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i live on Asia and my local exchange always be my priority if i want to trade bitcoin
because there is big exchange in my country available the feature can convert bitcoin to my local currency directly
Localbitcoins works just great for me |
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 What do you like best about bitcoin? Decentralization, transparency or easier to move? Or just it makes you look cool?  Bitcoin let me create a start-up and succeed so I just love it  |
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i'm thinking of starting my own bitcoin forum, this one seems outdated and i want to make a better bitcoin forum than this one,
will everyone join my forum? any advice?
You should try, what can you lose? In the worst case you'll get an experience setting up a bitcoin forum, so it's still gain. |
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In a start-up. This kind of investment may give you 0.5-1% of a fast growing company that can become the next big thing like Uber or WhatsApp. Why not to try it out?
It's not that an easy thing as you are saying that way. It's better to put this amount by investing into trading where you are already have decent knowledge on it. And you know the risk and you know what can happen with your investment, also you can buy some properties that are appreciating yearly just like lands or real estate. Property requires significant amount to invest, there are no options for $1-2k. Trading is OK but it involves risk and requires experience and dedication. But none of them can make you rich, start-ups can. Value of a successful start-up may grow 100 times in a few years. I know how to invest in start-ups safely and I mean absolutely safely - via escrow, with a full money control. And it's not difficult, buy a share of a start-up online and see how it grows in value. https://www.tiptopfund.com |
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Thank you for your comments. There is bug in some pages and also lots of information look missing. 1. Lets look at one of the projects you have listed https://www.tiptopfund.com/invest-in-projects-online/BrandCrowder, when checked their site which has also broken SSL  . No information or link back to your crowdfunding site can be found.  3. On https://www.tiptopfund.com/projects/ page, it shows that brandcrowder have raised around 8 BTC in this round but when i clicked Invest now option it opens up a detail page http://www.tiptopfund.com/product/brand-crowder/ in which there is two messages one is out of stock and another one is pending review.  If their crowdfunding is pending how they have collected that 8 BTC with your platform, this all doesn't make sense. According to the information at https://www.tiptopfund.com/invest-in-projects-online/ (see the bottom) This round raises – This is the current value of all a company’s shares available for the current Round multiplied by the Share PriceSo, they have not raised anything with us yet as they are not selling any shares. 8 BTC is what will be raised during the 1st round when we finish our review. As for the link back - we don't ask to put any links to us because start-ups may try many sources to get funding, not just us, and links may limit their options. We don't insist. Fixed, thank you! |
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Affiliate program launched at TipTopFundWe pay 5% referral commission for selling shares of our start-ups. Create your account at https://www.tiptopfund.com/ and enjoy making money with the world first online incubator for start-ups!
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In a start-up. This kind of investment may give you 0.5-1% of a fast growing company that can become the next big thing like Uber or WhatsApp. Why not to try it out?
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It also depends on amount you have, this is what I do:
under $1000 - save everything
$1000+ - invest 50% conservatively, invest 20% risky, save 20%, give 10%
It's always good to remember to give money, not just invest/save it.
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so where is recomended bitcoin investment
majority placed bitcoin investment only cloud mining, ponzi comminity(same MMM), hyip invesment
i need placed bitcoin invesment another ponzi site
Look, it is possible to invest bitcoin in 100% legitimate and transparent ventures and still earn a very nice income. I talk about tech start-ups, you can invest and have 60%-100% annually and still be on the safe side with your investments. You buy a share of a real young company, their business grows, you sell your share with profit. If you hold your shares long term you can make really good money, remember Uber or Facebook? They also looked for investments 15 years ago, now they cost billions. I offer the same approach, here is a project to invest bitcoin, look at the pitch deck http://www.tiptopfund.com/product/thesyndicus/ |
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The idea is amazing. The execution not so much.
First of all you need to get the marketing going by a whole lot, then you need to prove it with couple of great startups and people need to make decent amount return, after you establish your trust and success there will be a whole lot of people coming in with coins in their hands and hoping for a great return. Until than it will be a stagnant idea.
Naidray, thank you for your comments. 200% agree with you, without marketing there won't be any results so I'm starting my campaign on this forum within a couple of days. First press release is on its way, also I'm getting in touch with journalists for a coverage in media. By the way, is Crypto-News.net your resource? I'd be glad to partner with it. As for the progress, the first start-up is already selling shares for the 2nd round, there are a few shares sold which is good for 10-day website. Once it is done we register a company, take all co founders aboard, open a bank account with access for everyone to see all transactions. Then start selling 3rd round shares' which price will be 20% higher. |
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My personal allocation strategy is a 45/35/20 between investing in start-ups, bitcoin, and cash.
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Let's leave to Bitcoin what is for it and to enjoy it .
I consider Bitcoin as one of the greatest inventions of the mankind like wheel and the Internet. And I have a lot of trust in it, I even launched a bitcoin based start-up which contributes to the value of bitcoin and of the whole bitcoin community. In Bitcoin we trust  |
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More and more venture investors turn to seed stage funding of start-ups. ( Seed - The very first stage of financing that may be directed toward product development, market research, building a management team and developing a business plan) London-based Forward Partners closes new £60M fund to invest in startups at idea and Seed stage ( https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/05/forward-partners-ii/) In the past such venture capital firms hesitated to deal with start-ups at such an early stage of their development. Too much risk, too much hassle and things hard to control. Times change, big money comes to this niche after big money as more and more start-ups become successful. At https://www.TipTopFund.com everyone can become such an investor with just 0.05 BTC minimum. An investor becomes a co founder of a start-up he likes, gets real shares in the company and monitors the business development on the regular basis. All funds go directly to this co owned company, all spendings are transparent. Bitcoin is collected via the leading escrow service http://www.EscrowMyBits.com , partner of TipTopFund.
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When one holds money and doesn't invest it he actually loses the money
That is not an accurate statement. When one doesn't invest he doesn't lose the money but he does lose the opportunity to make more money. What I was referring to was the inflation. For the last 27 years $US lost 88% of its value and during the next 17 years it will lose 65% more ( https://smartasset.com/investing/inflation-calculator). Thus, $1M in 1990 will be worth just $349K in 2034. The most of other currencies depend on dollar and lose their value even faster. Therefore, if we don't invest we lose. On top of that in case of BTC (which is what this topic is about) your statement doesn't fit at all. Everybody here is talking about investing in this or that, but having BTC is already an investment. You had money, you invested it in BTC and now you have BTC which may increase in value or decrease, just like any other investment. That's what you all somehow forgot.
If you invested in BTC a year ago the value of your BTC has now nearly tripled. And long-term it will keep going up, there is no question about it. Now if this is somehow not enough for you, if you want more and take this already excellent-performing investment and re-invest it further then you should realize that greed is one of the most common causes why people lose their investments and end up with nothing.
While BTC has shown incredible increase in value recently it doesn't guarantee us anything: past performance does not guarantee future results. I mean, are you ready to sell all your assets and buy BTC now? I think the most people would hesitate and this is exactly my point: diversify your investments or don't put all your eggs in one basket. |
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If you do not have the skills in investing, gambling and trading then the best thing to do really is to buy bitcoins and just to hold it in your wallet. This is the safest thing but very profitable kind of technique that you can do only with bitcoin.
Past performance does not guarantee future results, bitcoin may lose in value at any time. One should distribute capital between various investments and take funds from losing positions to winning ones. This simple strategy keeps money safely working. |
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When you say "when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past." you are wrong, you have chips in your hand, and chips like stocks can be exchanged for cash in any time.
No, you don't have chips in hands after you bet, i.e. "invested". Your bet is irrevocable, you either win or lose. A stock is an asset that has value, it earns you dividends, and lets participate in the company's life (if you have a major stake).
You are also talking about "win-win" situation, my first opinion is that is a scam! I live in the world where there is no win-win situation, in that case all people would be rich, but look outside your window. Every investment is a gambling in a first place, because there is no risk free investment, at least not if you don`t have some scheme and you know the outcome, but that is cheating.
OK, you bought shares of Apple 20 years ago and by 2017 you multiplied your capital hundred times. Apple won, you won, even their competitors won because Apple significantly developed the market. This is what I call win-win situation and a lot of people benefit from them. Look at Uber and WhatsApp start-ups, they created products we use and they made tons of money out of it. Win Win |
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Tiptopfund didn`t explain nothing, he just explained how he define investment. When you buy a share of the company ( and just to point that successful company share worth a lot ) you also risk, cause some companies go down and that is a fact. From my angle you always bet on some cards, and against others, because companies have competition, companies can be robbed from inside. In the end you have your cards and you put money depending from how much you believe you are strong. If you have a good cards you will be successful.
Main point is difference in blinds, you can play poker for 0.01/0.02 dollars blinds, but if you wish to sit on stock table market you can`t sit with few dollars. With short words everything is investment when you expect money in return, no matter do you invest 1 dollars or 1 million dollars, more money bigger risk, more shaking.
Iv4n, when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past. When investing you have a share, i.e. an asset that has real value and can be exchanged for cash anytime. Next, gambling is a Zero-Sum Game meaning that the amount of your gain is balanced by the amount of someone's loss. On the contrary, investing is a Positive-Sum situation, or like they say 'win-win', because companies create value over time and everyone wins. Thus, the essence of investing is opposite to gambling. |
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So where should we invest bitcoin to actually earn some profit and increase the amount of bitcoin we own, is there any legit place?
I mean cloud mining is a scam but there must be something else we can actually do right?
Recently I launched a project that allows investing BTC in tech start-ups, https://tiptopfund.comInvesting in start-ups can be very rewarding, everyone's heard about Uber, WhatsApp success. TipTopFund lists offers from start-ups that are at early stages of development, you buy a part of a company, become a co founder of the start-up, and see value of your company growing as the business develops. It is absolutely legit: you invest BTC via escrow, everything is transparent and under control. Here is our thread where you can find answers to some questions you may have https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1840814.0 |
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Well, taking risk is a job and profit is a salary. No job - no salary.
With investment, having money is practically a job. All you need to do is put it in a few different things (they can all be the same group of investments e.g. Bitcoin casinos) and boom you're getting sometimes >3% monthly with minimal risk. When one holds money and doesn't invest it he actually loses the money, so I wouldn't consider having money is a job. Investing is. Bitcoin casinos, games etc are not investments, it is gambling. There is huge difference between those: when you gamble, you own nothing. When you invest in a stock, or a stock index fund, you own a share of the company or companies in which you invested. If the company is successful, you benefit financially. |
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Well, taking risk is a job and profit is a salary. No job - no salary.
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