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Hi,
I see a lot of talk about our choice of case design, in fact about our design choices in general so I thought I would jump in and clear some things up if I can.
We have always tried to make it clear that we aim to provide a machine that gets shipped on time.
Time to market is the most critical thing for us. We have a small window of opportunity here with a lot of competition coming out after us with products they claim are better than ours. (well after all they wouldn’t be very good competition if they claimed it would be worse.)
So yes we have saved time on a few things. We can all agree that the look of the machine is not a top priority. We never said it would be. if it’s a big enough deal we could always put up a poll on our site and ask. Then we would know for our next generation. Sweden has some lovely design houses that would welcome the consult on a global product. This wouldn’t make it hash any faster but it would delay the product shipment for sure. These things would have to be modeled tested and tried etc etc, A far easier solution would be to use off the shelf parts which have a proven track record, over spec them by quite a bit (going back to our margins upon margins upon margins claim) So the decision was an easy one. The first boxes to leave our building will be delivered on time because we haven’t spent even a single meeting debating anything that was not 100% essential. The look is not essential for us at all, most of our customers don’t care and that means we don’t care.
As for the external power supply. Most small devices come with an external power supply ours is just a big devices that needs one. We could make our device bigger and have the power supply inside which would mean a larger shipping box, and a larger package sent to you. That would mean extra shipping costs. It would also mean more engineering of the airflow inside the case. (all fans must point the same way really) This comes under the “waste of time category” a far quicker solution is to let the customer supply and use an external power supply, (like all of the smaller components) Then you can simply have it on the outside of the case so it won’t get in the way of the airflow. Yes it fits on a 19inch rack shelf, There is space behind the unit for a power supply on the shelves (this is what we are doing in our hosting), You are welcome to use cable ties to make it look nice and keep it secure if you want to.
Another one of our internal rules is that unless its 100% essential we simply don’t spend time on it.
The bottom line is what you are getting from KNC is over engineered and not over designed. Imagine how upset people would be if we had something that looked great but we were delayed because of the design.
Thanks
Sam
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Hi Guys
We would like to say that. Yes....we did tape-out of the ASIC some time ago. The exact details of the ASIC schedule, volumes, vendor etc. is kept internal since it's very sensitive information towards competitors. The product development tasks are on-track."
We are still on schedule to begin shipping in September.
Thanks
KnCMiner Team
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All,
I would like to say that EVERYTHING that needs to be done at this point in time for a September delivery has indeed been done.
We are on track for delivery and we know of nothing currently to the contrary.
There is not a single part in our systems that has a longer delivery time than the time we still have available.
Yes that does imply that things that don’t need to be ordered yet have not been ordered. The reason behind that is we simply don’t need to order them yet, We do have contracts with all suppliers we need to have contracts with Those contracts contain delivery times and the associated order dates by which we must confirm the amounts (and of course pay).
I hope this removes confusion
KnCMiner
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Hi Guys Sorry for butting in in your discussion but don't buy any power supplies yet. We will have a large Technical announcement coming next week. Where we will give even more accurate Power figures and GH/s. It will be a significant announcement which I hope will make all of our customers happy. and no before you ask I wont reveal any details before that newsletter goes out  again please don't buy a 1200W power supply you simply will not need one that powerful or expensive. Sam |
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From the 'open day' thread, just posted:
Re: KnCMiner Openday Wednesday 5th & Monday 10th June
Today at 04:21:33 PM
#310
Hi All
OK so we are ready for the open day I know you have all been waiting but we wanted to make sure everything was 100% ready and today I can confirm it is.
Because we have had so much interest we are actually going to do 4 sessions. Two on Wednesday 5th, one at 10:00am and one at 2:00pm. Then two more on Monday 10th at 10:00am and 2:00pm
They will all be the same in content and you can meet us and ask any questions you like. We will demo the Mars mining rig with all 8 blades hashing away to the public pools.
It will be held at ORSoC's Stockholm office
ORSoC
Regeringsgatan 111
111 39 Stockholm, Sweden
We will send this out in a newsletter on Monday to catch the people who wont have a chance to read this post.
Thanks
Sam
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Best regards
Kncminer
kncminer.com
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Hi All
OK so we are ready for the open day. I know you have all been waiting but we wanted to make sure everything was 100% ready and today I can confirm it is.
Because we have had so much interest we are actually going to do 4 sessions. Two on Wednesday 5th, one at 10:00am and one at 2:00pm. Then two more on Monday 10th at 10:00am and 2:00pm
They will all be the same in content and you can meet us and ask any questions you like. We will demo the Mars mining rig with all 8 blades hashing away to the public pools.
It will be held at ORSoC's Stockholm office
ORSoC
Regeringsgatan 111
111 39 Stockholm, Sweden
We will send this out in a newsletter on Monday to catch the people who wont have a chance to read this post.
Thanks
Sam
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I'm all over BFL. I used to be all over Avalon until it turned into a whack-the-mole contest. I have been part of investigating the other ASIC-based bitcoin miner companies that all proved to be scams.
KNCMiner is special in the sense that I believe they've done a good job masking their intent. The proof is too overwhelming to not be a scam of some nature.
Not a single person can show an instance of Kennemar & Cole's websites (there's three identical ones) being readily available on the internet prior to KNCminer's existence. Not even Kennemar and Cole themselves, for they've avoided the question like the plague.
Instead of that aspect being investigated and discussed, I'm the one asked questions, and I'm the one who's trying to help.
Madness!
Hi, If you think this questions still needs answered then this site maybe able to help you finally get it answered, as i guess me writing anything to you is not enough evidence. http://www.domaintools.com/research/whois-history/?q=kennemarandcole.se&page=resultshttp://whois.domaintools.com/kennemarandcole.seKennemarandcole.se has been in registered to me since 2011 as the above link proves. |
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Actually I think of it differently
What annoys me more than anything is people on eBay/or here selling pre orders for boxes. When the person buying has no chance of actually knowing if the box will ever arrive at his/her door because the original company doesn't allow a change of shipping address,
There is enough scamming in this industry already. I do not want to see our boxes or queue placements being used at all to scam anyone out of money and if i can spend a few minutes to fight that I will.
If this offends anyone then so be it. I would rather that than have you lose your coins to someone who claims to have a queue placement, or a full pre order who in actual fact does not.
After payments are made and the queue does indeed become longer. We know that queue trading is gong to happen and as we cant stop it the best we can do is try to make sure no one gets scammed.
Sam
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Your place is only worth something if you have already paid. The order you'll get your unit is determined by when you send them money - so... if you have not paid, then a number from a contact form doesn't have much value.  Hi, Actually this is NOT true We will open up the order books soon and give everyone a chance to pay for their preorder (7 days), We will then ship them based on the preorder registration number, not when the order was paid for as long as the order is paid for within the 7 days we will honor the queue placement. if you pay on day 8 you will simply enter the queue from the back I hope this helps if you do sell your order number all I will need is an email from both parties and I will do the rest, they will get your queue placement. it can’t however be for more than your registered amount of boxes and we will not split preorders into multiplies Sam@kncminer.com |
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And to clear the VAT issue ....
DO the prices on your site INCLUDE vat @ 25% ?
No they don't include any taxes, We are not aiming our site at consumers at all. We are not advertising our prices in any consumer press etc. We are selling professional devices to professional miners. |
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after the queue we need to pay and this is the most risky part. what guarantee do you have that it will be delivered in September 2013? what make you so sure you will not end up liked butterfly? You are not showing Jupiter or Saturn Asic Mining hardware prototype, but expect us to make payment? Mars FPGA Prototype is for Mars FPGA Mining sales, not for Jupiter or Saturn because this are ASIC Devices and you even claim of a 28nm asic chip.
The main reason we can maintain our deadlines is that we are using ORSoC who have been producing devices based on FPGA's and various types of ASIC's for over 10 years. our main competition are new to FPGA and ASIC devices, ORSoC are not new. we specifically chose them as a partner so we don't suffer the same issues that have plagued our competitors. Having said that, if you want to wait to pay until after you have seen a fully working prototype of Jupiter you are more than welcome to do so. Sam Thanks for the replies. Could you please let us know under what terms and conditions will the customers be preordering? What about refund policy? Do we have any guarantee on the deliver date? With guarantee I mean that if the units arrive later than. 15th October (for the first 500) you refund 50% of the preorder amount. Yes we definitely need money back guarantee and refund. September 30th is the deadline for product completion and shipping. Anytime later, buyers can choose for a new agreeable date or a FULL refund. Yifu has mentioned that he really can't see anyone producing a 2rd generation/28nm at this point in time 2013 and he stated that end of 2014 he will have the new gen chip, I hope he knows what he is talking? We need buyers protection and not end up like butterflies.  We see no reason why it cant work like that, the only addition I will add is that the refund will be 100% with the order cancelled, We wont be offering a discount/refund and still shipping you the boxes. Refunds are offered up to the day of shipment of your order. Above all else we will be fair. Sam |
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