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21  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: January 14, 2016, 05:19:18 AM
I think the best way to earn bitcoins is to offer products and services and accept payment for them in bitcoin.
Second, is buy them
Third, work and get paid with them
And at the end, mining them.
22  Economy / Securities / Re: Where to invest my bitcoins?? on: January 12, 2016, 04:57:04 AM
Hello

I would suggest to invest on our IPO, a fresh vegetable company that is well established and is looking for bitcoin to grow its production and to start working with it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1319149.0
23  Local / Mercado y Economía / [MONTECRISTO] Agroindustrias Montecristo SA de CV - productor de vegetales on: January 12, 2016, 03:14:51 AM
Hola! Les invito a conocer a nuestra empresa y a participar en el IPO de ella.

Pueden ver el hilo aqui:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1319149.0

Por favor, pongan sus comentarios y dudas en inglés ahi, o en español aca.

Gracias!
24  Economy / Securities / Re: [MONTECRISTO] Agroindustrias Montecristo SA de CV - fresh vegetables producer on: January 12, 2016, 03:08:33 AM
Our company have good experience in producing crops, and also with green houses. This are some of our fields and products.

Red pepper



Cucumbers



One of our Green houses
25  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 10, 2016, 11:51:44 AM
Hello.

I updated the first post on the forum adding all the information you asked for.

Please review it. Thank you

Proof of registration, your personal verifiable data, collateral, etc. You need much more effort for people to invest into something like that.
26  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 10, 2016, 04:24:06 AM
We are going to set the IPO price with a 30% discount, only until next January, Saturday 16, 2016, limited to 10,000 shares, so if you are interested in investing in us, you have time to review our documentation and ask any question you have.

Thank you for your confidence!
27  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 10, 2016, 04:07:24 AM
Hello

I updated the info in the first post, please check it. It has now information about our company, and balance reports, official documentation on Mexico, formats for tax payer in US and other information.
28  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 10, 2016, 12:45:17 AM
Hello,

I'd like to learn more about this...

1. I'm interested to buy some. What happens if you cant sell them all? Would you give the money back?

It depends on the amount. If we can do something with the funds, then the funds will be used, if not, we are considering waiting some more time, or buying back shares.

2. What will be the name (code) of the this token?

We think in two, AGRO and MONTECRISTO, it will depend on which market the shares will start. I think it will be MONTECRISTO on counterparty, because other markets are not answering their emails.


3. Will the negotiation be available in what plataform? What Exchanges will have bids and asks with this token?

Maybe counterparty, maybe Litecoininvest, maybe Havelock. Do you have any other suggestion?


4. Will the amount of tokens be fixed forever or will it grow with mining (like BTCs or subscriptions)?

Will be fixed.


5. It's not clear for me how "dividends" of this enterprise will be sent to me. Would those be sent to my bitcoin wallet? What would be the frequency of those payments, monthly? And, in which form, BTC or bit"i choose"?

If the symbol is out on counterparty then the dividends will be sent directly to your bitcoin wallet. We think that monthly or quarterly is good for us, and for our investors.


6. Where will be located those tokens?


If I understand well, this is the same as in which market. So  the answer is the same as #2


7. Do you have numbers or projections such as net margins, revenues or anything like that?

Yes, of course! this is not the first time we produce fresh vegetables, we have margins and past results, that will be posted on our website pretty soon (and the site is already out, but still only in Spanish)


8. Have you ever try getting in to https://cyber.fund/radar ?

I tried but it didn't answer me, only a blank page is shown.
29  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 10, 2016, 12:38:52 AM
Hello

Warren Buffet has this related stocks:

DE Sector:   Industrial Goods Industry:   Farm & Construction Machinery
KHC Sector:   Consumer Goods Industry:   Food - Major Diversified

Maybe he has not directly invested on producers because one mantra of him is to only invest in whatever he understand well.

The short answer is: yes.

While it is with green houses, yes, because it is a controlled environment, from humidity, temperature, irrigation, and other factors.

A crop of cucumber on open field produces about 80-100 tons, and with green house about 140-180 tons. (per cycle of 3 months)

Also crops are higher quality on green houses, because they require less chemicals, so the price in the market is better.

The cost of production on open field is US$10,000, and on green house US$13,000, while the return for open field is US$110,000 and green house is US$200,000

You may be asking why we are looking for investment if we produce that type of returns, well it is simple, we want to start the use of bitcoin in all the economic cycle. We already talked with Monsanto, and they agreed to sell the seeds and accept bitcoin payment, also talked with other providers with same results. And our customer also agreed to pay us with bitcoin. We think this way we can set a precedent for bitcoin companies that do global commerce.


So you are saying that investin in cucumber gime me 1000% per year?

1000% and why Warren Buffet does'n bought cucumber yet?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked


30  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 09, 2016, 12:37:32 PM
The short answer is: yes.

While it is with green houses, yes, because it is a controlled environment, from humidity, temperature, irrigation, and other factors.

A crop of cucumber on open field produces about 80-100 tons, and with green house about 140-180 tons. (per cycle of 3 months)

Also crops are higher quality on green houses, because they require less chemicals, so the price in the market is better.

The cost of production on open field is US$10,000, and on green house US$13,000, while the return for open field is US$110,000 and green house is US$200,000

You may be asking why we are looking for investment if we produce that type of returns, well it is simple, we want to start the use of bitcoin in all the economic cycle. We already talked with Monsanto, and they agreed to sell the seeds and accept bitcoin payment, also talked with other providers with same results. And our customer also agreed to pay us with bitcoin. We think this way we can set a precedent for bitcoin companies that do global commerce.


So you are saying that investin in cucumber gime me 1000% per year?
31  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 08, 2016, 11:50:06 PM
A crop of cucumber on open field produces about 80-100 tons, and with green house about 140-180 tons. (per cycle of 3 months)

Also crops are higher quality on green houses, because they require less chemicals, so the price in the market is better.

The cost of production on open field is US$10,000, and on green house US$13,000, while the return for open field is US$110,000 and green house is US$200,000

You may be asking why we are looking for investment if we produce that type of returns, well it is simple, we want to start the use of bitcoin in all the economic cycle. We already talked with Monsanto, and they agreed to sell the seeds and accept bitcoin payment, also talked with other providers with same results. And our customer also agreed to pay us with bitcoin. We think this way we can set a precedent for bitcoin companies that do global commerce.
32  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 08, 2016, 11:26:47 PM
This is the physical characteristics of the green house installation



This is the example pictures of the green house


33  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 08, 2016, 11:15:54 PM
Hello

Thanks for your comments. About them, I want to reply:


First: Website is out.
Yes, as I wrote in first post, we are finishing it. We expect to have it finished and published before Monday

So, you are looking for 1.000BTC  but you say you start at 25% or 200BTC. So you found the rest of investement by yourself?
No, we made best path and worst path, we CAN do something with 25% of the total funds, but not less. I will include more information about all our project.


Then, i live in south of italy. My grandpa and my grandma  work in agriculture. I have some hectares.  Here, in Italy , build up an Hectar of cucumber costs less than 1000 euro per year, and italy is more than 10 times expensive than mexico, so your number was really out.
Well, first we are talking about greenhouse cucumber operations in Mexico, vs not greenhouse in Italy. They are very different, because greenhouse construction is a lot more expensive than standard crops.

Also production is a lot bigger, about 10 times more in the same time.

Then, we have plans to build 2 hydroponic greenhouses of about 10,381.80 m2, that is about 2 hectare

We quoted this model: GC-3000-VF-CA2
The quote round total cost of the green houses is MXN$ 5 million, that is about US$277,000, so we are not asking for full investment, just a part of it.

I work in my shop over 12 hours per day. Here you could find other user that work on pc about 24 hours per day. I think you will go away with first BTC you receive.Before try to scam anyone, think some minutes.

Then, close this post and don't spend the name of Eco frutas LLC. And Agroindustrias Montecristo SA for your scamming purpose.

I respect your opinion, you are in your right and you SHOULD have doubts of every project, not only on bitcoin, but on any other place, like wall street market.

On the other side, we are open to disclose enough information to our investors, we have nothing to hide. We have tax forms on Mexico and US, the quote of the project, the GPS localization of our land, pictures of our current greenhouses, pictures of our products, national identification of us, link to the government sites where our company is registered, and if that is not enough, we can talk to provide more details.

34  Economy / Securities / Re: [AGRO] Agroindustrias Montecristo S.A. de C.V. - fresh vegetables producer on: January 08, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
Thank you for your comments.

Yes, we know that. We are finishing the page, and there we are going to upload our documentation, that includes tax payer reports, from Mexico and from USA, income reports, the information about our land, pictures of our greenhouses.


Proof of registration, your personal verifiable data, collateral, etc. You need much more effort for people to invest into something like that.
35  Economy / Securities / [MONTECRISTO] Agroindustrias Montecristo SA de CV - fresh vegetables producer on: January 08, 2016, 07:06:07 AM
Hello! We are starting our work with Bitcoin and launching a share to fund a new expansion program.

Eco frutas LLC. And Agroindustrias Montecristo SA de CV produces and markets fresh vegetables to Mexico, the US and Europe. We produce most of them in greenhouses, with high quality and high production rate.

Our Mission

  • Produce and market fresh vegetables of the highest quality to satisfy the needs of our customers, fulfilling the goals of shareholder return.
  • Being at the forefront in the use of the best technologies to be productive and competitive suppliers relying on the same philosophy as us.
  • Keep sources of decent employment for their work and income equally, promoting the integral development of our staff.
  • Meet our fiscal obligations to contribute to the development of our country.

About us

Eco frutas LLC. And Agroindustrias Montecristo SA de CV arise from the evolution and modernization of Huitzil Cuamatla SPRL de CV which was founded in September of 1925 in the old Merced Market in Mexico City, which will soon celebrate 90 years of hard generational work and carrying out the dream of a pioneer in the agricultural industry of the country, all founder Simeon Huitzil Cuamatla left us a legacy to carry out all our values ​​and principles.

Currently Eco frutas LLC. And Agroindustrias Montecristo SA de CV are in a process of modernization and modernization of the entire production area and the area of ​​development, national and international competitiveness has led to seek ways of continuous improvement and certification of international associations.

In the area of ​​product storage it has been carried I finish a modernization of 2 cellars, the packaging and the distribution in the United States.

Montecristo has just added 50 hectares to the production area which will provide tomato and cucumber for the 3 markets (national, TLC, Europe). Making a total of 275 Ha for open sky this cycle from 2010 to 2011, and excluding hectares that has to greenhouse which has put us on the threshold of a new horizon.

The creation of Eco frutas LLC. McAllen, Texas opened the doors again to the European market thanks to the quality of our products has allowed us position a niche market highly competitive yet high-volume, being why to meet this demand and living the current situation of world markets, develop a support plan for the farmer we buy their products with a guaranteed price determined by the standards of production costs which allow us to help the farmer to further optimize production resources where the benefit will be seen reflected in the producer's pocket.

At present for decisions on behalf of the company was determined to move offices to the city of Mexico to make better use of the opportunities for development of new products, such as certified organic production and exploitation of by-products such as organic, canned, frozen and dried.

Our team

Jose Antonio Hernandez Huitzil, CEO
Yolanda Huitzil, CAO
Julio Hernandez Huitzil is in charge of Production
Jaime Hernandez Huitzil is in charge of packaging and quality

Information online and trading

Our (in development) website: https://agroindustriasmontecristo.com
Our ticker in Counterparty https://blockscan.com/assetInfo/MONTECRISTO, https://counterpartychain.io/asset/MONTECRISTO
Our ticker: https://litecoininvest.com/security/AGRO (not working, maybe will be removed in the future if counterparty works well)

You can trade us online with counterwallet: https://counterwallet.io
Or using the Android App https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=inc.lireneosoft.counterparty
There is also iOS app, but is not in the store, more info here: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/mobile-counterparty-wallet-is-available-for-both-android-and-ios

Our goal for this share issue

We want to build a greenhouses for the production of cucumber. We want to reach about US$ 200,000.00, and we want to get the funds in Bitcoin. We can start working with only 25% (about 200BTC) of the total amount, but to reach max potential we require the full investment.

We are launching about 200,000 shares that are about 6% of our company if valuated at US$ 1.00 per share. We are looking to launch part of the shares on LitecoinInvest, and other part in other markets in the future if the shares on LCI don't sell very well.

We expect sales of US$200,000 every 3-4 months vs the US$110,000 with open field. And we are offering a 5% dividend of all the net profits obtained with this investment, paid on Bitcoin.

We are open to suggestions about other bitcoin stock exchanges.

Our documentation

Our Tax Payer ID on Mexico is AMO110601781 (Agroindustria Montecristo SA de CV), you can check validity of it here https://www.siat.sat.gob.mx/PTSC/
All our company registration in Mexico is located here: https://agroindustriasmontecristo.com/docs/Docs%20Mexico.pdf
Our Yearly balances are located here: https://www.agroindustriasmontecristo.com/docs/BALANCE-2012.pdf, https://www.agroindustriasmontecristo.com/docs/BALANCE-2013.pdf, https://www.agroindustriasmontecristo.com/docs/BALANCE-2014.pdf
Our F1040SC forms are located here: https://www.agroindustriasmontecristo.com/docs/F1040SC-2013.pdf, https://www.agroindustriasmontecristo.com/docs/F1040SC-2014.pdf

The user is investors the password is Agroindustrias1

If you have any question about our business or the investment, please don't hesitate to ask us.
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