Maşallah Mark Yusko da haftada 8 tane bitcoin ile ilgili röportaj veriyor. Bitcoin ne zaman satılır? ben kendi adıma cevap vereyim elimdeki bitcoini 3 kez sattım hepsinde hatalı oldu. piyasalar kötü olduğu dönemde sürekli olarak yatırım yapan insanlar bir süre sonra korkuya yapılıp ufak bir çıkış gösterdiğinde elimden çıkarayım diye bir hata yapıyorlar.. ben sürekli aynı şeyi yaptığım için artık akıllandım diyebilirim. şimdi yatırımı 4 parçaya bölüm. 1- Saklayabileceğim kadar bitcoin, 2 - Altcoinler 3- USDT ve son olarak %30 luk bir kısmını satmaya hazır olarak elimde tutuyorum. tekrar bir yükseliş olursa bu sefer hata yapmamayı umuyorum.
Bu biraz da kumar gibi, ben de 4-5 kere hatalı yerden FIAT'a döndüm, benzer bir sepet taktiği uyguluyorum. btc fiyatı 15kya gelene kadar > 1 - usd btc trade, btc miktarını artırmak üzerine, 2 - 5-7 gün vadeli altcoin-btc daytrade, 3- minik bir sepet, hodl edilecek altcoinler. Bitcoin ile geçmişte yapılan yorumlarla bu sene içerisinde yapılan yorumların farklı olması gerektiğini düşünüyorum, bu zamana kadar gösterdiği karakteristik özelliklerini bu yıl göstermedi, bundan sonraki zamanlarda değişik hareketler beklememiz lazım gibi geliyor sanki.
bu yoruma katılıyorum, bu yıl büyük grafikleri, üçgencileri biraz bozdu btc, halving son umudumuz, umarım yine o düşüşlerden sonra parabolik şekilde yükseldiği karakteristiğini gösterir. ama piyasaya artık bitmex(short ve longları patlatmak üzerine kurulu oyun), futures işlemleri ve bakkt gibi kurumsallık girmişken beklentilerimizi biraz düşürmeliyiz gibi. |
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Updates ?
Telegram channel abandoned since August. Looks like they closed shop already without informing anyone. Lol, even this thread stopped on August too. Desico is gone and a failed STO. i think admins are online on the channel but they choose to ignore the shitposts. time to time i see those promotion shitposts on channel are being deleted, but like after 3-4 days. looks like they don't care at all, and giving no updates. hopes lost for me. |
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bakıyorum da yobit sayesinde forum, daha doğrusu bizim local bölüm, hareketlendi. geçen hafta yorum yazılan başlık en az 2 saat aynı yerde kalıyordu. imzaya katılan arkadaşlar da biraz temkinli davrandıkları için spam yapmamış oluyorlar. canlansın ulan şu forum biraz valla sıkılmıştım iyice. neredeyse kendi kendime cevap verecek duruma geliyordum.
Nasıl temkinli davranmayalım, yahoo nun ban konusuna bakıyorum arada, millet tek tek tüm tüm hesapları tarayıp, ucundan spame kayanı hemen şikayet ediyorlar. İmza vesilesi ile biraz fazla takılmaya başladım birkaç gündür. Harbiden forum kullanıcısı da kalitesi de baya düşmüş. Yobit imzası az da olsa hareket getirmiş oldu . İngilizcem iyi deyip sakın ha global de takılmayın derim ortalık ruh hastası dolu. işi gücü bırakmış adam banlatmaya çalışan tipler var. Bakınız bir örnek... Hello Yahoo, Please take a look at this user: badykvik. 13 shitposts in the last 2 hours. şahsen ben ingilizce yazıyorum ilgimi çeken konularda ama haklısın, şikayet eden herif bence de ruhen sıkıntılı, gayet normal post atmış adam inceledim. yapıcı yorumları da var. biraz lokal bölümde takılmaya başlasak iyi olacak harbiden.. uyarın için sağol. şimdi bu eleman banlandı mı, aktif kampanyaya devam edenlerin bir spreadsheet'i bulunuyor mu, kontrol edelim kaç kişi olmuş vesaire. |
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Çoğunluk 3k altı beklerken 13k üstünü gördü, şimdide 6k bekleniyor hadi hayırlısı...
8100 dolarlarda bir süredir dolanıyor btc ama pek güvende vermiyor yatırımcısına. Anladığım kadarıyla 8k'nın bir tık altı pisikolojik bir çizgi olmuş durumda. Eğer oraları test ederse 7k'den çökme ihtimali de yüksek. İllalah ettirdi bütün millete çünkü. Hala sabredenlerin sabrı 7k'lı rakamları gördüğümüzde çatlayabilir. Bu durumda 6 bin telefuz edenlenlerin tahminleri gerçekleşebilir. Yinede btc bu sonuçta kim bilebilir ki yarınını. şahsen alım için ben de 6k civarlarını bekliyorum. ama bitmex sağolsun iş 1 senedir short ve longları patlatmak üzerine kurulu, genelde herkes bizim gibi düşünüp buralardan shortlarsa bu sefer 6k falan da gelmez, arthur mahvetti piyasayı. |
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Price of BNB came back to 6 months ago, around 15 USD now. ICO price of BNB was 0.1 USD. ICO started at 1 July 2017 and completed at 21 July 2017. Although rough price decrease in last 2 months its still 150X from ICO price. By the way last 6 months BNB holders had great advantages at launchpad. Specially BNB holders made higher profits from ERD launchpad. Almost 15X with a single ticket which was equal to 300 USD.
That's why people continues to hold BNB because BNB is now dominating the IEO, it's still the most profitable exchange that issues a token for their investors. I'm not sure, but I guess they are the first to offer this kind of investment style and it really works for them and to the investors. X150 is a huge increase already, I did not calculate anymore but form 0.1 to 15 usd now, obviously thats over x100 increase which is only achieve by good coins in the market, and I'm sure it will not just stop their, 100 usd is possible in the future. Actually IEO's are starting to fade away.. it has started like minimum 10x from ieo price per usd at the beginning, but last ones are barely doing 2x-3x, you can check it for yourself. However still looking strong, building and moving forward, they are one of the biggest actors now, and it seems they will keep this position. Hope next IEO's will make few x profits again.  I agree that if IEO, even at Binance, has brought insignificant profit to its investors over the past few times, then there is no point talking about other projects. The crisis in the cryptocurrency market is still very pressing on new projects. Unfortunately, such a period is now - its not easy for everyone! Besides, IEO's for traders became so manipulative. nowadays so many devs are unlocking their tokens just because getting into binance for private investors, yes they get profit, so price goes 10x in few seconds, then to 0.5x, you would never know. so popularity of this concept faded away quickly. i personally lost over 1 btc just because IEO hype and being greedy, tried to buy in few seconds against the bots. |
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Merit sistemi rütbe atlamayı baya bir zorlaştırdı benim zamanım yok iki hafta ile hero olmayı kaçırdım, takmıyorum sizde takmayın, merit olmadan da faydalı olan arkadaşlar vardı, karşılıksız yapıyorlardı , şimdi de faydalı olmak isteyen kişiler merit alır rütbesini atlar, ama rütbe atlamak çok zorlaştı bu bir gerçek
Valla olayın artık zamanla, doğru paylaşımla alakası yok. Zaten forumda aktivite azaldı, meritler kullanıldı. Merit kaynakları dağıtsa da bunların arzı yeterli değil. Ben zaman ayırıyorum, kovalıyorum. Her bildiğim faydalı bilgiyi paylaşıyorum. SPAM içerik üretmemeye çalışıyorum ama merit olayının başlangıcında 14-15 meritim varken bir yıldan uzun sürede ancak buralara ulaşabildim. Biliyorum yükselenler, yükselebilenler var. Tabi o yükselenlerde de hakedenler var, sistemi manipüle edenler var. Bende bir kaç günle Full Member olmayı kaçırmıştım. O zaman full olabilseydim şu an SR'lik yakındı mesela. Ama bu tarz durumlarda her zaman yaşadığım bir olay aklıma geliyor. 2 yıl önce gezi planımız çerçevesinde eşimle İtalya'ya gittik. İstanbul'dan çıkarken iki valizimizden birisi 26 KG diğeri 12 KG ağırlığındaydı. Ve kişisel valiz hakkımız 20KG. İstanbul'da hiç sorgu sual olmadan valizlerimizi teslim edip İtalya'ya uçtuk. Daha sonra seyahatimizin sonunda Milan-İstanbul uçuşu için havaalanına geldiğimizde, yaklaşık olarak valiz ağırlıklarımız aynı olmasına rağmen check-in sırasında bize bu şekilde kabul edemeyeceklerini söylediler. Ne kadar zorlasam, gelirken de bu şekilde geldik desemde fayda etmedi. Bu arada iki uçuşta THY uçuşu olmasına rağmen. Orada yetkili kadının söylediği bir cümle burada da konuyu kapatıyor; Kural, kuraldır...Zaten imza taşımak için merit kasmanın anlamı da pek kalmadı çünkü piyasada bounty'si iyi olan imza kalmadı. Eskiden bir imzada, isim vermeyceğim, 4-5 ayda 1.5 btc kazandığımı bilirim, 2 sene önce falan. merit ile rütbelerin önemi artacak ve imzalar daha değerli olacak diye düşünüldü ama bu sefer de piyasa küçüldü, icolar öldü. ben de şahsen hero olmama çok çok az kaldı diye üzülmüştüm merit sistemi geldiği ve hero olamadım diye ama şimdi bakınca pek üzülmüyorum, züğürt tesellisi. |
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Couldn't see any development so far. Is it slowly fading away?  Still interested but demand is too low, it was, and still. I don't see any volume on LATOKEN. Is this token traded on a LAToken? my silly head had the imprudence to invest in this misunderstanding and now I want to get at least part of my investment yes, with kyber network and idex too. however with no volume for days. so there isn't any trade actually.. |
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Still they didnt give exact date for payout?
Not your keys, not your coins...
To me this seems to be as dubious as the whole project.
Good luck to all patient holders, I am happy to have sold all.
Well not exactly happy, as Taas was a total wrong investment for me, lost a lot.
Never ever again will invest in a crypto investment fond.
Never ever again will invest in an ICO or similar construction-except a new coin with own blockchain.
You are lucky that you've got a chance to sell your TaaS tokens earlier. I was also one of those lucky people who sold their TaaS tokens in a good price. I was their bounty program manager. and now feeling bad for them. they shut down the project. I don't know the reason behind doing this. they had enough funds and could have run the project for a long time. but they just decided to abandon it. hopefully those who waiting to get a refund will receive it asap. i consideer myself as one of the lucky ones too, sold it with a good price. but still i feel like i am disappointed about the progress, it could go and make profit for a long time, there was a way out but now people are worried about their investment. only lesson i took is i will never ever invest an crypto investment fond like relax. |
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It seems your words are correct now ETH touches 178 $, and the market is stable and stable, but the predictions are not entirely true, news, fud, fomo, pump, dump, there will always be a chart that does not match the predictions and make market unpredictable.
If you take a look at the daily charts you will see that the market is completely undecided about what to do, one day the market goes up and the next one it goes down by almost the same amount, it seems investors do not know what to expect and this is natural since it seems like there are many good news coming from the developers of ethereum but the market is not reacting, and if this continues I will not be surprised if the price of ethereum goes down during the next weeks. i wouldn't use the word like "undecided", from my view it looks like more of an accumulation phase for alts. eth is major one, so good news from devs surely will effect the price sooner or later. |
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the price was only pegged to the unwillingness of developers to foster this project ahead in relation to investors and a waste of money
That's precisely the opposite of what's happening with Bancor with the changes highlighted above fudders gonna fud. bancor is finally on the right path from my view, so just ignore. |
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Baya bir kişi imzasına girmiş, şimdiden arkadaşlara hayırlı olsun. Umarım geçen sefer yaptıkları gibi yapmazlar.
Ben iki gündür bakıyorum kimse bir yerlerini bayrak etmiş durumda değil globalde. Bir öncekinde millet kafayı fena takmıştı. Bu sefer bitcointalk altarnatifi bir site reklamı olmasına rağmen tepkiler sönük. Bakalım bir kaç güne kokusu çıkar. Bu ilk değil. Daha önce de onlarca forum reklamı yapan imza gördük. Buradan vuramazlardı. Ama yobit bir farkla geldi buraya. Başaramayacağını düşünsemde bu forumu parlatıp Bitcointalk'a cidden rakip olmaya başlamayı planlıyor. Her topluluk için bunu yapamaz belki de ama Rus topluluğunu komple götürebilir buradan. Ruslar belki de en kalabalık communitydir burada forum metriclerini göremediğim için yorum yapamıcam ama her zaman spam yüzünden ruslardan şikayet edilirdi. Çok fazla forum bitcointalku tahtından etmeye çalıştı ama şimdiye kadar başarılı olan olamadı, bitcointalkun en büyük referansı satoshinin hesabı olması ve theymos olabilir İlk birkaç gün sadece rus lokal postlar kabul edildi bu imzada. Sonra nedense (herhalde şikayet geldi yahooya ) tüm localleri serbest bıraktılar.. dediğiniz gibi en büyük ve en güçlü community ruslar, hatta yobit de rusların galiba. umarım spam yemeyiz fazla türk olduğumuz için, serbest bıraktılar ama göreceğiz. Beni de bounty olarak foruma döndüren imza oldu. |
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I think altcoins should have some kind of growth, because we have been waiting for almost 2 years and nothing good has happened with altcoins in terms of growth, but the price drop was on an ongoing basis, so that sometime growth will have to come, but when it will be, of course it is very difficult to say, and I no longer expect that there will be the same growth as in 20017, there will definitely not be such growth anymore and should not be counted on.
If we have waited for two years like you said and altcoin is still not working, you should know that there is a problem somewhere that is yet to be solved for altcoin to get back on their feet again, and until the problem is solved, I doubt if we will really witness any increase in the value of altcoins again generally, except those altcoins that naturally do surge when bitcoin surges and vice versa. Now it is not only about projects not having real use case, but there is something that is not pushing people to make use of those coins for all the purpose they can serve except bitcoin. People are just shifting their attention to bitcoin now and if care is not taking, the bitcoin dominance may rise up to 100% of the current dominance and this may mean doom for altcoins. I don't share your opinion with btc dom may rise up to %100. Even for whales, altcoins are the biggest tool for increasing amount of btc holding. So it always be an altcoin market for that purpose. |
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I don't get this logic. Why are people looking an altcoin price from its usd price, while most trading is going on from BTC? You all know why ETH did it's ATH per USD right? Because BTC was it's ATH per usd when eth 2.0 comes out, it won't be enough, we just need another btc bull run for an eth uptrend. it might hold above or go below 168 usd, mainly because of the price of BTC/USD, not ETH/USD parity.. |
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Thank you for da info. Go Hdac! great news! and i heard some other big exchange plans as well, looking forward for those too. btw will there be any unlock of tokens with latoken listing? |
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Now 2 options
1) sell tokens on the market.
2) send tokens according to the instructions and wait for February 2020.
Regarding the second point, the approximate reward for the token can be expressed in $ 1.6, but this is strictly according to my calculations !!!!
On your first option when i see on livecoin, it hasn't big volume trade on there especially for TAAS. From the past 24h, there are only $192 volume trade on there https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/taas/#marketsI'm sure anyone can't sell their TAAS token price as like they want atm. But on your second option, i have seen many fake promise from other ICO project. This could be another fake promise from the dev As I understand it, there are no volumes, because Most token holders and people interested in this have already met the conditions and are waiting for a reward from the developers. Therefore, such low trading volumes. i personally don't think holders are waiting for 2020 to sell all their taas to team. when investors and holders start to lose faith to team or project, volume and price decreases day by day, and i believe thats the case here. like DGulari said, this could easily be another fake promise and i am happy to sold it months ago with better conditions. |
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Couldn't see any development so far. Is it slowly fading away? Still interested but demand is too low, it was, and still. I don't see any volume on LATOKEN. This coin is in the gray area which mean if even the team has released the beta and people are not interesting to use it right now. The price of the token is almost worth zero value. you can join in the telegram group directly and this is the best way for you to get the latest update. Just open your telegram and search sapien channel and i thought it's much more easy lol Sapien community is almost no longer active and that is the main reason why investors tend to sell more. This project was very popular last year but when listed at IDEX exchange, the value of SPN only decreased and that made ICO participants unable to make any profit. I think now don't expect the new updates from this project because if they want to develop then they will look for big exchanges. I personally participated in their bounty campaign and at that time this project was very late in the implementation of their plan and now Sapien is almost forgotten. btw i did bounty too, and still hold some portion of it. they've had big plans like colloborating blockchain and social media but with very poor communication with the community, so it is not suprising to see any volume nowadays. shame. but i don't think it is too late now, coz it's still a project that didn't make it's final product, so with more developing and better marketing/communication skills, it will be one the tokens i would like to watch. |
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Couple of days ago we have seen significant move in a day but again with the correction of BTC price, each the coin has lost a huge value. I think we are very far from a altcoin bull run, may be later this year we can see that.
There is no guarantee that by the end of 2019 it will bring altcoin back to the moon. But at least I'd rather wait for 2020 where many people expect more. At present the price of bitcoin is $ 8000 and continues to fluctuate. Fundamental factors will be able to make bitcoin rise again above $ 10K - $ 20K. The comeback of altcoin will be difficult it will only happen if BTC will start the bull run and other altcoin will follow but not all of them there still altcoin that no more hope even BTC bull run start . agree with you to some point. btc surely must start it's bull run first, but while btc is mooning, i don't think alts will follow the btc. on that time btc did it's ATH, altcoins jumped just after btc saw its maximum. so from my view, it won't be at the same time, we need a btc bull run first, then btc and fiat will flow into alts. |
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How many of you guys feel disappointed about how bakkt did nothing to crypto market price but shrink it down to where it is today? i am one of those who think bakkt will have huge impact on crypto market since 2018 so here we are today and things went sideways
BAKKT - this is only a deception, he was like a flag for ordinary people that with the advent Bakkt we fly to the moon. That did not happen, because it could not be, large investors have to crypto market and the arrival of new does not depend on the discovery of some Bakkt. I think you're wrong. The launch of this cryptocurrency exchange will bring results. its just that they dont want to show it to all people now. just wait This is my perspective too, institutional investors will need time from my view. Like someone said, they have already impacted the price when BAKKT first showed up on last year. Now it is open so.. patience and hype will be created among them. |
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I am not fan of anonymous cryptocurrencies. Why? Because simply they can be replaced by second layer solution - for example Lightning Network increases the anonymity of Bitcoin. Secondly, governments will 100% ban pure anonymous coins.
And after the government bans anonymous coins what are they going to do? Identifying the person behind those coins is a real challenge because those coins were specifically designed to protect the identity of the person that owns those coins, governments not too long ago had the same posture with bitcoin and now we are seeing them being more tolerant to it because they know they cannot destroy it and my opinion the same is going to happen with anonymous cryptocurrencies. Relevantly right, back then the government are haunting people who use bitcoin thinking that money laundering and illegal transactions are being held using this system, but after realizing that it's not just for illegal activities and it can be integrated with real businesses they start to recognized maybe not every government but there's existing countries that do adopt the system. sooner even anonymous coin will also be recognize the same treatment. this is true. besides, they will want to regulate them, put some kind of control mechanism. That is the reason of recognition, not purely using/adopting them from govenmental aspects. It will be anonymous, they can't and probably won't know what are they dealing with on near future, but it is baby steps for them. |
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But I didnt understand something about the conditions. I tried to find information about this airdrop - but did not find anything. when it will happen in which tokens, what are the conditions for participation and what volumes. Everything's explained in detail in the following article - https://blog.bancor.network/the-bancor-airdrop-is-coming-42d78709427f'To prevent trader manipulation, the exact date and time of the snapshot will not be shared. In December, immediately after the snapshot is taken, we will announce the snapshot has been completed, and the airdrop has begun. The airdrop will occur over the course of the following two weeks.' thank you for the link and sharing details. The last line is so important; "Since BNT will no longer hold a reserve of ETH, the dependency on a single blockchain will be reduced, as Bancor evolves into a multi-blockchain liquidity network." Because of this issue, bnt price seemed pegged to eth for so much time. Finally it will be more independent, make its own path by using much more other blockchains. |
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