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21  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: buying bitcoin and the seeming impossibility of keeping anonymous on: May 08, 2021, 10:20:06 AM
As for emails, dude you can create a ton of emails, not really something they can trace to you if you actually tried to.
I strongly disagree. While disposable emails are certainly a way to get rid of having your real personal info sold everywhere around, a 3-letter agency would easily find out which emails are yours and which aren't. Emails are not anonymous at all, and I am more than sure that NSA or CIA do have access to most, if not all email server backends.
 

Not to mention that the isp's are virtually all without telling anyone, giving all their users traffic data to the spy agencies and nsa, and even it they were not, they have ways of tracking things I am sure, and no vpn or tor is going to stop them either, this is the nsa we are talking about. So just through what you do on the internet, if they really want to know something they can. I am also almost sure that microsoft gives backdoors to the nsa and others.
22  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: buying bitcoin and the seeming impossibility of keeping anonymous on: May 07, 2021, 02:17:27 PM

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This is why people use burner emails, or at least multiple email addresses for certain purposes. Of course you wouldn't use your personal email if you really want anonymity.
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Do you know a good burner email site? Don't you have to give them your info, and can't it be seen over the internet that you got that email?
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: buying monero on getmonero.org and then transfering it to a hard wallet on: May 07, 2021, 02:10:58 PM
Thanks. i have heard someone say that when you buy a hardware wallet with bitcoin, they know you bought the hardware wallet, but this does not prove that you bought a cryptocurrency with it if you only store and buy monero with it. Atleast they have no idea what, who, or how much was done on it, is this correct?

That's a rather tricky question TBH... Monero is a privacy-oriented coin, but if you buy a hardware wallet online using a credit card (or paypal, or wire transfer) and have it shipped to your home, then buy monero on a KYC exchange using a credit card (or paypal or wire transfer) and withdraw said monero to an address generated with your hardware wallet, i'm pretty sure certain 3 letter agencies will be able to track you down if they really wanted to.

No I would buy the hardwallet with bitcoin, and convert it to monero on a decentralized, p2p exchange, that does not have kyc.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / how long do cash funded trades like western union, money order etc. take on: May 07, 2021, 02:06:06 PM
How long do p2p cash funded trades like western union, money order etc. take. What is the best one to use in terms of fees, which is the best in speed, and which is the best in safety an which is the best overall?
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: buying monero on getmonero.org and then transfering it to a hard wallet on: May 07, 2021, 02:00:30 PM
@jakesun64, this isn't appropriate for this forum board. This discussion board is dedicated to Bitcoin and Bitcoin-related topics. Your altcoin-related question doesn't fit that description.
You should move your thread to Altcoin Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0


Ok, thanks, I will move these subjects over there in the future.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: buying monero on getmonero.org and then transfering it to a hard wallet on: May 07, 2021, 01:58:43 PM
I'm not a monero holder, but i quickly glanced at getmonero.org.
It seems to be a project page listing the exchanges and reference wallet (plus links to other wallets). This means you wouldn't be buying your monero from getmonero.org, nor would you be storing them in an online wallet (unless you specifically chose to pick one of the online wallets from their list).

You'd be buying monero from an exchange... Which is where most people buy their crypto... You can do P2P trades, but most people get their crypto trough an exchange (AFAIK). Some exchanges enforce a KYC policy, other are more private...

Once you buy the monero, you can transfer them to a hardware wallet, yes... You can probably do this straight from whatever exchange you pick, there should be no need to go "exchange" => "intermediate wallet" => "hardware wallet"... Instead, go "exchange" => "hardware wallet"...Both trezor and ledger support monero... And yes, you'll have to pay a fee in order to make the transfer.
 

Thanks. i have heard someone say that when you buy a hardware wallet with bitcoin, they know you bought the hardware wallet, but this does not prove that you bought a cryptocurrency with it if you only store and buy monero with it. Atleast they have no idea what, who, or how much was done on it, is this correct?
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / buying monero on getmonero.org and then transfering it to a hard wallet on: May 06, 2021, 02:45:02 PM
I am a newbie to all this. Is it possible to buy monero on getmonero.org using their software, and then transfer it to a hard wallet. Are there any fees to do this? Online storage is not as safe, so I want it stored on  a hard wallet. If I would trust anyone with my monero online though, it would be getmonero.org. I have a computer that I have had for quite a while, I don't like the thought of any kind of malware, keystroke loggers or any similiar things on my computer when buying and storing online. I do have a good antispyware installed, but I still don't trust that I dont have something on my computer that could jeopardize my online coins. But since I would only have a relatively small amount online at a time, and would transfer it to the hard wallet, I feel this is a good solution to store monero. Any thoughts?
28  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / buying bitcoin and the seeming impossibility of keeping anonymous on: May 06, 2021, 12:46:31 PM
It seems that even if you buy bitcoin on the supposedly most secure exhanges, like bisq or localcryptos.com your identity can and probably will be seen by the authorities or someone else, but especially the authorities. For instance on localcryptos.com they ask for your email upfront. Virtually any email I would bet can be have the user of the email found out by the authorities, I mean we are talking abut the NSA here folks.

I want to buy a hard wallet, which requires bitcoin to buy, since my bank is anti cryptocurrency and blocked the credit card purchase. If I buy the hardwallet with bitcoin, I assume the authorities will know I bought it with bitcoin. My question then is, can I buy another privacy coin using this hardwallet where my security and anonimity is virtually guarenteed, using another private key and with an exchange like, bisq, I know I said they probably are not totally outside the all seeing eyes of the authorities, but does anyone have any other suggestions? The final answer to this whole question of anonymity, especially as it concerns privacy concerns seems, that no matter what they will know or guess that you bought some of this privacy coin, but as a last resort if they came after you, you could say, oh sorry, I lost my private keys and lost the coins. What are your opinions on this?
29  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [GUIDE] How to buy a Hardware Wallet the right way on: May 04, 2021, 11:50:09 AM


You can also ask yourself, do you really need a Hardware wallet at all?
They are not perfect and there are alternative ways for storing your crypto, including offline computer or smartphone with installed wallet and only used for this purpose.


*This list is work in progress and any suggestions are appreciated

I am thinking the same and am thinking about going the paper wallet route. Do you know any resources of this and the pros and cons. No matter what you do you have to have your private keys and passphrase written down, hidden and retreavable. How do you use a paper wallet. and still have the security and anonymity as when you have a hard wallet?
30  Economy / Exchanges / Re: buying bitcoin to buy hard wallet on: May 04, 2021, 11:42:05 AM
I want to buy bitcoin, to buy a Trezor model t hardware wallet. Their site only allows credit cards or bitcoin payments, but my bank stopped the payment because they have a policy against anything bitcoin.

You do understand that you will need to write your name and address for ordering Trezor hardware wallet so ordering with Bitcoin (or Litecoin) will link that with your identity.
Some hardware wallet manufacturers like ledger had multiple leaks of customer private information so I would suggest you should read this Guide for purchasing Hardware Wallet the right way and avoiding some mistakes.
Bisq exchange is also not perfect when you want to buy smaller amount of Bitcoins because they have higher fees, but you can also buy BTC on other p2p websites, or try to find local official Trezor resellers and purchase it there.

 

I am thinking of going the paper wallet route. It seems like either if you have a hard wallet or nothing, the only thing that really matters is if you have your passphrase and private key, so it seems to me the hard wallet does not add anything, other than it makes it easier to buy  monero more securely and and anonymously.

Could you let me know some of  the pros and cons of a papper wallet?
31  Economy / Exchanges / Re: buying bitcoin to buy hard wallet on: May 03, 2021, 04:34:48 PM
Do you own any Monero at present? I will happily buy some Monero from you in exchange for the bitcoin you need to buy the Trezor wallet.

I don't have any monero.

Is there really any difference in getting total anonymity between p2p on bisq and p2p on a decentralized p2p exchange like localbitcoins.com?
Localbitcoins is not decentralized, and has pretty invasive KYC procedures. I would avoid it if you can. Other non-KYC options if Bisq is not working for you are LocalCryptos or Hodl Hodl.

Thanks. I checked out localcryptos, they seem good, but they do ask for your email. The "authorities" could see this over your internet connection, no? Have you used it with no problems and is it as secure and anonymous as bisque?

bisq is giving me a fucked up technical problem where in order to do things a pop up window comes up and you have to confirm things, but the fuckin popup window can not be scrolled on to get to the bottom where you confirm things!
What OS are you using? Have you tried scrolling using Page Up/Page Down/Arrow keys?

Windows 10, and I tried those of course and all kinds of crazy combinations.

I found this open bug report on their GitHub: https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq/issues/4036. It seems to suggest if you use a higher screen resolution you might be able to fit the whole pop up in one screen without the need to scroll.

Thanks for that but my screen resolution is 1920 x 1080. That is the max that I can use and I even tried a lower resolution and it did not help. In that report it says "Use a resolution of the screen bellow 1600x1024 and press Ctrl+f to open the Bisq Filter tool." What does the filter tool have to do with it, I saw nothing in their that would fix the probem, and since the post was not anwered I wonder if others are still having the same problem, terrible coding if you ask me. Thanks for your reply. Any suggestions on how to fix it? it makes the entire program inoperable.
32  Economy / Exchanges / Re: buying bitcoin to buy hard wallet on: May 03, 2021, 11:42:26 AM
Why buying monero when it is bitcoin you need to purchase Trezor directly from the company, or you can use litecoin as it is only the alternative option for crypto payment to buy Trezor directly from the company.

Bsiq is a decentralized p2p exchange, no need of worrying to buy monero, maybe because you think the transaction can not be tracked, but it is just decentralized p2p exchange (bsiq) you are using and no need to care thinking about buying bitcoin or litecoin for the purchase as well, it can not be traced. Buying the coin you can use directly to buy Trezor wallet will be better.

Why mentioning LocalBitcoins, if p2p centralized exchanges are allowed in your country, then you can make use of a good reputed one, but know that you can not have full control on anything centralized, also that privacy is not possible on such exchanges. But, if possible and that you do not care about privacy (but privacy matters), then you can make use of such service, but it required kyc.

I will buy monero LATER when I get the hardwallet. Trezor only accepts 2 payments on their website, cc or bitcoin, check for yourself.

I am having a little problem with your english, but are you saying I can buy monero with bitcoin directly when I have the trezor model t hardwallet? Somehow I dont think this is true, I thought the hard wallet was to be used just to make sure your funds are more secure and anonymous.

Are there any any decentralized, p2p, exchanges that don't require kyc. I know there are I just can think of any of the top of my head, remember I am new to this.
33  Economy / Exchanges / buying bitcoin to buy hard wallet on: May 03, 2021, 10:59:44 AM
I want to buy bitcoin, to buy a Trezor model t hardware wallet. Their site only allows credit cards or bitcoin payments, but my bank stopped the payment because they have a policy against anything bitcoin.

I then intend to buy monero with bitcoin on a p2p site like bisq.

I have heard that basically there is no way to know, I know there is always a chance that there is some way, but I am talking realistically speaking, that you bought monero if you do it the right way, by getting your monero not only on a p2p exchange but on an app like bisq.

Is there really any difference in getting total anonymity between p2p on bisq and p2p on a decentralized p2p exchange like localbitcoins.com? Is there a better exchange option for this than localbitcoins, that has p2p and no kyc?

I am in a hurry, and bisq is giving me a fucked up technical problem where in order to do things a pop up window comes up and you have to confirm things, but the fuckin popup window can not be scrolled on to get to the bottom where you confirm things! I even have to wait a day to get an answer in their forum because of some kind of limit to the amount of messages you can post!

So if I only want to use the bitcoin to buy the hardware wallet, and use a p2p decentralized exchange like localbitcoins.com, is this also a safe way to buy bitcoin?

Any future buys of monero would be done on bisq, which supposedly pretty much assures total anonymity as concerns that you bought bitcoin. Of course me even talking like this on the internet is being listened to, but I think they need a legally provable method before they can ask for your monero, and even then you could say your sorry, I lost the passphrase!

Excuse my french, but these are fucked up times when just to use your own money and not the new mark of the beast cryptocurrency that they are going institute around the world, you have to jump through so many hoops.
34  Economy / Exchanges / Re: buying bitcoin on bisq p2p with interac e - transfer on: May 02, 2021, 03:31:13 PM
There's no way they can know unless if you told them when they start asking you what you spent your money on every time you made a new out going transaction.

When making a transfer, the reason for the transaction should never say anything about crypto if you bank's policy is against crypto. Use other reasons like bills, purchases etc

Thanks for that info. Do they ever get suspicious if you have many, like 5  $1000 or so dollar tranfers every month? Should I avoid a certain level of money per transfer? Also are there alternative methods for canadians to pay for bitcoin on bisq?

Lastly the worst they could do to you is close your account, I can't imagine even in the socialist hellhole of Kanada that they can take all the money in your account. is this correct?
35  Economy / Exchanges / buying bitcoin on bisq p2p with interac e - transfer on: May 02, 2021, 02:34:47 PM
If I buy in the manner mentioned in the subject through my online banking, is there any way realistically for the bank to know that I bought a cryptocurrency? I have heard if the bank is suspicious they can do a chargeback, where they cancel the transfer, though it seems the likelihood of this is low. Does anyone have any experience with this?
36  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: banks and if they allow buying bitcoin on: May 01, 2021, 03:17:36 PM
If it is can I rest assured that the bank will not find out I bought bitcoin this way? I live in Canada, does anyone know a bank that has not problems with you buying bitcoin?

I thought that Canada was pro-crypto, I don't know why your bank gives you problems. I suggest to just call the bank and ask them.
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I did, they said they have a policy against the buying of bitcoin or bitcoin accessories.
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: banks and if they allow buying bitcoin on: May 01, 2021, 02:57:05 PM
Canada has some hard laws against bitcoin, but you can always go to the bank to withdraw some cash, and make a deposit to buy bitcoins in localbitcoins. I would recommend you to talk with your bank and give them an ultimatum, if they don't let you spend your money then change to another bank or use paypal.
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I checked out localbitcoins, they look like they charge quite a high fee to buy bitcoin, like roughly 8%, is that correct? Where can you buy bitcoin without kyc with the lowest fees.... keep in mind, I live in Canada, I don't know if that matters, lol, I am a newb.

I you buy from a decentralized exchange with no kyc, through bank wire, does your bank know that you are buying bitcoin? I would guess so. Which leaves only p2p. I would like to find a bank in Canada that allows the buying of bitcoin. Although I guess if you buy p2p, there is no way for any of the authorities to know you bought bitcoin? Is this true?
38  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: banks and if they allow buying bitcoin on: May 01, 2021, 02:45:45 PM
You can choose Peer-to-peer marketplaces and buy Bitcoin. Only you and your trade partners know details of your trade.

Help: A list of LocalBitcoin alternatives (P2P marketplaces)
https://bisq.network/
No details of bank transfer transactions that they are for Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency trades. When you trade partner receives fiat from your bank transfer, bitcoin or crypto will be released. Bank will not know that bank transfer transaction is for crypto trade.

Thanks for that info. Are there any amounts that they flag? Or if one has to go this route and make many smaller transactions of like $1000 at a time over a short period of time, wouldn't that be flagged by them?

Also I am basically a newbie about crypto currencies, but isn't it true that you have to worry about dirty bitcoins, involved in illegal activity, wouldn't this info be available to the "authorities", like the banks and even government agencies. i have heard that some exchanges  have ratings from past buys though, so I guess that would be much safer, but that issue, is it or much danger?

lastly, isn't there an option to buy a prepaid credit card where you don't have to give them any of your info, thus making them perfect for buying bitcoin?
39  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / banks and if they allow buying bitcoin on: May 01, 2021, 02:04:52 PM
I just found out that my bank is against anyone of their customers buying bitcoin or bitcoin related things like hard wallets. I have heard it somewhere and would like to confirm or not the following. Of course when I tried to pay for a hard wallet with my credit card, it was declined by the bank. I have heard that if you buy bitcoin through your bank by wire transfer, they have no way of knowing what you bought. Is this true? If it is can I rest assured that the bank will not find out I bought bitcoin this way? I live in Canada, does anyone know a bank that has not problems with you buying bitcoin?
40  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / travelling internationally with a hard wallet on: May 01, 2021, 11:26:53 AM
Is there any danger in travelling internationally with a hard wallet? I am not afraid of confiscation, because it can be recovered with the passphrase, but what about the chance of them denying you entry into the country because you have an evil cryptocurrency hard wallet on you? Could I buy a hard wallet in my country, transfer crypto to it, then leave it behind in a safe place, then buy another same hard wallet in another country and using my passphrase get access to my crypto again?
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