Holdings is operator of Cloudbet?

How do you know that Cloudbet is operated by Tiger Tree Holdings? Any documents confirming this?

I will provide information about E Gambling Montenegro tomorrow.

Here is the official document issued by Montenegro goverment. Please note that cloudbet is not among sites who have a valid licence from E Gambling Montenegro - page 2 of the document.


http://www.upravazaigrenasrecu.me/1/images/Ugovori/Internet/Egambling.pdf
29  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 04, 2018, 04:36:57 PM
@betcloud-is-a-scam/Kukulelema/betexpert2018/Kraac

Creating multiple accounts on Bitcoin Talk to make your claims and dispute the decision taken by the ADR will not result in any changes, they are an independent organisation that works to mediate these conflicts. We complied fully with their investigation and based on the evidence we provided they sided with Cloudbet in this instance.

For anyone keeping score, and without giving away private information, this is the same group of accounts that have been back and forth on the forums for the past week or so, who were caught deliberately breaking our terms and conditions and then threatened us with bad PR when action was taken against them.

We are here to help to rectify issues for our players, but cannot allow Cloudbet to be publicly attacked in this manner by fraudulent account holders.

Thanks very much,

Ronnie @ Cloudbet



This absolutly not true.

With who you worked with? With some organization you just made up???

Provide me, or anyone else with valid evidence. You have not even replied to any of my emails!
30  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 04, 2018, 01:40:06 PM

I am collecting evidence against them with my lawyers from montenegro as that is where their headquaters are.
Do you have documents or confirmation from authorities in Montenegro about their company registration in Podgorica?

https://www.cloudbet.com/en/license

Cloudbet is registered under company called TIGER TREE HOLDINGS with address in Cetinje, Montenegro - https://opencorporates.com/companies/me/50721755

Their licence issuer is E GABMLING MONTENEGRO, that company is actually holder of ONE SINGLE licence from Ministry of Monetenegro and they are reissuing their licence to bunch of turkish and asian scam bookies like cloudbet. E GAMBLING MONTENEGRO is selling their "licence" to these scammers for 30,000-40,000 euro, where actually regular gambling licence from Maltese gambling authorites costs around 400,000 euros.


Owner of TIGER TREE HOLDINGS is Julka Vucinic who was not aware that this company is opened up on her name (she is 68 years old) and she also filed this claim to the police department for identity theft and fraud. She lives in Podgorica, Montenegro.

Location of TIGER TREE HOLDINGS (company behind Cloudbet) in Cetinje is an empty shop with a sign - FOR RENT on it.


I will continue posting information about these FRAUDS until they pay out every single DIME they have stolen from its users.
31  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 04, 2018, 08:11:30 AM
@Kukulelema Your case has already been made to our ADR, we cooperated fully with their investigation and provided them with the evidence we had collected of your activities. They sided with Cloudbet and their decision is final, because of this we won't be in contact regarding your case again.

@game-protect I can see that Peter previously asked you to refrain from posting on our thread to promote your services and affiliate links, but I am also worried about people with low trust giving potentially misleading legal advice to our players on our thread. I can see you have your own thread in the gambling section which would be the correct place to promote your services.

Thanks very much,

Ronnie @ Cloudbet


This answer is of a retarded person! What you wanted to say is that your decision to STEAL BTC from this player is final???
32  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 04, 2018, 08:02:56 AM
I have opened up this account to WARN everyone that CLOUDBET is a scam gambling website!

Also anyone who has been scammed by CLOUDBET please PM so we could group up and DESTROY them. I am collecting evidence against them with my lawyers from montenegro as that is where their headquaters are.

This is my case with them, please also share yours:

I have registered on CLOUDBET some 20 days ago, deposited BTC couple of times, was placing bets and all of a sudden by account was locked! I thought I forgot password but when I contacted them on chat they wrote my account was "frozen" pending an investigation and I should send an email to them, I have sent several emails and contacted them on chat multiple times and 10 days after my account was "frozen" still no reply!!!

They are in attempt of stealing 0.9499 BTC from me, and I know I am not the only one they are trying to scam.

CLOUD BET IS A SCAM AND WE HAVE TO STOP THEM!
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