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Excellent! Replied to your PM with my address, now I just need yours.
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Proposal #1: ...invest 300 BTC into GIPPT...
Proposal #2: ...3-5% exposure to pirate...
//DeaDTerra
Proposal #1: I vote YES (It's something you have your thumb on, and control to a large extent) Proposal #2: I vote NO ( I feel it's not why I find the Gamma fund useful. You're giving us analysis & diversity, but most importantly: (a) access to equity we wouldn't have access to as individual investors, and (b) some freedom from complete exposure to GLBSE as a point of failure (via intelligent diversity) If I wanted to invest directly in Pirate, I'd use Bitcoinmax and regulate my overall percent exposure that way. After seeing those points I agree, YES to GIPPT NO to uninsured pirate. Okay maybe I should explain my path of thought ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The constant price increase makes people avoid buying shares on GLBSE, as buying shares on GLBSE becomes like kind of a shorting. When the USD price increases the GLBSE turns bearish as mentioned previously. I won't go in to the details but anyone that has observed the GLBSE market knows this. When the Bitcoin price increase the GLBSE share prices decrease. No in a 1:1 ratio but still enough for GBF to feel the downward trend of the share prices. This is fine for anyone that want to gain USD as the ratio is not 1:1, you still gain net value in USD. But for us BTC savers, it's bad as the share prices lose value in BTC. This leads to a hill I have to climb every time the price increases, as our portfolio value decreases. I have tried liquidating but as mentioned previously due to the bearish market and out big investments (we are huge compared to the average trader on GLBSE), liquidating is hard and slow. Hence I want to move into stable bonds/deposits which are not effected by the market. Most of these are somehow connected to pirate, unfortunately and to counter act the dropping GLBSE market, I was thinking if we invest a couple of percent then we can counter act the lose of portfolio value. But it's up to you guys ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I will keep doing my best with what I have. //DeaDTerra Up to you! I could go either way, but I think that the majority of people will at the least support the GIPPT idea. It does suck to lose coins in the fund ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) , maybe just have the direct pirate exposure of 3-5% very temporary?
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Proposal #1: ...invest 300 BTC into GIPPT...
Proposal #2: ...3-5% exposure to pirate...
//DeaDTerra
Proposal #1: I vote YES (It's something you have your thumb on, and control to a large extent) Proposal #2: I vote NO ( I feel it's not why I find the Gamma fund useful. You're giving us analysis & diversity, but most importantly: (a) access to equity we wouldn't have access to as individual investors, and (b) some freedom from complete exposure to GLBSE as a point of failure (via intelligent diversity) If I wanted to invest directly in Pirate, I'd use Bitcoinmax and regulate my overall percent exposure that way. After seeing those points I agree, YES to GIPPT NO to uninsured pirate.
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Hmm... well I'm handling my pirate exposure separately than GBF (by mostly investing in your GIPPT xD and a few other places). However 3-5% isn't much.
I guess I don't really have an opinion on this one, with some pirate exposure it's still a safe fund, just keep it low xD.
As for the 300BTC into GIPPT, I'm worried enough already about the insurance being in pirate... On the flip side 300btc from the entire fund is not really a HUGE deal, and if you are 100% confident in our insurance then go for it I suppose.
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No one is buying :O, I was expecting more nyan.c snatching initially.
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Okay giving that a try then ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Hopefully he's quick to respond! EDIT: If anyone else wants to take up on the offer feel free to however, idc who lends it to me, I'll edit the OP if hashking gets back to me timely enough.
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I figured I didn't have the standing credit to get a loan from him lol, I'll look into it.
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Hello! Looking to move some of my bitcoin assets into a new IPO on the GLBSE while the share prices are still awesome, unfortunately part of my assets are locked up with hashking. Fortunately this also means that you will know the exact date you will be paid! The 4.16325 I'll get from this account next Tuesday is yours THAT day. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2F103c0lw.png&t=663&c=-rbG9CLPxfDQQA) In need of the loan fairly quickly other wise I'm going to just forget this little experimental investment (hence only 4 coins lol) EDIT: LOAN GIVEN BY waltmarkersThank you
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So why is there a ticker for NYAN? Will it pay any sort of dividend?
Yes. NYAN will pay the dividends it receives from holding NYAN.A, NYAN.B, and NYAN.C. CPA will seed NYAN A, B and C with 500 bitcoins each, and A, B and C will transfer 500 shares each to NYAN, and NYAN will transfer 1500 shares to CPA. So in short there will be no management fee for NYAN since the management fee will be taken by the holders of CPA as CPA will own 100% of NYAN. Then we will sell shares into the market. We are doing it this way to show we have a stable business model. In short, even if no one buys any shares we will still make money. this business is not dependant on investor capital. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
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So why is there a ticker for NYAN? Will it pay any sort of dividend?
Dividends will be paid weekly. But what dividend does NYAN pay? NYAN = ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) NYAN.A = 0.01 NYAN.B = 0.02 + leftover from NYAN.A NYAN.C = high risk 0.07+
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If there are enough bids, what's the minimum price the shares will be sold into? 1.00? 1.02? Something else entirely? Thanks for the information ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The Initial Share price will be 1 BTC per bond or are you asking something else?
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So why is there a ticker for NYAN? Will it pay any sort of dividend?
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You're betting that there won't be a default before the interest you've accumulated equals the premium that you paid. Depending on how you calculate it, that's between 12 and 20 weeks.
... and goat is betting that there will be a pirate default before the accumulated interest equals the premium that you paid. Caveat emptor. edit: OK, I take that back. It's not quite that simple. Goat can structure this to make a profit with or without a pirate default. Was just about to correct ya then saw your edit xD. Looks like there would be some demand... I personally will be sticking with the GIPPT because well... 100% insurance. Although being able to view the escrow coins is attractive. EDIT: mixed feelings about this as well, does this show confidence in pirate or a lack of?
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Yay! My friggin GLBSE balance won't update fast enoughhhh ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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FINAL VERSION: This will be sent to GLBSE in a few hours. ...
Where is it mannn I've been watching all morning xD Damn dude... It's been 11 minutes. 01:16:17 AM
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FINAL VERSION: This will be sent to GLBSE in a few hours. ...
Where is it mannn I've been watching all morning xD
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Hooray! Is the investor log updated? My balance hasn't changed.
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I have no problems with using the Gamma name elsewhere.
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