I am happy to announce the release of the new version of ANCi2pd ! ANCI2Pd 1.0.13.0 - Anoncoin & I2Pd bundle - 13 june 2017The first stand-alone cryptocurrency and C++ I2Pd router bundle! Featuring the latest version of Anoncoin 0.9.6.13 & i2pd 2.14.0  Windows version (32 bits) only: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/1.0.13.0CS Posted at the front page of the new thread. |
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CS - I was actually thinking that you should keep the Anoncoins (as our accountant, lol) maybe in a separate wallet and then send them to donors when they provide a valid ANC address. In terms of the amount, it is a tough one but I was thinking like ysell suggested set amounts. For example x for a specific donation and y for a higher donation. The ANC's are as a thank you and not a reflection of what the donors are giving vs current value. Our initial target is $20k, but I think we should target a bit more and if we don't reach it, we will get what was raised regardless.
ANC is worth around $0.80. For example, 1 Anoncoin per $10 donation, 3 for $20, 8 for $50 and 20 for $100. We will need around 3000-4000 ANC's = $20k - $30k. After Zerocoin is integrated, I am sure ANC will be worth more than $10.
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That is a good idea, but I do not know about crowdfunding and how the donors can prove they are the ones that crowdfunded such amount etc... well let us think about it and we will see soon. Thanks CS |
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I am happy to announce the release of the new version of ANCi2pd ! ANCI2Pd 1.0.13.0 - Anoncoin & I2Pd bundle - 13 june 2017The first stand-alone cryptocurrency and C++ I2Pd router bundle! Featuring the latest version of Anoncoin 0.9.6.13 & i2pd 2.14.0 Windows version (32 bits) only: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/releases/tag/1.0.13.0CS |
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Hi all - This is just an update on the on the crowdfunding. I have been really busy lately with work but in a couple of weeks I will have more time to work on the proposal. At some point in the next month we will need to have enough ANC's to give donors as a thank you. Can people register here their willingness to donate ANC for that purpose. Thank you.
Sure I will personally provide 500 anc if there is a way to be sure the ANC are given to the donors. Hence, I am wondering what is your idea to match donors with donations? CS |
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Edit:
ok now it gets more confusing i cant use the coins because the error message says they might already spend in another wallet.
But why are they still in that wallet and dont vanish?
how can i fix that copy wallet to get up to date?
(assuming i dont have the original anymore due hardware crash)
i posted a line which you have to add to see the real balance. if you use a current master build (you arent!) then this wouldnt be a issue aswell. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg19140280#msg19140280after it, you have to run once with -zapwallettxes Yes, the windows wallet are build but not on github and I have not access to my build computer right now. The new anci2pd is build too, but all those builds will be published for windows next week. Linux user can build 9.6.13 from master already. |
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Hey guys,
Is our i2p chatroom still active? Any news on meeh?
Hi Geekz! Yes #anoncoin #anoncoin-dev #anci2pd on IRC2P are all active (but as you know sometimes you need to stay connected several hours to get the answer), we check from time to time unless we are presently chatting. CS |
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Ysell - I agree with you in relation to the community sharing some of the jobs to publicise Anoncoin. I wouldn't mind helping you with forums, twitter, facebook, etc.
X68N - I sent the coins I bought today to my wallet. I only trade other coins and mine Zcash and ETC. Anoncoin for me is hopefully a long-term bet that will pay off. It has all the attributes to succeed. It just needs more developers 100% committed to help Cryptoslave.
Cryptoslave - Do you think crowd-funding could be the solution to get the resources you need to keep this project going?
Yes, definitelly! But what incentive to use for people to crowdfund do you think? |
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Ysell - I will read the Zerocoin info you suggested. If I get my coins back, I have no intention of selling them. I think we (as a community) can still get this project on the road. I was wondering if we should all contact Cryptoslave and offer our help and individual skills to save the project. I understand that the main skills they need at the moment are people that can code? Unfortunately, that is a skills I don't have. However, I can offer other skills like maintaining the twitter/facebook account, research, writing articles, etc.
I think at this early stage anything anyone can do will help. I, like many others on here will offer support if I can. I can juggle the forum when I'm out and about working. I can't login via i2p when I'm out and update the community on latest development chats . I think being able to update the community outside of i2p would be great. It would be incredible if Anoncoin community were to vote on certain jobs, paying with Anoncoin for completion, for example "Zerocoin implementation". Yes, I agree everybody is welcome to join for contribution! Anoncoin is an open source project and we are very happy to have more people involved! |
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Hi, Just to remember you: Anoncoin 0.9.6.13 is a fork of bitcoin 0.10.99 so there is included lots of improvement in particular header first synchronisation. - Many excellent improvements such as for instance header-first synchronisation, leading to much quicker I2P synchronisation and block download
This is much quicker to synchronize, especially over I2P, but this is done by first downloading headers from 2 peers and THEN blocks from all peers 8+ Synching online, the block number bar will not increase before all headers are downloaded, so this is normal behaviour. When synching from bootstrap however, the block number bar will increase because both header and block are synched in parallel from the bootstrap. AnonCoin blockchain, freshly synced, is available for download at CryptoChainer.com. This snapshot is from the new wallet. This is a very old coin, and takes nearly forever to sync from scratch. It may have been the case the blockchain was slow to synch on 0.8.5.6, but with this new client 0.9.6.11 featuring Headers-first synchronisation it is much more quick!  Here is a test I did today: 21h50: start a freshly installed Anoncoin 0.9.6.11 64 bit with no blockchain and no bootstrap.dat, on a win7 laptop 21h50-23h30: Synchronisation of the block-headers takes 1h40 (see the first part of the graph, with smallest bandwidth). It may seems the client is doing nothing as the blocks increment slowly, but the progress can be followed by checking the bandwidth use or by typing 'getchaintips' in the debug console. 23h30: begin block download from 16 peers in parallel (the blocks increment quickly and bandwidth increase alot). Header-first synchronisation as adapted in Anoncoin 0.9.6.11 download the headers from 2 peers in parallel but the blocks from all the peers, here from 16 peers which is the max outbound connections possible. 1h30: Anoncoin 0.9.6.11 was fully synched after 3h40 and 506 MB. So if you want to know how far your wallet has synched just type in debug 'getchaintips', and after the headers have synched the blocks will increase. CS |
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I am suprised they really hold on their word. Since yesterday ANC works on BTC38 again! (i had to open another ticket yesterday since ANC seemed to accept deposits but their wallet was busy/hang, after that 2 hours later it finally worked) if the onion-exchange goes online again we have 3 exchanges, and with Yobit (if succsessful) it would be 4. A much better situation than with only Nova like in the last week. Novas price catched up to the BTC38 price now. @ CryptoSlave is your Yobit-Fundraising BTC adress still active? i mean i would like to send you 0.03 btc because nobody else donated. can you tell me how can i register to edit this site https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Exchanges , there is no register button and the site is 18 Months old. I want to update/cleanup some facts about the exchanges. For me BTC38 deposit still do not work, like they do not work neither with BTC, DGC, EAC, HLB, MEC, NCS, TAG, WDC, ZCC. Yes, if you want to donate 0.03 btc to 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE you are welcome!  Nonetheless as said I paid yobit already last week with 0.1 BTC, and we are waiting for approval (I have no more news). Thank you very much for your generosity!  |
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Can someone with some developer brains compare https://zcoin.io/get-zcoin/ implementation of zerocoin with ANC Anoncoin zerocoin work. It looks like the zerocoin content could be downloaded from github.com and added to the ANC to create a hardfork https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin. ANC has the added benefit of having and integrated i2p tunnel. With my limited coding knowledge I've just gone through a bit of code and it looks very similar to ANC. I can't be the only one to have seen this? I'll get on irc2p and talk over the code. If this is the case, there is no need to crowdfund the zerocoin elements, but rather fund the integration of this existing zerocoin code into the ANC system. I'm struggling to see how it's much different than a cut and paste. Okay that's a bit exaggerated, but surely there must be a developer able to do this? The zcoin implementation of zerocoin is done using a trusted source for accumulator namely RSA-2048. The RSA-2048 number was created by RSA Laboratories in March 1991 to encourage research into computational number theory and the practical difficulty of factoring large integers. It was thus created by a company incorporated in USA and this company is thus to be trusted to not have kept the original two prime factors. Because we cannot trust this company to not have kept the factors, it is to be assumed this company or employees can forge fake zcoins at will, which can be done easily when the factor are known. Furthermore they badly coded their zerocoin implementation with a typo that allowed to reuse spent zerocoin. Zcoin by this way in February suffered a heist of 370000 zcoin worth about 2600000$ now. The Anoncoin implementation of zerocoin aim to use RSA-UFO as trustless accumulators. In contrast, RSA-2048 or a multiparty computation both involve different degrees of trust. In a similar way that what happened with zcoin, if some entity known the prime factors they can then generate infinite amount of zerocoin with fake Zero knowledge proof. Hoppefully, Sander gave a way to generate semiprime number with a certain degree of certainty in a trustless way using an algorithm. Those numbers are called RSA-UFO for generalised RSA moduli of Unknown complete Factorisation. It is important to note that this work by Sander is superior to secure multiparty computation protocols. Indeed, if MPC are employed during system setup colluding member could recover P and Q and thus the problem of someone who known the trapdoor also remain in the distributed setting. In contrast nobody know the complete factorisation of the RSA-UFO thus the problem of trapdoor is resolved with this setup for the accumulator. Gnosis implemented a function that on startup all Anoncoin wallet software deterministically generates the same 16 raw UFOs using SHA-256 hashing of the numbers 0-15. This being done, people from the Anoncoin community brute forced those numbers for 75 days using the Elliptic Curve Method of factorization to remove the small factors up to 165 bits. If the RSA-UFO bit length after division by small factors is lower than 3456, the RSA-UFO was unfit for the security level we wanted because it would have been possible to use the General Number Field Sieve (GNFS) to factor it. It was shown by Monte-Carlo simulation that with this minimum number of 3456 bits the RSA-UFO was unfactorable with a certainty of 80%. By using 13 such RSA-UFO, and with only one of them needed to be secure, and the zerocoin having to be accumulated in all of them, the probability of all of them to be unsecure is 0.2^13=0.0000000008192 ~ 1 out of 1 billion. So the procedure to generate the complete RSA UFOs is 1) create the 13 "raw" UFOs by hashing, and 2) divide out the small factors found in the UFO project. This is performed not only by the UFO clients and server, but also will be performed on startup by all Anoncoin wallet software. This is the trustless way to zerocoin we want to finalize in Anoncoin. In this way, the security will resist extremely powerful attackers able to remove factors by the Elliptic Curve Method (ECM) up to 768 bits and able to factor numbers up to 2048 bits using the Generalized Number Field Sieve (GNFS). This is far beyond what anybody is likely to be able to do for many decades. To summarize, the difference between zerocoin-in-Anoncoin and zerocoin-in-Zcoin is that the latter is using a trusted accumulator. For Zcoin and Zcash, even using MPC, no amount of studying the source code will tell you if the master key was destroyed as it's supposed to be. Nobody can be sure. In contrast, studying the source of Anoncoin (and relevant papers on the crypto, and the RSA-UFO wiki page) enables people to verify that there are no backdoors. This is why Anoncoin aim for using such a trustless solution. This, combined with the only implementation of I2P-SAM in the wallet of all coin, development of the C++ i2p router i2pd with orignal, and cooperation with services such as exchanged.i2p lead us to be the best trustless anonymous coin on the market. CS |
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Hi, so what is the situation there on BTC38? cannot you withdraw at least? I thought only deposit did not work I am doing the yobit application now, with the help of 0.01 btc from donation. In about a week we will see if they add Anoncoin. Meanwhile exchanged.i2p is down for maintenance (Abyss told me he will be back up soon), a new i2p service like shapeshift is in process to be build, and Nova exchange is the only exchange right now. Thank you for your donation proposal, we can discuss that when the crowdfund is set up by our fellow members. CS |
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@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE and linked the main thread to your post. who is in charge of the twitter account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit CS well isn't it possible to use the twitter account of anoncoin to ask for donations? i mean its not much money. Maybe the crowdfunding time is too short?, i reminded the main thread once a gain i hope there will be some more donators, i mean to donate 0,01btc should be possible for a lot of people here i have a funny idea, if Yobit adds ANC i would inform BTC38 they should hurry up because there is a new competionion Market. Maybe that speeds up their actions. I think I have a solution to help you CS. Why don't you provide your yobit ZEC address here and we can join together and do some mining directly to your account until you get to 0.1BTC. I have no BTC. All my coins are in other currencies. Can people interested in helping say so here. http://zcash.flypool.org is pretty good and pays when one reaches 0.01 ZEC (0.00106789 BTC) Good idea! I do not own BTC myself neither, this is why I shall buy new ones before sending to yobit, hence the delay of a few days to get money. Here is the Zec address yobit generated for my account: t1Zh5RmUrsW1HMTyf7bnkRNuEw6WcSpjpyG Otherwise the btc address is still valid 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE Thanks to all miners and donators! As said, we never owned anoncoin twitter account, they were from community members, now they do not follow anoncoin anymore it seems. I have the @cryptoslave twitter account but not a lot of followers and I do not know how many are interested in Anoncoin or in my random tweets |
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Your questions
A) The starting 3 years of mining coins was producing a 10% income for developers. This is bound to stifle innovation and development after the 3 year period. Personally I see crowd funding as the best option. Payment can be made in FIAT or Bitcoin as there are not enough Anoncoin mining to continue the ICO type scenario
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Just as a side note, I would suggest developers of zerocoin buy large amounts of ANC in order that when they complete the crowd funding project, they receive a double whammy of finance as their ANC holdings increase and they receive a payout from the crowd funding.
Just to clarify, there was not a premine of 10% or anything on Anoncoin. At launch Meeh mined 1000 block (0.14% of a total of 3100000) before sharing the chain in public, for testing purpose, and he gave them back to the community via donation thread and faucet. I know it has a fact because he gave to me my first 150 ANC this way (100 on forum and 50 in I2P chat). Premine: 1000 blocks (4200 ANC) that were returned to the community by community donations and a public faucet. Other than that there was absolutely no premine you can check the ANC source code on github. |
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@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE and linked the main thread to your post. who is in charge of the twitter account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit CS |
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Ysell - If CS allows us to update twitter and facebook, do you want to focus on one and I will focus on the other?
Sadly, we never where in control of AnoncoinNews. Facebook I do not know who has it, probably meeh as I do not see K1773r on this thing at all.  |
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CS - Are we free to use the Anonymous logo to market/publicise Anoncoin?
What about facebook and twitter?
Of course, the logo was done via a contest two year ago and is free to use |
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Which crowdfunding website should we use?
Here is a btc address for this purpose only (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE I was just thinking to use this address in my btc wallet, if you know any other method tell me... |
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ysell i use windows7 with the portable version. Can you access the the tor service of the i2p exchange? i tried and asked but nobody responded yet. @ Cryptoslave i am not sure if that the best way, since they offer a paid service it might be better to do a small crowdfunding 0,1btc. Like i said i would add 0,01btc so wee need some more people willing to add some btc. https://yobit.net/en/addcoin/Since you are the master (even when you call yourself the CryptoSlave) , i suggest we send the BTC to you and you fill in the tech detail. What do you think? OK we can do that and I will complete to 0.1 btc if ever the goal is not met. It is a reasonable price, some other exchanges ask 3 btc!!  Yobit 24h volume was $14,879,052 or 6,537 BTC vs Novaexchange $198,322 or 87 BTC Here is a btc address for this purpose only (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYEThe first of June I will complete to 0.1 btc and ask them Thank you all! CS |
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