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21  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 19 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: February 29, 2024, 09:11:10 PM
Yes, not planned to start adding crap. But, some people think that when a new wallet is added I am recommending it, and that's not true. I wouldn't recommend most of the hardware/software wallets listed. I think the website should have good and no so good products, so people can learn why they are not good alternatives. The cell colors should help people to decide wisely.
I can say the same thing for all my list of wallets, and I am trying to be neutral as much as possible.
There are more wallets that I don't like and I don't recommend to anyone but I added all of them in my topic for secure elements.

Getting back on topic for Software wallets.
There is one mobile wallet I found and it's missing from your website:
https://wallby.app/

What do you think about adding categories for Web wallets and browser extension wallets?


First time I hear about wallby. I am adding it to my backlog, thanks.

There is a section for web wallets, "Web support", and mutiny is listed there. Regarding browser extension, do you think there is any wallet to recommend? It seems a bit insecure to use a browser extension as a wallet.
22  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 19 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: February 29, 2024, 05:44:20 PM
Yes, but not sure yet if this is a good decision or not for the website. I will see what happens. I added a new Btc Only row so it's clear if the wallet is multicoin or not.
It is a good idea, just don't go crazy and start adding bunch of crap like ''trust wallet'' and similar stuff.
There is a demand for multi-coin wallets and if we don't provide solid alternatives people will continue to use closed source junk.
Another good example is Aqua wallet that is Bitcoin only, but they support Lightning and Liquid network with L-BTC and L-USDT and confidential transactions.


Yes, not planned to start adding crap. But, some people think that when a new wallet is added I am recommending it, and that's not true. I wouldn't recommend most of the hardware/software wallets listed. I think the website should have good and no so good products, so people can learn why they are not good alternatives. The cell colors should help people to decide wisely.
23  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 19 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: February 23, 2024, 12:47:51 AM
Yes, right now the decision is to only compare hardware/software wallets with bitcoin mainnet support, but marking as something good if the wallet is bitcoin only. In general I think that bitcoin only products have better quality and technology but a wallet with shitcoins inside could appear and be superior in most of the categories. Another important subject here is that lots of countries use stable coins as an intermediate step to buy/sell bitcoin, so displaying wallets with stable coins support seems to be useful.

Regarding the ratings. I try to be as neutral as possible. I know that the green, yellow and red colors are not neutral, but I tried to recommend the best practices followed by the community. Adding ratings is not easy, I have an idea in mind that could work but I didn't decide if implement it or not yet. Basically the idea is to use those colors to assign points (2 points for green cells and 1 point for yellow cells) to each wallet.


It seems to me that if we are able to filter the wallets (which the "networks" filtering area seems to allow), then so long as the minimum requirement for the wallet to be eligible to be on the website is that the wallet has to support either "Bitcoin Mainnet" or something like lightning.. and yeah, I don't really claim to be smart enough to know if something is creating another coin or is ONLY pegging to bitcoin mainnet without any meaningful increase in the bitcoin supply.. except maybe there could be some ambiguity in regards to something like millisats or whatever... but that does not really seem to be material in my thinking.

Your network filter categories seem to be somewhat limited, so maybe in that sense you are mostly focusing on bitcoin versus shitcoin and everything other than bitcoin is treated as a shitcoin except Bitcoin Testnet and Liquid.., and so that does seem to be a design choice that somewhat shows the focus.. but there still could be some value in distinguishing various dollar-based stable coins.. but yeah it also seems to be a potentially slippery slope, so it could be that you have already figured out a balance that you consider to be sufficient.

I remember that you have already stated that you don't want to get into the business of rating, yet we still know that some people who are brand new to bitcoin they are going to be really dumb when it comes to bitcoin wallet trade-offs, and they may also become quite overwhelmed by having so many wallet choices, and from their point of view, all they need is one.. maybe one hardware wallet and maybe one or two software (or phone/mobile based) wallets.

It could be possible to have a filter that shows if the wallet has been rated by some third party.. but yeah, that could be a slippery slope too.. so I understand your potential ongoing reluctance in the recommendation and/or ratings direction... even though there could be some interpretation of ratings if we are trying to define what the Firmware filters mean.. the difference between source-available, open source, and/or reproducibility of builds is a potentially changing dynamic regarding how to define some of the terms.. including questions about whether any wallet with a secure element can be open source, at least right now there remains ambiguities and I am not sure if ratings would necessarily help with those kinds of concerns that any of us might have but even more so for the newer coiner trying to figure out these trade-offs and preferences.
24  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 19 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: February 22, 2024, 11:58:23 AM
You finally decided to start adding multicoin wallets from now on? Wink
Yes, but not sure yet if this is a good decision or not for the website. I will see what happens. I added a new Btc Only row so it's clear if the wallet is multicoin or not.
25  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 19 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: February 21, 2024, 11:18:30 AM
Two new features to compare added to our Software Wallets comparison.

- Seed Phrase Autocomplete
- In-app Keyboard

https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1760121967116681419
26  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 19 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: February 21, 2024, 01:45:30 AM
Hi. Stack Wallet was added to the website !!!
27  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 16 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: February 11, 2024, 11:37:35 PM
As promised, we added Aqua wallet.

https://thebitcoinhole.com/software-wallets

@thebitcoinhole
Can you please add new software wallet on your website?
Aqua wallet supports Bitcoin on-chain, Liquid Network and Lightning Network.
Currently released for Android and iOS, pending desktop release and open source code publishing.
https://aquawallet.io/
28  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: [LIST] Wallets supporting Taproot on: February 08, 2024, 11:46:59 AM
Thank you for doing the good work, and you are collecting everything I was interested before in one place!
It's one thing to collect it, now you have to maintain it  Wink
Yes, I know. That´s why I automated the version releases of all the wallets so the website is always displaying the latest version. The inspection of the changelogs is manual, but with the automation is simplified.

And don't forget to finally add Aqua wallet in software wallet page.
Yes, Aqua is in the backlog.

But than again, you don't have the full list of all hardware and software wallets  Cheesy
Yes, I mean all the wallets I have on the website
29  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: [LIST] Wallets supporting Taproot on: February 07, 2024, 08:24:42 PM
We compare 52 Hardware Wallets (aka Signing Devices) feature by feature.

Now you can see the Bitcoin Address formats supported by each hardware wallet: legacy, nested segwit, native segwit and taproot.

https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets

Soon, we will also include that info for our software wallets comparison.

I think you have a thread that you can use to notify people about this: 16 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature

This thread is mainly for wallets that are generating pay-to-taproot addresses and not a comparison thread.

But if you see a reputed wallet that is supporting pay-to-taproot and not yet included on the OP, you can post them here at anytime so that  dkbit98 can edit the OP and include the wallet if necessary.

Yes, I posted the link here because we have up to date info on the website about taproot support (and plan to continue keeping the info up too date). I noticed the thread doesn't have the full list of hardware wallets supporting taproot.
30  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: [LIST] Wallets supporting Taproot on: February 07, 2024, 07:51:54 PM
We compare 52 Hardware Wallets (aka Signing Devices) feature by feature.

Now you can see the Bitcoin Address formats supported by each hardware wallet: legacy, nested segwit, native segwit and taproot.

https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets

Soon, we will also include that info for our software wallets comparison.
31  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Seed Backup Solutions, compared feature by feature on: January 17, 2024, 02:15:39 PM
Added Stamp Seed

https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup/stampseed
32  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 16 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: January 14, 2024, 03:17:21 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. I will add it to the backlog.

@thebitcoinhole
Can you please add new software wallet on your website?
Aqua wallet supports Bitcoin on-chain, Liquid Network and Lightning Network.
Currently released for Android and iOS, pending desktop release and open source code publishing.
https://aquawallet.io/
33  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 14 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: January 14, 2024, 03:11:17 PM
Good list, is the code open source or are there plans to translate it, I can help with that if possible.

The wallets database with all the info is now open source and open for collaboration -> https://github.com/thebitcoinhole/software-wallets
34  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Best BlackFriday deals to buy a Hardware Wallet on: November 24, 2023, 01:25:32 PM
Passport Batch 2
- U$S 10 of free BTC for Black Friday (Until Nov 27)
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/passport-batch-2
35  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Best BlackFriday deals to buy a Hardware Wallet on: November 23, 2023, 06:01:33 PM
At https://thebitcoinhole.com/ we compare 50 different hardware wallets, feature by feature. We also list the best deals to buy a hardware wallet.

Here there is a list of all the current Black Friday deals:

Blockstream Jade:
- Original price: U$S 64.99
- Black Friday price (10% off): U$S 58.49
- 10% off with coupon code 'thebitcoinhole': U$S 52.65
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/jade

Coinkite Coldcard MK4
- Original price: U$S 157.94
- Black Friday price (20% off until Nov 27): U$S 126.35
- Extra 5% off paying in Bitcoin with coupon code CKBTC: U$S 118.45
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/coldcard-mk4

BitBox02
- Original price: U$S 126
- Black Friday price (10% off): U$S 114
- Extra 1% off paying in Bitcoin
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/bitbox02-multi

Keystone 3 Pro
- Original price: U$S 129
- Black Friday price (30% off until Nov 23): U$S 90.30
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/keystone-3-pro

Trezor Model One
- Original price: U$S 69
- Black Friday price (30% off until Nov 27): U$S 48
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/trezor-model-one

Trezor Model T
- Original price: U$S 219
- Black Friday price (30% off until Nov 27): U$S 153
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/trezor-model-t

Ledger Nano S Plus
- U$S 20 of free BTC for Black Friday
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/ledger-nano-s-plus

Ledger Nano X
- U$S 30 of free BTC for Black Friday
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/ledger-nano-x

Ellipal Titan 2.0
- Original price: U$S 169
- Black Friday price ($20 discount with coupon code 'Titan20' until Nov 27): U$S 149
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/ellipal-titan-2

D'CENT Biometric Wallet
- Original price: U$S 159
- Black Friday price (U$S 50 off until Dic 3): U$S 109
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/dcent-biometric

Cypherock X1
- Original price: U$S 199
- Black Friday price (50% off with coupon code 'BLACKFRIDAY50' until Nov 30): U$S 199
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/cypherock-x1

Ngrave Zero
- Original price: U$S 423
- Black Friday price (15% off until Nov 24): U$S 358
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/ngrave-zero

Satochip
- Original price: € 25
- Black Friday price (20% off until Nov 24 with coupon code 'BF-20'): € 20
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/satochip

Passport Batch 2
- U$S 10 of free BTC for Black Friday (Until Nov 27)
- 3% off paying in Bitcoin
- More info: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/passport-batch-2
36  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Onekey Classic or Bitbox on: October 23, 2023, 01:45:18 PM
You can compare them on our website: https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets/bitbox02-multi-vs-onekey-classic
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Comparing Bitcoin Nodes on: October 20, 2023, 01:30:02 PM
--snip--

I think all the products can coexist in the same table. Right now I added the more popular options, but I plan to increase that list. The nodes you mentioned could be added in the future. Regarding the features to compare, I just added some of them, but adding more is the idea. Adding a section with all the BIP implemented is a good idea.

I strongly disagree with you. Software and hardware is very different. It's especially confusing when MyNode offer both software and hardware. And FYI price of MyNode community edition (sofware) is free[1] while MyNode premium (software) is $99[2].


Regarding the prices, in the case of Raspberry Pi devices I added an estimation of the cost to buy them. In the case of MyNode premium I display the cost to build the Raspberry Pi + the premium software. I have that clarification on the contextual menu (clicking the cell): "Estmated price to build a Raspberry Pi 4 + MyNode 'Premium' for a one time fee of $99 which enables extra features"
38  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Comparing Bitcoin Nodes on: October 20, 2023, 01:26:46 PM
I'm with ETF on this, the table looks more like comparing between apples and oranges right now. Some of the parts that say "no" for something like bitcoin core should say "not applicable" such as the entire hardware or payment method (to buy) section which proves it is comparing apples and oranges.
I decided to put all in the same table, so you can compare the different options you have to have a bitcoin node. The "-" in the cells indicate when the item is not applicable.


Also I quickly looked at bitcoin core column and a couple don't seem to be right. For example year should be 2008-2009 since it is the continuation of the original software released by Satoshi. Also in the "BACKUP / RESTORE" section, if you mean BIP39 or mnemonic it should be clarified before saying no, otherwise bitcoin core supports creating a backup and restoring the wallet from it.
I know that the original software wasn't named Bitcoin Core, but I think is valid to use 2009 as the launch date. I fixed that. Regarding the backup/restore, I mean "Support to backup / restore all the node configuration" not related to BIP39. I added contextual info on the category to clarify that. Thanks for the feedback.


P.S. Why did you choose Parmanode as the only alternative full node in the list? It is brand new (~6 months old) and very unpopular.
No answer for that. I try to always add the more popular nodes, wallets and seed backups solutions to the website. But is difficult to include all of them, that's why I open sourced the metadata.
39  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Comparing Bitcoin Nodes on: October 19, 2023, 01:13:26 PM
The title for this thread and your webpage needs improvement. Initially i though you make comparison about Bitcoin full node software (such as Bitcoin Core, gocoin, bcoin and many more) along with available feature, implemented BIP and others. But it turns out you mix hardware, software bundle (such as Umbrel) and full node software (such as Bitcoin Core) which is rather confusing. Anyway, i think moving this thread to Service Discussion board might be better choice.

I think all the products can coexist in the same table. Right now I added the more popular options, but I plan to increase that list. The nodes you mentioned could be added in the future. Regarding the features to compare, I just added some of them, but adding more is the idea. Adding a section with all the BIP implemented is a good idea.
40  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 16 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature on: October 19, 2023, 01:35:17 AM
Added Sentinel wallet
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