Due to the higher rates of bitcoins all the signature campaign have reduced their pay rates so even if you are a high rank holder you will never be in position to earn that high amount from signature campaign but whatever you get from signature campaign should be saved as it can be your capital for future that you can use in trading as if you want to earn good amount of bitcoins in quick time then trading is the only way to get there.

If we compare trading and gambling then I think trading is far better choice in compare to gambling to make money at regular intervals as it is not only dependent only on luck like gambling and if you have good skills and strategy then it will bring good amount of money for you on regular basis so if I have to invest my money then I will surely prefer to invest in multiple altcoins with good reputation.

I'm working through a large number of emails and PMs, please be patient. There have been problems doing much of anything on btct.co. Most transfer attempts or dividend payouts result in bitcoind backend failure messages.

That doesn't dictate any date certain for IPO closure. 53 days after listing there are only 2312 shares outstanding. At this rate the IPO could be moved to another exchange and continue for months...or years.

This is what was in the original contract:

THERE IS NO CLOSURE DATE

You deleted the closure date by shareholder vote. When I warned you before hand you called it FUD.

FTFY

Don't really care what he's thinking in his knc rainbow addled brain. I've had an order in with Dave Carlson's outfit(bitfury US) since 8/8. I followed their guidelines for requesting manual cc payment processing and have yet to be contacted to pay for my order. They've had problems getting banks to help them.

This isn't labcoin, BTCGarden, PETA-MINE, ActM or countess other money grabs. bASIC-Mining has only ever taken in a total of 1872.7165 on the sale of 4000 shares while paying out 682.6940 in dividends, and 1584.5395 to purchase hardware and investments.

This means we've already paid out 394.5170 more than we've ever taken in from investors and we still have 762.9402 in liquid assets belonging to shareholders as well as 2.235Th of mining gear also belonging to shareholders. This value has been created through responsible management.

I donated the original ASIC pre-order that this company was founded upon. I find it offensive that you'd even make such a comment even if in tiny text.

I don't think there's a misunderstanding at all. Determining whether and where to move is an important decision. I'm weighing the options and don't see bitfunder as viable for the reasons I've already stated. I've met my responsibilities to shareholders today by scheduling dividends to be paid at precisely the time of day in which they were scheduled last week before this disaster began.

I'm off the clock now.

GASP! ...but that would mean...they lied?!?

I do not trust Ukyo more than I trust me. No offense.

Not really the point. Trust is all that matters in this space. If an asset issuer is trustworthy then it doesn't matter which boxes are checked. They'll adhere to their own contract anyway. The issue for me is that it's even an option. If btct.co did blow up because of the labcoin and btcgarden fiascoes then what will stop bitfunder from doing the same? Particularly given that some asset issuers listed there will not only choose to make their contracts unilaterally fungible but can and have unilaterally altered those contracts after selling shares.

I think we finally agree on something iceman. Worse that chart shows November pricing for knc. The deliveries currently being prepared are to customers that paid moar.

Of course, but just as you mentioned above that risk only makes sense if you have a reasonable certainty that you'll be compensated for solo mining. The only way to reach that reasonable certainty is to have a decent portion of the global hashrate. Then even if you do, you still need luck. To say that luck is not a factor is silly.

This is common knowledge and my primary reason for never having registered for an account on bf. To me this says "this exchange is not to be taken seriously"

Think it was a typo. I believe he meant "Wait... Wasn't Labcoin a con?"

Assuming for a moment that's correct, how can you possibly feel comfortable having a position in icedrill with ActM and numerous other questionable assets listed on bitfunder? Asset issuers on bitfunder can unilaterally alter their own contracts. How long do you suppose before there's a huge blow up there?

There are a lot of problems with cyphershill's recent posts. That's why he ignored any of the valid questions and instead called everyone idiots and posted something that had nothing to do with anything. If you solo rather than pool mine for the next 10.5 days and find nothing then you were very plainly better off mining in a pool while difficulty was lower. This is not a complicated concept to grasp.

cyphershill ignored.

The issuer has been at personal risk all along, as has the operator of the exchange the issuer chose. While we don't know exactly what happened to cause burnside to shut down, we do know that he holds the vast majority of shares of global and we know he did not sell at the top. Those shares have fallen by 96%. This is not a GLBSE shutdown with the exchange operator absconding with everyone's coins. It appears that he's being screwed harder than anyone with this shutdown.

Stopping people from exercising their right to buy or sell isn't appropriate.

I'm sorry btct.co hurt your feelings. I'm also not happy about any of this, but I'm trying to make decisions based on information not emotion.
 

Holy sh1t man, aren't you the same stupid shill that attacked cyphershill for abusing cc chargebacks? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270363.0 Did someone hack your shill account? This abuse goes on constantly. Search bfl threads for people placing orders using pp that they're 99% certain won't be delivered within the 45 day window. They just treat it like a call option, chargeback, and re-up after 40 days. Is it any wonder at all that new BTC OEMs are having difficulty getting pp merchant accounts with people pulling this crap? Just because your precious knc was able to get a cc underwriter doesn't make everything sunshine and rainbows for everyone else trying to do the same anywhere on the globe. How many serious vendors do you think there are in Sweden anyway?

So someone resells a pre-order for barntech's diy board based on bitfury chips and you equate that to a "Bitfury distributors accept card payments"?!? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266235.0

Get a clue. You don't even know what you're blathering about.

Ignored.