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2-Factor Authentication feature seems to be out of commission. Both "Create secret" and "Show recovery codes" button grayed out and do not work when "Activate" box is checked. Is that function still developed? It would be nice to have U2F authentication as well. Guidance on how to send / receive crypto using FinMail service would be greatly appreciated.
UPD: managed to make 2FA working but I don't understand how I did it through randomized clicking on various buttons, either a bug or not straightforward implementation.
Thank you for your comment, which is very valuable. U2F authentication may be useful for payment related users and, we'll consider supporting it. A new guide on how to use Finmail Mailbox may also be introduced in the main site. To enable 2FA, please try the steps below: Login -> Click "Settings" -> Click "2-Factor Authentication" -> Click "Fill all fields" -> Scan QR code -> In the text field right to the "Check code" button, fill in the auth code on your cell phone -> Click "Check code" -> A message shows "Code OK" -> Click "Save" -> Done |
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I don`t completely understand what role cryptocurrencies have in your project. Could I transfer them just with the e-mail, right? I think project is quite local, because I really don`t see it necessity in my life, but it looks really strong and hope Finmail will find own consumers
Thank you for your comment. Presently you can transfer BTC/USDT using email addresses within Finmail, Hotmail, Outlook and Office 365 users by internal transfer. As mentioned in the last post, options 2 and 3 enable different email hosts to transfer BTC/USDT in between by email addresses as well. Since different hosts are completely independent, we have to rely on cryptocurrencies to transfer value between them. In future we also hope to transfer digital currencies together with e-mail, which should be technically feasible. Although not totally sure, we believe the project will make people's lives more convenient in future. |
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Will users be able to self-custody?
It is possible. Presently we are expected to support the following custody options: 1. Use @finmail.com as main domain to handle both email and digital currency. All domain, mailbox and coin wallets are hosted by us, like the Finmail Mailbox. 2. Use custom domain from users. Domain is self-custody by users, while mailbox and coin wallets are hosted by us. 3. All domain, mailbox and coin wallets are self-custody by users. All transfers of BTC/USDT can be made by email address. Within the same hosts, they goes through internal transfer to enjoy low cost and high efficiency, while between different hosts they goes through external transfer, i.e. BTC/USDT network. Users can also send/receive just coins by email addresses, if they do not plan to use mailbox. In this case, there is no need to host mailbox. All 3 options have been realized through our internal test. However, since option 3 needs to release source code to users, for security purpose, it may not be available at the moment. We may release options 3 when appropriate. If interested, you are welcome to try option 1 and 2. To option 2, please contact us for more details. |
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Thank you for the comments, which are quite valuable.
To solve the partial refund issue, it is true that due to the relatively low transaction speed and high fee of Bitcoin, more currencies need to be introduced, for example LTC and USDT, etc. In this way, we are using the "remittance" or "clearing" approach, which is also how email is working.
Alternatively, some semi-centralized or centralized mechanisms can also be introduced, for example lighting network and third-party service. In this way, the value transfer is kind of "payment", which is usually faster and fault-tolerant. However, the network covered by payment service is usually smaller than email. Therefore these approaches will be good supplement to the add-in, but the foundation will still be digital currency.
The current support for Microsoft email is due to the fact that Outlook/Hotmail has wider acceptance globally than Gmail, although Gmail has more users than Outlook. In addition, the development environment for Outlook is very mature, which makes is easy for us to turn the idea into production. After the add-in for Outlook/Hotmail, we will naturally continue the development for other brands including Gmail, if the market turns out to be valuable.
It might be true that it will be a humongous task to make people trust the add-in and their online money (personally I do not like this word). However just like online payment 20 years ago and, cloud service 10 years ago, the change of publicity in internet age is always faster than old days. In addition, regardless the publicity, if the project is really a cornerstone, it will be able to show the beneficial value to the society, which we believe so.
Hello dude, I think you must also consider this one  this is for the better and improvement in regarding to your post here anyway. Although, I am reviewing it right now all the statement mentioned in the above as well. Thank you for the comments. We have updated the topic subject and the first post, which reflects the latest development of Finmail. Hope it is fine. |
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Monthly Update: 1. Finmail Mailbox, a new email service integrated with digital currency, has started internal testing. 2. More than 200 people have received our invitation to participate in the internal test of Finmail Mailbox 3. Both back-end and front-end of Finmail Payment has been updated to support Finmail Mailbox The Finmail October Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/b7NLk4tJt |
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Monthly Update: 1. The homepage of Finmail Focus is updated 2. The article layout is updated in order to encourage more voting and rating 2. The article handling process is improved The Finmail September Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/44NJFvKXj |
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Monthly Update: 1. Some task scopes are updated 2. The Finmail Focus website back-end is improved to be more efficient. 3. The number of new article submissions reaches around 150 The Finmail August Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/8eNGgqV5s |
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Monthly Update: 1. A new version of Finmail Payment service is released, which enables all domain owners to use their domain-based email addresses to send/receive BTC/USDT payment. The service can be hosted either on cloud, or even on your own server. 2. A new version Finmail Add-in is released in Office Store, which is compatible with the updated Finmail Payment service. 3. The ID verification policy is updated, which enables people to post freelance tasks without the need of ID verification, if the reward is small. 4. A new user guide for Finmail Payment Web is online. The Finmail July Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/ecNELXkJE |
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Monthly Update: 1. In addition to personal submissions, solutions submitted by organizations are also accepted. 2. The back-end of Finmail Payment service is improved with emphasis on stability. 3. The number of article submissions maintains a record high. The Finmail June Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/8dNBrEEjD |
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Looks like an interesting project, I think the UX/UI could be improved but nonetheless it's a great idea.
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Monthly Update: 1. The WordPress writing platform is being continuously improved 2. The number of article submissions keeps historical high 3. Due to bitcoin halving, the transaction fee was increased substantially in the last 2 weeks, and it has now gradually recovered. The Finmail May Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/02N9BptSM |
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Monthly Update: 1. Finmail Focus has been moved to WordPress 2. The review procedure is improved by online writing 3. All new articles that have passed review will be published immediately 4. The back-end of Finmail Payment service is upgraded The Finmail April Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/5aN6nNqWl |
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Monthly Update: 1. A new internal points system "Finmail Credits" (FC) is introduced, which can be redeemed for most of Finmail services, but it cannot be changed back to cash or digital currencies. 2. The Finmail Credits can be topped-up up by Paypal or Credit Card. 3. The Finmail Credits is integrated to the "Post New Task" feature. By posting a new task, user can redeem Finmail Credits (FC) for USDT as task reward and, distribute it to task takers/winners in USDT. 4. The backend of Finmail Payment is improved. 5. In support of the fight against the rapidly spreading Covid-19, we donated DKK 3,500 (around $500) to the Danish Red Cross. It carries our best wishs and social responsibilities to the people of the world. The Finmail March Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/b9N4CJ5mcWish everyone good health! |
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Monthly Update: 1. A new "Post New Task" feature is introduced, which enables verified user to post their tasks together with payment/reward 2. A new subject writing task is introduced 3. Finmail Focus is introduced, which includes all featured solutions 4. The website is updated by category, which makes it easier and more intuitive to visit The Finmail February Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/b5N1uVzr6 |
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Monthly Update: 1. A new ID Verification mechanism is introduced to improve security level, especially for task poster 2. A new round of Finmail Work Open Tasks has been successfully finished, with top-rated reward for $15. 3. More than 30 high quality articles are published in knowledge base with focus on blockchain technology, application and impacts, etc. The Finmail January Newsletter in 2020 is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/87M-Hm0CcHappy New Year  |
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True that SRC is an old coin which is still running. One of the nodes is 45.33.57.72 |
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Disclaimer: All statements below are just personal opinion and, unofficialOverall, the coinbase's (abbr. "cb") patent is more kind of extention to their exchange, while our solution is more kind of extention to today's email system. In another word, you can change "email" to "instant message" and, "email address" to "message user name", then cb's patent still works, although it may not be granted. However such change cannot be applied to our solution in general, as it is to send email "together with" digital currency and, partly based on SMTP/POP3 protocol. Furthermore, cb's solution is a traditional centralized approach, that means, all payments rely on their exchange. To this point, cb's solution looks more an overlay of "message + payment". If we use "email + fiat", then it is how paypal works today. Such structure also breaks the characteristics of email that, when an email is sent out to receiver, the receiver should not rely on sender or other party, which is also what digital currency like BTC has. To this point, what we are trying to solve is to enable email system to have the same cross-platform capability to transfer value with help of digital currency. In this way, individual email host can also be its own value host and, a centalized 3rd party is nice to have, but not mandatory.
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Monthly Update: 1. A new round of Finmail Work Open Tasks has been successfully finished, with top-rated reward for $30. 2. Some new features are introduced to the website, i.e. "Knowledge Base" and "My Reward", etc. 3. The forum is updated to sync with all public solutions. 4. The back-end of Finmail Payment is improved. The Finmail December Newsletter is available at https://shoutout.wix.com/so/feMykowktMerry Christmas |
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