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21  Economy / Reputation / Re: Addressing 'Suchmoon' Allegations, on: June 06, 2024, 03:51:09 PM
The website being broken, is a small issue, this issue can be fixed.

*Groan*  That's a horrible business attitude, I just have to tell you that--especially when the business is exclusively on the web.

So I click on this thread and see some bitching about feedback given by some of the most reputable members of the forum who've been here seemingly forever (Poker Player hasn't been here as long as Vod or suchmoon, but he's got my trust anyway), and I'm inclined to advise you to cease your complaining immediately without even looking that deep into whatever's going on here.  Those three members aren't in cahoots with each other, either.

I'm going to read the rest of this thread, but OP I'm telling you that you aren't likely to get much support here unless there was some serious misjudgement on the part of the members who left you negative feedback, all of which have generally proven themselves to have a good nose for bullshit.  You're just going to be pissing into the wind and in the end you're not going to gain anything except more red trust (maybe).


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*Groan*  That's a horrible business attitude, I just have to tell you that--especially when the business is exclusively on the web.
No it isn't that's an attitude fitting of someone willing to improve their application, and not taking criticism to heart.

Which is a great business attitude.

All of your perspectives are faulty, just because the name UNlimited Money Generator.

22  Economy / Reputation / Re: Only UMG aka GluttonyY could do this. on: June 06, 2024, 03:44:46 PM
Please support the flag.


I learned from the best




Yea that guy Gluttony/Unlimited Money Generator, there both scammers! They fooled us all!

We almost got fooled....

There is no such thing as an Unlimited Money Generator.

This is FAKE! ITS ALL A PONZI SCHEME, STARTED BY GLUTTONYY, AND HE IS PLANNING TO STEAL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM US.

SUPPORT THE FLAG BRUH, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE HE DON'T HELP US OUT! BRUH! SABOTAGE THIS SHIT!!!!!!

SABOTAGE US!!!!! MAKE IT SO WE HAVE TO GAMBLE ON SLOTS ALL DAY WITH 96% RTP ! BRUH! FLAG HIS SHIT! BRUH! HE  A SCAMMER!
23  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unlimited Money Generator (16+)(99.9% RTP)(1.0.3) on: June 06, 2024, 03:32:24 PM
Bro stop copy and pasting your messages, and leaving it everywhere, just put in one thread, your confusing everyone, you just saying a bunch of random shit everywhere dude.

Smoke and mirrors, where have you even tested the system? Dude? What are you talking about, 99.9% RTP, rate, That is exactly how it works.

You are inexperienced, so, step back. Educate yourself, then come back, and we can have a more logical conversation, thank you.


Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not copy-pasting my messages, I'm sharing my concerns about UMG with the community. If you actually read my statements, you'd get it. Instead, you're trying to discredit me with personal attacks.

You say I'm confusing everyone, but it's you who's creating smoke and mirrors around UMG's shady stuff. I've pointed out clear red flags, and you're not addressing them.

You think I'm inexperienced, but that's not an argument. I've done my research and raised valid concerns about UMG's "Provably Fair" system, their unpro website, and their unrealistic promises. You're the one who's not providing any evidence.

And btw, 99.9% RTP rate is not how it works. That's just crazy high, and you know it. If you're gonna defend UMG, at least be honest about their practices.

I don't need to learn how to spot a scam. I've done my homework, and I'm warning others about UMG. You're the one who needs to step back, reflect on your actions, and think about the harm you might be causing by promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

And then, it's like your a robot, every message, is the same format, without you properly, digesting the information.

Yes the RTP is crazy high, but there is nothing illegal going on.

Like I said, maybe the rtp will go down to 99%, but I have designed the system in a genius manner, to where it can operate with 99.9% RTP, and be sustainable.

You are significantly behind, theoretically, you are not able to digest these concepts yet, it may take a couple of days, for you to completely get your head around it.

But in pvp games, the rtp can be whatever you want, and it will not affect you, unless you have to pay for your website or something.

I mean, of course, the rtp is high as hell, it wouldn't be called Unlimited Money Generator if the rtp wasn't so high, and it couldn't function that way longterm.

Why do you think its called 'Unlimited Money Generator' - That's the point, its an impressive application hands down, don't try to trick yourself, into thinking its a facade.

We can within 5 minutes, tell this is something special.

Likewise, the website is not special. The backend is special. Versus casinos, where the website is special, and the backend is not special.

So which would you rather have, something that looks like shit, allowing you to do great things.

Or, something that looks great, but screws you over in the end.

Your choice.

There is nothing wrong, with your concerns, you just need to approach the situation better, and stop spamming in all angles to get your point -across, like I made this mistake of doing in the past.

and I am UMG, I am being honest about everything. It has a 99.9% RTP.

I gotta say, I'm impressed by your confidence in defending UMG, but unfortunately, your arguments just don't add up.

First off, let's talk about that crazy high RTP of 99.9%. You claim it's sustainable, but I've got news for you: it's literally impossible. In any gambling system, the RTP is a measure of how much money the house expects to make in the long run. A 99.9% RTP means the house is literally giving away almost all the money, which is absurd.

Think about it like this: if a casino had a 99.9% RTP, they'd be losing money hand over fist. They'd literally go bankrupt in no time! And yet, you're saying UMG can maintain this ridiculous RTP without going under? It defies basic economic principles.

Now, you might say, "But wait, UMG takes a 0.1% fee from all the money available!" Ah, nice try, but that's just a clever way of saying they're still making money off users. You can't just magic up a system where everyone wins and the house doesn't lose. It's a zero-sum game, my friend!

And let's not even get started on the "Unlimited Money Generator" part. Common sense dictates that there's no such thing as unlimited money. If it were possible, it would cause massive inflation, making the money literally worthless. Nobody would use it!

You also mentioned that in PvP games, the RTP can be whatever you want. Sorry, but that's not how it works. In any game or system, the RTP is determined by the underlying mechanics, not by some arbitrary number you pull out of thin air.

Lastly, I've got to say, your "backend is special" argument is just a bunch of fluff. If the website looks unprofessional and lacks transparency, that's a major red flag. You can't just wave your hand and say, "Oh, the backend is literally where the magic happens!"

Look, I'm not trying to be harsh, but as an expert in these fields, I've got to call out the flaws in your arguments. UMG just doesn't add up, and it's not because I'm "significantly behind" or need a few days to "digest" the concepts. It's because the math just doesn't work.

So, I'll leave you with this: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. There's no such thing as unlimited money, and any system claiming otherwise is likely a scam.

No, you are not an expert in this field, because everything you are saying is wrong.

I already told you, UMG, was not a casino, and instead, a platform where users are taking each others money, UMG is just making a small profit off each bet, with a 0.1% fee.

UMG is not built like a casino, so it does not operate upon the same rules.

UMG can have 99.9% RTP, because it was made in a manner, allowing all the money to go back, without affecting the house.

You still are having trouble with this concept, that the house, is not affected by players, taking other players money.

Every time, a user takes someone's money, the house will take 0.1% of their win, and it will give the rest back.

This is legal, working, and sustainable.

You are impressed, because you are not speaking to a fraud, and everything I am saying is true, likewise, I have no problem defending my perspective.

This is easy for, me, I have not created a platform, to fool users, but to help. So if you are trying to put me on blast, it won't work because you are only promoting the software, because I am able to explain all the benefits to you.

You are actually helping me because you are only allowing me to tell you the truth, and promote my benefits, so thank you.


GluttonyY, you're literally digging yourself a deeper hole with every response, and it's getting embarrassing.

Let's break it down, shall we? You claim that UMG is not a casino, but a platform where users take each other's money, and UMG makes a small profit off each bet with a 0.1% fee. Literally, what's the difference? You're still taking money from users, and that's still gambling. Don't try to spin it as something it's not.

You say that UMG can have a 99.9% RTP because it was made in a manner that allows all the money to go back, without affecting the house. Literally, how does that work? You're not explaining anything. You're just making empty claims. And even if it were true, which it's not, that would still be a ridiculous claim. No legitimate gambling platform has a 99.9% RTP. That's literally impossible.

You keep saying that the house is not affected by players taking other players' money, but that's literally not true. You're taking a 0.1% fee from each bet, which means you're making money off of users' losses. That's literally the definition of a casino. And don't even get me started on the fact that you're claiming it's legal and sustainable. Literally, in what country is this legal? Because in most countries, this would be considered illegal gambling.

And then, you have the audacity to say that I'm promoting your software by pointing out the flaws in your system. Literally, are you kidding me? I'm trying to expose your scam, and you're trying to spin it as a marketing opportunity. That's rich.

Oh, and by the way, I'd like to remind you that you're literally trying to defend a system that you yourself have already implicitly acknowledged as a scam by supporting the flag against it. You can't have it both ways, GluttonyY. You can't claim that UMG is legitimate and then support a flag that says it's a scam. That's literally hypocritical.

Your desperate attempts to defend UMG are only making you look more guilty, and it's time to face the music: you're running a scam, and it's going to catch up to you.




You’ve gotta be stupid. Bro I’m not selling anything on this forum just leave it be it’s done. If you wanna call me a bad guy for providing 99.9% rtp environments for people to gamble oh well kid. But I’m not gonna keep going back and forth with your delusional ass. I supported the flag because most of you are just stupid, I think I’m way too ahead to even be on this forum in the first place, so I mean if you think it’s a scam oh well, but I’m not selling anything on this forum mate, it’s done.

I don’t care about anything your saying because your in a fever dream calling me a scammer for trying to help gamblers your delusional, and I’m not providing my services to this forum, just to be called a scammer when I’m trying to help it’s done.

Likewise what grave are you talking about? Bitcoin talk forum does not affect me in anyway with or without it i will be the leading pioneer of gambling regardless.

It’s stupid users like you who cannot understand my importance and my impact that will call me a scam and lead other users back into the casino.

You are really a fool trying to talk to a genius . There is no point in interacting with you, everything goes in one ear out the other.

You are trying to paint me a bad guy for providing 99.9% RTP you must be slow.

Likewise you keep responding to me like I am trying to evade and deflect, your just stupid in my opinion, and I don’t wanna deal with people like you on a daily basis.

And I don’t care about your business anymore which is why I supported the flag, because if I’m only taking a 0.1% fee to put up with this bullshit you can wish that 99.9% goodbye.

Silly fool. Please do not sign up or log in. I do not want your business, you are a moron. Please keep gambling at the casinos, see if I care.

There are no flaws in the system you have not even made an account and played fool.

Morons 10 years behind. I need to find smarter people.
24  Other / Meta / Re: Why is this guy allowed to constantly break the rules? on: June 06, 2024, 04:16:14 AM
Bruh, spamming ain't okay anywhere, whether it's this forum, TikTok, or anywhere else. Saying UMG is 'complex' is just a way to hide that it's a scam. And let's be real, your platform doesn't 'save lives' unless you're referring to people saving themselves from suicide after losing money and time on UMG. Stop the nonsense
In other social media where they don't check more often with the way people post and share information, spamming might be said not to be allowed, but it exists in there since there are no real human moderators going through those spam posts. 
 
With the way that guy is talking, it is clear that all that he is looking for is a way to attract people to his scam site. There is no one going to be saved there, whether he is trying to scam gamblers all in the name of promising them redemption or just attracting them to his fake money generator site for traffic shake.


Shutup, idiot. Yea crypto battles are a scam! Traffic shake, diamond milkshake.

Cyrus, I am asking you please ban me from the forum.

I have abused several, rules, and cannot contain myself, from these filthy users, degrading my platforms.

25  Economy / Reputation / Re: Addressing 'Suchmoon' Allegations, on: June 05, 2024, 09:59:22 PM
Suchmoon, this is not a lie. In a pvp game, where me an you are 1v1 for 5,000 dollars. the House is profiting off taking 0.1% of the winner and losers bet.

Buddy, this is scam protected!

That is not a lie, correct yourself. You cannot understand because maybe you don't gamble!

The house is profiting from the fee, not the bets and taking money from your bets!

From what I have seen, suchmoon is right. You are full of it. Your constant lies and outrageous claims to shill your fake gambling site are pathetic. This is just another example.

The house profits from people's deposits. You can call it a fee, house edge, or whatever you want, but that doesnt change the facts. And who controls the deposit addresses? Who has access to private keys?  If someone were to deposit 1 BTC, for example, what would prevent you from stealing their funds?  So how is your site scam protected?

Cause if everything im saying is true, which it is. This could change peoples lives. That's the whole point/

The point is that you are marketing your site as an "unlimited money generator", which is the first blatant lie, while in reality you are running a simple ponzi scheme and you decide to whom and when you will pay out part of the money that people deposit.


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The point is that you are marketing your site as an "unlimited money generator", which is the first blatant lie, while in reality you are running a simple ponzi scheme and you decide to whom and when you will pay out part of the money that people deposit.

Nope immediate flag, that isn't true. Not by a mile. Not even how the game works. At all. Nope, not at all.

Absolutely not.

Site is scam protected, because long-term the site is sustainable, and has the ability to generate revenue without, screwing users over.

Likewise, while having a business model, that is not anything like a ponzi scheme.

Lotteries happening every 5 seconds, every 24 hours.\

Every 5 seconds, giving winners the opportunity to withdraw their money. That isn't anything ponzi scheme like.

Furthermore, the ability to instantly withdraw, goes against the theorem of a ponzi scheme. In a ponzi your holding your money, this you can win, and instantly pull out.

If there is a problem raise hell in the thread, I mean it is simple.

A scammer wouldn't take this project on, because they know they are not able to rig and scam the system, 24/7, they would need a full team.

So being that said, anyone who knows, the functionality of UMG, knows automatically, hey this is a really good idea, and the system, is built in a way to where there is no reason to scam you.

The system is going to profit regardless. And studying the business, model, we can tell UMG is in for the long-term.

I have control over the hot wallets.

Likewise, I have not, and will not take anyone's money, that would be stupid.

I deal with thousand of dollars everyday, money coming in and out.

A user will report back to you guys, if their money is lost, there is proof on my main thread.

Where someone within the first 30 minutes, has issue with their, money starts calling me a scam, reporting back to the thread. Eventually I help him, participate, and pull his money out..

There are other users, who win, they just don't come to the forum to tell you..

Usually they come to the forum, only when an issue occurs, sadly enough.



Suchmoon, this is not a lie. In a pvp game, where me an you are 1v1 for 5,000 dollars. the House is profiting off taking 0.1% of the winner and losers bet.

Buddy, this is scam protected!

That is not a lie, correct yourself. You cannot understand because maybe you don't gamble!

The house is profiting from the fee, not the bets and taking money from your bets!

Nothing in this world salad shows any kind of "scam protection". You can take the fee and the $5000 and disappear with it. Unless you can prove that you run some sort of non-custodial system but you keep mentioning "withdrawals" so you most likely don't. Not that it would mean much since all your other claims still make you a high-risk liar.

Any reason nobody has opened up a flag on the OP? Looking at what is going on and what they are claiming it seems like one is needed.

ditec_wrogn created flags here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951


Yes it does. It is not just Unlimited Money Glitch.

Another site was made, so users could withdraw, with no verification required. These platforms, were built to avoid, kyc, showing they are not a rug-pull, or short term scam.

This is something that was built, to be sustainable and long-term.

Likewise, Ditecs flags don't mean shit. He is going to delete them in a few days anyway, I believe he is a gambler, who is interested in the platform.

And disappear, with 5,000 what? Just to go buy an air mattress, be serious mate.

Likewise, I was not asking you to 1v1 me idiot. I was making an analogy. Your so stupid, just shutup, go back into what ever corner you came from, and keep hiding.

How do I say, if you don't know what the fuck your talking about then shut the hell up, nicely/?

Stupid user, mentioning a fucking newbies, flag.

Are you mentally ill.

'High risk-liar' - Yea shutup with that shit, go read my threads, do your research, come back and remove those stupid ass flags.

Mentioning a damn, flag by a newbie, with no damn proof, just accusations.

Gotta be outta your damn mind. Acting like that flag means anything.



Suchmoon, this is not a lie. In a pvp game, where me an you are 1v1 for 5,000 dollars. the House is profiting off taking 0.1% of the winner and losers bet.

Buddy, this is scam protected!

That is not a lie, correct yourself. You cannot understand because maybe you don't gamble!

The house is profiting from the fee, not the bets and taking money from your bets!

Nothing in this world salad shows any kind of "scam protection". You can take the fee and the $5000 and disappear with it. Unless you can prove that you run some sort of non-custodial system but you keep mentioning "withdrawals" so you most likely don't. Not that it would mean much since all your other claims still make you a high-risk liar.

Any reason nobody has opened up a flag on the OP? Looking at what is going on and what they are claiming it seems like one is needed.

ditec_wrogn created flags here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951


and likewise, suchmoon the fucking idiot, space moon good legend wizard.

If i was trying to scam anyone, id fucking change the name and come from a different angle you fucking moron.

Stupid idiot.

OGNASTY, exile this fucking moron!


THAT RTP GOING DOWN ALL THE WAY TO 1% i neeed 99% of the money I need 99% of the money dealing with these stupid motherfuckers.

Holy shit we just gone all out tonight.

We really just gone say whats on our minds, and that is.

Suchmoon, Charles-tim, Poker Player, are all stupid as fuck. I know they dropped out of college, to gamble all day on fucking slots. Fucking retards, holy shit.

EVEN WITH THE ALLEGATIONS, LET ME TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO FUCKING PLAY THE GAME.

Holy shit, suchmoon, is just such a ugly bitch on the inside, she lost all her fucking money to the casinos, and is trying to punish me for helping her dumbass..

Think I give a damn about money little girl. Think again, and fuck those ratings they mean shit. I run this gambling market girl. Better get it together.

if i GOTTA put up with you fucking, idiots, hell no i DON'T even want it give it somebody else.


Please, go report my accounts, and flag, them, so I can be forced to never log on this fucking forum again. (REPORT THAT SHIT NOW!!!!!)






I fucking support that dumb ass flag.

Stupid motherfuckers who wanna play slots all day.

Well rename suchmoon - to slotgirl

rename her dumbass to slotgirl \ her ass will be gambling all damn day on them slots losing her money Lol


CYRUS, and HOLYDARKNESS. Those are some smart humans.


26  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have made another revelation. on: June 05, 2024, 09:54:41 PM
Dude, I gotta call you out on this. You're trying to spin this "Unlimited Money Generator" thing as some kind of revolutionary gambling platform, but it reeks of scammy nonsense. You're claiming it's got a 99.9% RTP and no house edge, but that's just not how casinos work. It sounds like you're trying to justify a system that's designed to take advantage of people.

And let's be real, "players vs bots" is just a fancy way of saying "you're playing against the house". You're not being transparent about how the system works, and that's a huge red flag. I'm not buying your "intense skill-based nature" argument, especially when the website looks like it was thrown together by a high schooler.

Here's the thing, bro: if this thing is operating in the US, it's gotta comply with gambling laws. And from what I can see, it's not doing that. You're potentially violating laws and taking advantage of people's trust. That's not cool, dude. That's not cool at all.

So, either you're in on the scam and trying to convince people to throw their money at it, or you're just really bad at understanding how gambling works. Either way, I'd advise people to steer clear of this thing. It's got "scam" written all over it.

Ditec, do not spam, me in all angles, causing so much chaos for me. Give me time, to respond to you, what we are talking about is VERY complex. VERY.

So you stress me out, when you are coming from all angles. spamming this scam word, asking me to explain things to you, okay I will explain, but give me time.

You gamblers are just far far behind, and these claims seem like dreams to you, likewise causing you to negatively flag. When you need to just be patient and ask me question on top of question, and we will get to the bottom of it.

First of all, UNLIMITED MONEY GLITCH IS A GAME. You are gambling on the game, with fake currency. No laws are being broken, they are merely being evaded using a loophole.

So users can avoid, KYC, and experience much better benefits.

Likewise, we transfer from UMGLITCH to UMGROUP, UM, to BTC

Secondly,
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You're claiming it's got a 99.9% RTP and no house edge, but that's just not how casinos work. It sounds like you're trying to justify a system that's designed to take advantage of people.
I won't be taking advantage of people, you will. That's the point. You as players are taking advantage of each other instead. It's pvp. So now the house doesn't care what you do, because you are not affecting them, likewise, you can win however much you want.

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And let's be real, "players vs bots" is just a fancy way of saying "you're playing against the house".
Ditec if you read, the game tells you exactly what you just said,



Likewise, it will not be like this forever. Eventually the official worlds will be only pvp and no bots. This is just to increase the player count, by giving users incentive.

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You're claiming it's got a 99.9% RTP and no house edge, but that's just not how casinos work. It sounds like you're trying to justify a system that's designed to take advantage of people.
UMG is not a casino, it is a betting platform.

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sorry but now that you have received  your tags not just 1 but 2? there is no chance that you can still lure gamblers here to try
nor support your service because there is no chance that you can gather any possible opportunity from your plans .

Definitely not true, kid, once I tell people how to play and get them understanding. Everybody on the forum will play. This ain't no damn 123 scam, give me your money. Nah. Stars gonna shine in the night anyway.

Likewise, even without selling.

I'm using this forum to teach people how to play the game, so, there is an economy for users to sell information to other users for a profit.



Hey GluttonyY,

I've gotta say, your response is a bunch of fluff and excuses. You're trying to defend the Unlimited Money Generator platform, but your arguments are weak and don't make sense.

First of all, you claim that UMG is a game and not a casino, but that's just semantics. You're still taking people's money and promising them a chance to win, which is exactly what casinos do. And your "loophole" excuse is just a way of saying you're trying to evade laws and regulations.

And don't even get me started on your "pvp" system. You're saying that users are taking advantage of each other, but that's just a fancy way of saying that the house is still making money off of people's losses. And your "no house edge" claim is just a joke - if there's no house edge, then how are you making money?

Your explanation of the 99.9% RTP rate is also complete nonsense. You're saying that users are taking advantage of each other, but that doesn't explain how the system works or how you're making money. And your "it's pvp" excuse is just a way of dodging the question.

I've already made a report on Bitcointalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097) exposing the red flags of UMG, and I'm not backing down. I've created flags against UMG owners and promoters, and I urge the community to support them. Let's keep our community safe from scams like this.

Your attempts to justify UMG are just a bunch of smoke and mirrors, and I'm not buying it. UMG is a scam, and it's time to face the music.



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You're still taking people's money and promising them a chance to win, which is exactly what casinos do. And your "loophole" excuse is just a way of saying you're trying to evade laws and regulations.
No I am not..........

I am not taking anyone's money.

The players are taking each others money.

It is player vs player.

I am not tricking anyone to do anything, they wouldn't want to do.

UMG is player vs player.

No money with this house is involved, unless the House tells you.


Any money you win, was not from the house, it was from another player.

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And your "loophole" excuse is just a way of saying you're trying to evade laws and regulations.
That is exactly what I am saying Lol, why would we not want to avoid KYC, so we can withdraw, with no tax or verification. What do you mean? lOL.


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if there's no house edge, then how are you making money?
By taking a small % of the winners bet, who beat other players and take their money.

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but that's just a fancy way of saying that the house is still making money off of people's losses.
No it isnt'

The house makes money, by players winning money. Since players are taking each others money, and the house takes % of that.

So now, the house, lets players win as much as they want. Likewise, while take just a small 0.1%, fee, and it being sustainable, not a fraud.

I am just giving users the platform to make money, all of the money is coming from you guys, and you are winning each others money.

So you can win however much you want, and the rtp will always be above 99% and will never affect the house.

Now that I am explaining everything to you, I told you by the end of the day, you would be changing your perspective, and I believe you are now.

27  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unlimited Money Generator (16+)(99.9% RTP)(1.0.3) on: June 05, 2024, 09:32:16 PM
Bro stop copy and pasting your messages, and leaving it everywhere, just put in one thread, your confusing everyone, you just saying a bunch of random shit everywhere dude.

Smoke and mirrors, where have you even tested the system? Dude? What are you talking about, 99.9% RTP, rate, That is exactly how it works.

You are inexperienced, so, step back. Educate yourself, then come back, and we can have a more logical conversation, thank you.


Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not copy-pasting my messages, I'm sharing my concerns about UMG with the community. If you actually read my statements, you'd get it. Instead, you're trying to discredit me with personal attacks.

You say I'm confusing everyone, but it's you who's creating smoke and mirrors around UMG's shady stuff. I've pointed out clear red flags, and you're not addressing them.

You think I'm inexperienced, but that's not an argument. I've done my research and raised valid concerns about UMG's "Provably Fair" system, their unpro website, and their unrealistic promises. You're the one who's not providing any evidence.

And btw, 99.9% RTP rate is not how it works. That's just crazy high, and you know it. If you're gonna defend UMG, at least be honest about their practices.

I don't need to learn how to spot a scam. I've done my homework, and I'm warning others about UMG. You're the one who needs to step back, reflect on your actions, and think about the harm you might be causing by promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

And then, it's like your a robot, every message, is the same format, without you properly, digesting the information.

Yes the RTP is crazy high, but there is nothing illegal going on.

Like I said, maybe the rtp will go down to 99%, but I have designed the system in a genius manner, to where it can operate with 99.9% RTP, and be sustainable.

You are significantly behind, theoretically, you are not able to digest these concepts yet, it may take a couple of days, for you to completely get your head around it.

But in pvp games, the rtp can be whatever you want, and it will not affect you, unless you have to pay for your website or something.

I mean, of course, the rtp is high as hell, it wouldn't be called Unlimited Money Generator if the rtp wasn't so high, and it couldn't function that way longterm.

Why do you think its called 'Unlimited Money Generator' - That's the point, its an impressive application hands down, don't try to trick yourself, into thinking its a facade.

We can within 5 minutes, tell this is something special.

Likewise, the website is not special. The backend is special. Versus casinos, where the website is special, and the backend is not special.

So which would you rather have, something that looks like shit, allowing you to do great things.

Or, something that looks great, but screws you over in the end.

Your choice.

There is nothing wrong, with your concerns, you just need to approach the situation better, and stop spamming in all angles to get your point -across, like I made this mistake of doing in the past.

and I am UMG, I am being honest about everything. It has a 99.9% RTP.

I gotta say, I'm impressed by your confidence in defending UMG, but unfortunately, your arguments just don't add up.

First off, let's talk about that crazy high RTP of 99.9%. You claim it's sustainable, but I've got news for you: it's literally impossible. In any gambling system, the RTP is a measure of how much money the house expects to make in the long run. A 99.9% RTP means the house is literally giving away almost all the money, which is absurd.

Think about it like this: if a casino had a 99.9% RTP, they'd be losing money hand over fist. They'd literally go bankrupt in no time! And yet, you're saying UMG can maintain this ridiculous RTP without going under? It defies basic economic principles.

Now, you might say, "But wait, UMG takes a 0.1% fee from all the money available!" Ah, nice try, but that's just a clever way of saying they're still making money off users. You can't just magic up a system where everyone wins and the house doesn't lose. It's a zero-sum game, my friend!

And let's not even get started on the "Unlimited Money Generator" part. Common sense dictates that there's no such thing as unlimited money. If it were possible, it would cause massive inflation, making the money literally worthless. Nobody would use it!

You also mentioned that in PvP games, the RTP can be whatever you want. Sorry, but that's not how it works. In any game or system, the RTP is determined by the underlying mechanics, not by some arbitrary number you pull out of thin air.

Lastly, I've got to say, your "backend is special" argument is just a bunch of fluff. If the website looks unprofessional and lacks transparency, that's a major red flag. You can't just wave your hand and say, "Oh, the backend is literally where the magic happens!"

Look, I'm not trying to be harsh, but as an expert in these fields, I've got to call out the flaws in your arguments. UMG just doesn't add up, and it's not because I'm "significantly behind" or need a few days to "digest" the concepts. It's because the math just doesn't work.

So, I'll leave you with this: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. There's no such thing as unlimited money, and any system claiming otherwise is likely a scam.

No, you are not an expert in this field, because everything you are saying is wrong.

I already told you, UMG, was not a casino, and instead, a platform where users are taking each others money, UMG is just making a small profit off each bet, with a 0.1% fee.

UMG is not built like a casino, so it does not operate upon the same rules.

UMG can have 99.9% RTP, because it was made in a manner, allowing all the money to go back, without affecting the house.

You still are having trouble with this concept, that the house, is not affected by players, taking other players money.

Every time, a user takes someone's money, the house will take 0.1% of their win, and it will give the rest back.

This is legal, working, and sustainable.

You are impressed, because you are not speaking to a fraud, and everything I am saying is true, likewise, I have no problem defending my perspective.

This is easy for, me, I have not created a platform, to fool users, but to help. So if you are trying to put me on blast, it won't work because you are only promoting the software, because I am able to explain all the benefits to you.

You are actually helping me because you are only allowing me to tell you the truth, and promote my benefits, so thank you.
28  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have made another revelation. on: June 05, 2024, 09:11:39 PM
Eh, compared to my expectations, of 100,000 people playing at the same time we are far away from this..

Yes UMG, has steady traffic, not most of it coming from this Forum.

But it is still not the amount of traffic I desire.

I have big traffic, but not the numbers I want.

When I see UMG, I see millions of players all playing at the same time.

Which is why you still see me putting in that work.

Likewise, I am not ban evading, my account was unbanned, I was still posting on this account. This is my regular account, UMG, is my promotional account.

I don't know the numbers, I just see how many users, are registered, and the frequency users reach out to me for support.

Although I can create a referral system to monitor.

So you don't know the fact yet, where do your visitor come from, where do they learn about your platform, and you've already boldly made a statement that the forum contributes to a small fraction of your user? You don't have the number, or any number at all, and you still made that statement?

You understand that, to most, this is seen as making statements without any supporting data? Pulling things out of thin air. How do you propose people to trust that they can rely on your words if, by this instance, it's shown that you spit them out whenever you like, during your outburst?

Likewise, 1$ orders, in a world, for it to be really lucrative, and a system where everyone can make money and a lot of money, needs at least 10-20,000 players.

I don't have 10-20,000 players in a world that's for sure.

So the bots are needed as training wheels, to get the world started. To create that flow of thousands of users playing, but playing all day.

You know, 1,000 players, 2,000 players in a world, for 1$ orders, aint gonna cut it. And that's why you still see those bots in the official worlds. Because even with thousands of players, just placing orders for 1$, isn't enough to remove the bots, and start a sustainable economy, in my opinion.

Hmm... I wondered about one thing.

Your selling point is basically the entries [what you refer as luck] where people can get a bigger chance of winning the lottery, and that to make sure someone who lose will eventually come out as a winner, the previous winner will have their max entries capped while the loser can buy more entries, thus ensure them to get a higher probability of winning [again, an effort, not luck], correct?

So what'll happen if someone win and decide to leave? And so on and so on? Eventually someone will still lose, bearing the burden of all of those previous winnings, because he never break even, he never win. Ultimately, the basic rule of trading and gambling: someone's lose is someone's winning.

Holydarkness, Your such a great guy.

Like literally, you literally remind me of things, I forgot about, and then we can make progress!

You see ask me questions!! Man this is what I am here for!

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So what'll happen if someone win and decide to leave?
Such a correct interpretation, Holydarkness, what a smart guy you are. This is what I mean by prove, this shit is wrong because, if a winner decides to leave, and one user is bearing a lost, that user will just wait for the next round to start, then everyone will come back into the round, because everyone has the same advantage, the same amount of luck, and we can all win, the maximum amount of money with the minimum amount of money.

So everyone comes back in, and the guy who losts now has a second chance! For the minimum amount! If this is his last 5$ he can still win the maximum amount of money, when the new round begins!

This is why I say, something special. Users are not required to deposit large amounts to experience the benefits!

I have designed the system, so you can be profitable with the minimum amount of resources!

Likewise, I didn't pull the players from thin, air, I can see how many players there are using my database to see how many accounts were created.

I said, I was going based on a prediction of what % of players from umg, are bitcoin talk players. In which that estimate, was little, and not showing signs, of obfuscated or exaggerated information.
29  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 08:56:28 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...

Hey @GluttonyY, let's get to the point.

You're still trying to deflect and attack me personally, but I'm not afraid to speak out against a potentially fraudulent platform.

You ask me to inform you about the real issues of UMG. Um, didn't I already do that in my original post? You can check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097

I pointed out several red flags, including their unrealistic promises, lack of transparency, and shady claims. But I guess you didn't bother to read it or you're just trying to pretend like you didn't see it.

You say a lottery can pay back everything without going bankrupt. Okay, cool. But that's not what UMG is claiming. They're saying they can generate unlimited money with a 99.9% RTP rate. That's just not possible.

And yeah, I'd be happy to enlighten you on the shady practices of UMG. But I already did that in my original post. You can go read it again if you need a refresher.

So, no, I won't be backing down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.


My friend, if I put you in a booming economy, with a source to make money consistently. What the hell, do you call that? An Unlimited Money Generator!

My friend, you having a job in an economy is an UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR. I.E ditec, got a job at mcdonalds, all he has to do is go to work everyday and he gets paid. You do that for free. it is an unlimited money generator, and it cost you your time, which is free. There are many Unlimited Money Generator's you just don't realize it.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IS AN ECONOMY. BECAUSE.......

THE RTP IS 99.9%, THIS MONEY IS NOT LEAVING THE PLAYERS, IT IS GOING BACK TO THE PLAYERS..

You are acting like the money is leaving the game, no the money is still there, you just have to find a way to get it.

Likewise, creating an economy, where users keep investing, because they are getting paid!! MAKING THE ECONOMY EVEN BIGGER!

99.9% RTP, is allowing users to get paid, allowing users to profit. The money is not leaving the system. It is going to different players.

Align yourself, with the rewards of the system, you will get paid consistently.

I tested these theories for months.

There are no shady practices.

UMG, is a way for you to make money.

Whether you do it, gambling, trading, or playing the lottery, or both. Or staking. Or pvping. Whatever you wanna, do just know there is no limitation or rules.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IN SO MANY WAYS.

ONE WAY - THERE IS NO MAX WIN, BECAUSE THE MAX WIN IS DETERMINED, BY HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PUT IN THIS SYSTEM.

HENCE - XINF MAX WIN

THERE IS NO MAX WIN.

THERE ARE NO RULES, BEAT PLAYERS HOW EVER MANY TIMES YOU WANT.

SELL PREDICTIONS TO OTHER USERS.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR.

I should say, your response is a whole lotta car spin and not a lot of real point. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to redefine what an Unlimited Money Generator is. Newsflash: just because you have a job and get paid doesn't mean it's an Unlimited Money Generator. That's just called having a job, dude. And yeah, it costs you your time, but that's not the same as getting free money out of thin air.

And then you start talking about the RTP (return to player) being 99.9%. Okay, let's assume that's true (which I highly doubt). That doesn't mean the money is just circulating back to the players. It means the system is designed to take a cut of the money, and the rest goes back to the players. That's not an Unlimited Money Generator, that's just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna take a commission".

You keep saying that users can make money by investing and getting paid, but that's not how it works. If it were that easy, everyone would be rich by now. You're not creating a sustainable economy, you're creating a Ponzi scheme where early adopters get paid by later adopters.

And what's with the "align yourself with the rewards of the system" thing? That sounds like some kinda cult speak. You're not offering a legitimate way to make money, you're offering a way to get caught up in a scam.

You claim to have tested these theories for months, but where's the proof? Where's the data? You can't just throw out claims like that and expect people to take your word for it.

And let's be real, if Unlimited Money Generators were real, wouldn't governments be all over it? I mean, wouldn't they be promoting it as a way to boost their country's economy? But no, you don't see any government reports or initiatives on Unlimited Money Generators, even when their economy is booming. That's because it's a myth, a scam, a way to take advantage of people's desperation.

Lastly, you're trying to make it sound like UMG is some kinda utopia where people can make money however they want. Newsflash: that's not how the real world works. There are rules and limitations for a reason, and it's to prevent people like you from taking advantage of others.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff and not a lot of substance. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

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Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

I don't even know what to say to a person like you.

Part of me want's to reach through the computer screen and slap you.

Everything just goes in one ear out the other.

And then you will start harassing me on all topics, starting soon.


Oh, you wanna slap me? Well, let me tell you, there are plenty of people who'd love to slap you too - for promoting this UMG scam and taking advantage of innocent people. You're not the victim here, dude.

And btw, if everything I say goes in one ear and out the other, that's because you're too busy counting your dirty money to actually listen. You're not even trying to defend your scam with actual facts, you're just getting mad because you're getting called out.

So, go ahead and get mad, but at the end of the day, you're the one who's promoting a scam and making a fool of yourself. And I'm gonna keep calling you out for it.

Keep calling it out, your a new account, and your only posts are directed towards me.

You could be a competitor, trying to default my business..

Who says your word holds any weight?

Likewise, if you don't want users to be quote on quote 'scammed' Then stop bringing me attention, by spamming all of my threads.

If I am a scam, you are only helping me.

Dude, you're still stuck on the fact that I'm a new account and I'm focusing on UMG? Like, who cares? If I'm exposing a potential scam, that's a good thing, right?

And, let's be real, if I were a competitor trying to take down UMG, I'd be going after the big dogs like Meta Win, Stake, BC.Game, or Bitsler. I wouldn't waste my time on literally rural service like UMG.

Only you think my word has no weight, bro. The community can see the evidence I've presented and make their own decisions.

And, newsflash, me calling out UMG doesn't help you scam people. If anything, it warns them about potential risks. You can't blame me for trying to protect people from getting scammed.


Mate I am sure, when people read what you have wrote, they will understand.

Because I cant even have a normal conversation with you, without you trying to paint me as a scammer.

You cant even paint me as a scammer, without saying the scam word.

There is no way you can accurately describe me as a scammer, using vocabulary, other than 'scam'

Like say something like, 'You are a scammer, because your system, consists of users losing money, until they win, it is a ponzi scheme because you are siphoning money from old users, to new users, to get them to keep investing'

Like say something like this if you can, something to prove your claims are valid.

Because just like you say my claims, are fluff, yours are as well..

You just saying 'Your a ponzi scheme' does not prove I am a ponzi scheme

Likewise, I don't even think you know enough about the game to even be able to accurately assess it as a ponzi scheme or not.

Um, you stating it is a ponzi scheme so, actually goes against, your credibility. Because you don't even know what the game consists of, how is it a ponzi?

Your gonna have to articulate your point better, and prove I am a scam, without saying I am a scam.

No one cares what you believe. We care about what you can so thoroughly prove.

Likewise, you will be going on this rampage, all day, trying to prove I am a scammer. I am not trying to scam or fool anyone, buddy.

So right now, you are wasting your time. But I know you will continue on, because you don't have proof you are wasting your time. You still think I am a fraud.

Uh, but there is nothing I can say to you, because you are in fever dream right, now. You are so amazed by my invention it is actually, causing you to be scared of it.

I actually take it as a compliment.


(GluttonyY)

Vs

(ditec_wrogn)

30  Economy / Reputation / Re: Addressing 'Suchmoon' Allegations, on: June 05, 2024, 08:33:20 PM
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Ditec, nobody can even have a normal conversation , with you your just spamming. I just explained the provably fair on your thread, what the hell are you talking about. Go read, because your not reading, your just ranting. So I am not going to read anything your saying, until you read what I said. You just spamming while I am sleep with a whole bunch of bullshit, bro.

Literally just explained everything on your thread, gotta be joking, kid.

I am not reading anything you are saying bro, I promise you.

GluttonyY, are you kidding me? You're accusing me of spamming and not reading your posts, but it's clear you're just trying to dodge my scam report. I've read every single one of your responses and I'm still not buying what you're selling.

Your "explanations" are just a bunch of vague promises and buzzwords. You're not providing any real evidence or transparency, and it's obvious you're trying to distract from the real issues with UMG.

I'm actually pretty angry that you're falsely accusing me of not reading your posts. I've taken the time to carefully read and respond to each of your points, and it's clear you're not interested in having a real conversation.

UMG is a scam, and I'm not backing down from saying it. Your platform is built on false promises and misleading claims, and you're trying to take advantage of people's trust. Stay away from UMG, folks, and support my flags against UMG owners and promoters!

Who are you to tell anyone what to do. You are just an account with 10 posts, all regarding me on the Bitcoin Talk Forum..

Your posts hold no weight, but I am still hearing you out.

Your just screaming though, your not really providing anything relative.

I mean at the bare minimum, you have not proven your opinion is that of substance.

I have created a crypto currency, exchange, and a gambling platform, that is a competitor to the leading crypto casinos, all in the timespan of 6-8months, I mean bare minimum, my word holds more weight than yours.

Users just wanna see what you say, and how I handle it. And if I am legit/
 
But I will have to show them, if you act like a idiot, there is no hope for you.

Users, just want to see if UMG, is real or not. Once it is confirmed, I mean, you have gambling X10 at your fingertips, Mate.

I am hearing you out, and I was trying to hear you out. But your responses make it hard, 'Hey Gluttony, you are a liar', 'Hey @Gluttony, Your deflecting your lying'

Like mate. Who the hell are you talking to? Cause you aren't talking to me.

Might be the other Gluttony.

I gotta say, your response is a whole lotta sidestepping and not a lot of real talk. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to discredit me because I only have 10 posts (btw, it's 27, but who's counting?). Newsflash: the number of posts doesn't determine the validity of someone's argument. If that were the case, spammers would be the most credible people on the internet.

And speaking of posts, you only have 99 posts yourself. Not exactly a veteran of the forum, are you? But I digress.

You say my posts hold no weight, but I think any sane person would disagree. I've provided a detailed report on why UMG is a scam, and you've responded with... well, not much of anything concrete.

Now, you claim to have created a crypto currency, exchange, and gambling platform in 6-8 months. That's quite a feat, if true. But where's the beef? You can't just throw out a claim like that and expect people to take your word for it. Show us the goods, dude.

And let's be real, if UMG was legit, sane people wouldn't bother trying it out. It sounds too good to be true, and we all know what they say about that.

Lastly, I gotta say, you're literally a glutton for trying to scam people's time and money. It's like you're addicted to taking advantage of others. Get a new hobby, dude.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

Says the user, who starts and ends his passages, the same way everytime, 'fluff'

Anyways, uh, you going on delusional rampages now, here is my crypto currency exchange allowing users, to deposit bitcoin and withdraw , their winnings from umglitch to bitcoin - unlimitedmoneygroup.com

Here is my website, allowing users, to gamble with 99.9% RTP unlimitedmoneyglitch.com

There are two websites, so users can play without KYC.
31  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 08:27:51 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...

Hey @GluttonyY, let's get to the point.

You're still trying to deflect and attack me personally, but I'm not afraid to speak out against a potentially fraudulent platform.

You ask me to inform you about the real issues of UMG. Um, didn't I already do that in my original post? You can check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097

I pointed out several red flags, including their unrealistic promises, lack of transparency, and shady claims. But I guess you didn't bother to read it or you're just trying to pretend like you didn't see it.

You say a lottery can pay back everything without going bankrupt. Okay, cool. But that's not what UMG is claiming. They're saying they can generate unlimited money with a 99.9% RTP rate. That's just not possible.

And yeah, I'd be happy to enlighten you on the shady practices of UMG. But I already did that in my original post. You can go read it again if you need a refresher.

So, no, I won't be backing down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.


My friend, if I put you in a booming economy, with a source to make money consistently. What the hell, do you call that? An Unlimited Money Generator!

My friend, you having a job in an economy is an UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR. I.E ditec, got a job at mcdonalds, all he has to do is go to work everyday and he gets paid. You do that for free. it is an unlimited money generator, and it cost you your time, which is free. There are many Unlimited Money Generator's you just don't realize it.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IS AN ECONOMY. BECAUSE.......

THE RTP IS 99.9%, THIS MONEY IS NOT LEAVING THE PLAYERS, IT IS GOING BACK TO THE PLAYERS..

You are acting like the money is leaving the game, no the money is still there, you just have to find a way to get it.

Likewise, creating an economy, where users keep investing, because they are getting paid!! MAKING THE ECONOMY EVEN BIGGER!

99.9% RTP, is allowing users to get paid, allowing users to profit. The money is not leaving the system. It is going to different players.

Align yourself, with the rewards of the system, you will get paid consistently.

I tested these theories for months.

There are no shady practices.

UMG, is a way for you to make money.

Whether you do it, gambling, trading, or playing the lottery, or both. Or staking. Or pvping. Whatever you wanna, do just know there is no limitation or rules.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IN SO MANY WAYS.

ONE WAY - THERE IS NO MAX WIN, BECAUSE THE MAX WIN IS DETERMINED, BY HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PUT IN THIS SYSTEM.

HENCE - XINF MAX WIN

THERE IS NO MAX WIN.

THERE ARE NO RULES, BEAT PLAYERS HOW EVER MANY TIMES YOU WANT.

SELL PREDICTIONS TO OTHER USERS.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR.

I should say, your response is a whole lotta car spin and not a lot of real point. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to redefine what an Unlimited Money Generator is. Newsflash: just because you have a job and get paid doesn't mean it's an Unlimited Money Generator. That's just called having a job, dude. And yeah, it costs you your time, but that's not the same as getting free money out of thin air.

And then you start talking about the RTP (return to player) being 99.9%. Okay, let's assume that's true (which I highly doubt). That doesn't mean the money is just circulating back to the players. It means the system is designed to take a cut of the money, and the rest goes back to the players. That's not an Unlimited Money Generator, that's just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna take a commission".

You keep saying that users can make money by investing and getting paid, but that's not how it works. If it were that easy, everyone would be rich by now. You're not creating a sustainable economy, you're creating a Ponzi scheme where early adopters get paid by later adopters.

And what's with the "align yourself with the rewards of the system" thing? That sounds like some kinda cult speak. You're not offering a legitimate way to make money, you're offering a way to get caught up in a scam.

You claim to have tested these theories for months, but where's the proof? Where's the data? You can't just throw out claims like that and expect people to take your word for it.

And let's be real, if Unlimited Money Generators were real, wouldn't governments be all over it? I mean, wouldn't they be promoting it as a way to boost their country's economy? But no, you don't see any government reports or initiatives on Unlimited Money Generators, even when their economy is booming. That's because it's a myth, a scam, a way to take advantage of people's desperation.

Lastly, you're trying to make it sound like UMG is some kinda utopia where people can make money however they want. Newsflash: that's not how the real world works. There are rules and limitations for a reason, and it's to prevent people like you from taking advantage of others.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff and not a lot of substance. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

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Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

I don't even know what to say to a person like you.

Part of me want's to reach through the computer screen and slap you.

Everything just goes in one ear out the other.

And then you will start harassing me on all topics, starting soon.


Oh, you wanna slap me? Well, let me tell you, there are plenty of people who'd love to slap you too - for promoting this UMG scam and taking advantage of innocent people. You're not the victim here, dude.

And btw, if everything I say goes in one ear and out the other, that's because you're too busy counting your dirty money to actually listen. You're not even trying to defend your scam with actual facts, you're just getting mad because you're getting called out.

So, go ahead and get mad, but at the end of the day, you're the one who's promoting a scam and making a fool of yourself. And I'm gonna keep calling you out for it.

Keep calling it out, your a new account, and your only posts are directed towards me.

You could be a competitor, trying to default my business..

Who says your word holds any weight?

Likewise, if you don't want users to be quote on quote 'scammed' Then stop bringing me attention, by spamming all of my threads.

If I am a scam, you are only helping me.
32  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unlimited Money Generator (16+)(99.9% RTP)(1.0.3) on: June 05, 2024, 08:18:40 PM
Bro stop copy and pasting your messages, and leaving it everywhere, just put in one thread, your confusing everyone, you just saying a bunch of random shit everywhere dude.

Smoke and mirrors, where have you even tested the system? Dude? What are you talking about, 99.9% RTP, rate, That is exactly how it works.

You are inexperienced, so, step back. Educate yourself, then come back, and we can have a more logical conversation, thank you.


Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not copy-pasting my messages, I'm sharing my concerns about UMG with the community. If you actually read my statements, you'd get it. Instead, you're trying to discredit me with personal attacks.

You say I'm confusing everyone, but it's you who's creating smoke and mirrors around UMG's shady stuff. I've pointed out clear red flags, and you're not addressing them.

You think I'm inexperienced, but that's not an argument. I've done my research and raised valid concerns about UMG's "Provably Fair" system, their unpro website, and their unrealistic promises. You're the one who's not providing any evidence.

And btw, 99.9% RTP rate is not how it works. That's just crazy high, and you know it. If you're gonna defend UMG, at least be honest about their practices.

I don't need to learn how to spot a scam. I've done my homework, and I'm warning others about UMG. You're the one who needs to step back, reflect on your actions, and think about the harm you might be causing by promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

And then, it's like your a robot, every message, is the same format, without you properly, digesting the information.

Yes the RTP is crazy high, but there is nothing illegal going on.

Like I said, maybe the rtp will go down to 99%, but I have designed the system in a genius manner, to where it can operate with 99.9% RTP, and be sustainable.

You are significantly behind, theoretically, you are not able to digest these concepts yet, it may take a couple of days, for you to completely get your head around it.

But in pvp games, the rtp can be whatever you want, and it will not affect you, unless you have to pay for your website or something.

I mean, of course, the rtp is high as hell, it wouldn't be called Unlimited Money Generator if the rtp wasn't so high, and it couldn't function that way longterm.

Why do you think its called 'Unlimited Money Generator' - That's the point, its an impressive application hands down, don't try to trick yourself, into thinking its a facade.

We can within 5 minutes, tell this is something special.

Likewise, the website is not special. The backend is special. Versus casinos, where the website is special, and the backend is not special.

So which would you rather have, something that looks like shit, allowing you to do great things.

Or, something that looks great, but screws you over in the end.

Your choice.

There is nothing wrong, with your concerns, you just need to approach the situation better, and stop spamming in all angles to get your point -across, like I made this mistake of doing in the past.

and I am UMG, I am being honest about everything. It has a 99.9% RTP.
33  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 08:12:51 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...

Hey @GluttonyY, let's get to the point.

You're still trying to deflect and attack me personally, but I'm not afraid to speak out against a potentially fraudulent platform.

You ask me to inform you about the real issues of UMG. Um, didn't I already do that in my original post? You can check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097

I pointed out several red flags, including their unrealistic promises, lack of transparency, and shady claims. But I guess you didn't bother to read it or you're just trying to pretend like you didn't see it.

You say a lottery can pay back everything without going bankrupt. Okay, cool. But that's not what UMG is claiming. They're saying they can generate unlimited money with a 99.9% RTP rate. That's just not possible.

And yeah, I'd be happy to enlighten you on the shady practices of UMG. But I already did that in my original post. You can go read it again if you need a refresher.

So, no, I won't be backing down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.


My friend, if I put you in a booming economy, with a source to make money consistently. What the hell, do you call that? An Unlimited Money Generator!

My friend, you having a job in an economy is an UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR. I.E ditec, got a job at mcdonalds, all he has to do is go to work everyday and he gets paid. You do that for free. it is an unlimited money generator, and it cost you your time, which is free. There are many Unlimited Money Generator's you just don't realize it.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IS AN ECONOMY. BECAUSE.......

THE RTP IS 99.9%, THIS MONEY IS NOT LEAVING THE PLAYERS, IT IS GOING BACK TO THE PLAYERS..

You are acting like the money is leaving the game, no the money is still there, you just have to find a way to get it.

Likewise, creating an economy, where users keep investing, because they are getting paid!! MAKING THE ECONOMY EVEN BIGGER!

99.9% RTP, is allowing users to get paid, allowing users to profit. The money is not leaving the system. It is going to different players.

Align yourself, with the rewards of the system, you will get paid consistently.

I tested these theories for months.

There are no shady practices.

UMG, is a way for you to make money.

Whether you do it, gambling, trading, or playing the lottery, or both. Or staking. Or pvping. Whatever you wanna, do just know there is no limitation or rules.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IN SO MANY WAYS.

ONE WAY - THERE IS NO MAX WIN, BECAUSE THE MAX WIN IS DETERMINED, BY HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PUT IN THIS SYSTEM.

HENCE - XINF MAX WIN

THERE IS NO MAX WIN.

THERE ARE NO RULES, BEAT PLAYERS HOW EVER MANY TIMES YOU WANT.

SELL PREDICTIONS TO OTHER USERS.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR.

I should say, your response is a whole lotta car spin and not a lot of real point. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to redefine what an Unlimited Money Generator is. Newsflash: just because you have a job and get paid doesn't mean it's an Unlimited Money Generator. That's just called having a job, dude. And yeah, it costs you your time, but that's not the same as getting free money out of thin air.

And then you start talking about the RTP (return to player) being 99.9%. Okay, let's assume that's true (which I highly doubt). That doesn't mean the money is just circulating back to the players. It means the system is designed to take a cut of the money, and the rest goes back to the players. That's not an Unlimited Money Generator, that's just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna take a commission".

You keep saying that users can make money by investing and getting paid, but that's not how it works. If it were that easy, everyone would be rich by now. You're not creating a sustainable economy, you're creating a Ponzi scheme where early adopters get paid by later adopters.

And what's with the "align yourself with the rewards of the system" thing? That sounds like some kinda cult speak. You're not offering a legitimate way to make money, you're offering a way to get caught up in a scam.

You claim to have tested these theories for months, but where's the proof? Where's the data? You can't just throw out claims like that and expect people to take your word for it.

And let's be real, if Unlimited Money Generators were real, wouldn't governments be all over it? I mean, wouldn't they be promoting it as a way to boost their country's economy? But no, you don't see any government reports or initiatives on Unlimited Money Generators, even when their economy is booming. That's because it's a myth, a scam, a way to take advantage of people's desperation.

Lastly, you're trying to make it sound like UMG is some kinda utopia where people can make money however they want. Newsflash: that's not how the real world works. There are rules and limitations for a reason, and it's to prevent people like you from taking advantage of others.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff and not a lot of substance. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

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Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

I don't even know what to say to a person like you.

Part of me want's to reach through the computer screen and slap you.

Everything just goes in one ear out the other.

And then you will start harassing me on all topics, starting soon.
34  Economy / Reputation / Re: Addressing 'Suchmoon' Allegations, on: June 05, 2024, 07:54:23 PM
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Ditec, nobody can even have a normal conversation , with you your just spamming. I just explained the provably fair on your thread, what the hell are you talking about. Go read, because your not reading, your just ranting. So I am not going to read anything your saying, until you read what I said. You just spamming while I am sleep with a whole bunch of bullshit, bro.

Literally just explained everything on your thread, gotta be joking, kid.

I am not reading anything you are saying bro, I promise you.

GluttonyY, are you kidding me? You're accusing me of spamming and not reading your posts, but it's clear you're just trying to dodge my scam report. I've read every single one of your responses and I'm still not buying what you're selling.

Your "explanations" are just a bunch of vague promises and buzzwords. You're not providing any real evidence or transparency, and it's obvious you're trying to distract from the real issues with UMG.

I'm actually pretty angry that you're falsely accusing me of not reading your posts. I've taken the time to carefully read and respond to each of your points, and it's clear you're not interested in having a real conversation.

UMG is a scam, and I'm not backing down from saying it. Your platform is built on false promises and misleading claims, and you're trying to take advantage of people's trust. Stay away from UMG, folks, and support my flags against UMG owners and promoters!

Who are you to tell anyone what to do. You are just an account with 10 posts, all regarding me on the Bitcoin Talk Forum..

Your posts hold no weight, but I am still hearing you out.

Your just screaming though, your not really providing anything relative.

I mean at the bare minimum, you have not proven your opinion is that of substance.

I have created a crypto currency, exchange, and a gambling platform, that is a competitor to the leading crypto casinos, all in the timespan of 6-8months, I mean bare minimum, my word holds more weight than yours.

Users just wanna see what you say, and how I handle it. And if I am legit/
 
But I will have to show them, if you act like a idiot, there is no hope for you.

Users, just want to see if UMG, is real or not. Once it is confirmed, I mean, you have gambling X10 at your fingertips, Mate.

I am hearing you out, and I was trying to hear you out. But your responses make it hard, 'Hey Gluttony, you are a liar', 'Hey @Gluttony, Your deflecting your lying'

Like mate. Who the hell are you talking to? Cause you aren't talking to me.

Might be the other Gluttony.
35  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 07:42:19 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...
36  Economy / Reputation / Re: Poker Player, loser who only knows 5 words. (SCAM, OMG SCAM, CRUDE, SCAM) on: June 05, 2024, 07:34:26 PM
No holydarkness, the luck system, is real and I created. There is no misinterpretation.

Your luck in my system, is based on the method I have created, affecting your luck and chance of winning.

Mwah.

I have made my own luck based system, allowing you to increase your luck.

And we are increasing our luck, in this luck based system, by using the luck based system, to give us more entries.

The luck based system, also takes entries away from winners, so that losers, have more luck.

My own luck based system.


(GluttonyY)

Vs

(Holydarkness)
37  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 07:30:25 PM
Dude, I'm calling you out on your unprofessional behavior. Instead of addressing the legitimate concerns people have about your website, you're lashing out at other members who are promoting a different casino platform, META WIN. That's not how you build trust or credibility, bro.

You're accusing these members of having an "underlying motive" to bash your platform and promote META WIN, but that's just a weak attempt to deflect criticism. If you're really confident in your platform, you should be able to address the concerns people have raised about it, rather than attacking others.

And what's with the double standard? You're saying that people should keep an open mind and not label a platform as a scam without proper evidence, but that's exactly what you're doing to META WIN and its affiliates. You're accusing them of being biased and trying to promote their own platform, but you're doing the same thing with your own platform.

And let's be real, I think your website is a scam. I think you're trying to take advantage of people's trust and make a quick buck. I think your "Unlimited Money Generator" is just a fancy way of saying "give me your money and I'll promise you the world". I'm not buying it, bro.

In fact, I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think your website is a scam. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.0. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about your platform, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical.

So, instead of attacking other members and trying to deflect criticism, how about you try to address the concerns and prove that your platform is legit? That's what a real professional would do. But until then, I'm gonna keep calling you out on your shady tactics and warning people to stay away from your website.

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In fact, I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think your website is a scam. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.0. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about your platform, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical.
Good, a user finally capable of making an intellectual move, to stop all of this drama.

Well done.

You're congratulating me on making an intellectual move, but you still haven't addressed the concerns I raised about your website in my thread, which is what really matters.

See your running through the messages, late not even knowing, im applauding you for taking this step.

That's why you don't spam me on multiple threads, about what you wanna say, because then your not able to see my responses, and you push forward in virtue of not knowing, i am applauding you for taking this extra step to do your due diligence.

I mean, I am trying to address the claims, you won't give me a chance, you just spamming me bro. I don't understand where I can find an opening to fill you in, if you won't let me.

You want me to tell you, but anytime I tell you some, its always, 'As you can see hes trying to deflect'

When I am giving you my perspective, or opinion.

That shit is uncalled for bro, and I am not dealing with that shit.

I am responding, showing you hey, you can ask questions.

You coming back with 'Nah, you lying, lol thats a scam, ima continue pushing that you a scam, I dont care' 'You deflecting, you a scammer, nahhhh you a scammer'

Like bro, I am not gonna have a conversation with you like that.

Dont ask me questions, if your not gonna have an open mind.

Fix up.

Hey @GluttonyY, your response is mostly off topic. I gave you a chance to address the concerns about UMG, but instead of answering directly, you falsely claimed it's not a scam. Take your time to respond to my statement, I'm not in a hurry. My action is called for because I don't want anyone to get scammed. And btw, saying "I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong. You're the one who needs to fix up, not me.

What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.
38  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unlimited Money Generator (16+)(99.9% RTP)(1.0.3) on: June 05, 2024, 07:25:16 PM
Hey, stumbled upon this Unlimited Money Generator thing and wanted to share some thoughts. While it seems like an interesting all-in-one platform for gambling, trading, and lotteries, there are some shady and red-flag aspects to consider.

The whole 'Provably Fair' system they talk about might not be as fair as it sounds, especially with the idea of manipulating entries to boost your chances of winning. Plus, the part about high order costs potentially messing with how the system works raises some eyebrows.

Honestly, after digging into it, my gut feeling is that this whole setup smells like a scam waiting to happen. Even spending just a dollar on this doesn't seem worth the risk. Seems like a complex setup where you might need to spend big bucks to even have a shot at winning. And the whole spiel about different economies in different worlds sounds like a headache waiting to happen.

Just a heads up to approach with caution when it comes to platforms promising easy money through gaming and trading. Stay safe out there, folks!

This is PvP my friend, everyone can manipulate their entries, for a better chance of winning versus other players. Even the high rollers. That's what makes it so fun, you can use your skill to obtain better profits. Likewise with a more transparent system, if you delve in deeper you will see UMG, is not a red flag at all and actually the opposite.

UMG, shows you how much money is in each world, how much money is available for you as a player, so you can make wiser decisions, on if you should participate.

Likewise, while showing you, how rare a win was.

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Even spending just a dollar on this doesn't seem worth the risk. Seems like a complex setup where you might need to spend big bucks to even have a shot at winning.
Not true at all. There are different types of worlds, for different users.

Some users, want to pay 1$ for the lottery, with high risk high reward.

Some users, will go pay 1$ to play in a lottery with X99 Payouts, meaning, each time the lottery pays, instead of paying one person, it will pay many people.

So you can choose how you want to make money, there are many options. Likewise, you having the freedom to gamble with your own options, no limits.

Furthermore, as far as winning, UMG is the easiest system to not only make money, but a lot of money.

I can 1v1 3 users, for 100$ right now, and possibly streak every time. Or I could lose every time. I could join Tayton's X99 world, and immediately start winning, because the payout rate is X99, instead of the lottery paying one person, it is paying a bunch of us every time.

There are no red flags. The users who play the game, win and lose money. The only difference is, each user knows winning and losing is inevitable with UMG, because it is fair for everyone.

Choose how you want to play. If you don't want high risk, go create a X30 Payout Server. Then it will be moderate risk, moderate reward for everyone.

You can create a world, without a deposit.

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Just a heads up to approach with caution when it comes to platforms promising easy money through gaming and trading. Stay safe out there, folks!
Yes be safe, but UMG, is way easier, and much more profitable than regular gambling.

You have a 99.9% RTP system, where if you 1v1 that is a 50% chance of doubling your money every time.

Likewise, this is just gambling. You can trade on UMG too, while gambling.

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And the whole spiel about different economies in different worlds sounds like a headache waiting to happen.
Wrong, it is just too complex for you to understand.

But gamblers will love this, because they can join different worlds, for different possibilities on chain.

Just to clarify, users win money while playing UMG.

Likewise, there are many options, so you can choose how you want to play.

If you want an easier chance of making money, just join a low risk, low reward world, like the X99 worlds, that pay much more people, but not as much money.

If you want a harder chance of making money with more rewards, join the X1 payout worlds, the lottery worlds.

If you want a moderate chance in making money join Taytons Gambling and Lottery World X10 Payouts

But in no point, is it hard to win, false. The system is designed for you to win, because you are playing against other players, and not affecting the house's money.

Likewise, in the provably fair system, if someone was to manipulate their entries, you would see. If someone manipulates their luck, affecting you, the system will let you know.

I.e Charles used force luck, for 50* 100$

Now you know this user forced his luck

Once they force their luck, this money they used to try and beat you will be dispersed to all the players in the world randomly.

If there is foul play occurring you will know within seconds.

This is the advantage of a pvp system.





Hey GluttonyY,

I've gotta say, your response is pretty weak. You're trying to defend the Unlimited Money Generator platform, but it's just not convincing. I've already called out the red flags in my report on Bitcointalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097), and I'm not buying what you're selling.

The whole "Provably Fair" system thing is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors. And don't even get me started on the crazy 99.9% RTP rate - that's just not how it works.

You're trying to spin this as some kind of PvP system where users can use their skills to win, but let's be real, it's just a way for the platform to make money off users. And I'm not having it.

I've already flagged the UMG owners and promoters, and I'm asking the community to support me.

Bro stop copy and pasting your messages, and leaving it everywhere, just put in one thread, your confusing everyone, you just saying a bunch of random shit everywhere dude.

Smoke and mirrors, where have you even tested the system? Dude? What are you talking about, 99.9% RTP, rate, That is exactly how it works.

You are inexperienced, so, step back. Educate yourself, then come back, and we can have a more logical conversation, thank you.
39  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 07:16:54 PM
Dude, I'm calling you out on your unprofessional behavior. Instead of addressing the legitimate concerns people have about your website, you're lashing out at other members who are promoting a different casino platform, META WIN. That's not how you build trust or credibility, bro.

You're accusing these members of having an "underlying motive" to bash your platform and promote META WIN, but that's just a weak attempt to deflect criticism. If you're really confident in your platform, you should be able to address the concerns people have raised about it, rather than attacking others.

And what's with the double standard? You're saying that people should keep an open mind and not label a platform as a scam without proper evidence, but that's exactly what you're doing to META WIN and its affiliates. You're accusing them of being biased and trying to promote their own platform, but you're doing the same thing with your own platform.

And let's be real, I think your website is a scam. I think you're trying to take advantage of people's trust and make a quick buck. I think your "Unlimited Money Generator" is just a fancy way of saying "give me your money and I'll promise you the world". I'm not buying it, bro.

In fact, I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think your website is a scam. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.0. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about your platform, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical.

So, instead of attacking other members and trying to deflect criticism, how about you try to address the concerns and prove that your platform is legit? That's what a real professional would do. But until then, I'm gonna keep calling you out on your shady tactics and warning people to stay away from your website.

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In fact, I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think your website is a scam. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.0. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about your platform, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical.
Good, a user finally capable of making an intellectual move, to stop all of this drama.

Well done.

You're congratulating me on making an intellectual move, but you still haven't addressed the concerns I raised about your website in my thread, which is what really matters.

See your running through the messages, late not even knowing, im applauding you for taking this step.

That's why you don't spam me on multiple threads, about what you wanna say, because then your not able to see my responses, and you push forward in virtue of not knowing, i am applauding you for taking this extra step to do your due diligence.

I mean, I am trying to address the claims, you won't give me a chance, you just spamming me bro. I don't understand where I can find an opening to fill you in, if you won't let me.

You want me to tell you, but anytime I tell you some, its always, 'As you can see hes trying to deflect'

When I am giving you my perspective, or opinion.

That shit is uncalled for bro, and I am not dealing with that shit.

I am responding, showing you hey, you can ask questions.

You coming back with 'Nah, you lying, lol thats a scam, ima continue pushing that you a scam, I dont care' 'You deflecting, you a scammer, nahhhh you a scammer'

Like bro, I am not gonna have a conversation with you like that.

Dont ask me questions, if your not gonna have an open mind.

Fix up.
40  Economy / Reputation / Re: Poker Player, loser who only knows 5 words. (SCAM, OMG SCAM, CRUDE, SCAM) on: June 05, 2024, 06:58:20 PM
That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.

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That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.
Yes but that's what I meant you misinterpreted.

To misinterpret something is to build a wrong understanding from what is said or done

When the source of what's said or done itself is re-written to completely convey a different meaning, that's not misinterpret, that's called being the victim of someone who misled through edited statement.

Here's the two text:

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience lol.

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.

Tell me that you can confidently say they conveyed the same meaning?

Learn to own your mistake instead of assigning blame.

It was an accident Holydarkness, please forgive me!

But I messed up. And you misinterpreted.
 
We both gotta own up, because you keep calling me wrong, for inventing a gambling luck based system, when nobody ever did this before, bro.

So we both gotta start, owning up to when we wrong. Because nobody is right all the time.

And what the fuck is this guy ^ up here talking about, shut the fuck up and go 1v1 somebody already, stop bothering me with that shit.
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