Truly demolish summary to the Rock trading. Thanks.
I'm still in contention mode. This isn't yet an all means war. Perhaps they will realize that my money doesn't justify ending in jail, getting the Rock license revoked and paying a fine.
But it seems inevitable that I'll give them both (Paci is in this too: actually it was him who wrote I didn't have to send my documents but they would keep my money much more time, but with eliale agreement) negative feedback and post their pics, names and other information on the investigation board under vile big capital letters.
Sorry but, we cannot by European laws bypass AML/KYC compliance rules. Also, in you specific case, we do have to verify if you are the real owner of the account for your protection (if you are the real owner) Thank you
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I have no doubts that I will have to go to the Italian Police. They can rest assure, I will.
Please, do so in order to solve the problem. At least they'll contact us, forward your information and we will be glad to release your funds. Thank you!
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we have been around since 2011 as you can see on my profile on this chat.... I don't need to create false accounts in such a naive way.... Sorry, but security requests stays the same. Thank you
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I think the reason most people haven't posted in this thread is because they see you throwing your toys while there is a simple solution.
Give them the identification they are requesting and you get the crypto.
I can only see two reasons that you would not give them ID
1) You don't want to (Maybe because it is illicit earnings or tax dodging)
2) You can't (It either isn't your account , you gave a fake identity in the first place or live in a country that is excluded by their TOS)
It doesn't make them a scammer.
as simple as that....
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yes, I agree with you. It is quite suspicious you do not want to provide us information requested in consideration of the amount involved......
will see.
You think this is funny? That you can do what you want with the accounts of the people whose money you hold without having to explain your acts? You have another opportunity to show your reasons to block the OP withdrawals without saying anything to him and start asking for his papers when he complained. If you keep refusing to answer you can count with some feedback from me. Only scammers block accounts with no reason. No, it is not funny... No reasons? Prtecting funds of the account owner is a very important reason for us. As a matter of fact it is the most important....
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yes, I agree with you. It is quite suspicious you do not want to provide us information requested in consideration of the amount involved......
will see.
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Holdings on the account belongs to the owner of the account and not to us.
Provide your information to us or, if you don't trust us to the police and I'll be more than happy to release the funds and close this issue.
Thank you
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Sorry,
we cannot compromise security issues.
Being the oldest exchange still in existance means we do keep security as our top priority
In order to release your funds we must verify your identity for your protection (and everybody else)
Thank you
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Again, we cannot lower our security standards.If we do have a suspect that you are not the account owner, we must verify your identity for your protection. Historically, in similar cases, the real owner is quite happy about security procedures implemented for his/her protection. On the countrary, hackers dislike it and make it vocal in order to try to put pressure..... As far as our TOS/FAQ, please read: https://support.therocktrading.com/kb/faq.php?id=64"per our sole discretion we can require additional informations or documents despite the status" and TOS https://www.therocktrading.com/en/service_terms/3Chapter 8 3. In the event of anomalous or not completely transparent operations on the User's account, TRT may request further information from the User, including but not limited to document authentication, and may also freeze all transactions pending the performance of the appropriate checks on the account. 4. TRT is entitled to block, suspend and close accounts of Users who have not been properly verified, notwithstanding any useful efforts by TRT to contact the User and urge the completion of the due verification process. I'm positive, that you are the real owner of the account and be happy to comply with our requests! Thank you
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Sorry, while I can understand your point of view, in order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify your real identity before releasing your funds which are available. Refusing to do so, it only raise our concerns about the real ownership of the account. So, please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue. As an alternative, if you do not want to provide requested information to us, you may contact the Italian police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will be ok because we do have the guarantee they checked your Identity which, obviously will be forwarded to us.... It only takes longer but it is your choice. Thank you Andrea Medri TRT CFO EDIT: post dated 11/11/2020Dear readers, this morning, as anticipated, we filed a formal criminal complaint for aggravated defamation against Coinfan. Unfortunately, over the past two years, we have tried countless times to persuade the defendant to proceed with the identification for two simple reasons: 1) Verify that she was the real owner of the account 2) Comply with the regulations in force that require us to do this Our requests turned out to be in vain. Several times we have urged Coinfan to take legal action against us with our aim of obtaining what is requested but, despite the fact that he has declared several times that he has done so, the waiting for the promised act continues. At the same time, on this chat and in several others, the same has always maintained a seriously harmful and defamatory attitude towards us, hiding behind anonymity. Consequently, unfortunately, our act is due in order to protect our interests, those of our members and show that we have nothing to hide. At the following link G drive you will find a copy of the deed from which, for obvious reasons, we have hidden sensitive data: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharingIn this folder, we will upload any relevant documents about the case. We will shortly notify the legal department of Bitcointalk about the legal procedure. It is up to them to decide how to handle the fact. We know that Coinfan will try to "hide" this statement by writing several messages after this. For this reason, unless bitcointalk decides to freeze this chat, we will resume our declaration from time to time. As you can understand, we will not discuss this issue with the community as there is an ongoing judicial investigation but, we will limit ourselves only to updating you of any possible development Andrea Medri The Rock Trading srl
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Sorry, while I can understand your point of view, in order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify your real identity before releasing your funds which are available.
Refusing to do so, it only raise our concerns about the real ownership of the account.
So, please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.
As an alternative, if you do not want to provide requested information to us, you may contact the Italian police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will be ok because we do have the guarantee they checked your Identity which, obviously will be forwarded to us.... It only takes longer but it is your choice.
Thank you
Andrea Medri TRT CFO
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data la presenza degli sviluppatori nel thread, mi permetto di fare i complimenti per l'ottimo exchange, sperando che non si montino la testa e combinino dei guai!
Detto questo, vorrei chiedere se c'è in programma l'apertura di scambi per altre valute (es monero, dash sono fra quelle cui sono più interessato) e la possibilità di scambiare bitcoincash direttamente in FIAT.
Un'ultima cosa riguarda Ripple, dato che sono quasi un neofita e non mi è chiaro il funzionamento della moneta. Mi chiedevo se RockTrading richieda il pagamento dei 20 Ripple che vengono richiesti dai wallet delle rete e se è possibile ricevere transazioni in Ripple direttamente nell'indirizzo Rock. Grazie
I guai li combiniamo lo stesso anche senza montarci la testa Si, in futuro prevediamo nuovi pairs. Probabilmente, il primo sara' appunto bitcoincash contro euro. Per Ripple vedo che ti hanno gia' risposto
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Ciao Eliale,
grazie del chiarimento.
Gentilmente potresti anticiparci i valori delle quote che a breve liquiderete?
Verranno rispettati i termini del buy back che avete indicato alla sottoscrizione?
Il fatto di non avere proprio trattato l'argomento nonostante le ripetute richieste dei precedenti post, m'inquieta un pó...
Grazie e buon lavoro.
Axlrose72
Non essere inquieto :-) Vengono trattatate direttamente con i detentori delle quote
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No, per quello dobbiamo ancora elaborare il tutto
Grazie
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Una precisazione.... non si tratta di stock trading (azionario) ma di unita' emesse all'interno del gioco di Second Life diversi anni fa cosi come specificato nei nostri TOS articoli 9 e 10: 9. The Rock Virtual Stock Exchange is not a real-world stock exchange and does not offer opportunity for direct real-world investment or profit. Shares/units purchased on this Virtual Simulation stock exchange do not entitle you to any legal real-world rights to a listed virtual company. The Rock Virtual Stock Exchange is not responsible for the content and results of listed entities
10. We reserve the right to terminate services at any time for any reason.
https://www.therocktrading.com/en/pages/terms_of_serviceIn ogni caso, seguendo il nostro forum, stiamo procedendo al buy back graduale delle unita' dove previsto Grazie Ciao Eliale, mi fà piacere che sei venuto qui sul Forum a fare chiarezza, a dimostrazione della serietà che Vi ha sempre contraddistinto. Volevo avere un chiarimento sulla tua precisazione, perchè sul Vostro sito ho trovato un post di Vella che dice esattamente il contrario: https://therocktrading.com/en/topics/ipo--2Nella nota messa in evidenza al punto A) si dice testualmente: PLEASE NOTE: a) This proposal, being in Bitcoin only and offered on our website, does not interfere or has anything to do with Second Life ltd and its TOS.b) The Rock maintain the right to call back all issued bonds at its own discretion at a nominal price of 1 bitcoin per unit. Non è mia intenzione cmq fare polemiche, a me (ed a tutti gli azionisti) quello che interessa è rientrare in possesso dei NOSTRI BITCOIN... Converrai con me che, come avete deciso di chiudere il market dall'oggi al domani senza un giorno di preavviso, dover aspettare i Vostri tempi tecnici (3 mesi!) non mi sembra equo e tantomeno corretto, alla luce del fatto che nel frattempo i vari fork sono stati impropriamente incassati da Voi.
Quello che ti chiedo molto sinteticamente adesso è: 1) Riusciremo ad avere i nostri Bitcoin prima del 16 Novembre, o incasserete anche questo fork alla nostra salute? 2) Nel mio caso che sono detentore di quote BFRB il buy back garantito è questo: Guarantee buy back at 0.97 Bitcoin cents o devo aspettarmi ulteriori sorprese??? Resto in attesa e ti ringrazio anticipatamente per la risposta. Axlrose72 Si esatto, quando avevamo emesso queste unita' nel periodo di second life, abbiamo dovuto fare un disclaimer che non interferivano con i TOS di allora di SL. Oggi non saprei.... La data del 16, come oramai sappiamo, e' risultata essere una prevedibile bufala.... In ogni caso prevediamo di liquidare le posizioni nella settimana entrante (salvo contrattempi burocratici ad oggi non evidenti) Grazie!
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Una precisazione.... non si tratta di stock trading (azionario) ma di unita' emesse all'interno del gioco di Second Life diversi anni fa cosi come specificato nei nostri TOS articoli 9 e 10: 9. The Rock Virtual Stock Exchange is not a real-world stock exchange and does not offer opportunity for direct real-world investment or profit. Shares/units purchased on this Virtual Simulation stock exchange do not entitle you to any legal real-world rights to a listed virtual company. The Rock Virtual Stock Exchange is not responsible for the content and results of listed entities
10. We reserve the right to terminate services at any time for any reason.
https://www.therocktrading.com/en/pages/terms_of_serviceIn ogni caso, seguendo il nostro forum, stiamo procedendo al buy back graduale delle unita' dove previsto Grazie
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I earned some money by your affiliate program. But the money I earned is still displayed under "Total Reward" column and not "Already paid". When will you give me the money I earned referring users to your website?
You do need to open a ticket and we will credit your funds Thank you
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BCH mi piace un casino, sarebbe bello se ci fosse, oltre a BCHBCT, anche il cambio BCHEUR su TRT. Essendo BCH la terza cripto per capitalizzazione, manca proprio. Qualcuno sa se la cosa è magari già in ballo?
Ciao, si e' previsto
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