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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 03, 2017, 08:17:07 PM

BTC is not sold to anyone, it's only linked.
If you can prove you own a certain BTC address, then the coins in that address can be linked.
that's all, the BTC stay where they are, nobody takes them. The owners keep their BTC and also get free GByte.

You can buy GByte for BTC in exchanges though, and get more GBytes than by just linking your BTC, but obviously you would not keep your BTC that way.

you completely misunderstood my point but thanks anyway. You can buy and sell GB through the chatbot. It's actually a fantastic idea, it completely cuts out the need for exchanges. The chat bot has a built in order book. I've looked into it more but there's very little liquidity so,for now, exchanges still need to be used but it'd be fantastic to see people grow the chatbot order book rather than trade on exchanges.

It's actually an amazing idea, if all coins had their own built in order book you could create a sort of decentralized all seeing eye bot that could connect with all the individual coin bots and create a way to trade any coin at any time without ever needing an exchange.

Byteball should really push the built in order book, maybe offer a small incentive or something to stop people using exchanges.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 03, 2017, 06:20:17 PM
sorry if it's been asked before but it's a long thread.

If you sell your GB to the chat bot for BTC how does it work? I ask because if 500k btc have been linked for the next air drop how would the bot handle a ton of sell requests, do you get a set price? If the bot is linked to an exchange there could be crazy slippage with so many new GB coming on the market. If 5k btc is sold to the bot then where do those BTC come from?

I ask because I want to sell to the bot rather than send them to an exchange but I wonder how it's all setup to handle such volume from the air drop and where the btc come from. 500k btc linked would be about 11k btc worth of GB.
23  Economy / Speculation / Re: GBTC Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: June 07, 2016, 02:06:04 PM
Just hit $100  Shocked

if only the real btc price was the same  Grin
24  Economy / Speculation / Re: GBTC Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: June 06, 2016, 05:47:00 PM
$94.50 todays high  Shocked

I remember some people talking about buying in at something like $31 and getting friends to buy in too, quite the investment huh, triple your money in such a short time. People talk about the premium but 3x your money is a better return than if you'd bought coins normally, we've only gone up about 2.5x
25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ever missed the chance of getting bitcoin at cheaper price? on: April 22, 2016, 01:43:45 AM
I was lucky, I looked at Bitcoin/Silk Road when it was about 6$, didn't do anything, came back 1 or 2 years later and it was still about $6, i thought " wow it's still the same price as way back then, hasn't moved at all". Then the price started climbing and I started buying. Only after investing did i realise that it had gone to $32 and crashed to $2 in the time gap. If i'd known that I probably wouldn't have invested so much or maybe anything at all for worrying about it crashing again. Now my average buy in price is $13 and I'm thankful every day for Bitcoin.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: March 17, 2016, 01:44:03 PM
there is not a 90m cap, the guy doesn't have a clue if that's what he's trying to say. Looking here might help
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1345668.0
check those inflation figures lol
15.6m new ETH every year
27  Economy / Digital goods / Re: 🌟🌟 cheapest IPTV SERVICE on market | only $70/year | $15 monthly | $5 one day🌟🌟 on: March 10, 2016, 01:30:43 PM
3 days since i messaged this guy, i guess his service either isn't working or he isn't interested in customers, bit strange.
28  Economy / Digital goods / Re: 🌟🌟 cheapest IPTV SERVICE on market | only $70/year | $15 monthly | $5 one day🌟🌟 on: March 09, 2016, 03:18:11 PM
I sent PM two days ago asking for payment details to get the trial and had no reply since.

xi22uxj did you get a reply?
29  Economy / Digital goods / Re: 🌟🌟 cheapest IPTV SERVICE on market | only $70/year | $15 monthly | $1 one day🌟🌟 on: February 28, 2016, 04:16:09 AM
If anyone in the UK is willing to help me get setup id really appreciate a PM. I don't want to run anything from my laptop, so i guess i need a sky type box sitting by the TV to run this service? If anyone experienced can point me to a good cheap setup i'd be really happy. I can install Kodi and all that, just don't have any hardware as i've never done this before. I've got unlimited fibre so keen to buy this IPTV sub.
30  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin go back to bellow $400? on: December 17, 2015, 06:55:59 AM
hopefully it drops to around $380 so i can buy a nice chunk. I can see us having a quiet month or so from now with xmas and new year, so probably a slow drift down until we find a nice support level.
31  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2015, 12:59:09 AM
so first coinbase has a load of fake trading like Huobi does and their volume exploded and now Bitfinex is playing up, hmmmmmmm wonder what's going on.
32  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2015, 12:31:53 AM
bitcoinwisdom is very weird for bitfinex, the sell side shows 442 yet the price is 448, something is definitely wrong
33  Economy / Speculation / Re: The scam is so bloody obvious. on: December 13, 2015, 05:59:57 PM
lol these types of threads are hilarious.

word of advice to the Op, the best trading strategy in the world isn't

"I'll post all types of scary sounding BS on a forum, that'll make the masses panic sell and i'll makes loads of money mwhahahahahaha"

you seem to think it is, how's that working out for you? Why not try selling your incredible trading system to the masses? I'm sure we'd all be queuing up to take your world class trading course.  Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you define "early adopters"? on: December 13, 2015, 05:53:05 AM
from my experiences with bitcoin, in the future i'd see early adopters as those who can sit down and talk about the madness of the scene when we only had Mt.Gox, so literally everyone was trading on one platform, it was fun because everyone was on the same page and all the action happened in one place.

I'll never forget the day the lag came in and we plummeted from the all time high to about $55, no long bear market just pure carnage in a matter of hours, orders not being placed, people placing sells at one price and it finally going through when the price was 1/3 of when they sold, real blood in the streets and everyone going nuts. Then trading was halted and we all had to wait for it to restart, battle lines were drawn, the buyers vs the sellers. I'll never forget the action of those 24-48hrs.

For me that was the early adopter scene, we basically had gox + silk road and that was it. It was like being able to talk about the amateur scene before btc grew up, it was raw and a lot of fun. Once bitstamp emerged and then other exchanges things got more spread out and that intensity i havent seen again since.

That will be my memory of early adopter btc that i'd sit down and talk about with someone whilst having a beer and thinking what a crazy time it was.
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Wired discovered the real Satoshi Nakamoto? (.. this time) on: December 10, 2015, 08:50:11 PM
Quote

thanks for that, so here it what i think happened:

Wright and Kleiman were involved on Metzdowd, Kleiman much more so than Wright, Kleiman probably even told Wright about Bitcoin. Wright probably did nothing about it, but knew that kleiman had dabbled with it, mining from very early on and knew/thought that Kleiman amassed a huge amount of coins. Then, as the price grew, his jealousness/greed/anger grew because he hadn't done the same thing. Then when he died he thought he'd be able to fix all his anger/frustration/regret by getting hold of whatever Kleiman had.

If you look here, Kleiman posted on Metzdowd just 4 days before Satoshi and is only two below Satoshis post, so it makes sense that he was aware of it from the very start and may even have messed about with mining it from the very start.  
http://marc.info/?l=cryptography&r=1&w=2&b=200901

I would say, though, his post from a few days before would show that he wasn't SN or involved in the creating of it, he was involved in something else and, like Hal Finney, was just playing around with it right from the very start. Wright missed the opportunity and regretted it, then saw his chance to steal whatever Kleiman had when he died.
36  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Wired discovered the real Satoshi Nakamoto? (.. this time) on: December 10, 2015, 08:13:40 PM
I think this is closer to the truth:

Wright believed Kleiman was either Satoshi or had a huge stash of coins from the earliest days of Bitcoin. Being the scammer type that he seems to be, when Kleiman died he thought he'd have a chance to get hold of these coins by contacting his father and scoring himself a massive windfall. Also, with Kleiman dying it allowed Wright to jump on his bandwagon and claim that they were both Satoshi, the kind of thing a narcissistic ego would do, to try and stake a claim to any bitcoins Kleiman had.

The more it unfolds, the more it seems like Wright is just a scammer,as his world collapsed as the tax authorities closed in on him and his $50m+ Australian scam from government he saw this Kleiman angle as his only chance to solve his inevitable problem. Now that it's all coming crashing down he will end up bankrupt and maybe in prison.

As a scammer would, he tried to fix one scam by pulling off another, luckily it wont ever work in a world of crypto proof, and he will get what's coming to him. I think this Satoshi claim is the last desperate chance he had as he knew the end was nigh as the authorities closed in.


There is one major flaw in your theory.  If Kleiman is indeed Satoshi and he died in 2013, how did he pen the "I am not Dorian" post?

I didn't say Kleiman was Satoshi, I said Wright seems to have believed,for whatever reason, that Kleiman was Satoshi or at least involved in the creation of it. If Kleiman worked with Wright in previous years, as someone posted above, then Wright probably thought he'd been just a sidestep away from having been involved in it also. For a scammer/narcissistic personality the frustration and disappointment at being so close to it probably grew over the years as Bitcoin got bigger. Then, when Kleiman died his greed thought now was the chance to step into Kleimans shoes, try to get hold of his coins and probably his computer and his files and be able to claim that he was Satoshi himself.  The Tulip fund was probably  invented by Wright as a way to try and lay claim to any bitcoins that Kleiman had control over, basically saying they were his but Kleiman was custodian over them.

The interesting thing for me, with what they've uncovered, is why Wright thought Kleiman had a significant amount of coins or why he seemed to think Kleiman was important. If anything, i'd say the story should focus more on Kleimans associates and not the scammer Wright. Who did Kleiman work with around that time? is there any clues or was Wright just mistaken in thinking Kleiman was either involved or just held a huge amount of coins.
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Wired discovered the real Satoshi Nakamoto? (.. this time) on: December 10, 2015, 05:52:35 PM
I think this is closer to the truth:

Wright believed Kleiman was either Satoshi or had a huge stash of coins from the earliest days of Bitcoin. Being the scammer type that he seems to be, when Kleiman died he thought he'd have a chance to get hold of these coins by contacting his father and scoring himself a massive windfall. Also, with Kleiman dying it allowed Wright to jump on his bandwagon and claim that they were both Satoshi, the kind of thing a narcissistic ego would do, to try and stake a claim to any bitcoins Kleiman had.

The more it unfolds, the more it seems like Wright is just a scammer,as his world collapsed as the tax authorities closed in on him and his $50m+ Australian scam from government he saw this Kleiman angle as his only chance to solve his inevitable problem. Now that it's all coming crashing down he will end up bankrupt and maybe in prison.

As a scammer would, he tried to fix one scam by pulling off another, luckily it wont ever work in a world of crypto proof, and he will get what's coming to him. I think this Satoshi claim is the last desperate chance he had as he knew the end was nigh as the authorities closed in.

38  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2015, 11:01:23 PM
shmadz, just put him on ignore like everyone else and please don't quote him, half the forum has him on ignore.
39  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2015, 10:52:02 PM
the extreme butthurt of tarmi is hilarious, so bitter.  lol
40  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2015, 08:55:18 PM
yay a new tard to put on ignore, it must have been him signing up in the video above
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