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Yeah. Interesting idea. Also major stats on what tables are live, etc. And also more information about rake and rake back..
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I really think that you should add a feature to give free chips directly from the website.
Something like 0.00001 chip, that has the value of 0.00000001 * 100 chips. ( it's like zero value ... but it is enough to play )
Example:
Then the user can ask for the free chip more than one time every 3/4 days, and only if he has less than 0.0001 chips.
Some tables are also needed for these kind of players ( to avoid big walled players ... )
This will make possible to have many new players on the service without Bitcoin involved.
They will be able to play even if they don't know anything about Bitcoin, but it will be enough to get them addicted to the game/service.
Exactly for this reason I keep free roll going on - you do not need a penny to participate in it. It needs just 6 persons to start. And these freerolls restarts every hour or even faster (depending on how popular this free roll is). So I believe it is best way to try it out - you can play and also you can get some chips you can use to play ring games.  |
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Downloaded from ubitious and reading right now - upload legit. And really fascinating! |
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Oops. Somehow missed new posts 2HostFat - I am working on some new features and these require quite substantial code refactoring. Also, main development still done in the old github repo - https://github.com/hippich/Bitcoin-Poker-Room2SmokeAndMirrors - this project is mix of several open source projects + my own stuff on top of it. Poker server written on Python, table itself - mostly jQuery, and my stuff, actual website - Perl. |
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I put more global measures in place preventing large scams. Small scams.. I assume this is just business operation expenses? =))
My current measure is to control it manually. And prevent it early. Also I have some hard prevention mechanism in place which keep site from loosing many coins at once. I have some ideas how to make it more sophisticated and automated, but current profit from this project does not make any sense to do it (just like it would not make any sense for someone to build bot for this site - too much time and too little profit).
I am more interested in... if 26 "free" bitcents per hour is interesting for people, will 2 bitcents interesting as well? Where is this line where it become economically not worth it?
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Noviz, could you give me a hint how to implement good anti-duplicate account measure? =) Just keep in mind - this is bitcoin, not credit cards used to fund account.
I know a bit about online security. And running 10 virtual boxes with VPNs set to different IP address seems like an easy solution against any anti-duplicate measure right now. =)
Remember - there are no 100% secure websites. And you can't do it. What you should try to do - make it economically nonsense to exploit "flaws" (just like bitcoins 51% attack - it can be done, but with this amount of power you can get much more legitimate way).
Where I was mistaken - amount of incentive needed to make people try to use this "flaw".
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It's a hobby, finding and successfully exploiting a flaw is rewarding in more ways than 0.78 BTC
The only flaw was assuming nobody will be trying to cheat for bitcents. =) But also for many people, Bitcoin is exactly this. A "flaw" where you are able to generate money out of nothing. Why are you surprised to see this here?
Because it was not like this before =). I believe ridiculous bitcoin price jump caused all sort of scumbags getting into it. |
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Can you add free tables with your actual code? ( fun play ) There will be never free tables like you see in existing poker rooms. But there will be something else you might like. I will announce it once it is ready for a spin. =) |
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About 75% sure his ip is 128.253.153.95. It's from cornell.edu so possibly you could ring the university, but i'm not sure they could/would do much. I am not going after him in any case. It is not a point of this post. 78 bitcents worth like 4 bucks. I just fascinated how small-minded some folks are (became?). I can understand why people hack mtgox. Not that I agree with it, but I can understand what motivates 'em. but this... It is like stealing plastic bags from Walmart =)) |
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I expected it could be hijacked like this. It is a main reason why I made 0.01 BTC prize pool for each tourney (I thought to make it something like 0.1 - 1 initially). I believed nobody will want to make it their full time job. Apparently I was wrong (guy was still running his "operation" when I spotted this).
If this was done by a bot, then 0.26 BTC/hour is actually a decent revenue. It would take some 11Gh/s to make the same amount. This was not a bot for sure. It was manual work. On the other hand - producing bot who can deal with whole poker protocol, website, registration, bitcoins, etc while would be pretty exciting work, will never pays back since amount of time to invest into it incredible. not saying you should be smarter then this guy to actually do that. =) |
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I expected it could be hijacked like this. It is a main reason why I made 0.01 BTC prize pool for each tourney (I thought to make it something like 0.1 - 1 initially). I believed nobody will want to make it their full time job. Apparently I was wrong (guy was still running his "operation" when I spotted this).
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=) with all my optimism here, i do not see this happening soon. but i would like it to be like this..
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well.. to use any flaw you need an effort. spend 3 hours to get 78 bitcents? this community was better before..
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Here are nicks of this guy. Something suggest me he is russian. I am russian myself, so this is even more depressing:
MelloNear
ZorroNext
ZidanChampion
jessygreen
msGoodLuck
alexalex
And here are his addresses.
1LtxvKpmn4AG23NbqwzsbYTUkQaY625ceR
1AbCJgVvuz1Cc7DHg83zCEbgDTwtK1gKbM
1LSN7yZ6esfBxSfoKt77LpbDxQ8d3bzRL3
1FiMSaS9MxZYNbKgKM7bvkDj91cHDvtotc
12U3kJic1pREtLHWj2JsvtRmbMbFEsS24T
1DR2QEnzJrRBpX8DhpdpaiBvgyGpHxZy9W
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Today I opened admin panel of my http://betco.in to find out that some "smart" kid created 6 accounts and was playing currently running free roll SNG tourney. With all ins in each game. He was hunting for 1 chip (i.e. 1 bitcent). He was able to withdraw this "astonishing" amount of bitcoins during 3 HOURS - incredible 78 bitcents! People, c'mon. What will be next? You will be looking to get 5 bitcents by scamming someone? Then 1 bitcent? very disappointed... Hope price will drop enough to get rid of all these scumbags. |
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2weiX, absolutely agree that using seat position is pretty dumb. Here is why I am using it - simply order of appearance information is not available in code. And I would assume players who know about this current scheme will be able to sit at most profitable seat.
Good thing - I put point awards code into separate class and from now it is much easier to develop it further. Once we add code for storing order of appearance in game state - I will be able to use it inst
ead of position (it should be as simple as changing pair of variables now)..
Hope this make sense...
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Just pushed new code update for points-based rake back system. Once you reach 100 points you can exchange them at 1 point = 1 chip rate. Number of points depends on rake paid and position on the table. It varies from 10% to 120% - yes, you can get 20% more chips then rake paid! Here is url to file for implementation of points - https://github.com/hippich/Bitcoin-Poker-Room/blob/master/lib/ppn/pokernetwork/pokerbonus.pyShortly - if there only two players - first one will get 20% rake back points, second one - 10% rake back points. If there are 7 or more players, first player will get 120% rake back points! Now how place is defined - first place at 10-max table is left top, next one - next clockwise seat. On HU table - top one. Once more tables be added I will add page describing in details rules of this points system. So if you are going to play - make sure to sit at top left seat and once you will get 7+ players at the table you will actually start earn money from rake! All this is very rough. It might change in future and I am looking to get feedback =) |
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