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21  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Interested in AVALON guy? Come on, let me show u his TRUE COLOR. on: January 22, 2013, 02:09:57 PM
here's the whole story.










22  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Interested in AVALON guy? Come on, let me show u his TRUE COLOR. on: January 22, 2013, 01:15:57 PM
NGzhang: Mining makes you have no dignity, no human rights.

John, what a good translation.
ask some Chinese come here to tell  is that what he wanna say, dont play a game of words.
i know the whole story now, and i can post all screenshot here.
maybe the best way is anyone interested in this issue just try to find a Chinese friend to translate.

what makes me feel embarrassed is when i tried to say something for miners who bought or plan to buy AVALON machine.
why do they just keep silence?
23  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Interested in AVALON guy? Come on, let me show u his TRUE COLOR. on: January 22, 2013, 10:57:13 AM
I really don't see where he's wrong?  Huh

Look at the threads in Custom Hardware. A lot of the miners or miners-to-be DO act like they have no dignity at all, repeating their master's words like biblical scripture.

He's also almost right about miners living at the bottom of the ecosystem. The system is inherently tiered.

The ones making money are the ones providing the tools of business. Exchanges, payment processors, hardware manufacturers.

Then you have the black market making money.

Then there's the BTCtalk Digital Goods Marketplace, a hive of scum and villainy selling illegally gotten invites and tokens and tickets and cards and anything else they could get their hack on.

Then you have the miners scraping for bits and pieces fighting like wild dogs for scraps of flesh.

And at the bottom in the BTCtalk Marketplace finally the ones trying to sell whatever junk they could find at yard sales and flea markets and in bulk rubbish. And failing miserably at that.

hmmm, maybe u r right.
i do see some miners in that way.
to u, they r just like flies. u can say anything np.
but to NGzhang, they r his customers.
do i need to explain more about my opinion?

all btc guys r swimming in the same pool, why someone has a feeling that he's more noble than the others?
Ridiculous!
24  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Interested in AVALON guy? Come on, let me show u his TRUE COLOR. on: January 22, 2013, 09:09:46 AM
Why don't you copy the whole conversation instead of cutting some quotes in the middle? No matter it is justified or not, there must be a reason for him to say "just now some guy got a hallucination that i ever showed any respect to miners"

i know someone will ask me this question
these msg comes from screenshots a QQ group( a software popular in China, like msn or ym)
i'm not in that group, so i saw these 4 pics just from an angry guy, who posted them in another group

i thought about his words for a long time
i also tried to imagine why he said so, it wasted my couple of hrs.
but suddenly i realized i dont need to think so much
a normal btc guy will never ever say these shit words, that's enough.
25  Bitcoin / Hardware / Interested in AVALON guy? Come on, let me show u his TRUE COLOR. on: January 22, 2013, 08:26:37 AM
Hi guys,
miners and developers,
did u say congratulations and cheers when u got the news that AVALON ASIC machine shipped?
do u respect NGzhang?
maybe u feel he's the same guy just like u and me who loves bitcoin and wanna take care of bitcoin.
but i'm very sorry to say u r wrong.
to NGzhang, miners just shit bugs living in the mud under his shoes.




NGzhang: just now some guy got a hallucination that i ever showed any respect to miners
killthelion:so impolite
pigface: do u need the CEO of AMD to take ur phone when u plan to buy a 7970?
pigface: kidding?
NGzhang: what?



NGzhang: what's politeness?(maybe he wanna say why be polite)


not shock u:
here's more



allow me just translate the parts of his words.
NGzhang:(miners) living in the bottom of the BTC ecosystem.
NGzhang: LOL
NGzhang: miners have no dignity, no human rights
NGzhang: that's it.

HEY GUYS,
what r ur feelings?
i was full of rage when i saw that.
i do respect great developers in bitcoin area who paid much for btc
and i do know they made it because they love btc and believe in btc.
but NGzhang, this guy is a piece of junk.
he came here just for quick money, and i think he'll be a killer of btc.

and my miner brothers, thinking of a guy who take ur more than 1k usd and teese u.
will u be happy?
26  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Congratulations to Avalon for shipping from a BitCoin Forum newbie on: January 21, 2013, 06:04:44 AM
congratulate for Avalon will take huge money and make btc world in a mass?
27  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will anyone sell me a btc via paypal? on: January 21, 2013, 06:01:43 AM
paypal hates bitcoin
and paypal is world wide cheater's nurse
charge back guys play in paypal park, paypal just say "it's ok, enjoy my rules"
pp must die
with ebay, pp just has a pacemaker, but i do think he's dying.
28  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trust No One on: January 21, 2013, 05:55:29 AM
yeah
i just recalled Mr. moon
the guy who took my 100 btc.
29  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: January 21, 2013, 05:51:53 AM
i tried to introduce my customers in Africa with bitcoin and ur service.
but the fee u asked block them.
they know little about bitcoin, they just wanna use it to pay easily.
u r not well known as paypal or WU, maybe u r famouse in btc area, but btc area not the whole world, right?
keep ur eyes widely and expand ur business
once every btc payment service just stand in the area of btc guys. it's just a game.
30  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: January 21, 2013, 05:43:08 AM
Hi
can i be allowed to post on hardware forum?
i'm from China
i have some words against Avalon guys.
i know bitcoin very well and i was a miner
i just wanna say something but not go through like a newbie.
plz give me a favor, if my post not good, just kick me off, ok?
31  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 怎么在其他版块发不了帖呢? on: January 20, 2013, 04:55:48 PM
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