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201  Other / Off-topic / Re: Americans are now ashamed of their Satanic country (USA) on: August 16, 2013, 04:28:06 PM
I don't know about the other Americans, but I for one support our glorious satanic nation.
202  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The NSA will read your brain on: August 16, 2013, 04:25:30 PM
Tinfoil hat anyone?

Even the tinfoil can't save you from The Man!
203  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.10 loan can be lent to right person on: August 16, 2013, 04:24:00 PM
i have one 0.10 btc that can be lent to a member of community here.

                i will require 0.11 back
you Must provide me with Proof of Identity and Address.

this loan will last for 7 days only







I don't know why people want to expose their personal information for only 12 bucks. Ridiculous

Why would it matter if you give info so long as you pay him back? Even people who buy off of SR expose their personal info.

It matters because personal information may be sold to online black market or spy Agency



Who would sell your name? Anyone can look in the phone book and see your name, number, and address.
204  Other / Off-topic / Re: what's wrong with moderate drug use? on: August 16, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
People who ignore me can't handle the truth.  It would not surprise me if you chose to ignore me because you are clearly full of yourself thinking that a few links on the internet will reveal some great truth.  You are young and naive.

First off I didn't ignore you. I just said that I could see why you get ignored so often.

Second, I posted a link that calls weed "dope", so I can handle the truth. I guess I'll admit that the truth is that both are called dope. But one is deadly. One isn't. It does not make sense to refer to both as dope. Should we call weed smack? Should we call it ice?

Thirdly, what does being young have to do with anything? How many times have you done heroin?

Edit:

"Go watch Reefer Madness"

You just lost all credibility, sorry. I'm not pressing ignore but I am going to ignore you in this thread.
205  Other / Meta / Re: [CENSORSHIP] Matthew N. Wright on: August 16, 2013, 03:43:35 PM
it is not true we can check out but we cant leave as we are not aloud to delete our accounts

It isn't your account, it belongs to the forum/website. You're allowed to use it once you agree to the user agreement you skipped over when you registered your account, you can put a unique name on it, you can make a password to restrict access, but in the end it still belongs to the website. Same applies to say...online game accounts (not necessarily paid before you think of world of warcraft or something, free games are the same), you don't own them either and you can be banned from accessing them at any time.

Again, I'm speaking strictly from a property rights point of view since that's the direction the discussion has taken, with the claims of censorship and violation of free speech. Just trying to get you to see the big picture here, beyond a sole account.

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have you seen the amount of old accounts that are popping back up after all this time the accounts cant be phished cant be brute forced that only leaves to options forum compromised or admin are resetting passwords and using the themselves or selling them

( I know of at least 1 user that regally hacks the forum so I am sure there are more )

All I've seen from you is guesses and speculation, but if you have something helpful to share, please share it with the people that need it (not me).

what I know is pointless telling theymos as its about him and his friends

how would it look to everyone if the people running the biggest bitcoin forum were proven to be the biggest scammers / supporting the biggest scammers out there ?




It would look very bad. So why not post it, if it exists? People will see it even if it gets removed. If they banned you on the spot it would prove them corrupt, so it wouldn't matter even if they stopped you.
206  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Irrational 1% Jealousy on: August 16, 2013, 03:39:32 PM


California, mostly.

I don't even know how to answer that. I doubt that many of them worked their way up from the mailroom. Almost all, I assume, held other executive positions prior to being Chief Whatever Officers. Some founded their own businesses. Some are just good at liquidating a business's assets before dumping them and moving on to the next. You probably have a few YSOM dropouts in the mix too. What kind of answer are you looking for?

So you think that most CEOs just became executives out of nowhere? The point Rassah was making is that they worked their way from the bottom, whether it was in the company they're a CEO of or somewhere else. No CEO has became a CEO without any experience. It's not like a new baby is born, and it is christened as the new CEO of a company.
207  Other / Off-topic / Re: what's wrong with moderate drug use? on: August 16, 2013, 03:36:59 PM
No wonder your ignore button is bright yellow.
208  Other / Off-topic / Re: what's wrong with moderate drug use? on: August 16, 2013, 03:35:47 PM
lol, whatever dude.  Dope = Weed in about 90% of the continental USA.  Unless you are under 20.

What does being under 20 have to do with it? Last time I checked there's no minimum age to do either drug. I have never heard anyone who actually smokes weed call it dope unless it was in jest. Quite simply, because if you ask for "dope" you are asking for heroin.

See terminology: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/heroin/heroin_basics.shtml

To be fair, the marijuana page does list "dope" as a terminology.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_basics.shtml


However, since one drug is potentially lethal and the other is harmless, it makes 0 sense to call weed "dope".
209  Other / Off-topic / Re: what's wrong with moderate drug use? on: August 16, 2013, 03:27:01 PM
Weed IS dope, you are wrong.  It's a slang term used all over the US by white people (like me) to refer specifically to marijuana.

There is nothing wrong with moderate alcohol or marijuana use.



Marijuana is only called dope by people who don't know what they're talking about. It doesn't matter if you're white, black, or purple.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dope

http://www.internetslang.com/DOPE-meaning-definition.asp

Think about it. If someone's "doped up" (like before an operation) are they given marijuana or an opiate/painkiller?

If you ask someone for dope, you are asking for heroin.
210  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-08-14 Bitcoins are a buy at $50, Richard Bove says on: August 16, 2013, 03:22:24 PM
Ugh. The ignorance of these writers ...

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One bitcoin recently fetched $112.75 on Mt. Gox, ...

Apparently, Bitcoins are sold one at a time.

What should he have said? "Recently, 1.03527 bitcoins fetched 116.726693 on Mt. Gox."

Obviously he's going to go by the per-unit price.
211  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-08-14 Forbes: Dread Pirate Roberts, the Man Behind the Silk Road on: August 16, 2013, 03:19:25 PM
Also, why is it so negative for Bitcoin to be associated with SR? This article is very well balanced and in fact it seems to me unbiased, unlike most of the other articles out there. Besides, more and more people are starting to think the war on drugs should end, even two US states have legalised cannabis. Then you have Portugal, Urugay and the Netherlands. For a growing number of people this is puts Bitcoin in a positive light. Like the part about no guns yet makes SR look good.

SR also sells crack cocaine and heroin, and previously did sell firearms and weapons, so the "no guns yet" statement is spectacularly ill informed. So the idea that Silk Road can be looked at as totally benign is pretty ridiculous, there's an argument that they opened the floodgates for Tor based illicit marketplaces of all descriptions. I would defend the rights of people wishing to experiment with many illegal drugs, and also to regularly consume some of them. But crack cocaine would still be harmful even if it were legal, guaranteed pure and free from gang violence and social stigma, and with no benefits for the user, other than to get stupifyingly exhilarated.

Well it says in the article that they did sell guns for a while, I was just commenting on how the article portrayed DPR and SR. The article also talks about the flood gates, but not as much of flood gates of illicit goods necessarily but as a means to circumvent the state and taxation, as well as hard-to-comply regulation.

I agree that crack cocaine is a pretty ridiculous drug. But in a free marketplace people would quickly realise that and just try out one of the myriad of "better" drugs instead. As far as I understand crack cocaine is something that you can earn money by selling if you first push it to consumer, get them addicted, and then sell more to them. But with SR, if you get some poor sod hooked to the stuff, they would just buy it from some of the other dealers on SR and you wouldn't profit.

Regardless it would be really interesting to see how much of SRs turnover is weed/psychedelics/empathogens/khat as well as other milder drugs (and maybe also things like Amphetamine and Ketamine). As opposed to what proportion of the turnover is in the heavier, more addictive substances like tobacco, heroin, alcohol and cocaine and crack-cocaine.

I do have some sympathy for the "free market sorts it through" perspective, but in the case of drugs like crack, it's more akin to survival of the fittest. It's pretty much one way ticket to a very quick death, and I mean the direct medical effects, not anything cultural or circumstantial. Can you avoid the temptation? If not, then early death and heartache it is. It's more like solvent abuse IMO, and I doubt that's a Silk Road category.

As an aside, I think you may have the wrong idea about both khat and ketamine: khat is a natural amphetamine style stimulant that's popular with Somalis (where the khat plant is indigenous), whereas ketamine is more appropriately grouped with your psychedelics (it is often referred to as a "dissociative", whatever that may entail).

Ketamine is an animal tranquilizer. It's a painkiller as well. It's more similar to morphine or other opiates than acid, shrooms or other psychedelics.

Take some time with some ket-heads, then tell me the same. I have direct experience of these people, it is not used as any form of painkiller by those that use it, they spend most of their time talking about how big (or small) the world suddenly appears, or how they've been communicating telepathically with different realms, or how they're no longer convinced that reality is "real".

I have direct experience with oxycodone (percs), heroin, acid, shrooms, and ketamine and I can say that ketamine is more similar to an opiate than psychedelic. And someone who "communicat[es] telepathically with different realms" is just high out of their mind. I'm sure that a lot of drugs would do the same thing to them.

Mind you, recreational users probably don't use it as a painkiller, but that's what it is. It's a sedative and a painkiller.
212  Other / Off-topic / Re: what's wrong with moderate drug use? on: August 16, 2013, 03:15:52 PM
I know a very fit, healthy, upstanding 60+ year old business owner, who's regularly smoke dope for most of his life.
Doesn't seem to have done him much harm.

Dope? Or weed? Dope is not weed; dope is heroin. If you smoke black tar for most of your life you'll be dead.
213  Economy / Lending / Re: While I'm here on: August 16, 2013, 03:14:44 PM
I think that I'll hide the Lending section, most of them are newbies and scammers looking for a loan...

What about the newbies who decide to lend loans???

Whats wrong with Newbies looking for a loan?Huh 

just asking not trying to upset anyone

Will :-)

Apparently post count is what matters for trust, even though the biggest scammers were not newbies.

And those with huge post counts can just inflate it with useless quick posts.

Rarely a newbie will have a good or any OTC or reputation in the forum.
By being a Sr. Member or Hero has a higher chance of a history of successful trades.

Sometimes Sr. Members or Heroes do. But sometimes they don't. For example, I'm guessing if you asked for a small loan it would get lent without any questions, just because you are a senior member. However, you only have one transaction on your trust list.
214  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-08-14 Forbes: Dread Pirate Roberts, the Man Behind the Silk Road on: August 16, 2013, 02:58:37 PM
Also, why is it so negative for Bitcoin to be associated with SR? This article is very well balanced and in fact it seems to me unbiased, unlike most of the other articles out there. Besides, more and more people are starting to think the war on drugs should end, even two US states have legalised cannabis. Then you have Portugal, Urugay and the Netherlands. For a growing number of people this is puts Bitcoin in a positive light. Like the part about no guns yet makes SR look good.

SR also sells crack cocaine and heroin, and previously did sell firearms and weapons, so the "no guns yet" statement is spectacularly ill informed. So the idea that Silk Road can be looked at as totally benign is pretty ridiculous, there's an argument that they opened the floodgates for Tor based illicit marketplaces of all descriptions. I would defend the rights of people wishing to experiment with many illegal drugs, and also to regularly consume some of them. But crack cocaine would still be harmful even if it were legal, guaranteed pure and free from gang violence and social stigma, and with no benefits for the user, other than to get stupifyingly exhilarated.

Well it says in the article that they did sell guns for a while, I was just commenting on how the article portrayed DPR and SR. The article also talks about the flood gates, but not as much of flood gates of illicit goods necessarily but as a means to circumvent the state and taxation, as well as hard-to-comply regulation.

I agree that crack cocaine is a pretty ridiculous drug. But in a free marketplace people would quickly realise that and just try out one of the myriad of "better" drugs instead. As far as I understand crack cocaine is something that you can earn money by selling if you first push it to consumer, get them addicted, and then sell more to them. But with SR, if you get some poor sod hooked to the stuff, they would just buy it from some of the other dealers on SR and you wouldn't profit.

Regardless it would be really interesting to see how much of SRs turnover is weed/psychedelics/empathogens/khat as well as other milder drugs (and maybe also things like Amphetamine and Ketamine). As opposed to what proportion of the turnover is in the heavier, more addictive substances like tobacco, heroin, alcohol and cocaine and crack-cocaine.

I do have some sympathy for the "free market sorts it through" perspective, but in the case of drugs like crack, it's more akin to survival of the fittest. It's pretty much one way ticket to a very quick death, and I mean the direct medical effects, not anything cultural or circumstantial. Can you avoid the temptation? If not, then early death and heartache it is. It's more like solvent abuse IMO, and I doubt that's a Silk Road category.

As an aside, I think you may have the wrong idea about both khat and ketamine: khat is a natural amphetamine style stimulant that's popular with Somalis (where the khat plant is indigenous), whereas ketamine is more appropriately grouped with your psychedelics (it is often referred to as a "dissociative", whatever that may entail).

Ketamine is an animal tranquilizer. It's a painkiller as well. It's more similar to morphine or other opiates than acid, shrooms or other psychedelics.
215  Other / Meta / Re: Can we get a neutral in the trust system? on: August 16, 2013, 02:56:58 PM
Can we get a neutral in the trust system?
[...]
Some times I want to leave feedback, when things did not exactly go how they should but I do not exactly want to call them a scammer (Do the Red) either.

I guess that only makes sense if people actually read the feedback.
In my experience, people tend to rely on the small "integer management summary" much more. As long as your neutral comment doesn't have an impact on someones rating, it won't be all too useful.

On the other hand, what I personally suffer from is that many people trust me, but since usually I'm the one to take the risks, I don't get much feedback at all. A solution to that problem I would definitely like to see.

Is that really a problem? If you're taking the risks, what reason does that give for someone to trust you? You could risk 100 BTC in transactions, and then build up "trust" so that one day you could scam someone for a larger amount.
216  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: flatbitcoin.com on: August 16, 2013, 02:54:21 PM
Hello!
I just wanted to confirm that this site is legit and working. I am friend with FlatBitcoin and been following him under the development.

You have a new account, no trust (despite supposedly making a transaction with FlatBitcoin), and you're his friend.

Why would anyone trust your feedback?
217  Economy / Lending / Re: While I'm here on: August 16, 2013, 02:50:20 PM
I think that I'll hide the Lending section, most of them are newbies and scammers looking for a loan...

What about the newbies who decide to lend loans???

Whats wrong with Newbies looking for a loan?Huh 

just asking not trying to upset anyone

Will :-)

Apparently post count is what matters for trust, even though the biggest scammers were not newbies.

And those with huge post counts can just inflate it with useless quick posts.
218  Economy / Lending / Re: 5btc loan needed for bills and car repair on: August 16, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
lol, am i useing tor or anything to try and hide? surpriseingly i don't trust tor etc...i don't think it's much better then a proxy etc. and it never helped stop the malware and threats that i was dealing with. so i stopped using it.


good point though!

Well obviously it won't stop malware. Viruses don't care what your IP is.

And how would anyone know if you're using Tor? Not that it matters, since knowing your identity is pointless, since Joey's identity has been known pretty much since he started scamming and nothing's been done.
219  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-08-14 Forbes: Dread Pirate Roberts, the Man Behind the Silk Road on: August 16, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
Also, why is it so negative for Bitcoin to be associated with SR? This article is very well balanced and in fact it seems to me unbiased, unlike most of the other articles out there. Besides, more and more people are starting to think the war on drugs should end, even two US states have legalised cannabis. Then you have Portugal, Urugay and the Netherlands. For a growing number of people this is puts Bitcoin in a positive light. Like the part about no guns yet makes SR look good.

SR also sells crack cocaine and heroin, and previously did sell firearms and weapons, so the "no guns yet" statement is spectacularly ill informed. So the idea that Silk Road can be looked at as totally benign is pretty ridiculous, there's an argument that they opened the floodgates for Tor based illicit marketplaces of all descriptions. I would defend the rights of people wishing to experiment with many illegal drugs, and also to regularly consume some of them. But crack cocaine would still be harmful even if it were legal, guaranteed pure and free from gang violence and social stigma, and with no benefits for the user, other than to get stupifyingly exhilarated.

Well it says in the article that they did sell guns for a while, I was just commenting on how the article portrayed DPR and SR. The article also talks about the flood gates, but not as much of flood gates of illicit goods necessarily but as a means to circumvent the state and taxation, as well as hard-to-comply regulation.

I agree that crack cocaine is a pretty ridiculous drug. But in a free marketplace people would quickly realise that and just try out one of the myriad of "better" drugs instead. As far as I understand crack cocaine is something that you can earn money by selling if you first push it to consumer, get them addicted, and then sell more to them. But with SR, if you get some poor sod hooked to the stuff, they would just buy it from some of the other dealers on SR and you wouldn't profit.

Regardless it would be really interesting to see how much of SRs turnover is weed/psychedelics/empathogens/khat as well as other milder drugs (and maybe also things like Amphetamine and Ketamine). As opposed to what proportion of the turnover is in the heavier, more addictive substances like tobacco, heroin, alcohol and cocaine and crack-cocaine.

SR never sold firearms. It was an entirely different site called the Armory (although they may have been run by the same person?).

Also, I'm guessing the majority of money comes from hard drugs simply because they're more expensive. Grams of cocaine are 100+ and grams of heroin are 200+ and that's much less doses than if people spent that money on weed or psychedelics.
220  Economy / Economics / Re: [POLL] Accept Bitcoins only? Please vote in the poll. on: August 16, 2013, 02:40:01 PM
So far it is less than 30 % that think that Bitcoin only is a good way to. I will keep this opened to possibly get even more votes, but the poll starts to be representative. I interpret this result as that most of Bitcoiners today are entrepreneurs (of any kind) and minority are enthusiasts. Thus only few would highly appreciate the Bitcoin only way and would be willing to change their service provider just because it is highly pro-Bitcoin oriented. The rest would be happy if just Bitcoins are supported. Although it would be probably a nice experiment to start with Bitcoins only, it would sooner or later turn into supporting other ways too. This is why I can now vote against Bitcoin only in the poll.

It's less about being an "enthusiast" or "entrepreneur" and more about being realistic. Accepting only bitcoins for a non-bitcoin related business makes no sense.
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