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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: June 05, 2019, 07:47:31 AM
Late reply to the thread 8 question about Zotac - I'm starting to have fans fail on the few Zotac mini cards I own.
I can NOT recommend most of their cards (or the NEW model EVGA stuff) due to their use of "fancy name" sleeve bearing fans and the resulting FAST FAILURES on those fans.

I'm more than a little ticked off at EVGA lately, as they're moving across the board away from their long-time use of GOOD ball bearing fans to JUNK - first it was the bloody G3 power supplies, now their graphic cards....
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How much would it cost to build mining rig? on: June 05, 2019, 07:35:09 AM

That was a great suggestion, however, as per my understanding, this equipment is not good enough to mine Bitcoin, but it can be a good option for altcoins like Litecoin. Also, I think the RAM should be 8 or 16 GB.

Forget many altcoins as well - scrypt coins like Litecoin have been ASIC-dominated for a few YEARS now in particular and the widespread proliferation of ASIC for many algorithms over the last year has killed GPU mining for a LOT of algorithms/coins where GPUs used to be highly profitable.
Mining rigs don't need a ton of ram - 16GB is definitely overkill even for an ETH rig that is using the old-type "build the DAG file on the CPU" type miners, though it MIGHT need 8 - and any other GPU-mineable algorithm isn't going to need 8.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: April 30, 2019, 11:28:59 PM


I'm considering rebuilding rigs for my R9 290s - ran the numbers yesterday and they'd be profitable - BARELY - at current conditions.


The issue with the R9 290, is that they don't hash at 30MH/s anymore with ETH, they got that DAG thrashing bug that the 280X had and they hash now at like 20MH/s while using like 200 Watts, hence it will be a while before they are profitable.

Didn't think they had gotten THAT bad - but it's been some months since I actively mined with them, and they were still pulling 28-29 at the time.
I haven't used 280x on ETH mining for YEARS now, there were better options even before the big widespread price jump.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: April 30, 2019, 11:26:08 PM

these do pull higher watts but are hashing at 30.25 avg.  They dont really have any HW errors in hwinfo.  I kinda misspoke you are right, the ultra low watt 470s hash lower at 26.5-27.5 with reduced clock but are under 100w, with something like 0.825v core.  I remember wolf going 0.75v or something on this forum and achieving really low power usage but I cant come close to it.  Of course some cards are shit and dont cooperate.  These are either MSI armor/gaming x 470 or mining edition nitro 470.  Im curious to real actual power usage but yeah thats pretty much it, they are my favorite gpus. 

GPU-Z on AMD cards dos NOT report complete power figures - they appear to only report the power used by the GPU ITSELF, not including other power draw on the card like THE MEMORY.

This seems to be an issue with the CARD ITSELF not reporting the correct power draw figure, or splitting the report between more than one "figure" that has to be read and added together.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: April 30, 2019, 11:21:30 PM
Since we've had a couple of new graphics cards enter the market, I thought it would be nice to see how they compare with current household names.
I went ahead and updated my short list of GPUs efficient at mining Ethereum. If you notice any errors, please let me know so I can correct them.

Partial list arranged by power efficiency (updated as of 4/23):

The full comparison is at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w6qQtpwzlKRPSx3hYIpTrO1d29SwAIhOV4CNGi3Jk6Y/edit?usp=sharing


Your numbers are a hair off on the GTX 1070 - I routinely see 31 Mhash/sec out of ALL of mine (usually a little more, rarely a HAIR less) and none need 110 watts to get there (a couple need 108, the rest are in the 104-106 range).
This is a wide mix of cards, EVGA, Gigabyte (including the last surviving MicroATX I have), MSI, Zotac off the top of my head, and at least 8 different card models.

Still, the newer cards do seem to have finally beat the old hash/watt king solidly.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: April 30, 2019, 11:16:48 PM
OHMYGOD what does it take to hit legendary?!

You should be getting fairly close, if you've been posting for enough weeks.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: April 08, 2019, 08:05:38 PM
Wow if ETH and XMR go up slightly more then I would have to dust off my GPU rigs again and power them up. Really hope this rally continues for the next few weeks or so.


I'm considering rebuilding rigs for my R9 290s - ran the numbers yesterday and they'd be profitable - BARELY - at current conditions.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: April 08, 2019, 08:03:43 PM
Been out of the Antminer game for a while but saw an article that they just released an Antminer S17, is this also an April fools joke?

Last Antminer I've heard of was the Antminer S9 and all of a sudden they skipped it down to S17. Really surprised they are still in the mining game after the failed IPO and the massive losses they suffered last year due to the BCH price crash.

You missed the S15, T15, S13, S11 among others.
S17 will be their second generation on TSMC's 7nm process.

Also, they probably CAUSED the BCH price crash by selling off a big chunk of their stash (AND their other coins) to finance the massive losses they had in 2H 2018.
IMO they're THE cause for the Bitcoin move from around $6000 to under $4000 with that dump.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: April 08, 2019, 08:01:06 PM

No where like the old days. Dec 2017 seems so far away.

I'd settle for Dec 2015, when profitability was "very rough ballpark estimate" around 6 TIMES what it is right now.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ❤ Medic Coin ❤ Folding@Home GPU Mining Masternode Coin on: April 06, 2019, 04:44:19 PM
I don't see a point in keeping this project alive.
Due to how it is structured, it COMPETES with the long-established AND FAR MORE SUCCESSFUL CureCoin (though both can work with FoldingCoin, which was smart enough to AVOID the issue that causes Medic and Cure to NOT be able to work together).
I *PERSONALLY* have been outproducing MedicCoin since somewhere late in December 2018 or VERY early January 2019 despite my having cut BACK some on my own Folding work production, during which timeframe MedicCoin has pretty close to become a non-factor in Folding as it has slowly died since it's short-lived peak production back in May of 2018.

The current value of MedicCoin makes it look unlikely that a folder can even BREAK EVEN against their electric cost, while Curecoin ALONE has been solidly profitable that entire time.

Why persist on trying to push this sad project? Total waste of time and effort at this point.


"Protein folding to help scientists is in full force." - at about the level of ONE SINGLE GTX 1070 CARD for the past week, and perhaps 2-3 of them for the two weeks before that.
PATHETIC.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: March 25, 2019, 08:29:45 PM

I mine LTC and Doge at the big solar array


Merge-mining the Doge I presume?
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: March 25, 2019, 08:25:12 PM
What miner do you use ?

because i have tested all configs on my rx580 farm and i'm not profitable on any of them.

I got 915h/s for 106W per card on Monero it is not profitable with my electricity cost :

https://whattomine.com/coins/101-xmr-cryptonightr?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=915.0&p=106.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.15&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate

At 15 cents / kwh you can pretty much write off being profitable unless something new shows up or another "big price jump" happens.

33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Zealot/Enemy (z-enemy) NVIDIA GPU miner (ver 1.28). on: March 17, 2019, 10:02:22 AM
2 of the 3 links point to files that don't exist - missing the .gz at the end.
Good thing I normally use actual FTP to talk to FTP servers, not links.

If you go to ftp you can see all miners from z-enemy in root directory

Yup, and the tar.gz files decompressed and run, but even with having just installed the 418 drivers I'm getting a "can't find shared library libcudartxx" error on each one, with the missing library having a number matching the z-enemy version.


Try 417.+ drivers

"...having just installed the 418 drivers..."

I'm pretty sure those are "417.+"
To be picky the ones I installed are the LATEST 418.43 driver version.

There is no LINUX driver with a 417 version number - the previous versions are an older 418 version then a couple of 415 versions, if you're suggesting "417.something" specifically.

(UPDATE)

The Cuda RT files are NOT part of the drivers - they are part of the bloody CUDA TOOLKIT, which isn't mentioned ANYWHERE in what instructions I can find - though you can find the 9.1 version as an "apt-get" accessable package, the later ones don't seem to be available from Canonical forcing you to download the ENTIRE TOOLKIT from Nvidia if you want the later CUDA versions.

Now I'm trying to figure out another error about a curl-related missing library.

(UPDATE 2)

That one turned out to be fairly simple, found several mentions of it

apt install libcurl3 libcurl-openssl1.0-dev


There really needs to be an INSTALL GUIDE for the LINUX version of this, or at least SOME SORT of instructions, distributing the LINUX version as just the program itself makes it a NIGHTMARE to get installed and working.

34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Zealot/Enemy (z-enemy) NVIDIA GPU miner (ver 1.28). on: March 16, 2019, 01:06:13 AM
2 of the 3 links point to files that don't exist - missing the .gz at the end.
Good thing I normally use actual FTP to talk to FTP servers, not links.

If you go to ftp you can see all miners from z-enemy in root directory

Yup, and the tar.gz files decompressed and run, but even with having just installed the 418 drivers I'm getting a "can't find shared library libcudartxx" error on each one, with the missing library having a number matching the z-enemy version.

35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Zealot/Enemy (z-enemy) NVIDIA GPU miner (ver 1.28). on: March 15, 2019, 10:45:24 PM
2 of the 3 links point to files that don't exist - missing the .gz at the end.
Good thing I normally use actual FTP to talk to FTP servers, not links.

36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Zealot/Enemy (z-enemy) NVIDIA GPU miner (ver 1.28). on: March 15, 2019, 09:55:08 PM
Linux links for 1.28 on Mega seem to be sending WINDOWS version - tried all 3, "invalid executable format" error on all 3 under XUbuntu.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: February 18, 2019, 04:59:50 PM

i would like to point out that there is another option, passive income like rooms/apartment/anything for rent produces current too just a different kind of current called currency $$$ that currency can get you coins thru exchanges or run your rigs thru the electric company by sending them $$$.

here is a food for thought, the biggest mining farm--> federal reserve, they can print 4000$ cash for just around 3$ cost...just 3$ for 1 BTC...even cheaper, just typing 4000$ in a computer, that's just cents in electricity and efforts for 1 BTC  Tongue hehe

The "passive income" thing can work, but it does have costs and needs a LOT of investment to generate significant income.
My maternal Grandparents went that route after Grandpa retired - but they had fairly close to $1,000,000 to work with between Grandpa cashing out his "employee stock purchase" plan, them selling their (fairly small) farm, etc.
You can get started with quite a bit less than that though - but it's a case of "more investment = more income" and is pretty close to linear in a given area.

The Federal Reserve Bank does NOT print money - that's the US Treasury Department via the US Mint(s), and they also turn metal into money (but sometimes at a LOSS on that, pennies in particular the material cost has been higher than 1 cent for a LONG time now).

38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Minecraft Server? --Read-- on: February 15, 2019, 01:07:55 AM
Bitquest itself has added a second server called Dogequest, and the code apparently supports any altcoin you prefer to use.
The Bitquest SERVER has been pretty close to dead (lack of interest from most of it's former userbase) but the DogeQuest server was still active up to September last year, when it had a "month long" event that lagged the server to unplayability, then spent most of the next 3 months working on an upgrade to 1.13.2 and being DOWN most of that time.
They're both back up now, but the userbase has not recovered much at this point.

You might also want to look at the EmeraldQuest fork off the Bitquest code, as the dev for that is working on stuff like player-owned stores - AND supporting altcoins not just emeralds on the same server at the same time.
39  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [November 2016] Bitcoin Mining Datacenters by the Megawatt on: February 15, 2019, 01:02:05 AM
Gigawatt has gone bankrupt, blaming excessive regulatory delay issues and the recently proposed (BUT NOT YET IMPLEMENTED, it's getting challenged in court) Grant County cryptocoin-specific rate.
This seems to indicate MegaBigPower is also going or gone, since they were connected and a local article I saw about it talked about Dave Carlson going bankrupt "multiple times" on cryptocoin operations.

To be fair, they DID suffer some serious delays on the Moses Lake site, as documented in Moses Lake City Counsel meeting transcripts - not sure about the East Wenatchee airport site.

(edit)
Visited the East Wenatchee "Panghorn Airport" site a couple weeks back - they appear to have gotten about 8 units ready to go, with 4 or 5 more "under construction" before they went bankrupt.
The site has reverted ownership to Douglas Country Port Authority per several articles in local papers, and apparently the improvements are also now owned by the Port Authority, which is apparently planning to turn it into some sort of cryptocoin-related center.

I have never been able to find out where their Moses Lake facility was located, so no data on that.

The challenge to the Grant Country cryptocoin-specific rate is still going through the court system, but Grant Country PUD implemented it and starting charging it a few months back - I managed to duck it by having shifted to pretty much all Folding before then, but the first step of it IS in fact active.


This would appear to put Gigawatt in the "dead" list at 12 MW for Douglas Country/Douglas County, and "unknown" but based on what I HAVE been able to find out at least 3 MW for Grant Country/Moses Lake.
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: February 15, 2019, 12:57:30 AM


@ vosk BCI is a shit coin  the entire net work is 10.11gh  I am at 210mh or 1/50 of the network


There have been times I managed close to 2% on a couple smaller coins - DGB for one, and I think Gridcoin I was pushing close to that before they decided to delist MooWrapper for "not being scientific enough" - while still supporting several other projects that were even less scientific.
To be fair, sometime in the last 6 months they've gotten around to delisting most of those OTHER projects.

At my peak in Folding@Home, I was a bit over 2% - then the "rented farms" fad and a certain developer got crazy-big.

Even some not-entirely-shit coins don't take a lot of horsepower to "go big" on at times.
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