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21  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have You Counted Or Estimate All Your Losses And.... on: January 13, 2020, 09:45:22 PM
There is no point in estimating your gambling losses. Most people are happy to see that even with a small amount they have been a success and can not offset all the losses. On my own, I never calculate because if I know how much my losses compared to my success, it will be regrettable to my side. One thing I've learned, it's priceless the pleasure I get in gambling and I guess that's enough for me.
22  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So traders, how much You lose? on: January 12, 2020, 10:44:20 PM
In investing, everyone will feel the loss and not always get a benefit, but when doing the same thing, the loss will be a lesson and learn as a Person not to make the same mistakes. Never give up when losses are on your side and keep trying to be a good and right trader, and learn all well and don't be shy to ask those who have learn and keep trying to find good information in investing for consideration and decision remains in us and our own conscience, and that's my experience and forgetting losses and always remembering motivational mistakes.
23  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's going on? on: January 12, 2020, 10:12:14 PM
yes i agree with you op the price of bitcoin is now very volatile because there is manipulation by big traders. Large traders sell or buy bitcoin in large quantities and this will affect demand and supply. and sometimes small traders are also influenced to buy or sell, so this trade makes the bitcoin market very volatile. and also news about the banning of crypto at local exchanges in China later also affected yesterday's bitcoin dump.
24  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if Bitcoin never reaches a new ATH? on: January 05, 2020, 12:45:14 AM
I strongly doubt that. Bitcoin's price would undoubtedly once again hit an all-time high, but I believe it would come only when other governments decide to accept it. In the long run, this would certainly increase their use in the world and their quality. It definitely wouldn't happen soon, so holders should be careful and stay strong. Hopefully bitcoin will hit millions in the distant future.
25  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you learn as a gambler? on: January 03, 2020, 11:22:09 PM
Gamble from time to time and don't find it a source of income, particularly not your main source of income. Gamble on the things you know about. If you're playing sports than betting on the sports that you understand and obey. Don't look at the odds and make their assumptions. A serious player is playing single matches and only the matches they know about. That's the only way you can make money out of it.
26  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What matters most to online casinos? on: January 03, 2020, 12:12:15 AM
Typically, privacy, reputation and good services like withdrawal and deposit are significant. These are the most common factors that gamblers wanted every time gambling sites are searched and reviewed. Just to make sure they don't get abuse, and the gambling site should have a validated fair system and algorithm. I can recommend that you first have your own research before using a gambling platform to avoid future problems such as getting scammed.
27  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BItcoin: The path to $10,000,000 ten million dollars per coin on: December 30, 2019, 07:11:38 PM
Be realistic about the bonuses, are you confident the bitcoin's price will pump that easily? You're too greedy because you don't take the risks into account and you're focusing only on rewards. That's the other people's problem, they think the value will immediately become a million dollars per person. Bitcoin's price won't be as easy as that, you should be mindful of support and resistance.
28  Economy / Service Discussion / Just got banned from bitmixer campaign and have a question on: June 19, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
How is this guys posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=176777;sa=showPosts are better than mine? Because he's in the campaign shitposting for a while already.
29  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin crash or moon after august/sept implementation on: June 15, 2017, 02:23:28 PM
I am very happy to see the price going back down hopefully to $500 this time just please only once let it go there for a few minutes when I'm not asleep so that I could get 20BTC and then from there you can go wherever you want.
Tattoo this on your butt chicks first chance you'll get: Bitcoin will rise no matter what! only it takes time! those selling/dumping are the future losers and those who buy/pick are the fortunate few in the future. what do you care what happens then? you just store your Bitcoins and successfully transfer them, is there anything more complicated than that and is there anything else at all?
Problem with people in this community is when they own a few coins or half a coin they think they own the whole concept, they feel entitled to make decisions and have a saying in everything related for grown ups and the people behind the scene.
You just use your coins there is nothing more to it.
I can bet that you wouldn't buy any bitcoins when and if it crashes back to 500 dollars at the moment you will not want it. The reason why is that it is most probably going to crash as well even more as the market cap of ethereum and most probably ripple would surpass it. That would be disastrous for bitcoin and the newbies that are coming in now and don't care about technology would just jump in to the ones at the top.

However, it's really good that such crash is impossible at the moment and will remain impossible. There are just too many important people involved with it that they would let the price crash just like that. There are tons of bitcoin businesses like exchanges, card issuers and atms services that would survive a huge loss. Even if something horrible happens on the uasf date as the chain split, bitcoin still wouldn't go down under 1k, so if you believe in bitcoin and don't want to take a loss then just hold it long term.
Hi everybody

Heard a lot latetly about the bitcoin fork, segwit, unlimited..
Whats your thoughts on it?
Will BTC moon to 10k or will it be dump?
Please explain.

Even if it moons it won't be 10k. That's just an absurd number in my opinion.

It will depend on how the community reacts and there is really no way that anyone can predict that right now. What will possibly end up happening though is that there will be two "bitcoins", segwit bitcoin and bitcoin unlimited bitcoin. This will make bitcoin price predictions reduntant. I would say that Segwit BTC will have a lot more support even though BU has a lot of miners behind it. Look at the amount of nodes that signals segwit support, it's not even close right now.

I would think that the total value of the two chains combined would show an increase in market cap though, as if you hold bitcoin private keys yourself you'll get both BU and BCC.
It's not absurd at all, everything is possible with bitcoins. Remember when the price was 500? it mooned to 3k, thus it was 6x gain. Right now it would need only a 5x gain so it's really realistic.
30  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: A new website for wallet ... on: June 14, 2017, 11:54:32 PM
Hello, I opened a bitcoin wallet project, for those who are tired of paying huge fees for a transaction, we are at the beginning ... and we have 15 transactions per day .. and by the end of Monday we hope to double it "Payment transaction is 0.0001 per transaction ... and we plan to remove it ... support 24 from 24 at any time can help you with details or anything else ... for more details go to website
Ok, so first of all why would anyone use your website again? I mean there's no proof that you're legit and that you will not runaway with the peoples coins. How can we be sure that we won't get scammed? You're a newbie member, you have no trust in the bitcoin world, I would be really surprised if someone uses it.

Besides that there's no way to make the fees lower. No matter what thing you're saying that you're using, no matter how many transactions per day you process you can't make the transactions get confirmed in the blocks quick with such a small fee at the moment. Of course you can send it over and eventually it will get involved in the block, but I doubt that someone will be willing to wait for days to get their transaction confirmed.
Hello, I opened a bitcoin wallet project, for those who are tired of paying huge fees for a transaction, we are at the beginning ... and we have 15 transactions per day .. and by the end of Monday we hope to double it "Payment transaction is 0.0001 per transaction ... and we plan to remove it ... support 24 from 24 at any time can help you with details or anything else .
Good luck with your project,but i would like to know how come you are able to use 0.0001 btc as transaction with the normal fees away more than that it is impossible to send the coins with that low fees,another thing is it is really difficult for you to get customers to trust your site and you have to be transparent,first create your announcement thread and lets see how things will go.
It is possible to send a transaction with the fee you want with some wallets (at least blockchain.info has this option) but the fact that you will send it doesn't mean it will get confirmed. The problem is that it might be even returned back to your wallet if it doesn't get confirmed for a really long time.
Storage data is stored on the server by different encryption methods .. some of the best ...

The fact that you're trying to brag that you have the best wallet services makes it even worse. I can almost bet this is a scam. People should be careful, remember to use only trusted services.


31  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price decreasing on: June 14, 2017, 10:48:59 PM
Would love to see price come down to 1800-2200 and consolidate for 3 months. Establish firm support before slowly rising again.
Well it would be good if the price actually consolidated though there is a possibility that it would go down even more if the eth market cap would become bigger than the bitcoins. If this happened people psychologically wouldn't be able to be in bitcoins because bitcoin would become an altcoin and eth would be the main coin. That's the main reason why I wouldn't want for bitcoin to go down even though it would give a chance to buy some cheap coins.
We all hope for 3000 for next week. This downtrend is temporary.
Believe it or not, it's not gonna happen. At least not the next week, the support is too weak at the moment and it still has to go down for a while in my opinion.

If eth wouldn't manage to overcome bitcoins over a long time then we might see a huge growth again. Especially before the halving, I wouldn't be surprised if the price went up 5x or even more.


bitcoin price is decreasing.can anyone predict how much it will decrease?

thanks

It may be decreasing for now but well all of us are used to this scenario and price movement of bitcoin. After a dump next will be pump. With the positive vibes and comments that everything is commenting here. I hope that it won't go lower than $2,000 so that there will no more panic selling. I will ride when the price increases soon.
There's nothing to hope for. There were tons of newbies coming into the crypto world during the last few weeks. Right now they are dumping their bitcoins and the thing is that they don't buy other cryptos, they just buy back their fiat.
32  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it possible for the bitcoin to lose it's value ? on: June 14, 2017, 09:51:30 PM
Hi , I'm new so basically I still have a lot to learn about the cryptocurrency , but I would like to know if it would be possible for the bitcoin to start the downfall ? I mean like what scenario can happen that the bitcoin would be pushed back like 5-6 years ?
Sorry if my post is in the wrong place or it's not relevant.
Just look at the past few days. The price of the bitcoin went down half a thousand in like a day. The thing that you must know when you get involved with bitcoins is that everything is possible and the price might go as low as back to 300 dollars in a few days easily if the massive dump starts. The price is fluctuating all the time.

I remember the day when mtgox scam happened, that was terrible. All people suddenly understood that they might lose all their savings on the exchange so they started selling it massively. Other people who saw that the price is going down started fomoing and selling it as well in order to take as small loss as possible.

To be honest at the moment, ethereum seems to be way better investment option short term. A lot of people are jumping in order to make as much profit out of it as possible, so I wouldn't be surprised if the price started going up again. Bitcoin is becoming weaker and weaker with time as eth market cap is going up.
33  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are genesis and hashflare trustable? on: June 14, 2017, 08:57:23 PM
Are genesis and hashflare trustable?
How made it untill at least break even?
I have already bougth 1TH in both cloud mining websites! So far made arround 9 dollar after 10 days in each! So 18 in total!
I never trust the cloud mining services because most of them have failed in the past and it's almost impossible to make profit with it. However, the genesis mining have kinda proved their legitimacy by showing their mining farms and stuff, so they might be legit. Though it's one of really not many cases so all in all I wouldn't recommend you to invest in it as there's a possibility that you will lose money.
Are genesis and hashflare trustable?
How made it untill at least break even?
I have already bougth 1TH in both cloud mining websites! So far made arround 9 dollar after 10 days in each! So 18 in total!
The return of investment on both sites are 1 year or even more. You can earn more if you trade alt coins. Regarding Genesis-mining and Hashflare.io legitimacy, that one is questionable if you ask me. They haven't posted anything that will prove that there really is a mining operation going on in any of their sites.
For trading altcoins you actually need to spend tons of time on research, know how the psychology of traders usually work and have balls of steel. Thus, It's tough to make profit with it while investing into cloud mining it's way easier to make money if it actually doesn't turn to a scam.
Cloudmining is not profitable because BTC mining itself is a game of very small gains. There is a reason why the mining industry is now controlled by only a few mining farms.

So dont give them your money.
Well if we take into consideration that they use those money for buying the equipment and you have to pay the fees of electricity and maintenance, it is possible that you can end up in profit. Though it might take a really long time because the fact that the difficulty will also increase over time you could need to wait for a few years.

I think it's more of the way to freeze your funds so you don't do any stupid moves with it. When you deposit it to the cloud mining services you get small amount of money every day. It's kinda like a wage.


34  Economy / Speculation / Re: Reaching 3000 usd after 3 weeks on: June 14, 2017, 01:58:42 PM
Its pretty much a good deal to sale your bitcoin guys once it reach 3k usd for 1 bitcoin, Dont waste the chance to get much money on this.
First of all I highly doubt that right now bitcoin will reach 3k as the price of ethereum had a huge pump recently. Besides that the pump was without a dump and the price doesn't seem to stop growing. It just took a little break, thus I think putting your money into ethereum right now might be a better choice of making money. Also eth has a lot of potential on overtaking bitcoins market cap during the flippening what would be terrible for the bitcoin price.

Its pretty much a good deal to sale your bitcoin guys once it reach 3k usd for 1 bitcoin, Dont waste the chance to get much money on this.

people say the same thing on nearly every price level!
it was $1000 at some point if you believe it and that point is not even ancient history yet, it was the start of this year!

and the same is true about all the other prices you come up with as a "good time to sell" price. they are all cheap prices until we reach real mass adoption and a high price near the 10K levels.
Well here you are talking about a long run hold. Of course the adoption is small at the moment and the price will be way bigger in a few years of bitcoin. But most of the people want to get rich quick and the unfortunate truth is that bitcoin cannot make you rich anymore over night. After 10 years I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches the said 10k dollars each, but most of the people don't have enough will to hold it for that long. It's better to do your research  on cryptos and which one has the highest potential to get pumped. Then throw what you can afford losing into that coin and potentially triple your money in a few days.

Its pretty much a good deal to sale your bitcoin guys once it reach 3k usd for 1 bitcoin, Dont waste the chance to get much money on this.
If you bought at 500 dollars then any price above that is a good enough price to sell, you will obtain your profits, but I do not think it is a good idea to sell your bitcoin by putting and arbitrary limit, it is better to let the market do it is thing and sell after a big bubble.
Well obviously, though I doubt that many people back then thought that the price was going to increase six times. I wouldn't be surprised if many regular people bought in at 1.5/2k price. If only there was a way to tell whether the price would grow or not. There was a decent chance that the price would come back down from 500 back to 300 again so you can never know.

Its pretty much a good deal to sale your bitcoin guys once it reach 3k usd for 1 bitcoin, Dont waste the chance to get much money on this.
I think it would be a pretty dumb idea to sell all your Bitcoin when the price reaches 3 thousand dollars. I believe that the price will continue to rise and if you only sell at 3000 dollars, you would be losing out on a lot of profit.
And why the price would go up again from 3k dollars? These are just wild speculations and I can say that the price will be dumped back to 1k which is possible if bitcoin gets overtaken by ethereum. Everything is possible and if you want sure profits with bitcoin then you have to hold in a long run. Otherwise you won't make any money out of it as it's just like gambling. Get over it
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SegWit and Hardfork on: June 14, 2017, 01:07:10 PM
Is there any difference between SegWit and hardfork or is the same term used interchangeably?
What I could researched is SegWit is about removing unnecessary information from block to make more space in a block so that it can accommodate more transaction.Is it right?
What is hard fork than and why we need both (or dont need any)
Afaik first of all segwit is not removing the unnecessary information from the block, it would just make the transactions not require the approval from the blocks in order to get confirmed. Basically there would be no need to send the transactions via the blocks and pay the massive fees as they wouldn't get filled as much. Though it should be still possible to send it over the regular way.

What hardfork means is that the blockchain of bitcoin would be split in half. There would be two different chains like it happened with ethereum after the dao attack. ETC (ethereum classic) and ETH (ethereum) was created and one etc is dominated by eth ehat would most probably happen with btc as well, one chain would die off and another would dominate. Though you shouldn't be worried about it as you would get your coins on both chains if you control your private keys. Thus, basically segwit and harfork are two different things, but it is possible that it happens one after another.

If for example on 1st August when the uasf happens for bip 148 and segwit gets implemented via the soft fork (same as hard fork: the code change, but without splitting the coin in two) and after the implementation the nodes that do not support segwit will remain ignoring it, the chain will split in two as well as the uasf nodes will stop accepting the regular nodes that don't tolerate segwit blocks. Thus a hard fork would happen.

Long story short, segwit can help with scaling bitcoin as it doesn't need the miners, hard fork is the change in code that causes the chain split, soft fork change in code that is accepted by everyone thus it doesn't split the chain. We need segwit with soft fork as the  hard fork with chain split would do a lot of harm to bitcoin.
36  Economy / Speculation / Re: Might giants of technology and online world enter Bitcoin mining? on: June 14, 2017, 12:40:06 PM
What would it take for the large and international companies to dare entering the mining business? are they waiting for $50,000 market

Price and $5000 mining cost? I honestly think they are losing on an opportunity of a life time, if they start mining today even if it costs them

$2500/BTC then 2 years from now when price hits $10,000 they could earn massive profits, talking about hundreds of millions.
Why would anyone want to jump in into mining at this moment? There's no need to do that for companies because there are way more efficient ways of earning bitcoin than mining. Getting involved in some projects like building more btc atms or accepting bitcoin as a payment method would grow their profits significantly.

Besides that we should not forget that a lot of big businesses are concentrated on usd and are doing really good. If you were a billionaire already in usd would you actually care about bitcoins that much? You would most probably just want for everything to go at the same pace at least thus you could be set for life. People who are already rich don't care about bitcoins and bitcoin is usually a way for the poor to make a huge fortune (not talking about a few rare cases like Winkelvoss brothers and so on).

Also at this time there is a competition for bitcoin which is ethereum. It might be a wiser idea to mine eth at the moment because if the "flippening" happens btc will take a huge L. Then eth price would be unstoppable as the fiat from bitcoins would be moved to eth by a lot of users. So if you mine up a lot of eth now you might become more rich than with btc.

They have the power to create their own coin that could be bigger than Bitcoin or choose a coin that would give more advantages to them(less market cap, easier to be centralized, etc..) and pump it.

Mine Bitcoin would be willingly give others power.
Well if they would put in their own capital in it, then yes it might be bigger than bitcoin, but if it depended on people I really doubt that it could overtake btc. I mean why would anyone buy some shitty company coin that would be most probably centralized and controlled by that company when you have eth and btc? It just doesn't make any sense.

it is not just about the bitcoin price and being a giant, the investment needs to yield a good profit after the costs. and one of the main and biggest costs of mining is the electricity cost.

most of these miners that you see are in China are there because they were able to acquire 3 things: cheap electricity contracts + cheap and easily obtainable mining equipment + cheap labor.
Well if you have enough funds you can always make profit out of it. Just invest into tons of mining equipment and if you have a massive rig it will eventually overcome the price of electricity and in the long run would give big profit. And assuming that big companies can afford it, theoretically they could make big profit.


37  Economy / Speculation / Re: IT'S ALL GOOD on: June 13, 2017, 12:45:29 AM
I Just bought Bitcoin at a lower price! Bitcoin is resilient. What goes up, goes down... goes back up!

Bitcoin was at this morning's volume only 5 DAYS AGO! - Waiting it out.

Nope, it's not all good for sure. The market cap difference between bitcoin and ethereum is only 7 billions at the moment. And the more time passes the closer it gets. I wouldn't be surprised if ethereum surpasses bitcoin in like a day or so. Of course it's a good idea to buy bitcoins still because there are a lot of money invested in bitcoin infrastructure and it can't just evaporate. If it happened those millionaires would take a huge loss. So in the long run it is definitely going to come back.
I Just bought Bitcoin at a lower price! Bitcoin is resilient. What goes up, goes down... goes back up!

Bitcoin was at this morning's volume only 5 DAYS AGO! - Waiting it out.


Are you doubting whether or not you made a good deal?

If you bought it for $2600, well just wait to rise more... overall it depends on how much profit you want to reach

Is there a limit on how much profit you want to get? that's kinda bullshit, I've never thought about it in such way because you always want to get more and more money out of your investment

I don't know if it's actually the best idea to invest in bitcoins right now because there will be a massive price drop when eth market cap is going to become massive. Right now it seems to be that bitcoin might take a huge L when eth because stronger and stronger.


Its been a while since we seen the last dip. It is good if you caught the 2400+ dip, I think you will have a good profit from it if you hold it for a while.
Or the price is going to come back down and continue dropping. You can never know.

The fact that we haven't seen a dip in a while doesn't mean anything. Eth is growing nonstop for a while and it didn't have a dip, besides that it doesn't show any signs of stopping and going the strongest from all the coins.
38  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ? on: June 13, 2017, 12:12:31 AM
Its not risky to invest money in bitcoin if you have skill of investment that how to invest and in which time to invest.and risk will occur in this case   If you have no skill of investment that will be more risky. And there flutuation if we invest all money in bitcoin and in case of more flactuation the price wil be come decrease that will more risky.

Anybody can be risky in investing, even if you are an experienced and highly skilled person, because the crypto market is a chain that is unevenly distributed, we can not guess the main what exactly will happen?
It depends on what are you trying to achieve with your investment. If it's a short term one then it might be risky because as like right now, the price has dropped from 3k to 2.3k what would mean a huge loss. Though if you are a long term thinker then you shouldn't worry about it because the price bounces back all the time no matter what and you would end up in profit at some point. You might need to wait for a few year, but I think it's worth it.
Every investment is a risk, so it's Bitcoin. Depends how much you can and are willing to put on risk and you have to country on volatility. It's similar like you invest in stock exchange, gold or something similar, no one can't guarantee you the profit. But the less risky is on the long term basist and if you have some funds you don't need I definetely suggest investing in Bitcoins.
At this point there's no risk because the bitcoin is going to come back sooner or later. I wouldn't be surprised if it touches 3k again in like one week or so. Though if I wanted to invest into something today I would definitely go with ethereum because of all the fomoing happening at the moment. To be honest the idea that bitcoin might become the alternative cryptocurrency is a little bit scary.
Depending on how much is bitcoins when you get in,bitcoins at 500$ mark has less risk of holding unlike what we have right now at $2700 mark stable.Its risky because anytime bitcoins price may fall down due to volatility Smiley
It does not mean that the price is going to go up if the price is actually down. If there's no interest in the coin it doesn't matter whether the price is higher or lower it won't grow and potentially will be dumped at some point. However, bitcoin will always have people interested in it so if you really believe in it then just buy in and hold long term.


39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: It does appear.. ETH will 10 fold BTC market cap with in the year... on: June 12, 2017, 11:15:52 PM
So Ether's market cap will be 450 000 000 000$ by the end of the year?

Please explain why you think so?
Naah it won't happen. At least not in the upcoming year. For that to happen the market cap of eth should increase 4 times more than the total amount invested in the cryptocurrencies. There should be some heavy investing from governments and banks in order for it to be possible. However, the fact that eth is going to surpass bitcoin is inevitable. It's just crazy to think that bitcoin will not be the main currency like bitcoin is going to be the alt from then on. I can already imagine the news articles like "Bitcoin Decrowned by Ethereum", "Is it the end for bitcoin?", "Bitcoin is dead, long live ethereum" and so on. It's a little bit sad because if I want to use cryptos I will have to choose eth and the problem is that I don't believe in it's idea :/

Half a trillion dollars or so of pure hot air? I'd be rather more worried about climate change than my Bitcoin withering.
Well no one is saying that it is going to disappear, but the fact that it is going to go down is definite. And when you take into consideration that there will be governments pouring money into it and tons of app creators it is kinda possible, though not in just a year as I said. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens in like 3 years if the pace is going to continue like that.
40  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoins and Bankers on: June 12, 2017, 10:28:51 PM
Hello All,

I'm new to crypto but not new to the banking/gov game.

What are you thoughts on the bankers/gov potentially controlling Bitcoin behind the scenes putting on a show oh how they are concerned about it? 

They can print the fiat to buy bitcoins.
Its the electronic money/world currency they are so thirsty for.
The NSA has supposedly a back door to all our devices.

I think if bitcoin is the new banker currency it will explode higher as 7.5 billion people vs 21 million bitcoins means $$$$ to the early holders.
If Bitcoin is the alternative to the bankers/gov then it will explode higher as well due to the high percentage of people who want to be free from them.

Anyone who has attempted to not use the dollar Ghadaffi (gold Dinar) - Saddam (oil for Euros)  have met a swift end. 

Why are they not stopping (possible jail threats) it when they have shown they will go to extreme measures to stop competition.

Either way I see it going higher i'm just trying to get my head around why it has not been stopped. 

Thoughts?
Well I used to think that there might be an involvement of banks in bitcoins in order to make it go down. As you said the fed can print as much money as they want thus increasing the us debt (which they don't care about at all) and buy bitcoins endlessly. What they could do after a major increase like we see now is just dump all those bitcoins in order to make people scared of losing money. And that is what is happening at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an involvement of fed in it.

Ouch. That's complicated. First they can never print paper money (fiat) to grab some bitcoin from the market. If they do this, the fiat money gets worthless.
Well duh, that is what's happening for years already. Haven't you ever heard about the inflation of usd? Basically why they're printing money is to bail out the banks and pay the debts that they already have. BUT what's happening is that they go into even deeper debt then and inflate their own currency. It's just fucking ridiculous Cheesy this whole system is gonna fall apart in a few years, you'll see.

What I find interesting though is that ethereum is having a huge pump at the moment. It is most probably going to surpass bitcoin in the upcoming few days and it can be regulated way easier. Could that be the actual plan of the governments and banks? To eliminate the main opposition of bitcoin and then bring up the ethereum? Because I mean it's kinda clear that after eth passes bitcoin in market cap btc will have a huge dump
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