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nothing to do with me.. maybe someone else you have negged just to try and make yourself look better? looking through the untrusted feedback you seem to have a bad habit of neg repping newbies. also why do you lick your own boob? its way more fun licking womens boobs, you should try it sometime ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) @ bawsyboss, yea go ahead.. i think that will actually be the new game plan. forget positives, ill start paying for negatives. the principle of calling someone a scammer when they are not annoys me but as for the actual negative feedback i could care less as any transactions i do on here will be through a safe medium so it wont matter anyway. oh and FYI check my untrusted feedback, note the 2 users that positive repped me as i requested. now why dont you go and ask them if i paid them after they repped me? i think you may find i paid as promised, definately traits of a true scammer there lol
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but if your simply sitting on a bitcoin or any amount of bitcoins then they are not earning you anything.
you can turn profits on cex.io also.. honestly i couldnt say for longer term because im constantly buying and selling but when i leave cex for the night and following working day by the time im back on the following day/evening there is more BTC in my account than there was when i left it (assuming i "park" my BTC in the form of GHS until the next day). its only a minimal gain though but from what i have seen doing this with anything from 0.25GHS up to 8.4GHS the more GHS you have the more you will make from the short term overnight mining as i like to think of it. couple that with being smart and not panic buying/selling and you can gain BTC via overnight mining and buying/selling BTC/GHS though you need to be trading as frequently as humanly possible.
its by no means lucrative but its still a gain if you play your cards right and if the market takes a nose dive you can always pull out. at the minute GHS prices are nice and low after the new TOS though they are slowly rising. lowest i saw was about 0.025 not too long after the site was down and the new TOS were in effect. at present GHS is up to 0.0276 which is still low considering when i first started roughly 1 week ago prices were at 0.044 and then slowly declined nearer the new TOS date. the last price range that held for a few days before the crash was around 0.33-0.34 and it seems to be heading back up that way since the crash so i reckon now is a good time to buy as much GHS as you can and sit on it for up to a week then sell it all when its back into the 0.03's.
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i would seriously consider ditching paypal myself but for ebay.. paypal is the single largest payment method on ebay which is the main reason i still use it.
also i take paypal payments for performance chips i sell for select older car ECU's and its kind of handy for that as you dont need facilities to process credit cards and all that which would eat into any profits you make. saying that though i have added a bitcoin accepted here image and QR code on the website, however, im weary of adding them to my ebay listings.
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yea i think there will definately be more to come from other payment provider type juggernauts. when the GHS on ebay thing dies out ill be keeping BTC and fiat currencies away from each other unless when trading using a safe medium or buying BTC via my bank account.
i wonder if/when we will see banks starting to behave like paypal is behaving at the moment?
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has anyone selling GHS redeem codes for cex.io had any problem with paypal yet? still appears to be just as many GHS listings as there was over a week ago.. including mine ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) though i am starting to get weary of continuing to sell GHS using my long standing ebay/paypal accounts so i may just start another ebay and paypal account so that in a worst case scenario its only whatever money is in the new paypal account and a new ebay account that gets shot down rather than my original account with 100% over 12 months and 857 feedback. that said, im sure my 100% and 857 feedback helps people in their decision to purchase from me.. i could potentially lose sales with a new account so its a gamble either way.
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yes, i plan to purchase feedback for fun and to make fun of people like you and Vod who have nothing better to do than to harass new members because you think every newbie is a scammer. also to get the point across to people that the feedback system here is completely fucked and not worth a damn.
also notice how i said all feedback i would buy will have NLA references so obviously it will be easy for even the most inbred dumbfuck to see that they are not genuine positives from transactions. the point of this is to counteract Vod (and now your) negative ratings seeing as i have done nothing wrong and have not scammed a single person yet you and Vod feel it appropriate to label me a scammer for things i have not even done? conspiracy theory much? fucking hell you people need to get out more.. not every person on the planet besides you and people you know are scammers/fraudsters/theives/murderers/etc, people need to give other people the benefit of the doubt and when it comes to doing transactions keep your ass covered regardless of if someone appears genuine or not. the only time i would do a transaction on trust alone is if i knew the person very well or had previous dealings with them and that is how everyone else should operate here. its not my fault people come on here and are stupid enough to let themselves be scammed and as a result of that mass paranoia is created that every newbie is a scammer.. well im a newbie and i havent scammd anyone.. i also havent been scammed by anyonee either simply because i dont blindly trust people, however, there is a HUGE difference between not blindly trusting people and being paranoid to the point you think everyone is a scammer like so many here seem to think. i couldnt care if i deal with a legit member or someone who may be a scammer because any dealings i do will be via a safe medium that im happy with, if im not happy with how the deal goes down i dont deal, end of.. if everyone used a bit of common sense all this mass scammer paranoia would be a non issue as people simply wouldnt allow themselves to be had by scammers..
honestly, i dont really care who trusts me and who does not, if i remain here long enough people will begin to trust me though i doubt i would trust anyone here myself bar a select few with traceable historic honest transactions and even then id be looking for a safe method of doing the transaction such as john's escrow. im actually trawling google at the mmoment looking for reputable escrow services that will handle small and medium sized transactions though im looking at that as im thinking of adding escrow as a payment method on my ebay listings since paypal seem to have a boner for fucking people over who buy/sell anything related to bitcoins so im thinking anything coin related i can list with escrow payment method and remove the paypal option so my long standing paypal account is not at risk of being frozen or deleted/banned due to my newfound interest in bitcoins.
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wow you figured out how to use the quote feature..
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where did i mention paypal in that post? hmm? if you bothered to read my posts fully you would have noticed that i was looking for paypal to get me out of a bind until my virwox account limits are raised (at about 10pm this evening) which then covers me until i have my bank account set up soo can buy BTC from somewhere like bittylicious. fag boy.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guidofistpump.com%2Fguido%2520pix%2Fguido04.jpg&t=665&c=boDqiANVVj6OGA) and last but not least.. you didnt even spell guido right.. hahahaha
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seriously? escrow for peanuts? i dont think so.. besides its not like if i were to scam people they would be losing anything apart from sig space for a week/month or whatever, plus if they run the sig line for whatever the duration and i pay them then i may get genuine good feedback as well. i dont want to simply buy good feedback to appear trustworthy, i want to prove i am trustworthy. this is why any positive feedbacks i pay for will have something relating to the Noob Liberation Army so that people can clearly see when they look at my trust feedback that those bought positives are just for fun/not relating to transactions. sure i could ask people to leave me good feedback about imaginary transactions and pay them for that but thats not how i roll.. i am legit and i want to earn my feedback the same way.
my reasoning for buying feedback with NLA comments, besides what i mentioned already, is also to knock out Vods stupid negative. or i could offer to pay people to give him negative rep? that could be interesting..
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lmao the Noob Liberation Army is officially in action.. watch out evil Infamous Trust Nazi's, were coming for you! just need to work out how much BTC i can afford to pay people for sig space/feedback and comments and were rockin, sometimes i amaze even myself ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) just missing the ability to have an avatar on my account or id have one made up by now lol
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yea i just thought of of something along those lines (i have edited it in but not set a price yet). i may as well pay for feedback and have as much fun with this whole thing as i can. this should also make me better known on the forums and potentially get more people to get to know me and perhaps further down the line begin to trust me.. though i cant see me partaking in any trades where it would boil down to trust alone, id probably use an escrow service or something else that is safe. keep getting a 502 bad gateway at the minute so its taking aaages to get anything done ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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ah but i will pay them.. why? because im honest and not a scammer. the price is left blank at present as like i said i accidentally posted it before i meant to and i havent worked out what price i can afford to pay and how many people i can pay it to, etc.
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honestly.. i dont give a flying fuck anymore tbh. plus any trades i do on here will be in such a way that both parties are safe, maybe something like john k's escrow or something so it wont matter if i have a million negative rep.. plus if i get a rediculous amount of bad rep it will get to the stage where its blatantly obvious the rep is because of something else, hell i may even start asking everyone to negative rep me. im going to take this and run with it and have a little fun at his (and other members who behave similarly) expense. i accidentally started the sig space thread already.. i meant to click preview and clicked post instead and cannot delete it so i had to quickly throw something up with a note saying its not done yet.. i think it could catch on because it pokes fun at these saddo's. check it out, i might make the N.L.A. title out of different shades of green like its camo lol maybe with a bit of luck the name i came up for him and the others that behave like him will stick and become the new term for members like him. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450559.0
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The Noob Liberation Army wants YOU!!![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg691%2F7971%2Flr8h.jpg&t=665&c=xzPTD943QaYuYg) (Rare photo of Vod when he was a newbie 3000 years ago before defecting to the dark side) Tired of being ridiculed just for being a newbie? Has a member or members of the forums Infamous Trust Nazi's (I.T.N.) attacked your beloved trust feedback? Then we want YOU to join the cause of the Noob Liberation Army (N.L.A.)!!After being captured by the I.T.N.'s evil boob licking General Vod our fearless leader dmcl mandella has been locked up in negative trust jail. We need to free him, and all others wrongly jailed by the I.T.N.'s evil trust regime! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg838%2F7867%2F2toa.jpg&t=665&c=3o2i-3bPP0hVdQ) ______________________________________________________________________ Newbie Volunteers Wanted Have you been ridiculed and abused by the I.T.N. for being a newbie? Volunteer and join the revolution! Simply copy and paste the signature text below and insert the offending user/users names and fight back with the Noob Liberation Army!! Code: [b]Free (your name here)!! Death to the Infamous Trust Nazi's and Evil General (their name here) - [i]Represent & Fight the Power! Brought to you by the [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450559.0][color=green]N[/color][color=darkgreen]o[/color][color=green]o[/color][color=darkgreen]b[/color] [color=green]L[/color][color=darkgreen]i[/color][color=green]b[/color][color=darkgreen]e[/color][color=green]r[/color][color=darkgreen]a[/color][color=green]t[/color][color=darkgreen]i[/color][color=green]o[/color][color=darkgreen]n[/color] [color=green]A[/color][color=darkgreen]r[/color][color=green]m[/color][color=darkgreen]y[/color][/url][/i][/b] Will Show: " Free (your name here)!! Death to the Infamous Trust Nazi's and Evil General (their name here) - Represent & Fight the Power! Brought to you by the Noob Liberation Army" All New N.L.A. recruits will be issues with 1x can of troll spray for those times when your ambushed out of nowhere in the middle of a thread. It should hold them back long enough for reinforcements to be deployed. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg829%2F2968%2Flhd8.jpg&t=665&c=UvgNKTMi0s10lA) ______________________________________________________________________ Paid Signature SpaceI will pay YOU in BTC to support the N.L.A. and help to free their oppressed and ridiculed leader dmcl mandella!! Free dmcl mandella!!! I will pay YOU 0.0__ BTC per _____ to support the cause with the message: Code: [b]Free dmcl mandella!! Death to the Infamous Trust Nazi's and Evil [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747]General Vod[/url] - [i]Represent & Fight the Power! Brought to you by the [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450559.0][color=green]N[/color][color=darkgreen]o[/color][color=green]o[/color][color=darkgreen]b[/color] [color=green]L[/color][color=darkgreen]i[/color][color=green]b[/color][color=darkgreen]e[/color][color=green]r[/color][color=darkgreen]a[/color][color=green]t[/color][color=darkgreen]i[/color][color=green]o[/color][color=darkgreen]n[/color] [color=green]A[/color][color=darkgreen]r[/color][color=green]m[/color][color=darkgreen]y[/color][/url][/i][/b] Will Show: " Free dmcl mandella!! Death to the Infamous Trust Nazi's and Evil General Vod - Represent & Fight the Power! Brought to you by the Noob Liberation Army" ______________________________________________________________________ I will pay YOU a minimum of 0.002 BTC to give me either negative or positive trust ratings with the statement:"Free dmcl mandella!! Death to the Infamous Trust Nazi's and Evil General Vod - Represent & Fight the Power! I support the Noob Liberation Army" Also dont forget to put the link to this thread in the reference box when leaving trust feedback! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450559.0NOTE: If you are in a sufficient trust group so that your feedback will go into the trusted feedback part of my trust profile I will pay you more than the price listed above. PM me to negotiate a price (assuming I can afford it at that moment in time). also I am willing to pay you twice if you leave a negative and a positive, so that would be 0.004 BTC (or more if your in a sufficient trust group). Basically the aim of the game here is to load up all areas of my feedback profile to highlight just how flawed the trust rating system is and that it can be used for personal vendetta's, that it can be bought and that it should hold no weight for transactions with, or opinions of, users of either positive or negative feedback because ALL users new and old should exercise caution and be safe when dealing/trading here as scammers come in all forms, shapes, sizes, post counts and feedback ratings. This has been a public service announcement by the Noob Liberation Army.
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but this is the username i use on many forums, plus creating another username would look more suspicious. also whats to say he wont do the same thing to that account as well?
rather than blow more money on legal stuff i think i have come up with a better and even more annoying way to wear him down.. ill do what the casino/signature buyer dudes do and pay for people to give me their signature space. i will stop doing it when he either removes his bad rep or i feel it has gone on long enough to sufficiently damage his reputation as he has done to mine. working on the thread right now in another tab..
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so basically im stuck with it purely because this guys a douchebag and loves to rip on newbies unless i decide to try my luck the legal route and potentially waste money and get nowhere?
one thing that is in my favour is he mentions paypal and i do not intend on using paypal (not that anyone would accept it anyway).
maybe instead of chasing it up legally and potentially hitting a wall i would probably be better to simply pay people a small amount of BTC to put a nice message pertaining to him and his attitude towards all new members in their signatures and just keep doing things like that until i wear him down and he removes it.
honestly, i will not stop until he removes it. if i were going to give up on it id have done so by now..
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how small of a value can you escrow? also what forms of payment can you accept? im new in the game and havent even got my bank setup for bank transfers for buying BTC yet but from what i see on the forums escrow is a good way to stay safe and your the most highly recommended in the escrow list.. also fees are tiny compared to escrow.com lol
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but how do you know the voucher is genuine? it could be some old voucher thats already been used or it could be a voucher for 0.0000001GHS.
im not saying you intend to do anything like that im just pointing out the flaws.
at present i have next to no GHS (0.65 as i offloaded the rest) but even if i had enough to lend someone 100GHS id need a bit more than that tbh, id be needing some form of collateral, etc.
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Defamation and the internet
Given its background as a forum for free speech and the dissemination of ideas it is not surprising that, now e-mail is in the commercial mainstream, its transfer to that forum has produced certain problems. The problem centres on the fact that when sending Emails, many users feel free to express opinions they would not commit to paper when writing a business letter or talking to a group of colleagues. As a result of this, users often make imprudent statements. The problem with the net is that once the button is pressed to send a message, or the information or view in question is uploaded onto a website, it is “published.” In defamation it is at this stage that an offence occurs.
The accepted legal definition of defamation is “the publication of a statement which tends to lower a person in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally.” The “statement” can be words, visual images or some other method of signifying meaning. Defamation takes two forms, libel and slander. Libel involves (amongst other things) writing or printing a defamatory statement. Slander is speech or gestures of a defamatory nature.
A person who is defamed may feel understandably aggrieved and may decide to take action to prevent circulation of the statement. Normally, the person would approach the publisher or the author. The problem with the WWW is that the identity of this entity is often far from obvious. So who does the aggrieved person approach, and ultimately sue particularly if the person who made the statement is untraceable or financially, not worth suing? In a number of notable recent cases, ISP’s have been sued for defamatory content on the basis that they as hosts of, or are the “publishers” of the defamation.
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but banning the victim is not right.. does no one have a conscience anymore or what?
defamation can be a grey area, however, libel is another matter and covers written statements which can be viewed by 3rd parties that affect you.
why have a trust system if the whole system is completely fucked?
@hilariousandco, that is what im getting at, i run a small business and my username is known elsewhere. this accusation can be potentially damaging to me outside of these forums. this is why i am considering legal action.
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