i am running for the hills...almost sold off all my primes...will sell everything and exit stage left....i'm glad i'm getting out in time...and if paycoin actually does sell for 20 i've tripled my btc with gaw...not bad  i just don't wanna stake anything as 6 months is years in crypto...hell even 3mths is a long time...oh well i'll leave it to the gawlovers to hold the bag...i'm sure they won't mind since they are just eating everything up |
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Wow Josh was excited to have wsj blog post that Josh knows how to move 28k btc around...interesting lol
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I must say this thou...i've doubled my btc on the warmachine i bought from them...although if it turns bad, then i feel bad for all the people that just got in and didn't listen to warnings about them |
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Man I hated cexio but they look honest compared to this shit. So im actually going to invest by mining the shitcoin with cexio and dump. But there will be no public pow nor an exchange. Just selling shitcoin and hashstakers then off to Brazil for an "interview"
dam bitpop...trying to get yer post count up? can't you just condense all yer posts into one? I with ya but damn that is alot of posts |
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how about all the gaw lovers just ignore all the gaw haters? and vise versa  then no more countless posts back n forth hehe |
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Nearly 72 hours now & I cant withdraw my BTC (less then 0.5) I get no response on my ticket only when I hunt them down on Chat then they tell me they dont know why & they are looking into it. I am sure in the last 24 hours they have had zero trouble taking peoples BTC
I just did a .07 withdrawl and it went thur |
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Man are they just saying all this confusing shit on purpose? so it is so hard to follow whats going on nobody knows if their getting scammed or not? LMAO good stuff...gaw never lets us down in the entertainment part  |
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I can't believe Josh has the balls to say banks control b your funds and your access to then but GAW doesn't. Yet as a former customer I've had my funds frozen more times at zencloud in 1 month than I've had in 7 years using PayPal.
shhhh!!! people can't be reading that...that'll crash the whole system!! |
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I can tell you as of this morning, we are producing almost twice the payout amounts we need to meet the requirements of our customers.
This last part is irksome because you have not "adjusted" payouts on Zenpool or lowered maintenance fees even though both have been discussed. Surely you have achieved scale enough to bargain for cheaper electricity rates that should be passed along to the miners. nobody else mad at this statement? and he came back with "oh i have something in the works" wth...if your making double what ya have to pay and we're getting next to nothing in payouts...oh wait...whats double of nothing? ahh ok i get it now carry on also very surprised Josh made an apperance here...he says there is neg. talk on HT...and i think its growing as zenpool payouts are declining daily rapidly...you can tell the true gaw nutz cause they have unbelievable faith in josh no matter what...yes there are two kinds of groups, but what about all the people in the middle? Look at the BFL case...there were ppl on both sides there as well...tons of ppl calling it a scam and ppl who invested defending BFL...and ppl in the middle...does this all matter? nope, just the outcome....Is GAW the next BFL? I kinda believe that BFL started off with good intentions, its just something went horribly wrong or took a wrong turn somewhere and there was no coming back from it...IDK https://hashtalk.org/topic/19201/my-theory-on-whats-i-think-is-happeningshould we change the title of thread to GAW Miners always make money? one thing ya always notice is "Change everything" and "Always make money" well, its kinda true...they did change mining forever as in we ain't mining crap anymore and i'm always at least making a satoshi WOOHOO!!! Retirement here i come!!! |
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I love how there are grammatical errors in the first fucking sentence of the white paper. They have had how long to edit and reedit it?
ABSTRACT
This paper examines PaycoinTM, from a technical and practical perspectives as a new cryptocurrency designed to facilitate mass adoption and long-term valuation stability.
There should be no comma or one after perspectives as well. However it's from a technical and a practical perspective(You need to add an "a" before technical and perspective is not plural OR from technical and practical perspectives(Remove the a before technical).
If you can't even get the first sentence right and you make 2 errors, how serious can I take any of it?
Maybe this is the reason that only the first few sentences were read at the investment meeting. LMFAO. Brilliant. I can't believe I didn't think of that. Thank you so much. I'm still laughing. good stuff...was he trying to pawn off the idea that they didn't read it cause they just love the idea and threw money at him? |
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GAW is giving away a genesis miner with each new account With genesis 1GH going for .50 they are giving away what $5? My guess is that most of the "new" customers are "old" customers just creating "new" accounts.
I'm surprised someone hasn't written a bot to do it yet. ;P
They are actually giving away $10. $5 worth of Genesis to the new user, and 500 hashpoints to the referrer. There is no $5 worth of Genesis because you can't sell the gift. There value of hashpoints is also debatable, besides you only get the 500 points if the new user buys something (the gift doesn't count). So the real gain here is much smaller - the tiny daily payout from the gifted Genesis, plus the ability to essentially purchase 500 hashpoints for about $0.50 (Market fees if you buy the cheapest hashlet and then resell it). Edit: 500 hashpoints may become $25 if you believe in the PayCoin, so maybe that's what's driving the new accounts. $0.50 bet to win $25, I can see some people taking that. You really only need to buy one hashlet, then you can keep on selling it to yourself and only lose 10% I should try this |
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I know you will look at my sig and call BS, but this is what I've heard from my contact at GAW so far.
1. They are developing a new hashbase and hashcoin system that will be completely replacing the scrypt/BTC miners - This was supposed to be released 2 months ago and now it is not even mentioned..
2. They most likely won't be adjusting fees until their new system is launched - Yeah or ever.. either one.. - This has been promised twice now once about 1 1/2 months ago and the other time about 3 days ago..
3. The hashbase/hashcoin will be integrated with retailers and will have it's own debit card. - Well see. I do know there is about 100 other completed failed coins.. So I doubt this is going to be the next BTC
4. Hashcoin will have an ICO in 6 days (which is probably why they are not bothering to change fees yet). - So he promises..
5. My contact doesn't have any other information at this point, but he will keep me updated and I will be updating the users of this forum. - Cooooooooooooooooooooooool
1. hashcoin and hashbase are being mentioned. Please look around: https://hashcoin.com/ You must be blind if you don't see it mentioned anywhere 2. 1 1/2 months? Fees are just NOW about equal to mining costs, it hasn't been a problem for 1 1/2 months. 3. Hashcoin WONT be the next btc by any means. I'm just telling you that they are planning to have a debt card for hashcoin... 4. An ICO is big money for GAW, I'm surprised you didn't go with the "LOL ICO LOLOLOL" remark that is so typical for trolls 5. ? Not sure what to say here. I offered what info I have, take it or call it BS...makes no difference to me. 6. With the way that all of your responses have been worded, I'm guessing you really were trolling on hashtalk and banned. Figures. Come back here and say how happy you once your payouts are a few satoshis after fees I've never said I was happy with the current fees being almost equal to payouts. Never. That's the reason why I contacted my connection at Gaw and expressed my concerns. You can even check my post here about gaw fees HAVE to come down, or they will not hold true to their word. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750909.msg9553874#msg9553874That is the whole point...they don't have to lower the fees...1 satoshi is profit...and I bet they will just keep paying that out and there is nothing you can do about it... We shouldn't have to wait for them to lower the fees...it should happen today or a week ago but it won't and I doubt it ever will...we'll see once hc comes out but I am not counting on it...too much hype and never any follow through |
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I know you will look at my sig and call BS, but this is what I've heard from my contact at GAW so far.
1. They are developing a new hashbase and hashcoin system that will be completely replacing the scrypt/BTC miners - This was supposed to be released 2 months ago and now it is not even mentioned..
2. They most likely won't be adjusting fees until their new system is launched - Yeah or ever.. either one.. - This has been promised twice now once about 1 1/2 months ago and the other time about 3 days ago..
3. The hashbase/hashcoin will be integrated with retailers and will have it's own debit card. - Well see. I do know there is about 100 other completed failed coins.. So I doubt this is going to be the next BTC
4. Hashcoin will have an ICO in 6 days (which is probably why they are not bothering to change fees yet). - So he promises..
5. My contact doesn't have any other information at this point, but he will keep me updated and I will be updating the users of this forum. - Cooooooooooooooooooooooool
1. hashcoin and hashbase are being mentioned. Please look around: https://hashcoin.com/ You must be blind if you don't see it mentioned anywhere 2. 1 1/2 months? Fees are just NOW about equal to mining costs, it hasn't been a problem for 1 1/2 months. 3. Hashcoin WONT be the next btc by any means. I'm just telling you that they are planning to have a debt card for hashcoin... 4. An ICO is big money for GAW, I'm surprised you didn't go with the "LOL ICO LOLOLOL" remark that is so typical for trolls 5. ? Not sure what to say here. I offered what info I have, take it or call it BS...makes no difference to me. 6. With the way that all of your responses have been worded, I'm guessing you really were trolling on hashtalk and banned. Figures. Come back here and say how happy you once your payouts are a few satoshis after fees |
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Why did you delete this? So sad..wish I quoted it
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Suchmoon, lets be fair, bitgeek has a valid point. Lots of GAW circle jerk accusiations there, and lots of anti-Gaw circle jerk here. Each site has a high noise to signal ratio, but eh, I find both to be informative.
I have to disagree. The "anti-GAW circlejerk" exists on any forum not heavily censored by GAW. On this forum/other forums you're allowed to have any opinion no matter how disagreeable, but on hashtalk if it's not circlejerking, you're silenced. It's almost like a cult over there (although I must admit the extreme fanaticism has largely died down in the past few weeks) People are now being banned from hashtalk without even being downvoted. (simply for pointing out zenpool payouts have dropped) jimmothy Smartest thing ive read on bitcoin talk in probably... EVER hahaha yep this is a stab at the person who said it first which will probably end up on ignore anyways |
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yes great post i was surprised it stayed up for more then 15mins...there mods must be napping or something...Say anything bad over there and the cult will get you...thou shall not taint the koolaid with thou neg. words  Hash on SHEEPLES!!! lmao good stuff |
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If you get banned or your post deleted, that mean you hit a nerve...and not a good nerve...what is easier? to actually tell us what is really going to happen or to sweep it under the rug and pretend nothing happened? You have to give it to josh thou...did he goto school/private sector to get his training in brainwashing the unwashed masses? the cult is in full overdrive now with HC coming...ooo i have a feeling this is gona blow up so badly lol...oh well...sucks for everyone that invested heavily there good post btw wondered what happened to it |
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If Josh hates this forum/thread so much why doesn't he post anything on here to defend his precious company image?  |
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What we will see from GAW on ICO day?
GAW has used bait and switch tactics to drive its customers like sheep into a den exactly like they wanted.
Their marketing is so abusively aggressive that leaves no choices once you're sucked into GAW.
I am a customer of theirs from the days of hardware miners.
I got sucked into hashlets and then primes because this kind of marketing takes no prisoners.
It is either pack and leave or shut up and do as you are told.
But I've got to hand it to them: when my hardware and early hashlets got promoted to Primes I got a virtual value of multiple times my initial purchase.
I was beyond break even (ROI) right then and there. How can one refuse this?
With the introduction of hashmarket they provided an exit which I have used multiple times to take my profits away from harm.
Of course, this happens at the expense of other investors that get in GAW at this point in time.
There is a ethical dilemma of getting profits at the expense of new comers. But this is asset trading and one's profits are some one else losses. Always is and always will be.
But from that point on GAW has gone crazy:
From owner of hardware to owner of virtual hash power mining BTC to owner of virtual hash power mining a digital "company loyalty" token is quite a leap...
So today I have one question and one prediction:
QUESTION:
It has been pointed out again and again that GAW is a USA based company and as such cant be a scam as CEO et al face very solemn consequences for their actions.
So far we've seen GAW playing with the VISA logo, mentioning names like Amazon and eBay and getting their customer base giving them money to do whatever they please in exchange of participation in the dream of hashcoin.
Are they so stupid as to expose themselves so much? Do they have enough money to buy such legal support that they can get away with anything?
Despite me being pissed off by their aggressiveness, their operation is indeed legit?
PREDICTION
Just yesterday BAY completed its 3,000 BTC ICO on bter. I invested in this believing that any alt project really needs very solid financial backing to have any chance of success. You just can't create a billion dollar cap working on your spare time at home alone. Many posters agree that BAY starts off with enough capital to make it through.
Thanks to its aggressive marketing, GAW must be sitting on 20+ times the money collected by BAY ICO.
So I predict they will pull HashCoin off to a point where very hard facts cannot be compensated by the next BIG DREAM.
8 days from now they will introduce Hash/Dash/Pash/Such/Coin
Immediately they will aggressively steer their sheep / customer base (myself included) into holding their HashCoins because:
a) you will need them to participate in Prime Controller thing as POS
b) you will need them to keep the various amps (shiny objects) working
c) you will need them because their value will reach $75
The price of Primes will rise in hashmarket to prove their point.
The Hash/Dash/Pash/Such/Coin will become a reality and will be traded in their own exchange (hashbase) once customers will be tied up holding their coins.
From that point on it's anybody's guess.
But ethical questions aside, there will be a chance to exit with profit...
I will, as soon as i'm able to sell all/most hash/whater its called coin to hopefully reach ROI and get out...then he can do/say whatever and i'll finally be free of this nightmare |
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