@Mainline, Ken has stated the 55nm Chips are taped out. I do not know about the 28nm but I can confirm that Ken has stated that the 55nm chips are taped out.
Are you sure? I'll scan trough his posts - do you have a link handy? Edit: You're right, he did: ...
The chips have not been produced at this time. We have just taped-out, so this is the start of the manufacturing process.
Which brings me back to: ...
If they're taped out, then they have money to see it through.
... Wishing to sell after tapeoput can mean a couple of things: The chips are unprofitable or the people selling them are insane. |
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LorenzoMoney/breadcrumbs. UR drunk. Folks here are so slick, it's almost unsporting pokin' them. 1) To the CEO of Active Mining. 2) The report for today was more substantive. 3) Thank you. 4) You said that you will be verifying shares for renewed trading starting tomorrow. 5) Again, thank you 6) We are looking forward to Q2 7) It is good you have hired a real project manager  ZumZero, don't pout, you will be rich, also. [2x:04] <LorenzoMoney> kens announcement is very good [2x:04] <LorenzoMoney> zumzero makes me laugh [2x:04] <LorenzoMoney> a working exchange and verifying shares is very good [2x:04] <LorenzoMoney> Ken will make me rich <LorenzoMoney> Someone said Mainline and Crumbs are the same person. Hmmmmmm <LorenzoMoney> Crumbs / Mainline only want to help Active Mining by shaking the tree a bit, shame on you for saying such terrible, terrible things about such a good decent person ... <LorenzoMoney> xxxx, you do agree with me that Mainline is Crumbs and that Mainline and crumbs is the most decent, knowledgable helpful person on the thread and on here and that he only wants Active Mining to succeeed, right? <xxxx> oh, for sure,yeah <xxxx> definitely... what the hell do you think I think? <xxxx> He just wants to pick up those cheap shares <LorenzoMoney> do you think mainline is crumbs? and was he really an orphan in palo alto in the 1980s? |
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*And if you backtrack through the thread, you'll realize that every time ken used ambiguous or imprecise wording, from "we shipped our first product" to "we'll start transferring stock within a week," it was intentional.
Don't try using commonsensical interpretations. The wording is always left open for a reason. You're not dealing with your GF or buddy - this is a guy who's been doing this shit for a while.
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Even if all the 55nm do is act as proof we got something working and get some hashing power to generate some coin and are the proof of concept for the 28s would be a positive.
This is no different than Ken buying hashrate from CEX.IO - pointless waste of money to fool you into thinking shit is happening. If not an outright lie, the 55nm chip has nothing to do with Ken besides his money. It is another guy's failed project - perhaps successful technically, but way too late to market to be profitable. That's why Ken got to buy it. Other companies aren't stupid, if there was money to be made on those chips, who in his right mind would sell? Maybe he didn't have the capital to see it through? Please. If they're taped out, then they have money to see it through. If they're not taped out, then Ken's lying again (he never used the term tapout, simply that RTL code was done). *And if ou backtrack through the thread, you'll realize that every time ken used ambiguous or imprecise wording, from "we shipped our first product" to "we'll start transferring stock within a week," it was intentional. |
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Even if all the 55nm do is act as proof we got something working and get some hashing power to generate some coin and are the proof of concept for the 28s would be a positive.
This is no different than Ken buying hashrate from CEX.IO - pointless waste of money to fool you into thinking shit is happening. If not an outright lie, the 55nm chip has nothing to do with Ken besides his money. It is another guy's failed project - perhaps successful technically, but way too late to market to be profitable. That's why Ken got to buy it. Other companies aren't stupid, if there was money to be made on those chips, who in his right mind would sell? |
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OUR FREEDOM!
We're bought and sold for Wall Street Fiat- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation! Bullshit. You have thrown your greatest talents into the war machine for generations. The Scott's are merely the warriors and subsequent cannon fodder. We beat our drums like the Indians. A small community of passionate people who live from the land, uphold clan belief and contest centralised rule of English Law. *regurgitates river salmon.* ...you got pwnt by an elderly alcoholic from Missouri. Pretty prosaic shit if you ask me. A bit embarrassing, but that's about it. You'll live.
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...I have many theories about want could have happened but I generally try to avoid making comments about any matter where I am only able to guess.
No need for theories. Jon explained things tersely but clearly: Your money is unavailable because reasons. |
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Folks here are so slick, it's almost unsporting pokin' them. 1) To the CEO of Active Mining. 2) The report for today was more substantive. 3) Thank you. 4) You said that you will be verifying shares for renewed trading starting tomorrow. 5) Again, thank you 6) We are looking forward to Q2 7) It is good you have hired a real project manager ZumZero, don't pout, you will be rich, also. [2x:04] <LorenzoMoney> kens announcement is very good [2x:04] <LorenzoMoney> zumzero makes me laugh [2x:04] <LorenzoMoney> a working exchange and verifying shares is very good [2x:04] <LorenzoMoney> Ken will make me rich |
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Aye, fight and you may die. Run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!
Lol, you got pwnt by an elderly alcoholic from Missouri. Pretty prosaic shit if you ask me. A bit embarrassing, but that's about it. You'll live. |
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Pirateat40 most likely cooperated in exchange for reduced/dropped charges. If he had dirt to trade, he probably did.
There's no indication any criminal action was filed let alone settled. There's no indication anyone but the SEC is involved, which has no independent power to bring a criminal prosecution. If the government had settled, it wouldn't be on any less terms than a return of the stolen money. However, the civil action over the stolen money is still proceeding in federal court. There is no good reason to believe there was ever a criminal case for there to be a plea bargain. There seems to be a surreal level of abstraction and disconnect on this forum when people talk abut law. If you don't think TLAs shoot the shit with each other, or that people are not questioned and pressed for info without being formally charged, you are spectacularly uninformed. As in never bothered to watch a cop show or got a parking ticked level of uninformed. Forget IRL experience. |
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This ain't nothing guise, you'll be fine...
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Lol, who's your daddy?  Hiya! I hope you guys don't have your hearts set on trading any time soon. Ken didn't promise you that you'll be trading within a week the last time he broke radio silence.
No.
He promised that he'll *START* moving your shares in a week,Ken is a perfectionist. Can't rush perfection. No telling when he'll be finished We are selling Ukyo shares on Crypto-Trade to recover our losses on Bitfunder.
We will start moving Investors shares to Crypto-Trade within the next 7 days.
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What about our shares??!!!
We will start the process of verifying the shares tomorrow. Thank you Ken, you don't disappoint. Keep the awesomeness coming! |
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Guys... Ken accidentally your shares...
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Lol, I trust you, OP!  |
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Actually that guy has been spamming the same message since January 23rd. The identical same post, he's posted it in multiple threads. Looks like rather strange behaviour.
The only other two people I've seen mention a refund request got them processed with no problems.
I don't see any issue atall. If there was I would be the first to make a scene and everyone else on this thread would also make a scene because we expect this company to act professionally. And on all counts it has done so.
Every company gets complaints sent to consumer protection - that's business. More often than not it's due to irrational customers or customers who have not contacted the correct phone number/email address or misplaced letters etc etc. There is no-way this customer phoned VMC for a month and couldn't get through. Everyone else gets through first time including myself. And I don't have a special phone, it's just a regular one...with numbers on it.
Why not drop by his Scam Accusations thread and rage at him? I agree there's something fishy about the guy - would a normal d00d order from Ken in the first place?  |
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This is the guy who got a full refund. Oh OK thanks for bringing that guy up again.
Fresh topic started today in Scam Accusations. Just because you're up on all of Ken's scammings doesn't mean that some n00b with coin to spare won't want to see this. &lol @ your "one disgruntled customer" edit. One customer disgruntled enough to report Ken to the Attorney General |
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So many pigeons... AKA Another Happy Customer Hello bitcoin miners! I talked on this website about VMC and asked had anyone received a miner from VMC yet? All said no, and also the fact that Kenneth Slaughter had not given his trusting prepaying customers updates as to WHY we did not get the miners on time. I phoned and emailed until blue in the face, and then went to the forum to see who else was not getting answerers! Kenneth who before getting my money would reply to emails and answer the phone. Once he got the money I could not get him to reply to email or phone even after a month of trying. BECAUSE I CONTACTED THE !! Office of the Attorney General Senior Advocate Consumer Protection Division P.O. Box 899|Jefferson City, MO 65102 E-Mail: Lesha.bommel@ago.mo.govTel: (573)-751-8810 |Fax: (573) 751-7948 He then got the message loud and clear and got MAD and canceled my order with VMC! I did not want that to happen but for him to reply to email and answer the phone ! I could not get him to talk to me so I went to Attorney General, and that is why he canceled my order!!! Kenneth that is no way to run a company, with people money that put blind faith in YOU.... Kenneth you should have told the people that the miners would be late and why! You cant just have your family run the company! MY experience in dealing with VMC would tell anyone JUST stay away from VMC they are not operating with the customers best interest at heart!!! |
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Sadly true. Look at what happened to pirateat40. Oh, yeah. Nothing. There's a civil suit by the SEC, which means the worst he'd have to do is return the money he stole and pay a fine. Anyone who had run a Ponzi scam of this size denominated in dollars would be looking at hard time and would probably now be awaiting trial from behind bars or, if bailed out, the bail would be enormous.
Has anyone bothered reporting it to the Police as a fraud though? Maybe it might have been ignored a while back (what is Bitcoin etc) but I doubt it would be now if it went to the right people with evidence. The SEC shares responsibility with the FBI and FinCEN for determining whether a crime has occurred, and the facts in the civil complaint they filed unambiguously state that Shavers was running an illegal Ponzi scam, which is a criminal as well as civil violation. Someone, somewhere in a position to prosecute considered it and chose not to do so, if not many someones. This is somewhat similar to how Full Tilt could and should have been prosecuted just for their Ponzi-like activity and criminal self-dealing, but instead, were prosecuted for running a poker site (technically mainly for using banks in doing so). Pirateat40 most likely cooperated in exchange for reduced/dropped charges. If he had dirt to trade, he probably did. |
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If that were something I wanted to do I would have to wait until the last minute. I have PMs from three current shareholders that wanted to increase their holdings and I am waiting on those responses as we speak.
Thanks
ORLY? I have PMs from three secret porn sites offering me 120% discounts! Don't miss out on this exciting opportunity! I'll buy your shares at 100% discount RIGHT NOW! Time's running out OP! |
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