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21  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 04:49:50 PM
США взяла под контроль Bitcoin и выставил его на риски системы США законной. Товарищи, мы должны собраться вместе, чтобы взять под контроль код. Satoshi призывает к нашей помощи.

Los Estados Unidos han tomado el control de Bitcoin y ha expuesto a los riesgos del sistema legal de los Estados Unidos. Camaradas, hay que reunirse para tomar el control de la base de código. Satoshi está pidiendo nuestra ayuda.

واتخذت الولايات المتحدة السيطرة على Bitcoin ويتعرض لمخاطر النظام القانوني للولايات المتحدة. الرفاق، يجب علينا
جمع معا للسيطرة على مصدر برنامج. ساتوشي تدعو إلى مساعدتنا.

米国は、Bitcoinのを制御していると米国の法的システムのリスクにさらされています。仲間は、私たちは、コードベースの制御を取るために一緒に収集する必要があります。サトシたちは助けを求めている。

美国已采取的控制Bitcoin的和已经暴露了美国法律制度的风险。同志们,我们必须聚集在一起,采取控制的codebase。聪呼吁我们的帮助。

Les Etats-Unis ont pris le contrôle de Bitcoin et l'a exposée aux risques du système juridique des États-Unis. Camarades, nous devons nous rassembler pour prendre le contrôle du code source. Satoshi lance un appel à notre aide.

De Verenigde Staten heeft de controle over Bitcoin genomen en heeft zij blootgesteld aan de risico's van de Verenigde Staten rechtssysteem. Kameraden, we moeten samenkomen om de controle van de codebase te nemen. Satoshi vraagt ​​om onze hulp.

Usono faris kun Bitcoin kaj elmontris gxin al la riskoj de Usono leĝa sistemo. Kamaradoj, ni devas kunvenigu al fari kun la codebase. Satoshi vokas nian helpon.






22  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 03:06:36 PM
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So what? = most won't care
23  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 02:43:30 PM
gmaxwell: haters are going to hate.

I don't hate Bitcoin. I think the facts speak for themselves, THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. is running Bitcoin now, Bitcoin is deeply linked to a United States corporation and Satoshi is a member of THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC.

Some people will like this, others will dislike it and most won't care or even know. Exposing the truth is not fear mongering.
24  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 02:00:25 PM
If the general counsel of the THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. fumbled on its first document (the by-laws) by including Satoshi. What will it fumble next?
25  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 01:19:55 PM
The Network says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE

and to THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC.:

I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, God damn it! My life has VALUE!' So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"
26  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 12:42:47 PM
THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. has even gone so far as to list Satoshi as a founding member in their by-laws. Without his consent and thus implying that Satoshi is affiliated with THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. to further strengthen their takeover of Bitcoin.

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ARTICLE III - MEMBERSHIP

Section 3.1 Membership Classes: The Corporation will have three classes of membership:

(a) Founding Members;

(b) Industry Members; and

(c) Individual Members.

The term "member" may be used to refer generically to a member in any class.

Section 3.2 Membership Qualifications: The requirements for membership in each membership class shall be as follows:

(a) Founding Members. The Founding Members of the Corporation shall be:

i. Gavin Andresen, Bitcoin Developer residing or doing business in Amherst, MA, USA.

ii. Peter Vessenes, CEO of CoinLab and residing or doing business in Bainbridge Island, WA, USA.

iii. Charles Shrem, CEO of BitInstant residing or doing business in Brooklyn, NY, USA.

iv. Roger Ver, CEO of MemoryDealers residing or doing business in Santa Clara, CA, USA.

v. Patrick Murck, Principal at Engage Legal, PLLC residing or doing business in Washington, DC, USA.

vi. Mark Karpeles, CEO of MtGox.com and residing or doing business in Tokyo, Japan.

vii. Satoshi Nakamoto, at satoshin@gmx.com, author of the white paper “Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System” published on http://bitcoin.org and owner of the PGP Public Key with fingerprint: 5EC948A1.


26/Apr/2013 Wall Street Journal - First-Quarter Growth, at 2.5%, Misses Expectations
27  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 11:11:15 AM
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Y'all could have put together a non-profit to hold the Bitcoin trademark and to pay for development of the official client, but the people who actually got off their asses and did it were those with largely commercial interests in Bitcoin.  If you don't like their focus, then start forming other groups to address the issues you believe are important.

And now its come out that "they" hold the Bitcoin trademark. Unbelievable.

And now pay for development of the official client. (Control the lead developer)

**** THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. now owns  you. ****
28  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 10:44:37 AM
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They are just trying to get Bitcoin accepted by the masses and recognized by official media. Of course they have to be centralized if they ever want to succeed in doing that.

I don't mind that the Foundation exists - as you said: BITCOIN CANNOT BE CONTROLLED anyway, so why worry ?

Completely decentralized things don't work in the real world - that is why foundation exists: to create a bridge between the two worlds.

The problem is that they self appointed themselves as the representatives of Bitcoin and have the lead developer under their control. They've admitted they would be "happy" to be regulated. They operate out of the United States and as such there is now the true possibility that the United States can control the Bitcoin code.
29  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 10:36:59 AM
Above you can see that somebody involved with THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. is trying to "use" you.

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Do you have a back ground in this sort of thing? I think we could use someone who knows something about this.

Additionally, they now admit they have other things to do as well as advancing Bitcoin. What is this hidden agenda?

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The foundation has a lot of work to do in addition to advancing Bitcoin.

**** Well there you have it, a United States corporation is trying to take over Bitcoin. **** 

Good luck everyone.
30  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Peter Vessenes resign as the Executive Director for Bitcoin Foundation ? on: April 26, 2013, 09:56:12 AM
My comment on this topic was initially meant more as a joke. However, as I researched the "foundation" it became clear that things are not quite what they appear to be. Other Bitcoiners had concerns about the "foundation" long before me and I now stand with them.
31  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 09:44:34 AM
Hopefully the development lead will come to the realization that there is a conflict of interest being involved with both Bitcoin and THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC.

32  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? on: April 26, 2013, 09:36:25 AM
If they are violating their own by-laws what else are they violating?

MEMBERSHIP CLASS   MEMBERSHIP DUES
Founding Members   10BTC per annum
Industry Members (Silver)   500BTC per annum
Industry Members (Gold)   2,500BTC per annum
Industry Members (Platinum)   10,000BTC per annum
Individual Members   2.5BTC per annum
Individual Members (Lifetime Membership)   25BTC one-time

33  Economy / Service Discussion / THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 09:21:20 AM
It's interesting that THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. conveniently and casually drop the  "INC." designation at the bottom of their website at https://bitcoinfoundation.org/.

If they are trying to hide the fact that they are a United States corporation, what else could they be hiding?

Edit: I have removed the link to the general counsel. On further thought, there is no need to make this personal. Bitcoin is supposed to be fun.
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? on: April 26, 2013, 08:20:18 AM
Running "The Foundation" out of a US corporation is not really in the spirit of Bitcoin.

This looks like an opportunity to declare an organization that exists on the Internet. Something ground breaking would be to have the organization exist outside of a geographical jurisdiction. (Perhaps the .bit namespace)

I see documents like the following being useful for its Genesis:

Articles of Organization
Constitution

Perhaps Satoshi can step forward to draft the first documents and sign it with his PGP signature and put it in the Blockchain so, We the Bitcoiners can declare independence from our owners and work to protect and grow the Blockchain.



35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? on: April 26, 2013, 07:48:10 AM

Yes, this is it. So it is a non-profit US corporation organized in the District of Colombia (Washington D.C.)

It is a Foundation in name only. What we have is a US Corporation.  Shocked

36  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? on: April 26, 2013, 07:31:30 AM
Hello,

Does anyone know where the By-laws are located for the Bitcoin Foundation? They are referred to here:

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/governance

Also, are there any sort of Articles available or filed anywhere which show the genesis of the foundation?

It would be interesting to see how the foundation came into being and how the members appointed themselves.

Thank you.
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Peter Vessenes resign as the Executive Director for Bitcoin Foundation ? on: April 25, 2013, 09:45:34 AM
The issue is really quite simple, just don't vote for Peter Vessenes on the next election pursuant to the by-laws of the foundation. If members are really upset they can vote to impeach him.  Grin
38  Other / Off-topic / Re: What to do if you're crazy about a girl that has a boyfriend? on: December 10, 2012, 08:45:43 PM
Also, clean the pipes before the first date, that will take the pressure off. Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xuah8LC-Cw
39  Other / Off-topic / Re: DEC 21 2012, IF YOU BELIEVE on: December 10, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
I don't like that address, do you have a nicer vanity address that I can use? Like:

1TheEndxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

That way I'd feel more comfortable.
40  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin - one of the beasts mentioned in Bible? on: December 09, 2012, 11:09:47 PM
The other beast as located by Wolfram Alpha:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=computer

Check out the frequency of the written word.  Shocked
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