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Rating system would be nice, plus if we're going to re-brand could we please see some samples or examples of what you're thinking of doing before we drop 50k Sling on something that the community may or may not even want?
Please show some samples or what name you're thinking of at least.
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To easy imo, just make a new address, or a new wallet and send your coins. Depending on how distant you want to make yourself from the bad rep.
If someone has 1 bad review out of thousands of good reviews, odds are they could still be trusted. I guess it depends how much bad rep you would want to get away from. |
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Well as I stated above, I don't see what prevents a market operator from just re-opening another market should things not go well. And my main concern (in light of the above), is - where is there any code that prevents or checks for collusion? How is there any way to know the market operator doesn't know the seller and/or actually isn't the seller too!? Otherwise Crave seems awesome and I hope it all does work out! Would be cool to see some pre-release, teaser screenshots if possible  |
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I think the idea is to consider the market operator as a clearing house and a middleman. And the 10k crave work as a collateral if something goes wrong.
Or maybe im wrong.
How is the 10k collateral? Could they just not set up another market (transfer funds to different wallet/identity) and resume under a new "market" ? |
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So tell me, I ordered a physical good, the order arrived but I said it didn't, who has to be the judge here? Who will protect me? (If I am the seller) For me, I would only buy digital goods with such a system, that I can download instantly, otherwise I would always require a trusted middleman (the market operator in this case).
This is where I would say people would have to rely on a rating/review system and only stay with trusted sellers, which goes against not using a trust based model, but also not much alternative. I don't really mind which market succeeds, and I think its helpful for people to have options should one or the other not be to an individual's liking. |
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Satoshi himself spoke against a third party system (also a basis behind decentralized cryptocurrency in general) in the bitcoin whitepaper: Commerce on the Internet has come to rely almost exclusively on financial institutions serving as
trusted third parties to process electronic payments. While the system works well enough for
most transactions, it still suffers from the inherent weaknesses of the trust based model. |
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By the way, we discussed this before but I really like the idea of having a market operator as a middleman. The trustless, "decentralized" markets doesn't fit in my logic, its just not realistic to me. There are thousands of ways abusing such a deal.
I like both market ideas. But I don't see though how there is "thousands of ways" to abuse a 2 party system controlled by the code/network. If buyer and seller both are not satisfied then neither gets their money out of escrow till an agreement is reached, simple as that, no third party to muck things up. Whereas a middleman can scam because they could be both - the market owner could also be the seller (or know the seller), thus doing whatever they want to steal from someone. |
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If possible, it would be great if there could be some kind of implementation of a reputation system for sellers. Because in dark markets reputation is everything and crucial for business transactions to happen
Edit: I think it would be easy to have a "star" rating system where it would show average out of 5 stars and the number of people that reviewed, or clicked a star rating. Problem is if that could be gamed somehow. That is why I previously suggested an i2p review site/forum. |
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It's kind of like saying what would happen to Japanese Yen, if there was no US Dollar.
People keep talking as if "altcoins" are something other or less than a bitcoin, when in fact they are also coins.
How could anyone expect anything different with opensource based projects?
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CLAM staking requires barely any CPU power. You just need internet and coins.
Oddly, it may also incentivize manufacturers to design for long-term durability, as opposed to planned obsolescence  At least that would be the way to maximize your stake potential, as more coins == more stakes I was referring to a Tamagotchi not having enough power (doesn't even have wifi), which I doubt it has enough. But this also poses a question in my mind. Would it be better for 1,000's of little "digital pets" staking 1 coin each. Or more per digital pet? Maybe it doesn't matter? I just thought maybe they would be split up better. I hope I wouldn't lose any of my little pets though lol. |
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Maybe you could have something like Tamagotchi's or little digital pets staking(digging?) for clams.
I know an order of magnitude of better hardware would be required, not sure if it can be made small enough yet.
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this coin in my opinion doesn't need to compete against other coins but if it works as good as you guys say. start going up against the big tor markets . if people start using it for actual commerce the market cap for sling would be a million easy. I think if it works its a matter of finding all the blogs where these dark net ppl chat. maybe offer an incentive for some of the best weed dealers or something to get the ball rolling.
Agreed, would be nice if we could fix the synch issues with the i2p wallet tho. I think we need more people on i2p and it would sync fine. Might try to set up a couple more computers just to have more i2p connections available, would help if other people could maybe do that too or get more connections up. I talked to some darknet people and sadly, they don't understand too well the concept of a trustless, autonomous/escrow based market YET. It will take time I guess, to explain how its a more simple and better way to conduct their business. If someone is good with graphics, maybe draw up an info/workflow graphic of how the market, transaction, escrow, messaging and coin works. Simplified, pictorial type education seems to work good. |
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Also, has anyone compiled the Windows QT and the headless daemon under Ubuntu? I've spent hours trying to get both compiled without success;
Connections are fine here for me. I compiled the Linux QT, went ok on Ubuntu 14.04 Remember it needs libsecp256k1 Did this: apt-get install qt5-default qt5-qmake qtbase5-dev-tools qttools5-dev-tools \
build-essential libboost-dev libboost-system-dev \
libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev \
libssl-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev
sudo apt-get install automake libtool git build-essential
git clone https://github.com/bitcoin/secp256k1
cd secp256k1
libtoolize
./autogen.sh
./configure
make
sudo make install
cd ..
sudo ldconfig
git clone https://bitbucket.org/dgslayer/sling.git
cd ~/sling
qmake "USE_UPNP=-"
make
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Wondering where the dev has been, would be nice if he could show us some activity.
Unfortunately I'm having to get on with quite a lot of things outside of crypto but will attempt to keep this project moving along as often as possible, however in the meantime I was approached by a designer who is prepared to give SLING a rebrand / relook. This would include new ANN graphics, logo and even wallet skin for a new style wallet. As usual if you want something good you have to pay for it... meaning... he won't work for free,.but he has accepted to provide work for a % of SLING instead of Btc. Would the community be willing to donate SLING for a professional (high quality) styled relook? If you can please state how much you can contribute and let's get it done using somebody trusted for escrow. We can work in a name change for the market (at the very least) if not the whole project at the same time. I will start with 5000 SLING as my contribution. What is the main reason for re-branding? What names are you coming up with? Can't we just drop "road" off the market name? Just name it all "SLING" & Sling Market. You (or someone) did the work already on the graphics. |
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there is no one buying in, fake pump have stop so all the activity. almost 4 hours and less then 1btc in action
In that case, I'll just watch for a dump show. |
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It is amazing that people will buy in at this price, especially with no real working platform yet lol.
When should they after the release and its already pumped on the rumors before? You do need to be in on it before the releases hit. Its already pumped now, before any release.. so why buy at all? |
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It is amazing that people will buy in at this price, especially with no real working platform yet lol.
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My opinion on issues with this coin,
1. How are payments going to be enforced or conflicts between auction winner and seller resolved?
2. Will listings be on the blockchain?
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You can say whatever you want, but if people want an OSS decentralized marketplace, that's not going to be brought down by authorities
 So clueless and unaware. What? Like they've brought down torrenting and have destroyed other decentralized tech? Hardly not. Sounds like you're scared and don't look at reality - possibly you work with some agency? |
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It doesn't matter what you "believe", what matters is if people are actually using the coin and inherent value is being placed.
You can say whatever you want, but if people want an OSS decentralized marketplace, that's not going to be brought down by authorities or have some kind of b.s. operators scamming people and running away with money -
Then that's what the people will get !!
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