US Companies? How about US citizens?
The world of reasonable people has to put the rabid dogs in their rightful cage. They're still living under the "land of the free, home of the brave" BS that they willingly gulp down in large quantities every day. Their problem, not ours. Watching this play out will be very interesting indeed. We all have front-row seats.
As an ex-US citizen, I kinda resemble this remark. Woof. |
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The problem is doing nothing is unacceptable to any government. Then it seems that governments have a problem. We don't need would-be technocrats cuddling up to them and stuffing solutions down our throats. The recent value increase in bitcoin is largely driven by serious investors in the currency.
May the gods save us from "serious" people. |
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What other measure would you guys suggest to meet existing legal requirements? None. Existing legal requirements, and the power interests they serve, are the problem. Their absence or irrelevance is the goal. Trying to convince lawmakers that bitcoin should be anonymously traded is an absolute non-starter. Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies like it are an existential threat to lawmakers and the power interests they serve. Trying to convince them of anything is futile, and akin to attempting to bargain with the slavemaster while you're under the lash, when what you should be doing is everything in your power to escape the last and the slavemaster. |
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Cryptolocker is not Bitcoin's issue any more than it's Ford's issue if a bank robber drives off in one of models.
If somebody should be thrown under the bus here it should be Microsoft for being unable or unwilling to build secure operating systems.
Anyone who says they are worried about Cryptolocker's effect on Bitcoin adoption is lying. By every objective measure: transaction rate, blockchain.info wallets, frequency of conferences, exchange rate, etc, growth is exponential and shows not the slightest sign of being negatively affected by Cryptolocker.
This idea of a Cryptolocker backlash is a fake problem used to scare the community into accepting a compromise that's against their best interests. These plans have been in the works for years, as evidenced on this very forum, and the proponents have just been waiting for a suitable excuse the put their plans into effect.
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Why do it in secret?
I believe the thread was originally posted in the open on the membership forums. ... which still haven't become at least read-only to people not members of the foundation. Therefore, secret by some definitions. |
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Hey Mike,
Yesterday I was experimenting with thebitcoinlaundry trying to see if it work tumbling directly into a bitpay request, which it doesn't look like it works since they chave a 15 minute window. I sent over 0.105 BTC to 12uAh99PHFitt7psw9RTkVfEvCvmm7SyDA and about twenty minutes later, after reading a thread where it seemed that the laundry was waiting for a tiny bit extra to make up the fee, I sent another 0.0011 BTC to the same address. It looks like these are just floating around the chain somewhere, and I realize this isn't your fault and that it almost certainly has everything to do with Bitpay... but if Bitpay sent those two transactions back to you or if they never made it out of the laundry, I'd love to get it back to the same address I sent it over from. More irritated at myself, and if you tell me that the coins are gone forever I understand and will just consider it a lesson learned.
-Dutch
Dutch, The balance of your scheme after commission was paid out to an address starting with 18Q. Beyond that, unfortunately (and by design!), there's nothing more I can discover. Peace, Mike |
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This isn't about a new wallet app but rather just encouraging people who might have previously been put off by the complexity to think about maybe making a new one.
Ah, I grok. Good stuff. |
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We created Tor.framework for our wallet with the intention of it being usable for the "apps" in Hive, as well as the network itself. Unfortunately at the moment there is no proxy support in bitcoinj, so it is only available to the former. This is something we're not happy about and we hope to see proxy support in bitcoinj soon. If we had the knowledge and resources we would try to add it ourselves, but alas... Eh, no problem. Anyone who is serious about security can do things like: or make that into an init script or whatever the devil works on mack-Os, and just be all torrily. Likewise, one can create an entire VM, rather trivially, that will only communicate with the internet over Tor. There's some local firewall doojaggering to do and some configgiblartybarfasts to set, but it's not a terribly big deal. Per-OS and per-distro install scripts can take care of most of it. Once the core tech is solid, sheeeee-it.... we can frickin' pipe you into crypto-pony utopia  |
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However, I do declare, Mike Hearn and Gavin Andresen, that you seem to be complete assholes.
The insults and anger you aim toward Mike and Gavin seems pretty over the top. I read the G+ link you gave, and while it's true that they are less anti-government than you, it looks like they just have a genuine disagreement with you about priorities and tactics. I'm probably more on your side of the debate about how much priority should be given to making Bitcoin something that can be used to escape government control, but even if Mike and Gavin were the scum that you claim they are, what's the purpose of all the over the top insults? Shocking, isn't it? Welcome to the internet. By responding here, (*edit: it has become) that you don't understand my context is your problem. |
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Hm. I've been using MultiBit for a few months (not always happily: strange GUI wonkiness in xubuntu, sometimes ranging to extreme wonkiness. No sign those are bitcoinj issues, though.)
What's the ++ for this over MultiBit?
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I don't think Amir will actually do that though, because that might suggest that maybe Gavin and Mike aren't idiots who work for the Illuminati.
For the record, I don't think that Mike Hearn and Gavin Andresen are idiots who work for the Illuminati. Clearly, they are both intelligent people. They could not *possibly* have achieved what they have while being idiots. However, I do declare, Mike Hearn and Gavin Andresen, that you seem to be complete assholes. And while I won't point at the Illuminati (I am, after all, a card-carrying member for a quarter of your pathetic human centuries), I will say this: Hearn and Andresen, you behave like dyed-in-the-wool statists who either: a) HATE the idea of taking ANY personal risk to fight the evil fucks who presently own the planet, meaning you're fucking cowards (grow a pair); OR b) are completely UNCONSCIOUS of the fact that evil who fucks presently own the planet, meaning you're INEDUCABLY IGNORANT of matters you've long been exposed to in the Bitcoin milieu (wake up and take a lesson, Stockholm-syndrome-affected dumbasses); OR c) are IN BED with the evil fucks who presently own the planet, in which you are traitors to humanity (die screaming, on fire, alone, each in your own separate hole); OR d) want to BECOME one of the evil fucks who presently own the planet (ditto). I'll leave it to the sycophantic fanentity audience to choose among the three or... wait for it... scream blue murder at me for uttering uncomfortable truths. Now, I don't mean to say that the two of you go around crushing kittens or such, but look: - You two CONSTANTLY harp on Amir's fuckup with Bitcoinica. Amir DID fuck up there, bigtime. You seem incapable of entertaining the notion that he learned anything from that, or that it was an honest mistake rather than willful negligence or malice, and you seem to act, therefore, like anything Amir says or is involved with is a pool of liquid shit with anthrax and ricin sprinkles on top. - Gavin's BOMBASTIC IGNORANT DUMBSHITTERY of historical context in writing (Google+, 20 May 2013): We're never going to agree on tactics. I'm a pragmatist, so if putting star patches on my air guitar gives the people in power warm fuzzies, I'm happy to do it. I'll ask them exactly what type of star they'd like me to use and exactly where they'd like me to apply it, and while they were busy figuring that out I'll be busy working hard to get a few million more air guitar users.
Being a majority protects people from assaults.
(...because that worked so well in Warsaw, Godwinbergheimgrad, etc.) - You tolerate a dangerous, rather-much-extremely-more-extremely-more-mentally-ill-than-Amir-or-me beast like luke-jr - You continuously promote a "profit over people" line of thinking - and on and on. So, get fucked, the both of you. Take Garzik and luke-monster with you. You will be superseded, and your control lost as tears in falling rain. |
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Gotta remember to check that "self-moderated" box in the future to keep jerks off my threads... Here, have an ignore point.
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I think surgery's on cats are stupid. It's just a pet not a human.
Then don't give. But meanwhile, shut the fuck up. |
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Grumble, grumble. And it is on her Facebook. I'm spreading the word!
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My friends Crystal and Rob need to raise about $1900 more for surgery for their cat, Cheeks. They're good folks, and Cheeks is a love monster.  Bitcoin donations: 12DHV9erBHtdWH5svkhnyK3izzVF2Lp9UP (Rob's mining address). From Crystal's gofundme.com page, http://www.gofundme.com/50l274: Created by Crystal Doommonkey Gaz Pistol on October 29, 2013
AUSTIN, TX
Animals & Pets
Cheeks our beloved furiend needs surgery.
The vets found 3 masses in his intestines that are suspicious of lymphoma, a common cancer among cats. Current procedures of cytology have not be definitive in obtaining a ample that could be stated as a positive.
The surgery Cheeks needs will be to remove the 3 masses, as in a full biopsy, and the full tissue samples can be sent to the lab and we can get more answers.
Recently Cheeks was doing well recovery from oral surgery to remove some bad teeth. He seemed to be on the mend and doing well eating his meals and being the usual sweet goofball. Sometime at the start of October his energy and feeding habits started to decline and he was losing weight rather rapidly, so much so that we can feel his spine and hip bones protrude.
Currently he is on a steroid to stimulate his appetite and we have to feed in frequent small meals throughout the day and night. Though, we have to cut his steroid amount in order for the cells to be removed, since steroids have a tendency to shrink growths (good and bad) so the sooner we can get this moving forward the sooner we can have answers.
This has been a difficult time for us since we don't have children our furry children mean the world.
Cheeks came into my life as a wee baby kitten. He was born to a semi-feral cat around my house in California. Starting at about 5 weeks old Cheeks would squeak at me and start following me around in the yard. It was love at first sight, 12 years ago, and we've been together ever since. I think it's pretty obvious how he got his name, but just to give you all a mental picture ... imagine this little orange and white tabby kitten following you around and as kittens tend to have overly exaggerated features (before they grow into them), that was his big white cheeks sticking out from his adorable face. Every step he took he made a cute "brff" sound as we trotted around the yard. As he got older he found that it wasn't enough to just follow me--he needed to ride me, and one day as I stood outside he took that leap and curled his warm soft body around my neck always making sure that his head was on my right side (he's particular like that) and that has been an important bonding act ever since.
Cheeks was just over a year old when we picked up and moved to Austin, Texas and we've been here ever since. He has two other cat companions and his people that adore him.
This surgery has been estimated to cost us around $2000 give or take. Depending on what is found through this surgery will give us a greater idea on what further care he may need, and in the case of a cancer diagnosis being positive it would mean chemo treatments. We are hoping that these growths in his intestines are not cancerous and are just obstructions causing his digestive issues. Either way surgery is the only way to be sure what is causing our beautiful guy so much trouble right now.
Any left over funds will apply to any follow up needs, and in the case Cheeks doesn't need chemo left over funds will be given to no-kill animal shelters or rescues, or a similar campaign to ours.
Our pets we chose as companions, and as such they become more than simply a pet they are part of our lives like family.
Cheeks really is one of the most amazing cats I have ever known. Sweet, friendly, well behaved, funny, loving, and just all around great personality. For many who know Rob and I, understand the significance Cheeks has in our lives and ours in his. He has a knack for wanting us to feel better when we are ill. Every time I had been sick or really upset to tears and bewilderment Cheeks would race up and talk to me and purr. My light on dark days.
He's our love bug and we want to give him a chance at recovery and hopefully many more years because 12 years is simply not enough time for Cheeks in this world, not yet.
***For Bitcoin users please see this site address: 12DHV9erBHtdWH5svkhnyK3izzVF2Lp9UP
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Dear Friends (and with that statement I deliberately exclude the naysayers), I've started a website in support of Ross Ulbricht, the man accused of being one of the Dread Pirates Roberts. There have been at least three by my count and at least four by the count of Eileen at allthingsvice.com. From what little is known of Ross's writings online, I don't credit the idea that he was being any murders-for-hire. I'm in daily contact with Ross's parents and assisting them from various angles. https://www.rossulbricht.org/ |
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My short definition of murder: an unjustified killing.
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Amir,
Is this a full client node?
Are regular (non-"deterministic") wallets supported?
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There is a huge difference between "educating legislators" and paying kilobuck-an-hour white-shoe lawyers from top-rung lobbying firms to engage with the influence peddlers of Mordor on the Potomac. For example, the foundation could fund development and maintenance of a grassroots, participatory network based on tech like CivicRM ( http://civicrm.org/). This in turn can be used GLOBALLY to enable individuals and businesses to educate legislators, the bureaucracy, and other businesses, on every level from hyper-local to international. CivicRM can also be used for fundraising and volunteer recruitment efforts in a host of areas. |
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In my opinion: The PKI issue under discussion here is absolutely critical. I understand that the effort aims to provide X.509/CA certificates as one option for securing the messages under discussion as a modular plugin to an API which would, at the outset, also support "unsigned plain" types. The work embodied in Gavin's "pseudo-spec" looks to me like a big chunk of solid research that will contribute to Bitcoin's flourishing. But the thinking that leads to comments like this one from Mike worries me deeply: X.509 cert chains are flawed in many ways. They're being used in this spec for one reason and one reason only - lots and lots and lots of people already have them, they're easy to get, and they assert to an identity (normally a domain name). Also, the code to do the signing and verification is simple (I sent Gavin an example) and can be implemented with OpenSSL in about a page of code.
The facts regarding the existing CA infrastructure, as pointed out by justusranvier above, are irrefutable, and his comment regarding fire extinguishers needs to be taken very seriously by anyone implementing crypto-centric software in the year 2013 and beyond. The CAs are broken beyond repair (if not by design, /tinfoil) and they are not going to be fixed. Implementing new "secured" payments messaging on top of a foundation that includes the public CAs is like building a castle out of counterfeit bricks: no matter the skill of the masons, the castle will fall. At the moment, the core dev team, in considering this proposal, are acting as architects, engineers and masons. That's great: the puissance they've shown to date makes them masters of all three crafts. But to do the job to the fullest, the castle must protect the people who dwell inside it. And no matter the vision of the architect, the precision of the engineer or the skill of the mason, their work means worse than nothing if they elect to build the castle out of the same faulty bricks being used in That Other Kingdom of which We are All Well Aware. If the barbarian horde which breaches the ramparts does not slay them, surely the survivors of the short-lived siege will, in retribution for their criminal negligence. Lots of people have and use shitty bricks. Building out of shitty bricks is easy. The road to perdition is easy, too. |
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