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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 28, 2018, 06:53:01 PM
The global economy is nearly 80 trillion USD per year.  Payments using any type of cryptocurrency as a medium of payment is a tiny fraction of this total.

What are some of the reasons preventing cryptocurrency from being more successful as a medium of payment?
the absence of regulation becomes the most important consideration for businessmen do not use crypto currency, they prefer paypal because there is already regulation.
The obstacle mentioned the most on this thread is lack of support from governments and their regulators.  For a cryptocurrency to gain such support it will need to collaborate with regulators to help them understand how cryptocurrency can help them do their job better than can be done with cash or card payments.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 26, 2018, 04:03:42 AM
a lot of factors that make this system becomes less so successful. the most visible reason is about understanding crypto from different societies which is certainly there that still lay against the crypto. not even the few who still reject the bad and think about this. the other reason of course because the number has not been supporting facilities to it especially for many developing countries in the world.
I agree that there is a lot of effort to get consumers to understand what cryptocurrency is, how it works, why they should trust it, and, most importantly, what about it is better than paying with cash, cheques, or credit/debit cards.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 25, 2018, 06:31:44 AM
Cryptos especially altcoins are already became succesful as a form of payment medium online because they are seem to be fast and cost less in transaction fees .

however , bitcoin is the one that may seem to be failed as a payment medium because of its slow process and high/expensive transaction fees .

 these is also the reason on why most of the people are only using bitcoin as an asset tool for trading or investing .
No doubt the slow transaction rates and high transaction fees are obstacles to use as medium of payment.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 24, 2018, 11:30:46 PM
The cryptocurrency market is a fairly young phenomenon, so far the market capitalization is so small. I think that the first bar for the cryptocurrency market will be the capitalization of one trillion dollars.

Considering that the global economy is about 80 trillion USD per yer and the market capitalization of all cryptocurrencies is less than one trillion USD, I think it is fair to say that crypto payments haven't been successful yet.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 21, 2018, 10:10:55 PM
For the next 10 years, cryptos will become famous and become the global currency of the entire world. At that time, cryptocurrency will replace real money to become the most popular currency in the world . However there is massive adoption of cryptocurrency recently that even these regulations will be a thing of the past.
I agree.

It's going to take innovation because I don't see any existing cryptocurrency that addresses the obstacles mentioned in this thread.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 19, 2018, 03:21:38 AM
The thing is, if Ethereum can be used as a currency everywhere, you can have all your liquidity/cash/money in ETH. You don't need to have FIAT then, because FIAT is missing out on ETH gains.

So if you then buy something with ETH, it does not matter, since all your liquidity is ETH. If I can buy anything I want with ETH without converting first to FIAT, I'd like to live 100% with ETH and have almost no FIAT.
Yes, this is the place where everyone must arrive to appreciate the true power of using cryptocurrency as a medium of payment.  That you purchase everything with a cryptocurrency and every seller, employee, supplier, government gets paid in cryptocurrency.

Once people arrive here, the days of fiat currency may be short.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 19, 2018, 02:15:17 AM
People are always afraid of what they do not understand, this is normal. Bank cards are also immediately came to replace cash. Soon crypto-currencies will enter our lives as well.
It took decades before bank cards were widely used. It should NOT take that long before cryptocurrencies will be widely used.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 14, 2018, 04:35:28 PM
The global economy is nearly 80 trillion USD per year.  Payments using any type of cryptocurrency as a medium of payment is a tiny fraction of this total.

What are some of the reasons preventing cryptocurrency from being more successful as a medium of payment?
The possible reason maybe is due to the market volatility. The market value of most cryptos are suddenly changing from time to time which serves as a risk that there'll be times that profit will be lost. Consistency on the market value of a currency is really important to have equality in the market which is not present to most of the cryptos given that they are naturally volatile.
No doubt that extreme price volatility such as BTCexperienced between November 2017 and February 2018 could be an obstacle.  However, since May 2018 BTC price has been similar to many fiat currencies.  For the past six weeks BTC has been more stable than the US dollar.

So, I don't believe price volatility is a significant obstacle preventing people from using a cryptocurrency for a medium of payment.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 14, 2018, 07:11:41 AM
The global economy is nearly 80 trillion USD per year.  Payments using any type of cryptocurrency as a medium of payment is a tiny fraction of this total.

What are some of the reasons preventing cryptocurrency from being more successful as a medium of payment?
In order to use the crypto currency more as a means of payment, at least two conditions are necessary: legalization in most countries and the creation of an appropriate infrastructure for its real application. For the time being, the infrastructure for applying crypto currency is still not sufficiently developed and there are big problems with its legalization.
Cryptocurrencies is legal as a medium of payment in most jurisdictions.   No jurisdiction enthusiastically supports any cryptocurrency because they see cryptocurrency as a tool to evade regulation.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 12, 2018, 04:21:32 AM
Cryptocurrency can possibly be seen as a commodity, a form of digital gold (in the case cryptos like Ethereum, "digital oil"), stocks and shares in technology, and so on. But why would anyone want to use something as a currency that could potentially go up 2x, 10x, 20x in a few months?

Normal fiat currency like USD and EUR is relatively stable and lacks volatility, e.g. the price of a can of Coke hasn't changed much in 10 years.

Crypto is completely different. it's far more volatile and acts like stocks/shares or investments rather than national currencies

If I have holdings of fiat and holdings of shares - which should I use to buy a TV now? the fiat obviously

Why liquidize an investment that could be worth far more in the future over using fiat that will probably be worth approx the same?
For the past 10 years inflation has been exceptionally low in countries such as the US value of the fiat currency hasn't changed much in value.  On the hand, in countries such as Argentina with hyperinflation the value of fiat currency has changed dramatically.

And yes, some cryptocurrency are designed to be held as an investment.  After their ICO few rise or fall in value of over 100% in a few months.  For certain, bitcoin did between November 2017 and February 2018.  Since then, it has been stable.  The past month bitcoin has been more stable than the USD.

Lastly, people sell some their investments (stocks, bonds, commodities, precious metal, and so forth) all the time to get fiat currency to purchase goods and services including TVs.

What I think impacts the decision to use cryptocurrency for a medium of payment is what benefit does it provide buyers and sellers.  Consumers that don't have access to banking services such as bank accounts or credit/debit cards it provides a way to make electronic payments or remittances anywhere in the world.  For sellers it provides an electronic (not cash) payment with little to no transaction fees.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 12, 2018, 03:13:17 AM
Taking cryptocurrencies to pay for goods and services is risky for traders themselves because of the high volatility of crypto currencies. The rate of any cryptocurrency changes so quickly that it would have to change the whole time of the price or attach to the dollar, which depreciates the use of cryptocurrencies.
That is a problem without a doubt, the volatile nature of cryptocurrencies can make it difficult for merchants to accept cryptocurrencies as a payment method, but as far as I can remember there are some services that allow you to convert your bitcoin immediately to fiat, that way you do not risk your profits in the market of cryptocurrencies, but those services come with a price and if the profits you get in your business are very small this could take an important part of your profits away from your pocket.
I agree the most effective tactic to navigate the obstacle of price volatility is a cryptocurrency where the cycle time from when a buyer converts fiat currency into this cryptocurrency, then makes a purchase using this cryptocurrency, and finally, to when the seller converts this cryptocurrency back into fiat currency can happen within a few minutes, if the buyer and seller desire it.  The result is neither the buyer nor the seller are exposed to price volatility over such a short duration.

And, yes, for this to be practical there needs to no or very small transaction fees.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 11, 2018, 05:32:28 AM
The global economy is nearly 80 trillion USD per year.  Payments using any type of cryptocurrency as a medium of payment is a tiny fraction of this total.

What are some of the reasons preventing cryptocurrency from being more successful as a medium of payment?
because cryptocurrency is just a digital currency that can not be in the hence of that many people who can not do sales and payment premises cryptocurrency if we want to make payment we must exchange it first to the rupiah and can only make payment
For certain, sellers need the infrastructure to accept a cryptocurrency.  So, there needs to be a way to make it easy and very low cost (ideally, free) for sellers to add the ability for their point of sale or "POS" system to accept a cryptocurrency.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 11, 2018, 05:28:48 AM
Taking cryptocurrencies to pay for goods and services is risky for traders themselves because of the high volatility of crypto currencies. The rate of any cryptocurrency changes so quickly that it would have to change the whole time of the price or attach to the dollar, which depreciates the use of cryptocurrencies.
The price of bitcoin during the past month has been more stable than the US dollar.  So, I don't agree there is high price volatility.

There was high price volatility between November 2017 and February 2018.  Since early May the price hasn't been that volatile.

bitcoin will still volatile in the future and I think it makes bitcoin cannot be used as the payment. the seller and the buyer don't like to see the price always changes from time to time and they still prefer with fiat for making a transaction. maybe there will be coins that can accommodate about the price so that coin can help cryptocurrency to be used as the payment.
Of course, none of us know how volatile bitcoin, or any cryptocurrency, may be in the future.  My observation is over the past few months the price has been stable.

Regardless of volatility, the most effective tactic to navigate the obstacle of price volatility is a cryptocurrency where the cycle time from when a buyer converts fiat currency into this cryptocurrency, then makes a purchase using this cryptocurrency, and finally, to when the seller converts this cryptocurrency back into fiat currency can happen within a few minutes, if the buyer and seller desire it.  The result is neither the buyer nor the seller are exposed to price volatility over such a short duration.

To my knowledge, no such cryptocurrency, or blockchain, exists that has such a short cycle time.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 11, 2018, 02:53:39 AM
Taking cryptocurrencies to pay for goods and services is risky for traders themselves because of the high volatility of crypto currencies. The rate of any cryptocurrency changes so quickly that it would have to change the whole time of the price or attach to the dollar, which depreciates the use of cryptocurrencies.
The price of bitcoin during the past month has been more stable than the US dollar.  So, I don't agree there is high price volatility.

There was high price volatility between November 2017 and February 2018.  Since early May the price hasn't been that volatile.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 10, 2018, 03:56:52 PM
Crypto needs to be mass adopted before it becomes as a main medium of payment. Remember there are some countries that still do not have credit card payments. There are some places you can pay with crypto, it just needs to get bigger. Once there is more adoption, more companies will invest into crypto payments. Right now it doesn't seem like the best option for the average business to offer that service.
One of the revolutionary aspects of cryptocurrency is it is for everyone, including the over 2 billion people without access to banking services such as bank accounts or credit cards.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 09, 2018, 11:11:28 PM
Governments of different countries will always distrust the decentralized crypto currency. Very few states will maintain the uncontrolled crypto currency for it and give it the status of a means of payment. There will probably be few countries like Japan and Germany. In any case for now. However, depending on how the decentralized crypto currency will behave in the future, the number of such countries will increase or decrease. In any case, the process of legalization of the crypto currency will be long and controversial.
I agree that governments aren't going to support a cryptocurrency for a medium of payment until there is one that is "regulator friendly".  As you highlight, they won't support an "uncontrolled crypto currency" because this lack of control is "hostile" to regulators. 

Instead, there needs to be a cryptocurrency that allows regulators such as tax authorities and customs agencies to apply their regulations.  Better still, a cryptocurrency that actually makes applying regulations more efficient and effective than apply these regulations to traditional mediums of payment such as cash and card should certainly get governments to support such a cryptocurrency.

To my knowledge, no such cryptocurrency exists.

37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 09, 2018, 02:55:33 AM
What are some of the reasons preventing cryptocurrency from being more successful as a medium of payment?
I think the SEC are preventing cryptocurrency from being successful as a medium of payment. Because there are still many project who has successful ICO, waiting for the approval or license from SEC to operate their business. Same situation as salpay project.
I think the SEC is actually trying to help initial coin offerings.  For example, by declaring that neither Bitcoin nor Ethereum are securities that opens ICOs that are cryptocurrencies based on either of these.

Now, there are other regulators such as tax authorities that aren't fond cryptocurrencies.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 08, 2018, 10:57:47 PM
Well the biggest factor is the adoption rate. The crypto market is still at a early stage and as the adoption rate increases we are going to see more payments being made using cryptocurrencies. I'm pretty sure that cryptocurrencies are going to become the number one medium of payment in digital transactions due to the privacy and security it provides.
I agree that like any new innovation it must go through the Technology Adoption Curve.  So, considering cryptocurrency is less than 10 years old, it's not surprising it doesn't have widespread use a medium of payment.

I too have no doubt that at some point it become the most popular medium of payment.  I started this thread to learn the opinions and insights from cryptocurrency enthusiasts as to what they perceive as the obstacles preventing adoption.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 07, 2018, 06:10:44 PM
I think this is due to the fact that many countries still do not want to accept cryptocurrencies as a means of payment. Many governments are against it and therefore some difficulties arise

The government has no measures and detailed plans to manage and create regulations in this area, and of course when they are out of control and people still use crypto as a payment method, many problems will arise, that could be money laundering or not paying taxes or using crypto for gambling, a country that always exists the problem, that country will soon collapse. So the government against and does not allow crypto to be used universally as the only way to avoid chaos, also, I think every user does not like to use crypto as payment method, it is probably very wasteful when the crypto always brings unexpected profits

Yes, this is exactly why there is no government that is enthusiastically supporting a cryptocurrency.  These regulator issues must be addressed before they will do that.  And, to do that, there must be a "regulator friendly" cryptocurrency.
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 06, 2018, 05:13:58 PM
As you can see right now only Bitcoin is famous and known among the big amount of people. People are afraid of chances and on the other hand, they don't understand the benefit of the blockchain and cryptocurrencies, that is the reason why we are not using crypto as dollars for now, but in few years it will become common.
I agree that the lack of awareness and understanding is a significant obstacle preventing widespread use of cryptocurrency as a medium of payment.

I have asked virtually everyone I know whether they have heard of Bitcoin.  So far, 100% answered, "Yes".  So, virtually everyone has heard of Bitcoin.

I then asked each the follow up question, "do you know what cryptocurrency is?"  So, far only 1 person knew, and he is a computer scientist.

There needs to be significant promotion of cryptocurrency as medium of payment so buyers and sellers understand what it is, how it works, why they should trust, and, most importantly, what about it provides advantages compared with traditional payments such as cash or cards.
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