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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 03, 2014, 06:03:54 PM
Well, I am not under the impression you guys are pointing fingers and calling many fraudsters.  I'm saying that I know 2 people and they were both on that list.  You should name it "people needing to prove ownership so they won't lose their stake".  Then you need to come up with a process.  5-6 fraudsters may not be many but unless you can identify the 100+ shares they tried to steal that is going to be hours of work for you guys.  So I am suggesting you make a 2nd account to receive verification pms to help keep it more manageable.  That way people can't modify things either and further add to confusion.

edit - The above is assuming new accounts on here can receive PMs.  Regardless, I'm just asking that you make process of how you want proof handled so people can start making corrective steps and feel better about their investments.

People complain about people having duplicate stakes.  This is actually a fairly worse problem, but we can 100% fix it.

Thank you for your hard work guys.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 03, 2014, 05:40:07 PM
Line 56?  I shouldn't be in there, so thats the problem ?  I'm not getting all defensive because I think #1 you guys are well intentioned #2 we have time to fix this.

What I am upset is that the list is likely 100% wrong.  If you take the 2nd person in the threads then you will always have the "good" person.  This is probably not a bad idea because they are the ones that will have to take corrective action.

My suggestion would be to come up with a process beforehand.  I would suggest PMs since the fraudster can be a pain in the butt if the "proofs" are publically made.  I'd go a bit further and make a 2nd account just for receiving proof pms.  Maybe create 3 nxt accounts, then have person send you 1 NXT in one of three accounts and tell you which on.  You can either vary # of receiving accounts or # of NXT, but if you make it more than 1 nxt then you have to bother returning it perhaps.

Edit - and what does making comment on list do ?  I guess scammer can't comment on the list since they are not on it ?  So by default the fraudalent people can prove they're legitimate?  Just remember with blockchain scammer can see deposit from your account then claim it is his.  You need to come up with a systematic process to prove ownership, or you're going to add to your workload when 100s of people are doing it in varying ways.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 03, 2014, 05:27:19 PM
This fraudster list is 100% wrong from my observation.  Both my account and grimli333 are not fraudalent.  Grimli333 is someone I got to sign up who is very much into cryptocoins and works on projects etc.

Your list of scammers should list the other scammer pairings.

What you're going to have is a bunch of scammers win by default and then the people who were interested miss out on the fact their money has already been stolen.

It is hard work guys, but just realize that your list is probably way wrong so you're going to have a lot of work to do to get it straightened out.  THanks.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 03, 2014, 09:16:23 AM
Can the 'no envy movement' part get dropped? too hippyish, imo



I agree.  New Economy Movement is a huge improvement.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 03, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
So NEM wants to see itself as a mere coin Roll Eyes Well fine with me, it's no envy movement after all Wink

But I would rather see the image of NEM something else than a coin. Coin is Bitcoin, Coin is early 2010's. The image of a coin may right now appeal for the few adventurous tech-minded people who read bitcoinforums and have that "coin" set of mind. But for the masses, average facebookers and instagrammers we need something fun and cool to relate to. NEM is movement. NEM should have an easily recognisable logo/symbol that stands out from the jungle of all the alt coins. NEM is a brand we have to sell for the masses and it has to stand out with a fresh look. Just my 0.02 NEM Smiley

This guy makes sense.  We really don't need a "coin".  There is no word "coin" in any of the proposed names I see.  So why take on that baggage?  After you have named it movement, it is no longer a coin by name.  It is a movement.
26  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: How many bitcoiners are from Texas? on: February 03, 2014, 06:52:26 AM
There are numerous bitcoiners from Texas.  Austin has a sizeable meetup group.  Not sure about other metro areas, but there are plenty.  If you don't have a meetup in your town then you should form one.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 03, 2014, 04:02:14 AM
I suspect a common reaction amongst the dogecoin crowd will be to shout about premine and scam etc...  There is that pervasive attitude, that anything that doesn't justifiy having a GPU rig to mine coin is a scam.

What are some good constructive ways to communicate that NEM is not a scam, and is meant to fulfill the promise of a fairly distributed currency?

Explain how it works.  It is no more unfair than dogecoin which requires an investment in hashpower hardware.  In this case you invest in the coin directly, and some were given the coin for free.  The devs and genesis block did everything they could to give a chance.

In the end, I would also point out how NXT/NEM are superior and that it is basically inevitable that blockchain based coins will hate.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM -4 billion coins- Equal Shares for ALL - Registration thread (part 2) on: February 02, 2014, 08:36:25 AM
Sending some nxt.  Goodluck all!

400 NXT transaction code 2675686019786509196
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cents - seem to have no rules set in stone?? on: February 02, 2014, 08:07:47 AM
I have no clue myself.  Such a fun coin but a bit questionable.
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