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21  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Reach 100k USD in 2025? on: May 24, 2024, 10:49:23 AM
If Bitcoin followed the past post-halving market trends, the price could go over $200k in the bull run. At this point, the majority of investors are holding it for the long term so it does not matter when the price will touch new ATH, but expect a significant price rally (ATH) in the first or second quarter of 2025.
that seems to be the right time for the bullrun, somehow i also got the feeling that this year probably we're not gonna see the significant rally, the market has recovered recently but doesn't mean its gonna go full blown rally within few months it can be just a sign that bitcoin is just starting out and its needed sometime for the accumulation before the bullrun comes.
but its already good thing that we finally see price recovered.
but yeah I guess the even better thing gonna be happening in 2025 first quarter or if things went way better than many predicted its probably around the end of this year.
hopefully that to be the case, can't wait to see how much all time high bitcoin gonna score.
22  Economy / Economics / Re: This Will make you rich on: May 23, 2024, 11:54:23 AM
This is not financial advice but I think it works - follow what rich people are doing if we want to be like them.
Rich people do not just have a single source of income but many. Rich people are not lazy, they work hard in order to get who they are today. They are also risk-takers, willing to spend money for their future. I believe we can do it if we really want it but unfortunately, most of us don't have such kind of mindset and plan. That is why not all become rich but that is life, we make our destiny and all the things we have depend on our personality and mindset.
following rich people is hard.
they have the capital to make as many mistake as they can which eventually one of them gonna be working out and then helps these rich people to regain what they lost again.
most of average people can't afford that, risk taking is reasonable if we have another chance since we are accumulating experience if we have just one shot and we fail most likely we become broke, full of debt and broke.
which isn't the way to go for average people.
we can't just mindlessly using capital for the sake of risk taking.
the average people in general should be a lot more strategic in managing their money, taking risk without proper reasoning is simply putting your own at difficult time.
better if we can find our own way.
23  Economy / Economics / Re: Buying Vs Renting a Home- Which is the right move? on: May 23, 2024, 11:08:28 AM
What? I am confused.

You’d rather live in your van than have your own house? That’s quite concerning mate. Have you ever lived in your car? It would be extremely uncomfortable, inconvenient and not to mention quite dangerous. You won’t be really saving any money that way.
well camping van is comfortable to some extent but yeah not really a good thing to do for long term, its just unsanitary as the time goes. also your statement is right, the money saved not even worth the convenience, also sometime living in van can be more expensive by some reasons.
landlords are indeed annoying, but in the other hand if they up the rent prices we can just look else where, if some people are so afraid of an asshole landlord then we need to accept the burden of high housing prices.
there's no work around to this, either rent or buy a house, thats why investing and upping our income is the key, couldn't go wrong with these two.
even at the difficult economy, we still gonna be avoided of many trouble that about to come if we have saving and high income.
24  Economy / Economics / Re: Starting a business without capital. on: May 23, 2024, 10:54:09 AM
I disagree with that we don't need money totally to Start up a business. I want to tell you that there is no business without money and time invested on it, for example before you start affiliate market, you need the  internet skill and will pay to learn properly. after which you'll buy a new device either laptop or mobile phone including the data you spent online each day to work. So you can see that there is no business you will not at least spend a thangible amount of money. I think the title of this your thread should be "starting up a business with the least capital" I
honestly agree with this take,
starting out business without capital is just unrealistic, even starting out affiliate marketing we required to pay electricity and the tools that support the entire work flow.
there's just no free lunch these days, if the term least capital is used it does make a lot more sense as you said earlier.
everything requires money to start up, even how small it is, a starting capital will always be considered to start up a business.
maybe the only thing that won't take capital to start is offering service such as being plumber and so on, you can learn it by self taught.
then you can offer the hard work of yours and the time spent in exchange of money such as plumbing, but even this job needs the right tool to start.
25  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 22, 2024, 11:29:35 PM
To me he is just abusing that position of having a final say in the club that's something Roman Ibramovich didn't take pleasure doing, but Todd is just some inpatient owner that doesn't know what he really wants. And it's until he get to realize that these actions is making the club to go 1 step forward 3 steps backwards.

Rumour has it that Pochettino wanted some of the players to leave the club in the coming season which is contrary to Todd's desire for those said players, instead he had to cut ties with Pochettino to bring in a coach that will do his bidding as owner. It is most definitely that any new coach coming for next season is going to start afresh with the team and it's very rare to see a new coach coming into a team having them start off immediately on a good performance... Is this what Chelsea will keep doing on every start of the season? As I wonder when this sack series is going to end.

Hopefully Todd Boehly will not regret his decision to stop Mauricio Pochettino as one of Chelsea's best coaches. I don't know for sure how Chelsea will be next season. Does Chelsea have a new coach who can improve Chelsea's performance and provide victory next season? If Chelsea always does this then the possibility of Chelsea winning will be very difficult to obtain.


I hope so but many fans will boo him if chelsea will be back again to the below 10th positions under a new coach. It's not yet clear which coach that is gonna be chosen by the club. It's kinda stupid if chelsea will pick ipswitch coach. I can't even imagine how garbage chelsea is next season if todd boehly will recruit a garbage coach to handle the club.

Look at the potential names listed by sky news above. Mostly of them are coming from the garbage club. I don't know what's gonna happening with chelsea if club is trying to recruit one of them as a successor for pochettino.

We will be back again to the potter ball's era. This is so fuckin dumb.
26  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 22, 2024, 11:10:38 PM


LMAO, The invincible club must suffer its first defeat against the parking bus strategy thanks for gasperini being not stubborna and think about how to win the game. Thank you to Gasperini for using his sense to use the parking strategy in this game and you deserved to win europa league this season. Other clubs are so dumb because they can't believe how effective a parking bus strategy was against a club with dominant ball possessions like Leverkusen. It makes leverkusen becomes so clueless.

Atalanta deserved it. Leverkusen deserved this to lose with good scores against atalanta. They pretend that they can break the parking bus, but they can't since atalanta's defensive line is too strong and very consistent. Atalanta was only relying on the counterattack, and it is working. I'm not sure why people regard the parking bus strategy as a bad one to use, but it's extremely useful for open-minded coaches like Gasperini.

Leverkusen gets karma for being overconfident. Congratulations on destroying Leverkusen with only a counterattack. Look at that man Lookman. his price has skyrocketed following this match.
27  Economy / Economics / Re: Also consider your mental State of health while investing for wealths. on: May 22, 2024, 02:53:38 AM
I meet politicians more often who are mentally disabled because their goals are not achieved. they had spent a lot of money and done a lot, and when the voting was held many unexpected things happened. After this happens they feel stressed and their psychology is disturbed, they also have to get treatment from a specialist doctor. I agree with you, if we do something beyond our abilities and the final result is not according to our wishes, it can result in mental disability.
thats probably because their expectation were too high and when reality hits they just can't accept it and then it disturbed their psychology in the way that they already bet on something so much if things go wrong they go bankrupt, this behaviour is unhealthy wherever it is, never have too much of an expectation and only bet with something that you can afford to lose so if things goes wrong you won't regret it so much and can move on easily.
the nature of always going all in just in one go is very detrimental anyway, always have some strategy and second plan, remember things that can go wrong will go wrong especially about money its always so complicated things.
even though undeniably some people can't get the grasp of taking care their own money and just try to spend it whenever they sees fit.
28  Economy / Economics / Re: Luxury items stock will be good way to go on: May 22, 2024, 02:42:46 AM
your strategy pretty spot on the rich always sought whatever increase their prestige, including luxurious things, sports car, and so on as you mentioned.
I'm sure the stock price not gonna tank even at the most difficult time unless the whole economic is turning upside down only then these luxurious things lost value.
even like that after economic condition has gotten better these company will more likely to make a comeback, these stuffs are timeless so i don't expect these company to really went bankrupt at the time of economic crisis.
so your strategy is pretty spot on unless you forgot 1 thing that things change, these luxurious companies usually start off from being an underdog then climbs up to become luxuries company.
by the time you found one in the stock market you can almost be sure that its already too late since stock price already increased so high the only way to go is to go down.
29  Economy / Economics / Re: This Will make you rich on: May 22, 2024, 02:28:10 AM
im good enough settling around 20% top of riches honestly the 1% require too much of an effort and coincidence for the average guy to be able to make it.
we are talking about 1% rich these are the people that are like elon musk and so on having big company, the company so big it make billions of dollars a year and how to do that, by starting up a company but there's so many scenario where things might go wrong and you become broke instead.
remember that people becoming ultra rich because they have company that sole purpose is to make them money.
average people couldn't do that not even have the chance to start due to various circumstance such as lacking capital.
even being above average in term of finance is already good enough and it already gives you tranquility.
if we don't have the capital and required revolutionizing idea that could give you profit, i think its sometime better to be realistic.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the largest meme coin ever? on: May 21, 2024, 10:15:01 PM
Which is the biggest meme coin yet? You can visit the cmc list if you want, and don't forget to name your profitable meme coin.
I can share some name of top meme coin.
Shiba
Dogecoin
Floki
Babydogecoin
Pepe
Mona

I'm monitoring NOT coin and they will be listed on a major exchange again this afternoon around sunset in my country and now the price is starting to increase little by little before listing on the new exchange.

For the others, I see that Doge is still at the top of the other five. Elon is great, he can always make doge keep going up.
Not coin? What is so special about it? Let me advise you that you should not be in a rush with new listings by exchanges, it could be disastrous at times. Binance just launched it yesterday but Bybit launched it last week and it fell so much afterwards, you can check it. Peradventure, this recent bullish rekindled power may help it to rise, but the risk with these new listings is increasingly getting higher if I must tell you.

Wait a minute, this is not a meme coin, if you must know, it is a gaming token, and as all know gaming tokens, they often have their own issues, so be careful.

As for Dogecoin, well, I think it will maintain that front position for so long and if I may ask, which meme coin can displace it yet? I do not see such for now and in the next decade, at least. Although I can't trust those of the Solana system over time, but this will still take a whole lot of time before they can meet and displace it by market capitalization.

not coin is overrated as a coin and its not even a meme coin thats right.
the coin is different its not even a contender toward doge coin, what we must be concerned though pepe coin, always having good increase overtime, probably gonna be on the same level as doge and shib its just matter of time until the price explodes and the market cap increase.
but right now by the market cap its still doge coin that has the throne, but i'm sure that doge coin will still number 1 like your statement because its just having already too big market cap too hard to overtake even by newer meme coins.
when people think about meme coin its always doge coin that is in their mind no other meme coin probably shib but even this coin is not as popular as doge coin as of now.
but meme coin market is dynamic, its always changing, right now its doge, probably next year that position will be taken by other meme coin.
considering every month there is always new meme coin reaching big market capitalization.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PEPE on the way of taking Memecoin crown on: May 21, 2024, 10:05:38 PM
yeah pepe is currently the hottest meme coin i don't know why but despite big market cap that doge and shib having its rather having low shill right now and many people shifted their attention to pepe.
with meme coin, the trend always changing, pepe coin become popular probably because people are bored with doge and shib.
since entire meme coin hype centered around which meme coin is currently trending it will make a lot of sense that people eventually get bored.
though the trading volume of shib and doge is still rather high. but pepe has been having steady increases.
i don't know whether it gonna take the crown though with pepe, the gap between market cap still high, it may takes some time before that actually happened.
32  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to become a successful trader on: May 21, 2024, 03:14:52 PM
Successful traders require a blend of education, discipline, and strategy. Start by thoroughly understanding the markets and developing a solid trading plan. Practice risk management to protect your capital and continuously analyze and adapt your strategy based on performance. Patience and consistency are key to long-term success.
those are good to have background for trader.
usually it just requires knowledge and capital to succeed, what make trading difficult is probably the capital that it requires many people afraid of losing the capital so they make worst decision.
education in this case is not really needed but its always good to have you know having education and all.
moreover, what is the definition of successful trader here means anyway.
it could be some people with good career doing trading as their side job and they could easily be included in the category of successful trader since they are well off and still trading anyway.
33  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 20, 2024, 10:58:59 AM
I perfectly understand that Real Madrid is the most successful club in Europe and as the most successful European club, they have that winning mentality which I think is necessary of their biggest weapons as a club but after the result of their game today against Villarreal and how Villarreal were able to come from three goals down draw the game, I became worried of what Real Madrid in the final against a Borussia Dortmund team that's more formidable than Villarreal.
Borussia Dortmund did not win any other trophy and the only way they can finish the season a trophy is by winning the UEFA Champions League final against Real Madrid so I expect them to be at their best when facing Madrid. Real Madrid despite their result today against Villarreal is stilly favorite team to win that final but they must definitely be at their best to achieve that against Borussia Dortmund

Just because Dortmund haven't won a single trophy doesn't mean they have a better chance win it in the Champions League final than Real Madrid. Moreover, Real Madrid have so much more experience in this tournament that they can play more confidently, although these are just my assumptions. There is no need now to evaluate Real's defense based on the match with Villarreal, because there you need to evaluate the match comprehensively, starting with their squard and ending with motivation. In the final everything will be different, and most likely it will be Dortmund who will play most of the match in defense, unless they concede an early goal and have to win back.

Realistically, the essence is about how many times real madrid was winning the trophy. It's 14 times. How can we compare madrid to the dortmund?

What things we shall compare then?

Quality?
Consistentcy?
Strategy?

or

History?

It will be so dumb if dortmund goes fully offensive against real madrid, which have best attackers in the world. Real madrid is very consistent in UCL. This is my reason why madrid will destroy dortmund in the final.


34  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 20, 2024, 10:24:05 AM
The decision to scouting the new players will be on the next head coach. klopp has also ordered liverpool fans to chants arne slot during his farewell speech. I can't fully trust arne slot because he is not having a good history in the managing the club.
Liverpool is probably gambling by signing arne slot from feyenoord. Im doubting liverpool's capability to compete in the upcoming season. I totally aware about who arne slot is.

Never put a big hope to him. You will be disappointed then.
TBH, actually I also don't agree if Liverpool brought in Arne Slot as the new coach to replace Klopp and according to the history of Arne Slot journey, he has not been able to give confidence to Liverpool fans who already know that Arne Slot experience is not enough to be able to help Liverpool to reach their level again. higher in the following season.
however, we have to be aware and understand that Liverpool is one of the popular EPL teams that has a very good reputation and it certainly won't be possible to bring in a coach quickly without considering the future of the team and from my way of thinking, Arne Slot is believed to be able to bring change to Liverpool in the future, Liverpool will certainly be ready to accept all the risks that will occur and have various alternatives to fix everything if something bad happens.
Totally agreed with your statement. I meant there were bunch of good coaches available in the market rather than him. I would rather make a surprise me like recruit tuchel this season. We have so many big names available these seasons. These names are:

1. Tuchel
2. Jose mourinho
3. Conte

etc. I don't know what things that make arne slot being chosen by liverpool to handle the club. I prefer to see a better name than him. I will even agree if liverpool bring amorim to the anfield.

Liverpool took a big gamble here by bringing him here. Many liverpudlians were also disagreed with it.



no one will have hope for the new coaching candidate, but most of them choose to wait for Liverpool decision and if they force Arne Slot to be brought in, we must give him the opportunity to make a change or at least half the season Liverpool must provide consistent performances.
as fans of the EPL team we have to be more patient and wait for the information that Liverpool will say later and we also have to be more patient to see what will happen and from what I think it looks like Liverpool will not really bring in Arne Slot.



This is slot's stats for the current season. It's not even impressive statistic.

Don't you watch the farewell speech by klopp? He has also been chanting arne sloot during his farewell speech. It's confirmed that if slot will be the new coach. We are only waiting for the official date for him to be announced.
35  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 20, 2024, 10:14:54 AM
The competition between Arsenal and Manchester City has now finished and in the last 38 week Manchester City has successfully beaten West Ham with a score of 3-1 and Arsenal has also succeeded in beating Everton with a score of 2-1.

and I personally want to congratulate Manchester City for achieving 4 wins in a row and of course now Arteta's troops have to swallow the bitter pill again because they failed to become champions this season, but of course Arsenal this season performed better and of course in the coming season they will still there is an opportunity for Arsenal to fight for the EPL title. Now Pep has succeeded in making Manchester City champions again and it seems we also deserve to congratulate Pep who has succeeded in making Manchester City a successful team. but of course in the coming season all teams will definitely make good strategies and there will always be player transfers, of course in this case we will not know the performance of the EPL teams in the coming season.

Source: https: www.bola.net/amp/inggris/fantastis-man-city-juara-4-kali-beruntun-rekor-baru-dalam-sejarah-liga-inggris-ff6aac.html
Manchester City made good use of the match against West Ham and won which ultimately made Manchester City champions this season. This is a very good achievement in the Premier League because Manchester City managed to get 4 wins in a row. Hopefully next season's Premier League will start soon and Manchester City can win again.

Are you actually serious? You want Manchester city to win it again? No! Because if that's happened, The English premier league will definitely be term the farmers league, because a single team can't dominate like this and it wouldn't be term as such, but a really big congratulations to Manchester city for lifting this year premier league title, even when all odds were against them during the cause of the season, but arsenal and Liverpool let them back into the mix, which they used in good effect.
As a fan of Manchester City, I am delighted that this competitive league will be elevated to the manchester city's league. If City is the only club capable of winning the competition in the coming season, what can we do? We can only hope to see the city win another trophy and i hope city will always be dominating the league like bayern did to the bundesliga. I congratulate Pep on breaking Fergie's record for winning the EPL four times in a row which is also unbelivable record for sure. 
People were betting against the city winning the competition but bookmakers knew better and always gave the city pretty damn small odds. Manchester City will break another record by winning the EPL for the fifth time in a row. There will be many things that need to be prepared first and guardiola is not likely to leave from the club too.


Lastly, the Time I was convinced that Manchester city was going to win the league was when arsenal loses to Aston villa, and the destiny of the title race got into the hands of Manchester city, that's when I knew that it's over, because I knew that Manchester city has the capacity to win all the remaining fixture.
The lost against aston villa has become the key for city to comeback. Thanks for villa by beating arsenal at that moment. City would not be winning the title if aston villa was not pushing the club to consistently defending from arsenal's attack. Thanks a lot for villa after a dramatic season.
City once again proven itself as the strongest club in the premier league. Arsenal fans was still disbelieving it and they thought that they had small chance to win. City proven that winning mentality is the key here.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Solana might be next leading, after Ether & bnb. on: May 20, 2024, 08:51:05 AM
I never doubted that Solana would one day be as popular as Ethereum and Binance. Because the concept built by the developer has made Solana so popular, especially now that Solana's revival is so visible where the price of Solana has increased significantly.
Its solana and celestia that I think have the most potential out of the other even surpassing formerly popular coin such as cardano, polkadot, and EOS or same category.
becasue the growth in both platform is actually quite fast enough.
when ETH releasing the restaking protocol, solana and celestia also presents the same thing.
with celestia its more of centered around the technology which is modular blockchain, in solana its all about TPS and speeds, though occasionally you gonna see outage its still fast enough blockchain.

what celestia lacking though is the dapps reaching billions market cap, if it can have at least some it can compete with solana, but solana on the other hand already aiming for higher place by market cap maybe surpassing BNB again in the future.
things gonna change a lot once bullrun starting to pick up in the future.
37  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What ways can a trader raise money? on: May 20, 2024, 08:26:47 AM
If they don't have a source of income to trade, then I would emphasize finding a job first. We know that trading is not just about being brave, but trading is a risky method for people who don't have a source of income. Even more so if they are new to this. It's a good idea for them to look for work while saving, then they can also learn about trading and what's involved in it. If they insist on trading, it seems like they are forcing the situation, and that is quite dangerous.
I always think of trading as a side job, so there's requirement before delving into it such as having income first, when trading isn't a guarantee that you get profit instead the opposite things could happen which is we on the losing side losing capital instead of making profit it become obvious that we need to find another rest assuring source of income first.
no need to be so fixated on the fact that we might make profit from trade, there's no guarantee, but with stable source of income, we can peacefully delve into the trading world without worrying we gonna end up homeless just because we spent all the money for trading, on the losing side and have no other income to pay the bills.
be settled first then later on you can venture into creating another source of income that is trading.
if someone is still contemplating about losing their capital in trading that make them hesitant enough to hold off from trading i think they better off find a good capital first.
38  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Question about futures on: May 20, 2024, 08:22:08 AM
Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?

Thank you for the help!

      The answer to your question is very basic: if you do not know anything about futures or trading, do not enter futures trading because it is very complicated. It is better to start with spot trading first. Many newbies try futures right away and end up wrecked.

      Because most newbies are stubborn, they think that their narratives are right for immediately entering the future. Investors who think of making a lot of money immediately or getting rich in a short span of time have a wrong mindset.
it depends really if you trade spot with $100 it probably not gonna give you meaningful profit or in other word just wasting time, what make future trading so interesting is the fast paced style of investment, you profit from the margin, you also being given chance to leverage your capital at the cost of higher chance being liquidated, I think thats fair game.
if the newbie is greedy and always think too highly of their own capability even trading spot they still can caught off guard and become broke.
its all about mindset on how to better trades, future is advantegous, eventually people who trade spot gonna try future to maximize profit or get that chance of multiplying the profit.
you get advantage of profit at the cost of risk while in spot you get advantage of safety at the cost of time.
thats why knowing the basic first is always recommended, like you said, before venturing into future trading, try to understand it first.
39  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 20, 2024, 07:29:00 AM
The last match against wolves has become the last match for klopp to coaching liverpool. It really saddens me how he must be leaving from liverpool. I know that klopp been in arsenal for 8 years and it may be the right thing for him to enjoy his career.

https://x.com/Tezzathekchen/status/1792250498437021729

That's the moment when klopp was showing how klopp was speaking about his farewell speech.
What do you think will happen now? Because from what I saw and understood, he won't be going to any club for now. Is there any selection available? Which teams could he coach? Because I think he'll rest for a while and then he'll want a challenge like that.
He will enjoy his time with his family. He has spend almost a decade under pressures and it's time for klopp to enjoy his life. He is also a human like us. I remember that in the past if klopp may be back again after he will be enough to spend his time with his family.
he has said that he may be coming back again after he was fully enjoying his life. There is a moment when you are just getting overworked and you must take a rest to refresh your mind.


The last match against wolves has become the last match for klopp to coaching liverpool. It really saddens me how he must be leaving from liverpool. I know that klopp been in arsenal for 8 years and it may be the right thing for him to enjoy his career.

https://x.com/Tezzathekchen/status/1792250498437021729

That's the moment when klopp was showing how klopp was speaking about his farewell speech.
Actually, Liverpool didn't want any of that, but this happened because of Klopp own wishes, who decided to leave Liverpool, he actually wanted to be able to provide big achievement by getting title at the end of his leadership with Liverpool, but everything failed.
Until now it is not clear and certain who will be Klopp replacement, but there have been several rumors circulating regarding the name of the coach as an option to replace Klopp next season.
But on the other hand, Klopp is still 56 years old and there is still plenty of time for him to be able to lead football team, whether in the future he will immediately receive an offer from another team or decide to take short break from the coaching chair.

From several rumors circulating, Klopp decision was taken because of request to bring in several players who he considered worthy of strengthening Liverpool but were rejected by the team management, but who knows whether this is true or not because he did not state this regarding his departure.
What is clear is that Klopp has tried his best to bring Liverpool to have strong squad, even though there are not many titles, but he is still one of Liverpool great coaches.

The decision to scouting the new players will be on the next head coach. klopp has also ordered liverpool fans to chants arne slot during his farewell speech. I can't fully trust arne slot because he is not having a good history in the managing the club.
Liverpool is probably gambling by signing arne slot from feyenoord. Im doubting liverpool's capability to compete in the upcoming season. I totally aware about who arne slot is.

Never put a big hope to him. You will be disappointed then.
40  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 19, 2024, 11:59:34 PM
The last match against wolves has become the last match for klopp to coaching liverpool. It really saddens me how he must be leaving from liverpool. I know that klopp been in arsenal for 8 years and it may be the right thing for him to enjoy his career.

https://x.com/Tezzathekchen/status/1792250498437021729

That's the moment when klopp was showing how klopp was speaking about his farewell speech.
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