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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
Hi True Asset,


I have been following URO since it was launched.

I am looking at importing UREA, I am in the import business and have spoken to my clearing agent and he is able to provide this service for me. I just need to find out, is there any way of getting a smaller shipment then 12500MT in the early days. If not, can you give me info on the volumetric weight of a 12500MT shipment, I have a connection with big farmers in South Africa and am very keen to prove your service.

Can you contact me so we can discuss this further.

PM sent.

Please come up with a shipping-container sized (20 tonne) 'uro-mini' contract and post what ports loaded containers can be picked up at.

No bulk supplier will ever give you an offer like that..
It's like going to a steel mill and asking to buy a plate of 0.3x0.3m preferably 10mm thick..
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 01:52:04 PM
ive repeated countless times the coin is no scam, but 1 uro is not worth 1 metric tonne of urea

Depending on the legitimateness of the contracts which were talked about over and over again it is or is not.
One thing for sure, at the moment it is not worth the price of a tonne of urea. If the contracts are real it is however valid for one tonne. Minded that you need to place minimum order, take care of shipping, import, ....
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 01:47:03 PM
Loving the thread dynamic: Pumpers hyping based off of a couple of dev posts. People bashing the coin because dev only answers specific questions. All the while, the price repeatedly dumps, meaning newbs getting burned as I type.

I guess you're saying this as well when you're watching the news when the NASDAQ goes down. 'newbs got burnt again today'..  Roll Eyes
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 01:34:41 PM
Interesting times in economic terms.

Doesn't matter if you think it is a scam or not. It is a revolutionising idea, hence why you get all the discussions about the topic Smiley

FUDers back in the day:

'Who on earth can be so retarded to believe the world would be round. It's ludacris! Thy would fall off - get some logic! Everyone knows the world is flat!'
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 09:55:58 AM
I wish I had started on BTC at this Level Smiley Smiley Smiley  Everyone has the same fair equal chance to get into URO


Confirmed by a tweet. Awesome!

People, buy now! This is real. GES CEO is a philanthropist. They are willing to buy $200 to $300 Urea to sell to you for 1 uro.

To the mooooooooooooooooon!!!!!

I bought at .05 btc, now the price is .025 btc. Come on, thanks for the cheap coins!


DYOR Read my back posts.

Fact.. I remember back when everyone was laughing at the guys investing in BTC at 11$/BTC. Miners were laughing their asses off when selling. At least back then they were.. Cheesy
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 09:50:13 AM
I think the coin maybe no scam,but devs know that almost people will not use URO to pay,so they can hype.Very clever!

on top, even for ACTUALLY paying for Urea shipment in Crypto, I don't see a compelling reason why this should be done in a SPECIAL NICHE COIN and not in existing Crypto coins like Bitcoin, Peercoin, Litecoin or specific payment-system-bnacked coins such as nautiluscoins, potcoins, or what have you...?

This world is full of coins already, OPEC are talking about flat-out using normal Bitcoin for oil export payments in order to economise on payment transfer cost and use a truly independent, non-monopolistic unit of account for international transactions in this increasingly digital age -- so why should a "special fertilizer coin" be required, or be even a good idea, here?

Crypto coins can (and should) be used in cross-border transactions (and many more applications) and, yes, there should be many different kinds of currency -- but, again, what is a "co-branded" solution for the mass agri-business-complex good for?!



The reason why URO is advantageous is because of it being linked to the urea market price..

and how can I be assured of that being any kind of a "hard link", as in Urea being ONLY linked to urocoins? Even upon first sight, I can see that this is exactly not the case as the lion's share of Urea trade is STILL cleared in dollars or other fiat currencies.

So there is still some good proof needed here to really convince someone from an economic as well as generally reasonable point of view.

That is the risk one takes when investing in this kind of technology. Only time will tell. Up until now there has not been any proof that it would not be real.
If all would be so sure price would neither be going up or down but would have reached a stable course Smiley
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 09:41:52 AM
I think the coin maybe no scam,but devs know that almost people will not use URO to pay,so they can hype.Very clever!

on top, even for ACTUALLY paying for Urea shipment in Crypto, I don't see a compelling reason why this should be done in a SPECIAL NICHE COIN and not in existing Crypto coins like Bitcoin, Peercoin, Litecoin or specific payment-system-bnacked coins such as nautiluscoins, potcoins, or what have you...?

This world is full of coins already, OPEC are talking about flat-out using normal Bitcoin for oil export payments in order to economise on payment transfer cost and use a truly independent, non-monopolistic unit of account for international transactions in this increasingly digital age -- so why should a "special fertilizer coin" be required, or be even a good idea, here?

Crypto coins can (and should) be used in cross-border transactions (and many more applications) and, yes, there should be many different kinds of currency -- but, again, what is a "co-branded" solution for the mass agri-business-complex good for?!



The reason why URO is advantageous is because of it being linked to the urea market price..
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 09:40:40 AM
If you do quote that guy, please remove his image. It's cluttering everything Cheesy

On a sidenote, I hope anyone realises that just about 70% of what is written here at the moment is a try to manipulate the markets emotions Smiley
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 09:34:41 AM
12,500 transaction by the way:

http://uroexplorer.cryptocuttlefish.cc/tx/c8dd55528c8453e317b75b7631849229b7184ca0cc3c960807ef4e6ea20239a7#o1
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 09:25:11 AM
You and the people you working are SCAMMER pure and simple , certainly you managed to create a hype with this fakery fake documents, fake deals  and some gullible people jumped into URO with their btc thinking they hit a gold mine, but graph does not lie some dumps has occurred already, uro Is crashing come on tell your Chinese whale to back the price up.

You refused to answer legitimate questions , nor provide legitimate documents. You cannot even answer simple questions.  All you have done so far is contradict yourself more than twice . GES only accept FIAT payment, I am lying ? Anyone here call the GES customer service they will tell you only Fiat money or guaranteed LCL credit.

You want newbies to fall in this scheme , in a few month you will most likely disappears not to mention the urea market is over saturated globally and barely hold any economical value , if this was even real people will be buying something equivalent to dirt. No sir we are not giving to you and your Chinese friends our BTC.




Everyone: splinter elements of various coin communities are attacking us from all angles - please ignore them and DO NOT fight back. The Uro Foundation is has a legal team to handle any false accusations they may bring to the table.

False accusers: you are not just accusing a BTCTalk account called "true-asset". Because I have the luxury of having identified myself, you are defaming me, Bohan Huang as an individual. Be aware that defamation is a serious crime in most countries. I urge you to cease and desist before the appropriate legal action is taken against you. Should you be found guilty, there are severe civil and and criminal punishments that you my be subject to.

It should also be noted that nations like the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK and many others now have active anti-cyberbullying legislation in place. This legislation can enforce online service providers to provide information that will identify and prosecute perpetrators.

Further, it should be also noted that network routing systems such as Tor, VPNs and proxy servers will not save you from ID discovery (refer to Silk Road as an example). As this is the third time I have made a post requesting you to stop, I have provided all the necessary notice required before engaging law enforcement agencies.

We have not attempted to bully you, and we ask you to meet the same standards.

May your peace and fortune in life be determined by your actions.

It's nice you made a new account to warn everyone Smiley
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 10, 2014, 09:07:38 AM
Everyone: splinter elements of various coin communities are attacking us from all angles - please ignore them and DO NOT fight back. The Uro Foundation is has a legal team to handle any false accusations they may bring to the table.

False accusers: you are not just accusing a BTCTalk account called "true-asset". Because I have the luxury of having identified myself, you are defaming me, Bohan Huang as an individual. Be aware that defamation is a serious crime in most countries. I urge you to cease and desist before the appropriate legal action is taken against you. Should you be found guilty, there are severe civil and and criminal punishments that you my be subject to.

It should also be noted that nations like the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK and many others now have active anti-cyberbullying legislation in place. This legislation can enforce online service providers to provide information that will identify and prosecute perpetrators.

Further, it should be also noted that network routing systems such as Tor, VPNs and proxy servers will not save you from ID discovery (refer to Silk Road as an example). As this is the third time I have made a post requesting you to stop, I have provided all the necessary notice required before engaging law enforcement agencies.

We have not attempted to bully you, and we ask you to meet the same standards.

May your peace and fortune in life be determined by your actions.

ok bohan huang as you said in your earlier post you do not know the value of the deal, how can you not know when your in the picture when deal is happening

Because that was not the deal.. That was about the ratification..
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 09, 2014, 09:40:49 PM
currently I am responding to the email from: Green Earth Systems HK <hk@gescommodity.com>  they sent me last night, as my post above states I will not be 100% until I received my order in which case, do not expect any more free coins.

I'm just talking about things like a signed order, bill of lading, proforma invoices etc. Things like that. We are talking minimum order size in bulk carrier ships Smiley
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 09, 2014, 09:28:42 PM
cryptshine, don`t bother convincing him that is Truthful again (he really has no life), he`s trying to get cheap coins by putting doubt into people and making them panic when in all actuality they will be panic buying in less then two weeks, which I don`t mind I guess, helps my cause of getting fertilizer, the proof that the uro is back with urea is there (RESEARCH TRADERS), I was 100% skeptic to at first, actually I am still a little skeptical (a little)  and will be until it is on my door step which then will make me 100% true believer, however the proofs,facts, emails, phone calls I have made have made me about 5% skeptical now about it all, so in other words I have 95% faith this is the real deal, until I read official documents, called for myself, send emails, received emails, call backs and the proof I needed to invest for a shipment, I am now in the progress of getting it sent to me, I cannot wait to show him with a big smile on my face of me sitting on my mt`s of fertilizer on my fruit and veggie farms, btw guys you should really do research I actually feel guilty of how much Urea I am getting.  

Do you have anything to back up your order? It could help convince others that URO is indeed legit.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AC] AsiaCoin | Pure PoS | 100% Interest | Mandatory wallet update NOW! on: July 09, 2014, 09:23:34 PM
Is there anything up on the roadmap to be released in the near future from the dev team?

We're working on a couple of ideas (all unique and never been done before in crypto, and all really have practical utility), I can't list them as our resources are limited (financially), and if we announce them, then other coins who have lots of BTC in their pockets for development costs can probably beat us in implementation speed.

A valid and rational explaination. Thanks!
In what way is the team finanacially limited? Do you mean as in not being paid for the effort or missing funds to buy the necessary?

Who would be up for some donations? I would be, but I know it will probably take more than just me Smiley

I`m in. Got about 1m AC and could spare some Smiley

Depending on what it's supposed to be used for AC could or could not be a good choice for donating.
If it's for external needs BTC might be more useful. If it's for the dev team as a reward for their hard work then AC might be a good option.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 09, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
You guys have any videos of Mr. Nilesh Nair? I would love to hear him speak. There must be about 100s of people interested to hear from him speak about his company's part in the URO Foundation.

I'm sure he would be able to grace his loyal investors some face time, even just a teeny weeny bit.

I believe the signatories to the URO protocol will stay away from this forum or for that matter any other activity that makes it appear like they are promoting URO in any way. Their job is simply to accept 1 URO as payment for 1 ton of urea. As soon as they start promoting the coin, people start assuming that they own a ton of URO and it starts looking kind of fishy.

They have nothing to do with URO the same way Pepsi has nothing to do with dollars. Their job is to simply accept 1 URO as payment for 1 ton of urea and that's it.

Exactly! And just like Pepsi pays their workers who produce Pepsi with the dollars they made selling it, the producers of Urea will get paid in URO. It's simple economic  Undecided

I think the producers will sit on the Uro they are paid with till the price is equivalent to the Urea they sold. These companies are in a multibillion dollar industry and sitting on some coins for a while is not a hardship. They all signed the Uro Protocol knowing they would be paid in Uro. They are not getting cheated out of the value of their Urea like you seem to imply. Additionally Uro-Urea transactions will probably account for a very small percentage of their total Urea sales.

commodity producers have huge  Shocked margins   Roll Eyes, so I guess if you believe that it's plausible for them to sell Urea at a huge loss in the hopes of recouping that money at a later date.
But even under that scenario once they sell the Uro on the exchange for a fair market value they owe more Urea to the buyer of the Uro so they don't recoup the losses.
So no matter what they are losing millions of dollars since the minimum order is 12,500 tons and there is no way to recoup that money if they accept Uro and don't currently own Uro to profit from the price appreciation..in which case it's more likely to be a pump and dump anyway.



Your response seems to suggest you haven't read this thread or any of the sites the dev has linked to. The following is on the uro foundation site:

Policies in Philanthropy: For the NIERs – Uro is not a sale, Uro is not something that fits the metrics of what that the Urea trading firms will pay for as an expense or an investment. for the NIERs – the best category for Uro to fit in is as part of the philanthropic and R&D activities these companies get involved in. Over the years – the NIERs have learned that handing out cash usually ends up with corrupt officials and middlemen absorbing the majority of the donations or funding – so the NIERs now have a policy: No cash handouts. This policy is the result of tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars in hard lessons learned from past charitable and R&D activities. The NIERs are fine with providing millions of tonnes of Urea knowing that it will go towards planting something that will help feed people in need, but not okay with providing funds so that Uro can be temporarily and artificially inflated in value on a currency exchange just so that a few early adopters can cash out.

So all your arguments mean nothing. The Urea set aside for this project go under the charitable and R&D heading. If this experiment works 1 Uro = price of 1 MT Urea and there is no losing of millions of dollars leading to company bankruptcy.

Just aside from that a lot depends on what will be the URO price by the time they get their first minimum order size in. And even then by just holding the URO they received they can convert it to whatever other currency they want according to URO market price. So basically there would not need to be any loss for the NIERs Smiley
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 09, 2014, 02:15:33 PM
Sent GES HK an e-mail and confirmed it to be legit for myself.




I wouldn't take just an e-mail as confirmation that it's legit Smiley
but it's a start I guess..
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AC] AsiaCoin | Pure PoS | 100% Interest | Mandatory wallet update NOW! on: July 09, 2014, 11:51:19 AM
Is there anything up on the roadmap to be released in the near future from the dev team?

We're working on a couple of ideas (all unique and never been done before in crypto, and all really have practical utility), I can't list them as our resources are limited (financially), and if we announce them, then other coins who have lots of BTC in their pockets for development costs can probably beat us in implementation speed.

A valid and rational explaination. Thanks!
In what way is the team finanacially limited? Do you mean as in not being paid for the effort or missing funds to buy the necessary?

Who would be up for some donations? I would be, but I know it will probably take more than just me Smiley
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 08, 2014, 11:07:17 PM
Quote
Strange that he is writing in latin on that site:

http://www.nileshnair.info/#our-group-of-companies

Who still does that these days? I recognised it immediately because I studied it a long time ago. It's not the kind of thing you run into a lot..

That's obviously still under construction.

Being under construction hardly is an explanation on why to write in an extinct language Smiley (the site is there since 2013 if the dates are correct btw).
Anyhow, it's just an observation.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 08, 2014, 10:54:03 PM
Here is a photo of Nilesh Nair in Fiji at a Sugar Cane farm

http://www.slideshare.net/NileshNair/nilesh-nair-fiji-sugar-cane-2007

Notice the publication date (and the date of the photo claimed)

Also here they are listed on Petro Finder as a commodity dealer

http://www.petrofinder.com/member_list/member_list_new.php?page=35

Also here is Niles Nair's personal homepage

http://www.nileshnair.info

http://whois.domaintools.com/nileshnair.info

Registered in Australia in 2013 by John Bergerson, the sales manager for Green Earth, here is his linkedin

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-bergerson/53/527/869

And finally look at the video of Nile's homepage, it's a youtube video and what logo do I see on a piece if equipment in a sewage process treatment plant?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FPigVHZgikw



6:02

What a forward thinking scam, even sneaking into a sewage processing plant and slapping their logo on it lol there is even more equipment shown later too with that logo

Strange that he is writing in latin on that site:

http://www.nileshnair.info/#our-group-of-companies

Who still does that these days? I recognised it immediately because I studied it a long time ago. It's not the kind of thing you run into a lot..
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AC] AsiaCoin | Pure PoS | 100% Interest | Mandatory wallet update NOW! on: July 08, 2014, 01:43:53 PM
Starts to look like we will need some kind of pump if we want to stop the downtrend.

Is there anything up on the roadmap to be released in the near future from the dev team?
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