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Hello guys!
I'm tired of fighting with online bookmakers, which is 99% of cases are scammers, as you all already know, so I decided to go in search of partners.
We would cooperate by helping each other with the stake, as well as exchanging matches.
I prefer Europe, especially the UK, Spain, Belgium, Poland, etc...
For more information and questions ask me on PM
You can't call all crypto bookmakers scammers that is not true we only have a few of them that are scamming users but their percentage is really low to say 99% are scam is not true, back to your topic looking for a partner online may be difficult maybe you should try looking around your neighborhood. Of course I can, please the representative of 1xbit leave this topic !!!! you are the biggest fraudsters in world of betting |
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Hello comrades, i hope you celebrated christmas nicely. I am very happy to see that my topic has interested many people. It's nice to see betting representatives praise their bookmakers (in my country it is said: "every gypsy praises his horse"). I already wrote, the only bookmaker that can meet my needs here is stake.com but their offer for sporting events is awful, maybe the worst of all bookmakers in the world. Fortunejack and nitrogen are also good, but they quickly limited me (fortune jack 0.7ltc maxbet) I know that we can bet 20-30k easy on Premier League and NBA everywhere, but I'm not asking for that, I'm betting on less popular leagues, and all bookmakers after 2-3 bets reduce my maxbet to a few euros... So your please don't spam the topic by praising your bookmakers that allow the less popular leagues 50$ maxbet. For a start, let the representatives of betcoin.ag call me to tell me why they closed my account and refuse any contact with me, I wrote to them that they can call me via Skype to do all the types of verification they ask for but they don't seem to have time for me  Few people who understand my story have already contacted me, and the rest please stop writing on my topic how your bookmakers are sure to pay money, not to mention that they limit the stake to a few euros after a few bets. Better go to discuss will Man City win today, or who will sign Haaland. For the end, I may be a newbie, but only on this forum, for most members I can give a lecture on betting I still can't understand what your goal is? what do you want from people could you be more clear? I'm looking for people who have experience with betting in less popular leagues, to help each other, who has experience with that knows what I'm talking about. |
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Hello comrades, i hope you celebrated christmas nicely. I am very happy to see that my topic has interested many people. It's nice to see betting representatives praise their bookmakers (in my country it is said: "every gypsy praises his horse"). I already wrote, the only bookmaker that can meet my needs here is stake.com but their offer for sporting events is awful, maybe the worst of all bookmakers in the world. Fortunejack and nitrogen are also good, but they quickly limited me (fortune jack 0.7ltc maxbet) I know that we can bet 20-30k easy on Premier League and NBA everywhere, but I'm not asking for that, I'm betting on less popular leagues, and all bookmakers after 2-3 bets reduce my maxbet to a few euros... So your please don't spam the topic by praising your bookmakers that allow the less popular leagues 50$ maxbet. For a start, let the representatives of betcoin.ag call me to tell me why they closed my account and refuse any contact with me, I wrote to them that they can call me via Skype to do all the types of verification they ask for but they don't seem to have time for me Few people who understand my story have already contacted me, and the rest please stop writing on my topic how your bookmakers are sure to pay money, not to mention that they limit the stake to a few euros after a few bets. Better go to discuss will Man City win today, or who will sign Haaland. For the end, I may be a newbie, but only on this forum, for most members I can give a lecture on betting |
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Of course you won't understand me because you are mostly bonus hunters and freebet players, but I'm sure there are more serious players on this forum who understand what I'm talking about.
Well, if you think most people are just bonus hunters, why look for a partner? if you are just a bonus hunter of course you can immediately browse the list of casinos on this forum with a good reputation and take advantage of the bonuses they offer. Especially when you celebrate Christmas and New Year's season. You don't have to bother looking for a partner while there are many bonuses that other casinos promote for new users. That is if you are a true bettor even without a partner you can bet individually and play all you have. Bet and spend the new year full of gusto!! Yes, I think most are hunting bonuses but I am convinced there are other players as well. Bonus these days are ridiculous, and in my opinion it did not bring any good profit. it's not a problem for me to bet 30k for the Liverpool-Leeds match, it can be done on every corner, but if you consider yourself a serious bettor who predicts Premier League matches, you missed the point. It's funny to me when I see people arguing about a Champions League game, bookmakers make a living from such players. And merry christmas, mine is on 7th January |
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Hello guys!
I'm tired of fighting with online bookmakers, which in 99% of cases are scamers, as you all already know, so I decided to go in search of partners.
We would cooperate by helping each other with the stake, as well as exchanging matches.
I prefer Europe, especially the UK, Spain, Belgium, Poland, etc...
For more informations and questions ask me on PM
How did you come with that number 99%? There are many bookies that promote their business on this forum and only a few of them are actually scammers or have a very bad reputation. The others (like 90%+ of them) are pretty solid casinos. Stake, primedice, playbetr, freebitco.in... these are all decent casinos which don't scam their customers. I already said: Stake have terrible offer for sports betting and not suit to me, playbetr locked my account without any reason (they say multi acc, but not have any proof). We are here talking about sports bookmakers not casinos. |
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I also think that 99% is wrong. There are always scam companies out there, but there are certainly sites with a good reputation here as well. Have you actually tried those ones? I'm not going to name any sites, but I think you can find out for yourself. Moreover, you also have to consider whether you want to gamble anonymously or not. And Let me remind you, problems can occur on every site that you play on.
ya.ya.yo!
Very interesting answer from the representative of 1xbit, you are very famous in betting world! Yes, I can freely say 99% of online bookmakers are scams. From the bookmakers advertised on this forum, I have a positive experience with fortunejack and nitrogensoprt, but the problem is limiting account very quickly, only Stake (platinum III level, wagered 640k on sports betting) never limited me, but the problem with them is a desperate offer to sporting events. But with the very popular bookmakers Playbetr (they returned my deposit) and betcoin.ag (they don't even want to return my deposit, I wrote even here on the forum that I am ready to prove any way to verify my account, but no one wants to send me message or help). I don't even want to spend on other "smaller" bookmakers! I'm a little off topic, sorry, we return to the main topic. I said which countries I prefer, I mentioned them because players from these countries are accepted in almost all online bookmakers, and they also have very good local bookmakers. I don’t bet on top leagues like the Premier League or the NBA. For example on a match I want to bet 5k I can only bet 1k and that is why I want to find partners from other countries who are in the world of sports betting. Of course you won't understand me because you are mostly bonus hunters and freebet players, but I'm sure there are more serious players on this forum who understand what I'm talking about. You already have a few good bookmakers where you play. Then why are you still looking for a new bookmaker? It is not uncommon for a bookmaker to put a certain limit on it if you win a lot. You have advantages and disadvantages with every bookmaker. Then you might be better off playing with your current bookmakers. If you are looking for a new bookmaker, the question is always how they treat you as a customer. Someone who advertises 1xbit is not allowed to talk about this topic at all, please bypass it |
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I also think that 99% is wrong. There are always scam companies out there, but there are certainly sites with a good reputation here as well. Have you actually tried those ones? I'm not going to name any sites, but I think you can find out for yourself. Moreover, you also have to consider whether you want to gamble anonymously or not. And Let me remind you, problems can occur on every site that you play on.
ya.ya.yo!
Very interesting answer from the representative of 1xbit, you are very famous in betting world! Yes, I can freely say 99% of online bookmakers are scams. From the bookmakers advertised on this forum, I have a positive experience with fortunejack and nitrogensoprt, but the problem is limiting account very quickly, only Stake (platinum III level, wagered 640k on sports betting) never limited me, but the problem with them is a desperate offer to sporting events. But with the very popular bookmakers Playbetr (they returned my deposit) and betcoin.ag (they don't even want to return my deposit, I wrote even here on the forum that I am ready to prove any way to verify my account, but no one wants to send me message or help). I don't even want to spend on other "smaller" bookmakers! I'm a little off topic, sorry, we return to the main topic. I said which countries I prefer, I mentioned them because players from these countries are accepted in almost all online bookmakers, and they also have very good local bookmakers. I don’t bet on top leagues like the Premier League or the NBA. For example on a match I want to bet 5k I can only bet 1k and that is why I want to find partners from other countries who are in the world of sports betting. Of course you won't understand me because you are mostly bonus hunters and freebet players, but I'm sure there are more serious players on this forum who understand what I'm talking about. |
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Hello guys!
I'm tired of fighting with online bookmakers, which in 99% of cases are scamers, as you all already know, so I decided to go in search of partners.
We would cooperate by helping each other with the stake, as well as exchanging matches.
I prefer Europe, especially the UK, Spain, Belgium, Poland, etc...
For more informations and questions ask me on PM
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The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.
If this is the only instance where he took advantage of wrong odds then there is a possibility that it was a coincidence or he just got lucky. It's not enough to conclude that he was trying to cheat or using tipsters services. A reasonable and fair resolution for both parties could have been to void that particular bet and pay his other legit wins instead of voiding all bets. Just my two cents. Then look at the post from this memebr, which is absolutely right! If I have already made an advantage in that bet, give me void just for it and pay the rest. In your first month of work still no one has successfully withdraw money from you bookmaker. I haven't even received the deposit you said I would get yet! |
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Great to see you have such a matches lineup on your platform, I was wondering if you have any welcome bonuses for this season am considering registering an account on your site but i will want to know your T&C to know better about your conditions for withdrawal. I'll tell you the rules, if you win money, they won't pay you. |
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As expected, the bookmaker is always right! I had a problem with 4444sport the other day, which is why I created an account on this forum, and if you have already watched the messages, their problem is not multi-account, but the problem is that I won money. Of course it is always easiest to accuse a player, close his account and end any conversation with him. It's a lot of fun to watch the representatives of casinos on this forum defend each other and no one thinks to submit one piece of evidence of my cheating. If I'm already being accused of having multiple accounts, why they dont show which other accounts are mine? I used my betcoin and playbetr account exclusively from my laptop, with home internet! Only when I was out of home I use accounts on the phone, of course not with wifi but mobile internet. Unlike betcoin.ag, playbetr.com returned my last deposit (which is greather than account balance at the time of closing) which is to be commended! I will repeat once again my account was registered to my personal email address which I have been using for 10 years, and the deposit was made from my personal binance account. If you really think it is possible to make more different binance accounts to other people it shows that you know nothing. So betcoin.ag want to makes me stupid, they want to say that I first made 2 fake accounts, and after then personally on myself, very funny and stupid. And I invite betcoin.ag to show everyone the proof that I cheated, I am ready for any kind of check, I invite them to make a video call on Skype to prove everything to them. Picture of my last deposit, in the upper right corner you can see my email address, which betcoin recognizes because it sent me messages. https://ibb.co/bHPFJ7KI will not write more in this topic, but I will open the topic in Scam Accusations and rewrite everything. I expect at least the return of the last deposit, which amounts to 2.26599549 ltc |
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So no one wants to help me here? Your excuse is that I am new on the forum?
I have never had an account at this bookmaker, this is my first and only account that I opened 7-8 days ago. I have never used any scanner or any program to help me with betting, I also do not follow any tipster! My account has been registered to my one and only email that I have been using for almost 10 years, to my real name that betcoin.ag can see when sending me messages
I made the deposit from my personal Binance account, which was also verified in my name
I can do all kinds of verifications to prove it!
When you think you're right, why don't you show a single piece of proof that I cheated? You are acting cowardly, you don't even want to return the deposit to me!
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This forum simply must start banning scammers to advertise themselves and keep stealing ppl money
I absolutely agree! No one is even trying to help, just waiting for them to get a freebet or some bonus. I have problems with batchoin and playbetr and also no one called to support and help me, but when $ 10 freebet is shared, everyone is there to praise them!!! It would be best for everyone to open their own bookmaker and start scam peoples in public without any shame. It looks obvious what is going on. you were placing bets on Champions League for only 50 EUR, and then place 300 EUR on a match where nobody ever heard of these team names? And now you complain that Playbetr also had a problem with you ? Trying to cheat is asking for problems. Playbetr is a sponsor of PSG, so who would be right here? If I may give you a friendly advice: Just play fair on bookies, and there won't be any problems. So if they are a PSG sponsor they must always be right, is that your conclusion? The biggest nonsense I've ever heard! 1xbet is a sponsor of the French league and Olympique Lyonnais, so they are not fraudsters according to you, they are sponsors of a popular club and league, a great conclusion! This bookmaker allows bets of 2-3k euros on all leagues, so I don't know why the problem is if I bet 300 euros. this bookmaker brags about having a great range of sports and leagues, and then they make a problem when you bet a lower league. Obviously I'm not the only one who has a problem with this bookmaker, as far as I can see no one on the forum has yet successfully withdraw their money. When you're already talking like that, try to open an account yourself and bet for a couple of days so we can see you. When you already mention my problem with playbetr.com, you are free to add betcoin.ag to that list, they took all the money from my account without the right to a deposit refund, and they will not attach any evidence! I've been betting for years, I've only recently started playing at crypto bookmakers, and I'm certainly not crazy about opening multiple accounts at one bookmaker! it's really scary how you betting members defend each other on the forum. Players have no rights, you take their money without 1 proof that they cheated! |
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Greetings to forum members and betchoin.ag. Becouse they did not want try to solve my problem via email and they won't send me any money, I have to write here. Last night I could not log in to my account and I received the same message as from playbet.com https://ibb.co/m42W95chttps://ibb.co/yhMDB24https://ibb.co/WV7cTsKThey said it didn't matter that I had an account on playbetr.com and that it wasn't a problem, but they merged my account with 2 betchoin.ag accounts. I have never opened any additional account on this bookmaker and I am ready to do all the KYC checks to prove it and other verifrication it they require. I used my account everytime on my laptop and phone when im out of home. They said im used banned technology to palce bets, what technology??? Im placing bets everytime manualy. The highlight of it all is that my account is in the red, I haven't even made a profit yet! The first time I tried the withdraw, a pleasant surprise awaited me At the time of closing the account I had 3.5ltc and 1.4ltc I withdraw, here is the proof when I tried the payment which I never even got. https://ibb.co/PNkGCtfI hope someone will help me on this forum! This is a known player, who has previously been banned from Betcoin on more than 1 occasion. We have confirmed that he continues to use banned scanner technology to find and place bets. We paid him his winnings in full on his first account, with the agreement that if he creates any additional accounts, they will be closed and funds seized. He has since created at least 2 additional Betcoin accounts. As stated to him, since the winnings he received in payouts from the first account exceed the amount deposited on the current account, this matter is considered closed. As always, any player who is able to follow the rules, will be paid extremely fast, as evidenced by our tens of thousands of happy players. Thank you I never had any account in your site!!! Never!!!! Give one proof of it? Which other accounts you connect with me? You don’t want to show any proof, when you don’t have it! It is a shame for this famous bookmaker! I am asking someone from this forum to help me!!! This way you can answer each player and take his money, shame! When you are already such a serious bookmaker, show everyone here on the forum where I cheated, give fucking proof! |
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This forum simply must start banning scammers to advertise themselves and keep stealing ppl money
I absolutely agree! No one is even trying to help, just waiting for them to get a freebet or some bonus. I have problems with batchoin and playbetr and also no one called to support and help me, but when $ 10 freebet is shared, everyone is there to praise them!!! It would be best for everyone to open their own bookmaker and start scam peoples in public without any shame. |
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What nonsense! I don't follow any tipsters or use their help!
If you find a tipster who sent the same match I bet give proof!
If you think the odds of 1.90 are not realistic, reduce it, or void that one bet, and not all!
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Greetings to forum members and betchoin.ag. Becouse they did not want try to solve my problem via email and they won't send me any money, I have to write here. Last night I could not log in to my account and I received the same message as from playbet.com https://ibb.co/m42W95chttps://ibb.co/yhMDB24https://ibb.co/WV7cTsKThey said it didn't matter that I had an account on playbetr.com and that it wasn't a problem, but they merged my account with 2 betchoin.ag accounts. I have never opened any additional account on this bookmaker and I am ready to do all the KYC checks to prove it and other verifrication it they require. I used my account everytime on my laptop and phone when im out of home. They said im used banned technology to palce bets, what technology??? Im placing bets everytime manualy. The highlight of it all is that my account is in the red, I haven't even made a profit yet! The first time I tried the withdraw, a pleasant surprise awaited me At the time of closing the account I had 3.5ltc and 1.4ltc I withdraw, here is the proof when I tried the payment which I never even got. https://ibb.co/PNkGCtfI hope someone will help me on this forum! |
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Still heard nothing from these guys.
The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.
What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.
The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers! But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus. Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet? https://ibb.co/R4p2tCyThis is not your entire betting history. You only placed these bets with a small amount, trying to cover your other bets were the odds did not represent the real value, and you know that very well. You did not post your bets where you won unfair. So if you want to post your bets, then post your other bets as well. Now you are just trying to mislead people here. when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me? |
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Still heard nothing from these guys.
The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.
What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.
The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers! But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus. Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet? https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy |
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Hello guys! After my problem with 4444sport today this evening i got problem with playbetr, i can not login to account, when go to chat they said send email to support. Answer on mail: https://ibb.co/PF5dMCjI never had other account! Everytime i used same wallet everytime for deposit. At the moment i had about 1.3ltc on balance. I expect this popular bookmaker to prove which rules I broke, and to prove that I cheated with multiple accounts! the only answer I get from them is this: https://ibb.co/nmxrN1Ybut they have no proof that I cheated because I never did! |
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