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21  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation on: September 27, 2012, 09:14:23 PM
Isn't liberty great?  Gavin can make a Bitcoin Foundation, and people can join, or not, as serves their interests.
Well put.
If you don't like, don't join. It is very simple. Everyone is free to form their own foundation.
I really don't understand the hate.


THE Bitcoin Foundation.

The name alone sounds very authoritarian. It seems to me they want sole control over the network.

They came with the name first, that's it. Or do you object "bitcointalk" as well? Aren't we allowed to talk about bitcoins anywhere but on this forum?
22  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation on: September 27, 2012, 08:35:21 PM
Any plan to send a confirmation message to new members by email and confirm reception of coins?

23  Economy / Lending / Re: (URGENT) Seeking 18.6 BTC Loan will repay 21BTC in 14 days or less on: September 27, 2012, 08:40:56 AM
Hello everyone very plainly I experienced a death in my family less than a day ago and I have been trying to travel across country but I am short on funds another member on here was gracious enough to help me out but only had so much to lend. Now I need the final part of the loan so I can travel from the Midwest to the west coast ASAP I will submit to what ever verification that you may need with no problem!

Isn't that thread about you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110435.0
24  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 26, 2012, 02:01:35 PM
More payments sent out.

I have received the rest of my principal (thus making this a 0% loan for 8.5 weeks) today (~24 BTC received).

For completeness, I must add that this happened after three personal messages from me to HashKing received no answers from him (I tried to settle his debt in a civil way). This may be a coincidence, as he told me today I was next in line anyway, but I received my coins back right after I informed him about the criminal charges (theft) I have filed against him. I will not pursue this path since the issue is now moot.

In case it helps others know where they stand, my deposit was number 516, made on July 27 for 8 weeks at 1.9%/week.

Case closed as far as I am concerned.
25  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Flying Dutchman Bitcoin Fund - Completely Transparent on: September 23, 2012, 08:40:36 PM
8.69197428 BTC paid over 5578 shares.
Payment a share 0.00155826 BTC.

Confirmed, thanks!
26  Economy / Goods / Re: I will show you how to trade bitcoins with PayPal *WITHOUT* risk of disputes! on: September 21, 2012, 11:29:30 AM
Have you ever wanted to become a bitcoin trader and make a sizable commission on each order?

But there's always the risk of chargebacks and disputes. I've exclusively discovered a method which uses secondary markets to allow you to trade with Paypal without the risk of chargebacks...

You will not be accepting the paypal payments.. someone else who is selling a digital product is! The digital product does not lose it's value being resold, and you can easily resell the digital product the bitcoin buyer just bought back to another trader.

You forgot to add "and if this trader uses the same method as you did before, you may now be the target of a chargeback by someone you didn't even know existed, because it is not the trader you're sending the digital product to who is sending you money via paypal and is now attempting to defraud you".

Nice scam.
27  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Selling my religion on: September 21, 2012, 11:22:04 AM
Hi folks,

why bother what to do with your bitcoins?
Why invest it in high risk funds serving criminals or for the worse, guys with financial expertise?

You can make a change!
Buy my religion and invest in salvation of my soul.

Currently i'm not believing in god. The highest bidder wins this religious race and can change my belief.

Dank, is that you? Smiley
28  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Violating its TOS and Possible Laws depending on country of Origin on: September 21, 2012, 11:19:21 AM
Per GLBSE own TOS https://www.glbse.com/info/terms

8. The Exchange may at its discretion ask asset creators to provide proof of identity, address, phone number, or any other information as deemed appropriate. Said information will be held securely offline and not shared with any third party.

So GLBSE violated its own TOS by Releasing his ID.

You are hereby assuming that Nefario has no other permission to release Alberto's documents and received them in the scope of GLBSE with no extra permission, so GLBSE TOS must apply. This may be the case, but this may also not be. Only Nefario, Alberto and possible witnesses know in which context and under what conditions this documents transmission took place and what rules govern their release.
29  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Flying Dutchman Bitcoin Fund - Completely Transparent on: September 21, 2012, 08:57:07 AM
I'd buy a block of 100 shares at 0.135 BTC per share by private transfer (you pay the transfer fee) if I get a proposal within 24 hours. Even with the fee (0.2% of the 5 days average trade price), this is still above the NAV and thus should help it get up if those are sold by the fund owners.
30  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud — A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 20, 2012, 08:23:43 PM
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Sure, that would be great.  The best choice would be our lead engineer in Paris, France or me.  I'm based out of Kansas City, Missouri.  Either of us would be happy to give you a quick demo when the product is ready for review.

I had a look at LinkedIn to check if the "lead engineer in Paris" happens to be a former student of mine, but I could not find anyone listing "Butterfly Labs" or "ButterflyLabs" as their company. Do they run by another name?

BF Labs, Inc.

I haven't been luckier with this one.
31  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud — A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 20, 2012, 07:37:31 PM
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Sure, that would be great.  The best choice would be our lead engineer in Paris, France or me.  I'm based out of Kansas City, Missouri.  Either of us would be happy to give you a quick demo when the product is ready for review.

I had a look at LinkedIn to check if the "lead engineer in Paris" happens to be a former student of mine, but I could not find anyone listing "Butterfly Labs" or "ButterflyLabs" as their company. Do they run by another name?
32  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Proposal to help stop thieves on: September 20, 2012, 06:52:52 PM
There are problems without clean, elegant solutions. For these problems, you use several solution which don't eliminate the problem but hopefully lessen it. That's all I am talking about. Optional blacklisting will not stop thefts. Together with other measures, it will make thefts more difficult. Why not try it? It should be easy to implement. Instead of arguing, let's just try it. You think it won't work, great. Let's try it.

Please go ahead. Go through the bitcoins in your own wallet, and check to see if any bit of them relates to the various thefts related on the forum (you can find the transaction id in many cases). Note it can take a long time doing so, as it will require that you go up the transaction chain (each transaction having one or more inputs) until you hit either the coinbase (zero input) or a transaction that uses stolen funds.

By doing so, you should get an idea of the work it represents to do that for every transaction. And maybe you will identify some stolen satoshis (if that ever makes sense in a fungible currency) in some of your wallet inputs, and you will throw those transactions away to avoid using stolen funds.

Oh, and you haven't considered this case: S come from stolen funds, C are clean funds, S+C are sent in one transaction as T (the sender does not have the same blacklist as you do) and thus tainted flagged by your client, so T is sent back (because you can no longer distinguish S from C since those outputs are now spent) as U, and now U is unusable as well because it got tainted by S. As a result, now more funds are marked as unusable by you and those using the same blacklist.

Chances are that f you do the test with your wallet and all the known stolen funds, you will throw away (or at least refuse to use)) your whole wallet.
33  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Proposal to help stop thieves on: September 20, 2012, 05:09:55 PM
Blocking the coins makes no sense in many scenarios:
  • If the coins are reused before being signaled as stolen, an innocent person will suffer from having received worthless coins before it was known that they were worthless. And you cannot distinguish between coins having been moved by the thief in his own wallet from coins having been used to pay a service or a good, so as soon as the coins have been moved, you can no longer blacklist them.
  • If the coins have been sent through a mixer, then you will now blacklist any output which contains even one satoshi from the stolen coins.
  • You can attack someone by convincing people that 1 BTC mixed with their 10,000 BTC has been stolen, thus rendering the whole 10,000 BTC worthless.

Can't you see the dozens of way your proposal could go wrong?
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We should not try to get legality for Bitcoin... on: September 20, 2012, 01:05:16 PM
Citation from the last conference material (http://shadowlife.cc/files/btcotc.pdf (slide #18)):

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We should not try to get legality for Bitcoin, we should not ask the state to resolve conflicts in the community.

What should we do then?

I can see why people hoarding lots of bitcoins do not want to check the exact status of what they own. If, for example, bitcoins are deemed worthless by a US judge, those persons have a lot to lose if they are not able to sell their "fortune" before the panic starts. This is precisely why even people who lost a lot of money with pirateat40 still haven't sued him.

However, small bitcoin owners and newcomers have a real interest in having the status of bitcoins tested and clarified before they buy more bitcoins. But since those people also have lost nothing or not much in the various scams, because they had less to invest to begin with, they are unlikely to press charges.

Having the status of bitcoins clarified in a major country could seal the destiny, good or bad, of bitcoin as a currency. However, it looks like people with large bitcoin wallets are not confident enough that the outcome would be pleasant Smiley
35  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: iamtheone setup long con with semi casino style games across the board then ran on: September 19, 2012, 10:34:49 AM
He scammed at least $400, but it seems it's not enough to get a scammer tag. Tongue

Or maybe the mods came into his threads very early on and told everyone not to send him any money and y'all got what you had coming to you.

As far as I am concerned, the scammer tag would be most useful to warn people about not sending money to this now dead scam. Contrary to most scams, those do not require that you register prior to being scammed, everything is automated, so newcomers are at risk, as are unregistered people.

If the moderators were to obfuscate the addresses to send the bitcoins to in the first post of the three running scam threads (lottery, invest, poker fund), it would even be more useful than putting the scammer tag on the account.
36  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: ★ VESCUDERO's Risk-free Weekly Term deposits at 1.5% ★ [Full capacity] on: September 19, 2012, 10:24:55 AM
I assume coins have been fully distributed yet? 

are any other creditors owed coin by Vescudero?

Why don't you just look at the first post of this very thread and look at the list? You'll see that Victor still takes care of 1718.96 BTC, and you will even get the list of people that trust Victor enough not to have withdrawn their funds yet. You will also have the list of people that have successfully dealt with Victor in the past, as well as the amount withdrawn and the corresponding dates.

Micon, in case you have not noticed, this board is not write-only, you are allowed to read before you write.
37  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: iamtheone setup long con with semi casino style games across the board then ran on: September 19, 2012, 10:02:50 AM
Please give him the scammer tag as soon as possible. The sending address for supposedly automated rewards is still published as the first post in every thread, which means he may still be receiving money from this.

Also, providing any connection info about this individual would help identifying him.
38  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Electrum - a new thin client on: September 19, 2012, 08:42:29 AM
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And why did you call the directory "lib" instead of "electrum" in the first place? This would avoid the need for all this "try..except ImportError" stuff.

lol. because that filename was already taken Smiley

It would make more sense IMO to rename "electrum" into "electrum.py" and "lib/" to "electrum/". The main executable can be renamed to "electrum" while installing it.
39  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum - Bitcoin client for the common users (friendly and instant) on: September 19, 2012, 08:39:30 AM
Sure thing, but please note that master is overall considered unstable. So most of the time bug reports like these are not needed until the release is merged into a stable branch and ready for testing.

Maybe you should adopt the same terminology and branch naming as most software around here:
  • the "master" branch always compile, but is not well tested enough to be deemed stable for everyday use
  • release branches are created from time to time from the master branch when developers think master is stable enough; they are thoroughly tested; when a point fix for a release (maybe leading to a minor release) is committed into the release branch, this branch is then merged immediately into the master branch to acquire the fix there as well, or to make git record that the fix is not needed in the master branch so that it doesn't propose to merge it again later
  • feature branches are used to develop features that might temporarily break working code or that are unfinished, and those are merged into the master branch when they are ready to be tested

Sticking to this well-known scheme also helps you test the new features once they are incorporated into the master branch, as, for example, some ArchLinux users will install "electrum-git" instead of "electrum". By doing so, they acknowledge that they want to use the current development version with a certain possibility of breakage, and will allow you to fix bugs before they go into a release.

You should have a look at git flow, which is both a model and a tool. It helps developing software in a collaborative way and sticks to the above-described invariants (master contains all the fixes from release branches and always compiles, releases aren't touched except for fixing bugs leading to minor releases, feature branches allow early testing of potentially breaking or bad changes).
40  Economy / Lending / Re: 2000-4000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge on: September 17, 2012, 05:56:21 PM
It's clear you both don't even know what you do and don't believe.  I never said I'd substitute hard work for belief, it takes both.  It's worked for me so far, hasn't it?

IT has worked for you, I was just reading in a newspaper about the power of Dank's positive thought, it was actually very cool how you got that $10M loan, someone bought you a car and you became a famous rock star, just a week for this to come to fruition huh?
I was going to reply to this, then I decided not to.

So why did you?
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