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Just checked your site out and the UI leaves a lot to be desired op because it makes it seems like your team didn't put in much effort and designed everything within a couple of hours.
Also, the games themselves don't have an easy learning curve which would scare away many gamblers. Just my 2 cents!
Hi, thank you very much for the interest in our casino! Maybe scratchcard is not the right game for you! We did just now implemented Hi-Lo game. Came trying it out at getsats.club! |
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Guys, I get a lot of questions about what you can do and what you can't do in our casino.
Think about our casino in this way: if we don't negate the possibility to do something EXPLICITELY, then it's allowed.
For example, I never mentioned that there is a deposit/withdraw limit, and in the website you can't find this information. This, by default, means that you can deposit/withdraw how much you want.
Another example, geo-blocking users based on IP (or VPN users). We never mentioned that you can be geo-blocked. This means that every person can play in our casino.
We think that all of this questions came from the bad experiences you had in others casino, when it's the normality to block people, to make restrictions on withdraw and so on. But our casino is different, it doesn't have all the complexity of others one. This is one of the main feature that motivated us to develop our casino. Because we saw that others casino are scamming people with stupid rules difficult to comprhend.
Good to hear about these two points and your view in these. There are many casinos (not all) who use these points and protect their business when it's in risk. Anyway, it seems in my case the "demo" as recovery key/password is already in use.  Does it mean until whoever the person is, does not log out, no one else is going to login? Hi, thank you very much for trying our casino! As you can see from the picture you sent, you are already logged as the demo user. Under the "Password" field you find the value "demo", so you can start trying the game! The error is probably displayed because you clicked on the "Restore" button more than one times, and it's saying that you are already logged as the demo account. Multiple person can use the demo account at the same time with no problem, of course. So you can just ignore the error you got and start playing! |
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Satoshi, Halving and #FreeRoss are three different scratch cards with different payout, but they share the same logic.
If you buy #FreeRoss (12000 sats) you can win up to 480.000 sats, if you buy Halving (10000 sats) you can win up to 400.000 sats and if you buy Satoshi (6000 sats) you can win up to 240.000 sats. That's because of the different amount you bet. We are trying to emulate the real life scratch card game. You can buy scratch cards of different cost but the game logic is always the same, the only thing that is changing is the background. At the moment all the games have no sound, but we will implement it in the future.
Thank you for explaining nice everything. I think it is important to add sound effects for games and make some improvements because scratching will look more realistic. Another suggestion for you is to think about creating campaign in bitcointalk forum, members could review and add suggestions for getsats website, and you can promote with signature campaign if you want. Thank you very much for the suggestions! We are already working to improve our casino, thanks to all of the comments from the users. We will make a major release where we will improve what we have and we will implement other games, then we will think about a campaign! |
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Guys, I get a lot of questions about what you can do and what you can't do in our casino.
Think about our casino in this way: if we don't negate the possibility to do something EXPLICITELY, then it's allowed.
For example, I never mentioned that there is a deposit/withdraw limit, and in the website you can't find this information. This, by default, means that you can deposit/withdraw how much you want.
Another example, geo-blocking users based on IP (or VPN users). We never mentioned that you can be geo-blocked. This means that every person can play in our casino.
We think that all of this questions came from the bad experiences you had in others casino, when it's the normality to block people, to make restrictions on withdraw and so on. But our casino is different, it doesn't have all the complexity of others one. This is one of the main feature that motivated us to develop our casino. Because we saw that others casino are scamming people with stupid rules difficult to comprhend.
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The minimum amount of coins needed are the one of our cheaper game, FiatStandard (it's a coinflip game).
But I was asking how many sats is the minimum to deposit? For example can I deposit 10 sats? now a demo version of our games are available on our website!
Just use 'demo' as recovery key/password on the 'Deposit' button!
Thanks for this. I tested all games with demo account and I dont see any major diffeerence between Satoshi, Halving and #FreeRoss games, only FiatStandard game looks differently. There was no sound on all games I played, and I dont know if that is by design or some bug. There are no minimum amount to deposit/withdraw. You can deposit even 10 sats, even though you will not be able to play anything at the moment. Satoshi, Halving and #FreeRoss are three different scratch cards with different payout, but they share the same logic. If you buy #FreeRoss (12000 sats) you can win up to 480.000 sats, if you buy Halving (10000 sats) you can win up to 400.000 sats and if you buy Satoshi (6000 sats) you can win up to 240.000 sats. That's because of the different amount you bet. We are trying to emulate the real life scratch card game. You can buy scratch cards of different cost but the game logic is always the same, the only thing that is changing is the background. At the moment all the games have no sound, but we will implement it in the future. |
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Welcome to the forum op, The only thing I don't understand is: is it necessary to deposit immediately to avail of the game you are sharing here? This game is a bit unclear to me, to be honest. The games are a bit different because of the platform.
It should just imitate the other games that are available in other casinos that have been in the field of cryptocurrency for a long time, like the slot games, crash games, baccarat, and other games that are often visited by gamblers.
Hi, thank you very much for the interest in our casino! You need to deposit first to play our games, otherwise you can try the demo writing "demo" as recovery key/password in the Deposit pop-up. The game now available are coinflip and scratch card games (with different payout). We will surely implement other games in the future, like the ones you said. Thank you very much for the suggestion! |
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When I press the 'deposit' button, it keeps showing 'error creating invoice'. Is it because I am using a VPN or something like that? And maybe you should create a fun version for free play to teach people how to play first.
Hi, thank you very much for trying our casino! To deposit, you have to first select the amount you want to deposit in the input field (at the left of the "Deposit" button). You get "error creating invoice" if you are trying to deposit an invalid value, like 0 or negative amounts. You have to insert the number of sats you would like to deposit. Than you receive an invoice you can pay with your lightning wallet. You can use a VPN to connect, we have no problem at all. We now have a demo version of the game, you have to just digit "demo" in the recovery key/password field. Soon there will be also a tutorial page to understand how to play. |
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Hi,
now a demo version of our games are available on our website!
Just use 'demo' as recovery key/password on the 'Deposit' button!
Thanks for the quick update. I've tried all the games, didn't expect all of them are same, but with a different payout mechanism. I hate to say this, but it's not fun at the moment, but who knows after many improvement it can attract many people. Of course I know to start a casino from scratch isn't easy as renting the games from gambling providers. According to me the ANN thread lacks some major informations like VPN allowed if my country is not allowed.
If they want to have an onion address, I don't think VPN or restricted jurisdictions would matter. Hi, thank you very much for trying our website. Maybe scratch card games do not fit very well for your preferencies. Would you like to suggest us some games you would like to see on our website? |
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Welcome to the forum mate. The game’s concept seems very interesting. Yes we forum members love P2P games, so definitely many will surely try the game and the site. According to me the ANN thread lacks some major informations like VPN allowed if my country is not allowed. Also what’s the major currencies we can use in the site? Moreover also add images and graphics to make the ANN thread more interesting.
Hi, thank you very much for the feedback. We are glad you like our casino. We do not have restrictions based on IP, we do even have an onion service for people you are willing to play under the Tor network. VPN are not a problem at all. Regarding the currencies allowed, we now accepts bitcoin under the form of Lightning Network (LN) payments. The casino is thinked to play directly with satoshis, and not fiat currencies. We may think to add onchain payments if people are requesting it, but seen the fees we need to pay nowadays and the little importing of our transactions, we think that lightning network fit more for our casino. I will try to update the ANN thread to make it more interesting, thank you. |
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Hi,
now a demo version of our games are available on our website!
Just use 'demo' as recovery key/password on the 'Deposit' button!
The demo version is now available, but how do we play your games? There are no mechanics or tutorials on how to play and what the payout is. The first time I visited the website, there was a prompt saying "Win up to 480,000 sats! Remember to enable canvas setting on your browser to play! GetSats Staff." What does that mean? Honestly, it is exactly the same thing for me, I see this as one the most confusing casino and game I've ever come across. I've actually followed the process provided by the op which you quoted, and tried playing some of the game, one I actually played just said to scratch a red covered image, I did scratch and got a notification that I won 3000 satoshi, it popped up some cards, I selected one and scratched again, and was told I won another 3000 satoshi. The thing, I don't even understand anything I am doing  , I haven't actually seen or played this type of games on any casino before, so, op really need to come up with the game tutorials, guidelines, the mechanics and so on, else, this will just be one of the most boring and confusing casino games ever. And besides, I feel op was too in a haste to launch this casino, there are possibly still alot of work needed to be done on the casino before it's made public, but all the same, let first see what op does with what we have asked for, which the game tutorials and mechanics. Hi, thank you very much for trying our casino! We are ALREADY working to make a game tutorial and to explain the mechanics of it. The games you were playing are called "scratch cards". You simply scratch and you see the images/numbers below. They could or could not correspond to a win. For example, on the coinflip game you played (FiatStandard), you win: - 0 sats if you get two dollars images below - 3000 sats if you get an image of bitcoin and an image of a dollar below - 6000 sats if you get two bitcoin images below You will receive a popup after you will have completed the scratch, saying the result of your bet. We will probably make an update to make you scratch more before you see the result, or we might make a delay between the scratch and the popup page. Regarding the fact that there a lot of work still to do, you are right. But we needed a feedback from our community before continuing the developing. And we will update things fast. |
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The demo version is now available, but how do we play your games? There are no mechanics or tutorials on how to play and what the payout is. The first time I visited the website, there was a prompt saying "Win up to 480,000 sats! Remember to enable canvas setting on your browser to play! GetSats Staff."
What does that mean?
I just visited the site and had the same doubts. Let's see if the OP clarifies it for us, because I don't remember having any message about the canvas in any of the crypto sites I have visited. On the other hand, I think it's a good thing that more games are being implemented, because only 4 seem too few for the great variety of games that you can see in other casinos that are advertised here. Hi, I have just explained what are this canvas settings in response to the original request. You will be asked to enable that only if you are connecting under Tor Browser. Regarding the variety of games, yes it's true we do only have scratch card games in the moment, but we are working to implement many others. You can even suggest us what games you would like to see on the platform! Since we are a different casino from all of the others you can find online, we think that our value should not be given only by the games we have (but we will implement many others games), but even by the fact that we are full no KYC (we don't scam people asking for KYC during the withdrawal phase), we do not require to register on our website to play first, we do not ban people because they violated a "TOS", and we are making available an onion service for people who wants to be fully anonimous. If you care about your freedom and your privacy, which I think it should be the reason why people wants a bitcoin casino, you should choose us. |
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Hi,
now a demo version of our games are available on our website!
Just use 'demo' as recovery key/password on the 'Deposit' button!
The demo version is now available, but how do we play your games? There are no mechanics or tutorials on how to play and what the payout is. The first time I visited the website, there was a prompt saying "Win up to 480,000 sats! Remember to enable canvas setting on your browser to play! GetSats Staff." What does that mean? Hi, we will try to make more clear what the games are (and the demo was serving as a demostration for them), and to state how much you can win for every game. In the main time, I will state here the payouts: FiatStandard: it's a CoinFlip game. You have to bet 3000 sats and you can win 0, 3000 or 6000 (double the bet). You scratch the card and if the gif/images below are two dollars, you win 0 sats, if they are a dollar and a bitcoin, you win 3000 sats, if they are two bitcoin you win 6000 sats. Satoshi, Halving and #FreeRoss: they are all three scratch card games with 15 numbers and different payouts. They max payout cost of the ticket * 40. So: - Satoshi payout 6000 * 40 = 240.000 sats max win - Halving payout 10000 * 40 = 400.000 sats max win - #FreeRoss payout 12000 * 40 = 480.000 sats max win You probably have to enable canvas setting only if you are using Tor Browser to connect to our website. Since canvas can be used for tracking users (but we do not do that, we use canvas to allow you to scratch cards) Tor Browser is blocking this settings by default. When you buy a card, near the lock of https you will be presented with an icon of an image. If you click on that, you will be asked to enable canvas the make the website work. You have to enable that and than you can scratch the card the reveal the result of your bet. There are probably no need to do that if you are using others browsers. |
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Welcome to bitcointalk platform mate. Since you have said this "More games coming soon..." I will presume the website is still on development phase but can be used for service because I perused the website for myself to see how your service looks like because the nature of this service as you have mentioned here looks quite different from other casinos I have encountered on this platform. Possibly this might be a new pattern though and I commend your efforts for this.
I see that you are trying to do away with most of what other casinos does by demanding for too much details which is in accordance with government policies of the various places they operate from making them centralized casinos out there.
I have read your replies to questions pertaining to your terms and conditions of service which you have not. Do you not think the FAQ and TOS would give and guide prospective visitors to your website on how to use your casino? Your TOS could help if stated could help visitors to your website know and have clues about your website and how to navigate through.
It would be nice you include the above listed features wether you are a centralized or decentralized casino. It would be good visitors have clue about your casino and what it stands for so as to guide them through their visit to your website.
Hi, thank you very much for the interest! We will soon make a tutorial page to understand how the casino works, and we will write a TOS and FAQ that will state explicitely that we do not have particular restrictions. We allow users from all over the world to play and we do not have a ban policy, because we are not allowing users to make something we don't want in the first place. And as you can see, there are no registration, just a recovery key/password to save your session (and balance). So we can't really ban nobody, since they could make another session. Thank you very much for all of the efforts you took to write to us, we will improve ourself through your words. |
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Do you have enough sats for the incoming HALVING? Scratch and GET SATS  on getsats.club! Lightning BTC and onion (optimized) ready. Welcome to bitcointalk forum! What is the minimum amount of coins need for playing on GetSats? Can we first test the games for free before sending any deposits sats for real play? I dont know what type of games you have and I dont want to waste money on something I dont like. Hi, now a demo version of our games are available on our website! Just use 'demo' as recovery key/password on the 'Deposit' button! |
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Welcome to the forum.
Your casino is interesting because it's P2P and want to create the onion version, but I don't understand what's the difference between each game because you didn't upload the video about your games or offering demo account to try the game.
I don't see there's free bet, so how to claim it?
Hi, now a demo version of our games are available on our website! Just use 'demo' as recovery key/password on the 'Deposit' button! |
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Also, overall, what's your experience with BTC Lightning as a payment method in betting sites? Would you recommend it?
Lightning payments is very good option when bitcoin fees are high and when someone is betting with small amounts of money, and I would recommend it in this situations. Maybe you can add new casino website I saw today in forum Getsats.club. This is their forum topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489513.0I know another gambling website from forum that is working on adding Lightning payments: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457016.0Hi, thank you very much for the quote! Yes we are a new lightning network casino (and we have a working onion service). We are working to make more games as possible and to bring into lightning network the best experience possibile. For any suggestion or curiosity, we are waiting you into our thread! |
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welcome to the forum, your casino only has 5 games and they are games that are not very popular, maybe I'm wrong because I'm not a person who plays games of chance that depends on luck, but from what I've seen I'll always do my own sports betting and that people who play in casinos have certain gambling preferences, games like Gates of Olympus, Bonanza and other games like Plinko and others, I forget their names, have been games that people like the most. and when you create a casino with just 5 new games, did you do some research beforehand to find out if people will like those 5 games of yours?
This gambling market is a very competitive and saturated market, so providing good games is very important for any casino, which is why many casinos choose to add a lot of good games because that way people will have many game options and in a single casino, so people will not need to go to other casinos. Another point has to do with deposit and withdrawal options. People like to have many deposit and withdrawal options, if the casino limits itself to having few deposit and withdrawal options, then the casino will lose customers. The other point is the issue of licensing, although having a license does not guarantee the reliability of a casino, a casino still needs to have a license to comply with government laws.
In your casino I didn't see a license, I assume that in your casino there is no license, in your casino there is no TOS and there is no FAQ, this will only raise more questions than answers in people's heads. I sincerely wish you luck with your project, but without a license, without many games, without many deposit and withdrawal options and without FAQ and TOS and if you don't have an aggressive marketing campaign, then the chances of success will be very low. Lastly your ann thread is very simple, people may not care about your casino they just owe the ann of your thread
Hi, thank you very much for the interest. We are bitcoiners, we are not interested in govt laws. We are not even interested in fournishing deposit and withdrawal options with shitcoins - we think that bitcoin should be the only money people should ever use. You are alright, we do not have a TOS and FAQ, because we don't have rules: people are allowed to do everything they can do in our website. We have no ban policy, because we don't ban (and we can't, since there is no registration). We now have few games because we have recently standard and we still have a lot of work to do. We just launched. We think that the value of our casino should not be defined only by the parameters you said, but even because we are full no KYC (unlike most of "crypto" casino, that requires KYC only for withdrawals) and we are not scamming people stoling their money saying they violeted a "TOS". |
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Do you have enough sats for the incoming HALVING? Scratch and GET SATS on getsats.club! Lightning BTC and onion (optimized) ready. Welcome to bitcointalk forum! What is the minimum amount of coins need for playing on GetSats? Can we first test the games for free before sending any deposits sats for real play? I dont know what type of games you have and I dont want to waste money on something I dont like. Hi, thank you, it's an honour to be here at bitcointalk. Thank you very much for the interest in our casino! The minimum amount of coins needed are the one of our cheaper game, FiatStandard (it's a coinflip game). There are no deposits and withdrawal limit, you can get back your sats when you prefer without any need for KYC or hidden rules. We now do have scratch card games, and we will implement more games in the future! You can even suggest us what are the games that you would like to have available. Very soon the site will be provided with a "demo" recovery key where you will be able to play all of our games without paying them first. |
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This is why it would really be that important that you should really be reading up those terms and conditions and as much as possible you would really be able to copy it or
screenshot on which if there are some possible alterations then you could somewhat have a fight on this case.
The right solution, we must have evidence for screenshots of all the terms and conditions on the casino site, another alternative solution we can index all responses on the web archive then the evidence can be considered concrete compared to screenshots, we must save all the stacks of text to prove that we have read the terms and conditions so that the casino cannot defend itself for a lie to the users, unless the casino announces an update to make new rules that require KYC then they can avoid all the demands of being accused of being a scam casino. Yeah! Evidence seem to be the key as we know there only to tackle any matter arising, which is Evidence ( all T&C should be screen shot and kept). if a casino includes KYC is optional and they require it for your funds withdrawal then they are obviously a scam and the only way to tackle them is the way you listed above as they could be cunning sometimes towards updating their previous texts and if there's no evidence , all hope might seem to be lost In the situation when they are referring to kyc as optional, then what they mostly mean is that they can allow you to register and gamble even without completing for the kyc request, but that doesn't mean they may not later make demands on that, but the most annoying is that we often get annoyed seeing this because we are at the point of making withdrawals before receiving the notification that we need to complete our kyc, so what i would have suggest to some of these gambling site is to ensure that they don't only request for kyc at the point of making withdrawal, they can demand for such even when the user is not requesting for withdrawals after his registration. The thing actually is, for some casinos, they usually allow the user register, make a deposit and play on the casino, possibly making a few winnings and withdrawals as well, this probably is to allow the player test the casino out and get acquainted with the operations of the casino, but like you said, a time always comes when the casino will ask the user to verify his or her account, mostly when the user is requesting a withdrawal, and why casinos do this is very understandable because this is the only time that player may comply with the request, the player has already requested a withdrawal which is pending, and for the withdrawal to be processed, he or she needs to submit his or her documents for account verification, the player is likely to submit the document immediately in order to have their withdrawal processed. But if and when the casino randomly asked the player to submit kyc documents for account verification when the player doesn't have any pending withdrawals, the user may ignore it and possibly look for ways to get his money out of that casino and move to another, and worst is if and when the player actually does not have any money on his account, he or she may likely move to another casino where they may possibly not ask him or her to verify his or her account immediately. This I believe is the reason why most casino will wait until a player is at the point where they need their withdrawal request to be processed, before the casino askes them for documents for account verification, for the casino knows what this is the best time any player can comply to their kyc demands, requesting for this any other time, the casino might just push the player away to another casino. This is the reason why we decided to open a lightning network NO-KYC casino. Because we saw that most of the online casinos that accepts bitcoin (and "crypto") are most likely scam, asking users to make KYC blocking their funds or banning funds of users because of some "internal policy". Plus, they are asking emails to register, and they are blocking Tor users instead of creating a Tor onion service (and if Tor ain't blocked, the website will problably not load correctly). There are some good lightning network casino that are KYC free, but they are not well developed and they don't allow you to bet a lot of money (most likely because they are small projects and don't aims big). We are trying to make a good lightning network casino with a lot of games and without stupid rules. |
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First of all, welcome to the forum.
I just visited the casino, pretty new but still as confusing as hell to me, I clicked the deposit button and got a recovery key which I was asked to keep safe, is this a decentralized casino?
If yes, where does it run? It is on bitcoin L2 blockchain or something? Sorry for the noob question though, I am really not a technical guy but still love to understand some technical stuff when I come around them, most especially things I feel I might be interested in using or trying out some time or day, I like to understand how they work so don't get into any kind of avoidable troubles.
And again, how does the deposit system work? In the deposit page, I entered the amount of Satoshi I want to deposit, and hit the "deposit" button, but got "error creating invoice" as a reply.
@op, would be nice if you can create a comprehensive document on how the casino works, and it's mode of operation.
Hi, thank you for the interest! This is a casino that process payments through the Bitcoin Lightning Network (LN). Lightning network is a Bitcoin layer2. This layer allow people to process bitcoin payments with very small fees and in just some seconds (it's really fast!). To try lightning network you can use a mobile wallet, like Phoenix (non-custodial) or Wallet of Satoshi (full-custodial). To deposit funds, you have to insert the sats value you would like to Deposit and click the "Deposit" button. You will get a LN invoice that you can pay with your lightning network wallet in some seconds. You will get an "Error: error creating invoice" if you try to create an invoice of 0 sats or with negative amounts. But don't worry! Just insert the amount and try again, you will get a invoice in some seconds. There is no need for KYC (Know your customer), meaning we don't ask you any ID to deposit and withdraw. You need to keep safe your recovery key because it's the only method you have to recover your session and your balance in our website. You don't need to register with personal data and email, the recovery do everything for you. We just run the website in a VPS, that's it. |
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