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201  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 04, 2012, 01:25:36 PM
No, the cat is going to be the rockstar, the dog already cured cancer and won a Nobel Prize.
202  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 04, 2012, 05:01:27 AM
But, as you observed, trashing them here is probably not the best way to get a favorable consideration on asking them to make an exception for you. Few businesses I am aware of want to be insulted in public with their target audience listening and are then willing to bend over backwards to make exceptions for you. Maybe that's just my experience, but it does go to that whole honey versus vinegar argument.
How low do you think he will have to bow to get his money back? Will any shoe licking be required?

Dunno- kowtowing is not my department.

Best I can tell from his (jasinlee's) comments he has shot himself in the metaphorical foot with GLBSE. My guess, and this is only a guess, is that Nefario and the rest of Team GLSBE is done with listening to insults from minor league biznessmen who believe telling somebody to go fuck themselves is a good opening gambit in negotiation. It has been pretty clear for a while now that GLBSE can and will change the rules, and will react to anti-social comments spread around. Who seriously thinks that having Goat's public immolation is the way to get your way when requesting anything from anybody. Shoot yourself in the head first, then insult the other guy and only then ask questions? Really? Jasinlee might have a chance, with some mea culpas and a little politeness, while I suspect that Goat's hooves will freeze to the rice paddies on account of Hell freezing over before he sees a dime.
203  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 04, 2012, 04:52:02 AM

yeah, LG does not like me. Not sure why but meh...   I mean really who cares.

I enjoy your posts Reeses even though you publicly call me a dick:)  you are smart enough to know why I'm a dick, LG just seems to not be sure why and frolics about...

Actually, Goat, I just use the common public understanding of why you are a dick.

You are a chaser. A desperate little failure of a loser who, failing to have any original useful ideas of his own, chases after whatever the hot trending topic or idea is and tries to figure out a way to monetize it for yourself. From solidcoin to pirate's pass throughs to PPCoin to i0coin to assets on GLBSE, you are always Johnny Come Lately, ten minutes after the buzz has peaked, begging other users to teach you how it all works, and then throwing half-assed attempts at mimicry around for the unsuspecting to get caught.

You seem to honestly believe that nobody can see through your lame copycat skillz, and that just because you don't understand something, everyone will forgive and forget, and sign up to teach you the next thing. You are a classic shiny object follower, and bring absolutely nothing of value to the community, the bitcoin experience, or any discussion you are a part of.

That's precisely why most people think you are a dick. Smart ones, and not so smart ones can pretty much see that you are a leech, sucking away on the lifeblood of anything you can attach yourself to, without the courage to stand up for anything.
204  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 04, 2012, 04:43:08 AM
Protected? As in following his TOS with you? That's why there is no scammer tag, which has been explained to you. In public.

Can you point out what I did wrong to be completely ignored by his service? I should setup a site where I offer to list securities, offer it with a fee for "verification" and once I have the bitcoins I will be happy to state you should have read my laggy, terrible site with 0 assistance or explanation for anything. And since you did not or could not then I will be keeping your bitcoins.

With respect to your rhetorical question form of communicating- I can't tell you everything you did wrong, or anything that you did right. I'm not a part of your discussion with GLBSE. What I can tell you is that you are spending your efforts in the wrong place if you want to debate GLBSE policy on this forum. GLBSE has their own sites and communication methods, which I am sure you are aware of. Part of their agreement with all users, both asset creators, and trading customers, is that you will communicate with them through their methods, and that they categorically do not reply to communications in this forum or to PM's sent through it.

Without offering an opinion if that policy is right or wrong, I note that you are directing your comments towards them in the wrong venue. Here, they don't care, and have told you that. Same thing for Goat's little drama. He refuses to accept that this is not the place for the discussion, and failing to communicate with them, as he agreed to when he started using their service, he is shocked and awed when things don't go his way. You can choose to be as publicly ignorant as him, or you can take your issues up with the folks that can address them, in the place they have told you they will address them.

But, as you observed, trashing them here is probably not the best way to get a favorable consideration on asking them to make an exception for you. Few businesses I am aware of want to be insulted in public with their target audience listening and are then willing to bend over backwards to make exceptions for you. Maybe that's just my experience, but it does go to that whole honey versus vinegar argument.
205  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 04, 2012, 04:25:19 AM
Protected? As in following his TOS with you? That's why there is no scammer tag, which has been explained to you. In public.
206  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 04, 2012, 12:07:28 AM
tl;dr You have issues with Goat. You made that point already, though - so much that Helen Keller could have gleaned it from this forum.

Hey, thanks for your insightful comments there youngster, but you missed the point because of your cavalier "tl;dr". It is not about an issue with Goat, it is an issue with criminals bringing their criminal acts and executing them on the bitcoin community. I was offering a clarification to MPOE who mis-stated where Goat is located, a point which has significant bearing on the topic of this discussion.

Interesting that you choose to suck up for Goat so quickly after your defense of usagi and his/her scams with value manipulation. You certainly want to establish a reputation as an apologist for criminal fuck-wits don't you? Or are you just a full time sock puppet scammer-lover who thinks all the bad guys are your boyfriend?

Chances are if Helen Keller were alive today she would have a conversion program that would read the post to her out load, or convert it to braille, so her "gleaning it" really doesn't do much as analogy.

tl;dr I'm a sock-puppet scammer apologist.  Tongue

And don't talk bad about Goat and usagi - they paid me convinced me of their legitimacy long ago!

If those two were able to convince you in the 34 days since you joined this august company that they are legitimate, and you consider that long ago... well, I hope you are able to get a good price on the GULLIBLE tattoo when they stencil it across your forehead. But? Three posts a day? You go little sock-puppet.
207  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Accounts Manager Resigns From Bitcoin Magazine on: October 03, 2012, 11:28:12 PM
He wanted the next album to be Some Girls, the rest of the Board wanted it to be Exile on Main Street.
208  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 03, 2012, 11:27:04 PM
tl;dr You have issues with Goat. You made that point already, though - so much that Helen Keller could have gleaned it from this forum.

Hey, thanks for your insightful comments there youngster, but you missed the point because of your cavalier "tl;dr". It is not about an issue with Goat, it is an issue with criminals bringing their criminal acts and executing them on the bitcoin community. I was offering a clarification to MPOE who mis-stated where Goat is located, a point which has significant bearing on the topic of this discussion.

Interesting that you choose to suck up for Goat so quickly after your defense of usagi and his/her scams with value manipulation. You certainly want to establish a reputation as an apologist for criminal fuck-wits don't you? Or are you just a full time sock puppet scammer-lover who thinks all the bad guys are your boyfriend?

Chances are if Helen Keller were alive today she would have a conversion program that would read the post to her out load, or convert it to braille, so her "gleaning it" really doesn't do much as analogy.
209  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 03, 2012, 10:46:01 PM

Unless the SEC is now operating out of Viet-Nam I find it rather incredible that goat's being investigated. Were you thinking GLBBQ?

Actually, Goat operates his business ventures out of Thailand, not Viet Nam. Offering investment vehicles, no matter how obscure or crypto-alien will still subject Goat, as a US citizen, to US law regarding securities trading and offering regardless of where he is located, the force of law is upon where the offer was made and where the sale was concluded. Furthermore, and perhaps even more to the point, is the taxation treaty between the US and Thailand, which essentially grants unlimited license to US agencies to pursue legal action to enforce US law upon persons of Thai or US citizenship operating out of Thailand. Signed into law by Clinton, Goat will find himself as answerable to the SEC as if he was offering his investments in Bumfuck, Kansas. He will find the further entanglement of the Thai Foreign Business Act, which makes his rice-farming venture illegal, will make him a prime target for the Thai authorities, if there is anything left when the US is done with him.

And if indeed pirate is rolling over and giving up his partners in the BS&T scam, then Goat has a lot to be worried about. He has consistently been the loudest and most active voice in support of pirate and the ponzi which pirate operated. He has personally transferred significant amounts of value to pirate directly as a result of these activities, and is being actively investigated as a part of the greater pirate BS&T investigation. Where Goat might want to consider a non-extradition country to move to, is the fact that the SEC will also be forwarding their investigation to other agencies within the US government. The DEA will be very interested in any sort of money laundering activity that was happening near the Golden Triangle, and Goat has openly admitted that he travels across borders with ease to visit remote areas of Laos and Cambodia. American entrepreneurs who travel with that profile typically only do so for a very limited number of reasons, none of which have anything to do with rice farming, gem collecting or bitcoins.
210  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [ANN] Btc4x.com - First Forex to accept Bitcoin! on: October 03, 2012, 04:10:15 PM
For what it is worth, highly leveraged speculative trading, based on, or funded by, an easily manipulated, theoretically valued measure of worth has never been successful. Every single attempt in this community has led to a collapse, and the inevitable cries of scam, without regard to how pure the motives or a personal IP registration extending to 14 months.

Forex without the added complication of bitcoin is already a very, very questionable marketplace, Throw in bitcoin and the gang of bandits looking at it as a personal checkbook filled with millions of other people's money and you have a surefire recipe for disaster.
211  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 03, 2012, 04:04:02 PM
You find nothing wrong with selling a service and then not fully doing it?

Depends entirely on the nature of the service contracted for, which in this case you are unsure of what you have purchased. You have an obligation to yourself, and to those who have invested in your projects to understand completely the venue in which you are offering that investment. Whether by your own inattention to the rules, your inability to stay abreast of changes in the terms, or your own ill-considered attack on the market you have failed in your responsibility to your investors and have not maintained even the most basic level of integrity in offering a service.

How is your  ill-informed and half-cocked approach to running a business deserving of special consideration that you should be permitted to be completely irresponsible and still enjoy access to the marketplace? The service of the GLBSE is to provide a marketplace, NOT to insure you a certian level of profit, NOT to offer you endless access to victims for your piss-poor business practices, NOT to cover for your errors in judgement, ethics, or simple basic business procedure, and most assuredly NOT a place of refuge for somebody who is actively being investigated by the SEC for fraudulently offering investment schemes.

"Not fully doing it" is not based on your fantasies of allowing you to run roughshod over every measure of business ethics and honest trade. Your practices have caught up with you, and you are beginning to see the collapse and investigation phase of your demise. Get used to it, it will get a lot uglier for you here, and your pathetic cries of injustice are falling on deaf ears here. Especially given that you are screaming in the wrong place- THIS IS NOT GLBSE. Although there is significant overlap in user bases, THIS IS NOT GLBSE. Take your issues over to GLBSE and see what happens. Here you are just another scammer trying to screw a few more pennies out of everyone, after you have had the door slammed in your face.

Too bad for you little scammer boy.
212  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 03, 2012, 04:23:01 AM
Oddly enough, you are in the wrong place to make those demands. GLBSE has a forum, and ownership, and means of communication. If you feel you have a claim to make, why not make it with those involved instead of airing your dirty laundry here, where nobody who can do a thing for you gives a damn?

And are you really admitting that you started several assets, offered them for sale, managed them to varying levels of success and failure and did all of this WITHOUT AN AWARENESS OF THE TERMS OF SERVICE? Is that responsible business operation in your opinion? Seriously Goat, isn't understanding what you are offering and where you are offering it sort of basic step number one?
213  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-09-27 - US Calls Julian Assange and WikiLeaks 'Enemy Of State' on: October 03, 2012, 04:19:02 AM
Importantly, and sadly, predictable.
214  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario GLBSE on: October 02, 2012, 10:58:29 PM
I expect that Goatse is pretty busy these days dealing with an SEC investigation, and doesn't really have time to manage his other little scams like this particular complaint.
215  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Vending Machine on: October 02, 2012, 06:45:23 AM
You get back a sooty canary out of the coal mine.

I put in a firehose.
216  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 02, 2012, 06:37:01 AM
Sorry Tom Cruise err, Rarity, no offense intended. So, care to cite the source for your apparently accurate diagnosis, without fraudulent overtones?
217  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-10-01 wired.com - 3-D Printer Company Seizes Machine From Desktop Gunsmith on: October 02, 2012, 06:34:11 AM
And why make it a one-timer? Polymer frames are a reality today.
218  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-09-27 - US Calls Julian Assange and WikiLeaks 'Enemy Of State' on: October 02, 2012, 06:32:48 AM
C'mon now, be fair... the US has killed Saddam, they have killed Osama, Castro is out of office for the most part, nobody knows who the hell is in charge in China, Putin is a huge case of been there, stomped that... who is left to be a villain? You cannot be the gods of the modern world, and the single most important society in the history of our species without somebody to paint as the bad guy- so we worked our way down to Assange on the list of mastermind bad guys. What's not to love about him as the enemy? He's European (like the French), he uses technology (like that interwebz thing and that's where all the kiddy pr0n is) he kicks kittens to death (well, maybe not, but it's a damn good accusation to get the soccer mom vote) he has an accent (and all bad guys since Boris Badinof have accents, sheesh, everybody knows that!) and he wears those faggy emo looking suits with the puffy shoulders (real men wear football pads, and don't need women's shoulder pads to make them look cool) and he is a huge threat to national security (because that is vague and really scary sounding, so that shit will STICK!!)

That evil bastard is lucky we don't just maverick his ass with a little late night drone action, or extreme rendition his ass in one of our friendly Club Rendition vacation spots in Albania or Romania or Tasmania, or wherever the hell they are.
219  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [ANN] Btc4x.com - First Forex to accept Bitcoin! on: October 02, 2012, 06:23:07 AM
Isn't it odd that a company with offices in 6 countries only gets 165 results in a Google search and only registered their domain in April this year?

Why yes, yes it certainly is! Walks like a bitcoinica, quacks like a bitcoinica, offers absurd levels of leveraging like a bitcoinica and is managed by unknowns who are backed by even deeper unknowns just like a bitcoinica. Unknowns who hold over twice the total of all customers trade portfolios as security? Sure, probably in an unencrypted hot wallet whose password is "password" with a big-ass neon sign saying Hack Me Please!!!

Thanks for playing, have a good life, don't get fooled again.
220  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 02, 2012, 06:16:02 AM
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Sure, ghosts, spirits whatever you want to call them.  I've seen a shadow person when I was pretty young.  Was as big as the doorway.

Dank, do you ever feel suspicious around friends, family, or teachers without good reason?  Do you ever experience odd sensations like being confused if a dream is real, wondering if people can read your mind, finding connections between unrelated events, or frequent experiences of deja vu or unreality?  Do sounds seem louder than they should sometimes, do you find that everyday noises sound like words with hidden special meaning?  Do the shadow people visit you often?  Do you ever find yourself using odd combinations of words?

I see what you did there Rarity... may I backstop the effort for those players who might not have your familiarity with DSM Criteria:

Diagnostic criteria for schizophrenia

To be diagnosed with schizophrenia, a person must meet the criteria spelled out in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). This manual is published by the American Psychiatric Association and is used by mental health providers to diagnose mental conditions.

Diagnosis of schizophrenia involves ruling out other mental health disorders and determining that symptoms aren't due to substance abuse, medication or a medical condition. In addition, a person must:

    Have at least two of the common symptoms of the disorder — delusions, hallucinations, disorganized speech, disorganized or catatonic behavior, or presence of negative symptoms for a significant amount of time during one month
    Experience significant impairment in the ability to work, attend school or perform normal daily tasks
    Have had symptoms for at least six months

There are several subtypes of schizophrenia, but not everyone easily fits into a specific category. The five most common subtypes are:

    Paranoid. Characterized by delusions and hallucinations, this type generally involves less functional impairment and offers the best hope for improvement.
    Catatonic. People with this subtype don't interact with others, get into bizarre positions, or engage in meaningless gestures or activities.
    Disorganized. Characterized by disorganized thoughts and inappropriate expressions of emotion, this type generally involves the most functional impairment and offers the least hope for improvement. Ding, ding ding!!! we have a winner!!!
    Undifferentiated. This is the largest group of people with schizophrenia, whose dominant symptoms come from more than one subtype.
    Residual. This type is characterized by extended periods without prominent positive symptoms, but other symptoms continue.
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