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201  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 08, 2013, 04:40:31 PM
So, those who wanted to buy at $50... is your finger itching yet?  Wink
202  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will it go above 80 or shy back to 70? on: July 08, 2013, 03:22:27 PM
Now at $75. My guess is it will venture back to $82 to create something looking like a reverse head and shoulder on the 4h candles.
 Wink
203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 08, 2013, 05:51:43 AM
The volume on this rally has been decent, i'm not sure i'd consider buying back in yet though. If we break 85 i'll consider it a legit rally. Until then, i'm still bearish.

So once it has moved up more than 28%, THEN you will buy?  Lips sealed
204  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will be the price of BTC TOMORROW 07/08/2013 [Monday] on: July 08, 2013, 03:17:28 AM
$85  Grin
205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 08, 2013, 03:01:42 AM
Now testing the bears' will.

Who will crack before $100 and buy back?  Cheesy
206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 08, 2013, 12:26:58 AM
When everyone was bullish, if the market went down, it was manipulation.

When everyone is bearish, if the market goes up, it's manipulation.

 Roll Eyes
207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: July 08, 2013, 12:17:33 AM
You should laugh, but I have a feeling, based on special subset of my indicators, which says that my short buy @~65 may transform into long position. 30% probability estimation.

Really good call on this!

Aren't you supposed to wait for a climb near $100 before saying good call?

For what's it's worth, kudos Lucif on the first part of your prediction. (The short buy.)
208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally time! We hit bottom, time for trend reversal. on: July 07, 2013, 11:51:47 PM
Bull traps are guaranteed. Watch as sentiment reverses as the pigs buy in and get slaughtered. Cheesy

You know the market will try very hard to shake us on our ground, right?

Are you sure of your position? Really, really sure?  Tongue
209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confess, Single Digit Believers on: July 07, 2013, 06:21:46 AM
No? Setting aside percentage (because we are not going to agree on where the bubbles began), look at the volume between 2011 and 2013.   Look at media coverage in 2011 vs 2013.  Look at the hype on this forum in 2011 vs 2013.

How exactly was the bubble bigger in 2011?  I honestly don't see it.



volume chart and closing price for reference:




I prefer to look at prices (and pretty much everything) with a log scale:



2011 seems bigger and steeper.  Tongue

Anyhow, how deep we go will probably settle this.
Let's necro this thread in a year!
210  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 07, 2013, 02:08:00 AM
Of course there is. I said wising up, not geniuses.  Tongue

But I don't see as much deniers.
211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confess, Single Digit Believers on: July 07, 2013, 01:54:21 AM
(2011 price / 2011 ecosystem)  > (2013 price / 2013 ecosystem)

Are we going to disagree on this also?  Smiley

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Why is that metric more important to quantifying the bubble than things volume, media coverage, and hype within the community (or the aggregate data of those metrics combined)?

All those must be compared with the current ecosystem.

I don't care if the volume is 10 times bigger if there's a hundred times more way to use Bitcoin.


edit 2:

All those "metrics" mean nothing in a vacuum.
Is the USD in a bubble?
Daily volume is huuuuuge!
There's also a massive media coverage and hype in the community.
212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 07, 2013, 01:46:32 AM
Reddit is wising up:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1hroin/how_low_do_you_think_btc_is_gonna_go/

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I think it'll go to around 50. I also see it going back down to the previous crash price of 30.

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Worst case, $30. Best case, $64 then grind sideways for a bit before the next hype-mania cycle.

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likely lower than 50, likely higher than 32

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Step of dropping isn't big now, I think it would be 20-30 for example. It will raise when people will buy cheap BTC. It may be $5 for example Smiley

Which means that if you are planning on buying at around $50 or $30, you aren't alone anymore.  Wink
213  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confess, Single Digit Believers on: July 07, 2013, 01:38:56 AM
I look at the Bitcoin "ecosystem" and compare it with the price.

From the unencrypted wallet.dat in 2011 to casually paying my SSL certificates with bitcoins in 2013.
214  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confess, Single Digit Believers on: July 07, 2013, 01:19:50 AM
Sure, but I wouldn't call this bubble bigger than the 2011 one.
215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confess, Single Digit Believers on: July 06, 2013, 11:47:43 PM
That said, with this bubble being larger in pretty much all aspects, I'd expect a deeper crash.

IMO, this time the bubble was much smaller.

$1-2 ---> $30
15-30 folds

$30 ---> $266
8 folds
216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Get prepared to buy BACK!! on: July 06, 2013, 10:41:32 PM
$15 is a good price Grin

If it hits that price, I am backing up the truck.  Might happen though.

Will you?

The more it drops, the less it seems interesting.
Everyone would have sold his mother to get a change to buy $70 when it was $250.
Now look around... nobody wants to buy.  Cheesy
217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: July 06, 2013, 10:04:46 PM
You should laugh, but I have a feeling, based on special subset of my indicators, which says that my short buy @~65 may transform into long position. 30% probability estimation.

Lol.  Cheesy
218  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 06, 2013, 09:51:06 PM
Yeah ... that looks like a bullish formation to me ... NOT
I guess you covered your short then  Wink

Actually, I did close my short.

We dropped almost 40% without any major rebound.

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219  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 06, 2013, 06:10:50 PM
3k wall at $70 is down. Panic buying commencing.

"What if I can't buy bitcoins below $55 and miss the opportunity?"

* Remembers the $266 *

"Oh my gauuuud! Buy!"


220  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2011 crash topics on: July 06, 2013, 04:34:18 PM
Simply amazing.


I remember holding all my coins tightly at $20, saying to myself "but but... why are they selling?!"
Then $15, $10, $5...

I did learn the hard way.

At least I bought some at $4.  Tongue
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