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Also please remember that Darkcoin did very out of keeping its Darksend closed source for so long. it was in the top five cryptocoins by market capitalisation for a good while and it's still currently listed as in eighth place. The ANC devs aim to have Zerocoin on the main-net in about six weeks time. Why not start to release the code then with an eight week lag. Instead of the two week lag starting on September the 17th.
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Other upcoming dates:
September 15: the RSA UFO project ends, participants are rewarded, and the server source is released to our Github.
September 17: the first Zerocoin commits get pushed to our Github (Anoncoin/anoncoin, "zc" branch). As I said before, the public Github will lag 2 weeks behind active development in our private repository; this is to make things more difficult for copycat coins.
I agree with you. I don't think anyone wants ANC to be closed source after main net launch. We are talking only about the current period before and during test-net. During that period trust is not an issue because main-net remains unaffected. We just don't want anyone to launch before us. Launching after us based on our code is both okay and unpreventable. I think all of us agree that ANC should be completely open source once Zerocoin reaches main net. This being an open source project. If I would very much prefer to build from source whatever experimental anonymity project I would be testing. If the devs of the clone coins were serious about building a superior ZC implementation they would have collaborated with the Anoncoin team. There is nothing but paranoia and a very unhealthy fear cloning that is feeding this lunacy. Even if somehow a different team managed to complete an accelerated implementation of our work, one month is an insignificant time to gain a strong lead in building the infrastructure to support it. Anoncoin already has the respect from the i2p community and a flawless reputation. Lots of of anoncoin supporters are programmers that will jump on the chance to build infrastructure for a vibrant community. the reality is that other copy cats will be supported by shills and traders and will follow the classic PnD trajectory. Yeah but they're not implementing a one month delay are they? AFAIK they said they'd only be having a two week delay to opening the ANC Zerocoin github. A one month delay would be better or maybe even the full six weeks until the devs plan to have Zerocoin on the main-net would be best. There's already a slew of PnD coins promising Zerocoin in their IPO. While I feel they waiting on every second until that github starts to go public. Off course the coin needs to be 100% opensource to be fully peer-reviewed and to help the wider cryptocoin ecosystem. Lets just make sure that Anoncoin gets all the credit first for developing it. By having Zerocoin on the main-net while slowly releasing the github with at least a six week delay. Would give plenty of time for Anoncoin to benefit from the first to market effect. I haven't read from one major cryptocoin news outlet or blog yet anything about Anoncoin or even anything really about zerocoin itself in quite some time. While this has been a major challenge for over a year now in anyone implementing a Zerocoin or Zerocash protocol. And Zerocoin has long been seen as the holy grail for true transaction anonymity that so many cryptocoin'ers have been looking for. Far more anonymous than the CoinJoin protocol of Darkwallet, Darkcoin, and Blockchain.info shared-coin. Plus even more anonymous than the ring-signatures technique of cryptonote coins like Monero and Bytecoin. I just feel that I want to make sure that Anoncoin gets all the credit where the credit is due. Just let's all let the news get out and for Anoncoin to take the credit. In about six weeks time when they plan to have Zerocoin on the main-net that should be pretty big news in the crypto world. And a good time to start making the ANC Zerocoin github public for the much needed peer-review. That's my feeling and opinion anyway although in the devs we trust. |
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Other upcoming dates:
September 15: the RSA UFO project ends, participants are rewarded, and the server source is released to our Github.
September 17: the first Zerocoin commits get pushed to our Github (Anoncoin/anoncoin, "zc" branch). As I said before, the public Github will lag 2 weeks behind active development in our private repository; this is to make things more difficult for copycat coins.
Yeah, maybe extending the two week time lag of the ANC Zerocoin github going public is not a bad idea IMO. Maybe until it's at least on the test-net or possibly even until it's on the main-net. What's the timetable for the myriad fork and have all three or all five chains been chosen yet? |
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I'm currently making good progress on Zerocoin. I'm almost finished with adding RSA UFO support to the library, and then I can move onto other aspects of it, such as storage of zerocoins in wallets. I'll give an update on Saturday, September 13 about when I expect Zerocoin to be code complete. If no major problems are discovered, it won't be long before a hard fork where we actually add ZC support to Anoncoin and you all can start using minting and spending zerocoins.  When I started this project, I wanted to be completely transparent, and so all the commits were done in a public Github repository. Well, now I think that was a naive decision, since there is a lot of copying of features between coins. Therefore, I will release commits to the public on a 2 week lagging schedule. Since the first private commits were on September 3, you'll see those commits on Github on September 17 (8 days from now). They will be in the "zc" branch of our repo: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/tree/zcI think this is a good balance between transparency and business sense. It's not good to go to the extreme that Darkcoin went to, where they kept their DarkSend feature closed-source long after production software was released. Also, see my last update, if you missed it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8599297#msg8599297Is this why the ANC price has been rising steadily these last few days. I know we've had a few false starts over the last few months, but it doesn't look like ANC currently has any real or solid competitors to implementing Zerocoin so far AFAIK. The few PnD coins I have seen released recently promising Zerocoin haven't mentioned utilizing RSA UFO's. And look like they just want to rip ANC's GitHub. |
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Is there any timetable for implementing the auxPoW myriad yet. Also I know Litecoin and Monero have been chosen plus that you was thinking of Primecoin too. Although have you decided on the other two auxPoW chains yet. The two biggest and strongest GPU chains not including Darkcoin are Feathercoin and Vertcoin. And I feel strongly that you should choose them two to give GPU miners a chance. TBF you could just settle for a three chain myriad of Litecoin, Monero and Feathercoin or Vertcoin. To open the mining up to the original Scrypt miners, CPU miners and GPU miners.
You dont choose a coin for AuxPoW, you select a algo for AuxPoW. Lets say we want that Litecoin ppl can MM Anoncoin, then all coins which have the same scrypt settings (regarind PoW) can also MM Anoncoin. Thanks for that, but it sounds like you're claiming that I don't know the difference between the terms Litecoin and Scrypt, or Monero and Cryptonight. Healthy networks must be chosen for the myriad hence using the names of the coins and network chain algorithms interchangeably. I do know that if ANC is arranged to merge-mine with the Monero chain then you could in effect choose any other Cryptonight chain to auxPoW with. Although the larger networks are a lot more favourable to target as it potentially brings in more merged-miners to in return strengthen ANC chosen myriad chains. https://minergate.com - already offers Cryptonight merged-mining. So maybe they'd be quick to implement ANC auxPoW with Cryptonight chains. |
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Is anyone still having issues withdrawing coins from Cryptsy? I know that the dust/stuck transactions recently got mined, (thanks K1773R cause you are a superstar), I just don't want to buy coins and have them get stuck. I'd rather be mining but c'est la vie. I love craptsy but hate it too. Only place that has a little bit of volume and some order books. Excited to see how things shape up by the end of the month! <3 i2p
I withdrew a few today no problems. |
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Is there any timetable for implementing the auxPoW myriad yet. Also I know Litecoin and Monero have been chosen plus that you was thinking of Primecoin too. Although have you decided on the other two auxPoW chains yet. The two biggest and strongest GPU chains not including Darkcoin are Feathercoin and Vertcoin. And I feel strongly that you should choose them two to give GPU miners a chance. TBF you could just settle for a three chain myriad of Litecoin, Monero and Feathercoin or Vertcoin. To open the mining up to the original Scrypt miners, CPU miners and GPU miners.
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Is the pool still moving to P2Pool as a back end. As P2Pool net hashrate is currently raising.
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how do you guys feel about miners a? are they important?
do you think algo needs updating with all recent to death to all profits mining thanks toasics and fpga
im still mining thro multifluttersite which buys for our future existance
I think they are important, it's why I'm here in the first place, I started off mining. I don't have much gear except for a few gpus and a few asics and never spent the money to move into big asic boxes. I don't think changing algorithms really gets you anything, except extending gpu use or cpu use. I do like how Myriad does mining though, where it has different diffs for cpu, gpu, asic. PoW also provides blockchain movement. If PoS stalls, you have PoW, if PoW stalls you have PoS, it's a good relationship to be in. Look at TEKcoin recently. No PoS blocks have staked in two weeks because of a bug in the stake code and they are trying to resolve the issue. They have PoW so the network continues to function, without miners, the coin would be dead. Yeah a five auxPoW chain myriad would be good and more secure. As then you'd need three of the five chains to be controlled and manipulated to affect the PoW. AuxPoW with Litecoin for scrypt to keep the current miners happy. While two CPU based chains like auxPoW with Monero and Primecoin. Then two GPU biased chains like auxPoW with Feathercoin soon to hash NeoScrypt and Vertcoin which will soon hash Lyra2. |
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I have five of the five board ~1Thps@~1.05kW Bitmine Swiss rigs and not the Chinese clones. These rigs can be down-volted for increased efficiency using the built in GUI. Looking at 2BTC per rig plus shipping which you will decide on and pay. We will ship these rigs by September 30th from Kansas City. They're currently hosted at $0.14USD per kWh paid in Bitcoin and you can choose to take over their US paid hosting which can be paid in bitcoin. Although you'll probably pay more than $0.14USD for a full managed service.
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Zerocoin update!First of all, I wanted to clear up any confusion with respect to Matthew Green and the other Zerocoin project members. The "new" Zerocoin, called "Zerocash", is based on completely different cryptography than the "old" Zerocoin (I will be implementing the old one). The Zerocoin project has essentially abandoned their previous idea in favor of Zerocash, and expect to release both the paper and the coin in late May. We are very grateful for the excellent work of the Zerocoin people in developing the original Zerocoin, however they have apparently chosen to ignore our communications, for unknown reasons. Fortunately, I have the knowledge needed to implement this without their help.  It is reasonable to ask why we are working on implementing the old Zerocoin when the cryptographers responsible for it are working on their own alt-coin implementing a new idea. There are two reasons: 1) there is no way of knowing for sure that this new Zerocash coin will be released on time, or will work correctly, and there is strong demand for a truly anonymous crypto-currency ASAP; and 2) the new Zerocash may be fatally dependent on a trustworthy party for setting up the initial parameters, as is suggested by my readings about zkSNARKs. It is an incredible stroke of luck that a workaround exists to this problem for the old Zerocoin (so-called "RSA UFOs", which I am working on at present), and it is likely that no workaround exists for Zerocash. I've heard this is not technically possible to start Zerocoin in a trustless manner and this is why Matthew Green and members abandoned the first Zercoin project. Are you just trolling or did you not even Google your username - When a zerocoin is minted, the coin is added as a member to the set of all zerocoins by way of a one-way cryptographic accumulator. In order to prove later that a given zerocoin belongs to this set, during the initial setup of the accumulator, it is necessary to define a number N that is the product of two prime numbers P and Q. If the prime numbers are large enough, it would be infeasible for any party to factor N to obtain knowledge of P and Q. However, if the party who setup the accumulator were to know these prime factors, then this party would be able to bypass the security of the system and forge zerocoin membership proofs. Anoncoin solves this setup problem by using RSA UFOs (generalized RSA moduli of unknown complete factorization) for the number N, which can be generated in a trustless manner. https://wiki.anoncoin.net/RSA_UFO |
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If you read back in the thread you will read that the RSA UFO generation will end around September the 15th. And that it was also stated that around then an announcement on the progress of the overall implementation of the ZC protocol will be announced.
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cdf's of 95% can happen and they do. I have a pair of am tubes they pull about 1.65 th I will run here for about 20 more days.
I do not mind the long wait for a block. A lot of good things can come by hanging in and mining here. Of course bad can also happen.
I've seen Bitminter have a 99.8% CDF block followed immediately by a 98.4% CDF block. How is the pools move over to adding P2Pool as a backend going. |
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Use either Counterparty, Ripple, Mastercoin or Stellar. Plus maybe make everyone verify themselves with a Google+ account. As I'm lead to believe that it's harder to create a fake Google+ account than a fake Facebook account.
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Can someone help me with this issue I got? I use OpenSuse and Ubuntu. And the latest builds tell me this: "error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.46.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory " I'm pretty sure it's not the problem of the build. And I can't even find the path to this shared lib. Got them installed though I would need to change the library path to get this issue solved sudo /sbin/ldconfig -v //didn'twork either /anoncoind: /lib64/libcrypto.so.1.0.0: no version information available (required by ./anoncoind)
./anoncoind: /lib64/libssl.so.1.0.0: no version information available (required by ./anoncoind)
libboost_filesystem.so.1.46.1 => not found
libboost_program_options.so.1.46.1 => not found
libboost_thread.so.1.46.1 => not found
libdb_cxx-5.1.so => not found
libminiupnpc.so.8 => not found
Question 1 : Why would these old versions be required? Question 2 : So... how do I link these files so anoncoind can find'em? Question 3 : Does anybody have the same issues? I experienced it with Ubuntu&Suse I know there's something with "LD_LIBRARY_PATH" but well, if anybody has a quick response it might help me. Update: So it's not finding the old version, because I don't have the old files it seems... Try installing |
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Hi Matt, Cryptonight can be GPU mined - do a google search for "Claymore GPU miner" - I have been mining XMR for a few months with this miner and it works wonderfully (it is about 10-20x faster to GPU mine xmr vs cpu mining it (Per GPU) - this is probably why you see some miners with a really high hashrate. Claymore isn't 10x-20x faster than CPU per watt. In fact per watt it works out about the same efficiency as CPU mining. An Atom C2750 can get 63H/s on four out of eight threads of a 20W TDP CPU. While they're even more efficient CPU's than that. Also there's no Linux or opensource ATI cryptonight miners still as of yet. While traditionally most cryptocoin GPU miners would have used Linux and ATI cards. |
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Zerocoin update!
Hello all, I am Gnosis, the new member of the Anoncoin team; I will be implementing Zerocoin in Anoncoin. Since an interested party has chosen to support this development financially, I will be able spend a lot more of my time on this. Expect a release for testing Zerocoin sometime in March!
This will be March 2015? Several coins a week now are mentioning zerocoin in their pages. Is there anything better about your zerocoin? And why are Anoncoin devs selling cryptonote? Cryptonote will appeal to approximately 0% of people. It is a deeply flawed and poorly conceived algorithm. Nobody needs or wants the type of secrecy cryptonote pushes and a currency without users, what use is it? All of the cryptonote markets are being artificially inflated. What is wrong with anc? The ring-signatures technique of Cryptonote coins currently offers the best transaction anonymity available. While the Zerocoin protocol should potentially offer even stronger anonymity they do say "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush". Also these multiple other Zerocoin attempts are they following Anoncoin's lead with the zero proof of knowledge technique. Or have they not got to that stage yet and just plan on ripping Anoncoin developments straight off like a script. |
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Every type of algo has it flaw. What is nice with the myriad is the possibility to include five different algos so the inherent flaws somehow equilibrate. I think we shall go to one ASIC oriented algo (scrypt), two or three GPU aimed algo such as Lyra2 and Myr Groestl for instance and finally one or two CPU aimed algo such as cryptonight or prime-constellation ( http://riecoin.org/faq.html#pow). Five algo is good with 1 pro-ASIC, 2 pro-GPU, 2 pro-CPU. Also Cuckoo cycle looks interesting for a CPU algo too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707879.0 If cuckoo was ready seven algo could even be possible in the myriad: one ASIC (scrypt), three GPU (Lyra2, Myr Groestl, Skein...), three CPU (cryptonight, prime-constellation, cuckoo)... network will be very resistant also meeh like the number 7  I would not put a multi-algo algorithm such as X11 or quark. For once because it is more heavy verification time-wise, second it does not bring anything new over single-POW algorithm (in contrast to a myriad like implementation ofc), third one of the algo can be flawed and the POW will be too, fourth as the miner in public domain are not optimized there are big player that can use custom miner to have more benefit, fifth there are FPGA raping X11 right now, sixth it was made by Eduffield and remind of darkshit. BTW look what an optimised miner could do to unsuspecting miner using the non-optimized one http://da-data.blogspot.de/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.html. I never understood why people prefer to use un-optimized miner thinking it economize their energy bill, this is retarded. 1% POS maybe, I am not sure, but no more. Indeed i am afraid it will incentive people to keep coin in ANC instead of in ZC, reducing anonimity set. This one has to be thought about if it is really needed or if the myriad is enough for network security. I would prefer a pure POW if possible. CPU-only as to now: http://cpucoinlist.com/cryptocurrency-algorithms/With the myriad the network will not be down for days anymore even if one of the algo is undergoing an attack If the coin was to go for a myriad of seven chains then I would prefer two ASIC chains. With both SHA256 and Scrypt then three GPU chains NeoScrypt, Lyra2 and Myr Groestle or Skein (which ever had a larger networked coin to AuXPoW with). Then two CPU chains of Cryptonight (Monero) and Primecoin. An attacker would then need to control four of the AuXPoW chains to cause major problems. Edit: Although seven AuxPoW chains may spread new coin distribution too thin on the ground? In hindsight a myriad of the three AuXPoW chains of Lyra2 (Vertcoin), NeoScrypt (Feathercoin) and either Myr Groestle or Skein (which ever had a larger networked coin to AuXPoW with) is my favorite option. Although moving over to AuxPoW with Litecoin is probably the quickest and easiest solution for now. Then possibly just Lyra2 (Vertcoin) and NeoScrypt (Feathercoin) AuXPoW can be added to make a myriad. As not taking into account X11 then those two networks are probably the largest GPU biased networks. So more network strength would be gained with the AuxPoW. |
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If you look at Monero pools you'll see lots of miners with hashrates equivalent to 20,000 CPU cores and more and it wouldn't be profitable for people to buy or rent that many CPU cores.
Can you please show two or three example, where this could/was be seen? And please define "lots" so we understand, what you mean. Check the stats of large Monero pools like this releativelly small Monero pool for example - https://minergate.com - One user with almost 70kH/s and ten users all above 6kH/s. While large botnets don't even need to use pools as they can solo mine on each node in the botnet while the sum of their work would be enough to solo mine easily. As ten-thousand nodes hashing at 10H/s (say on a CPU's that could max 100H/s on average if dedicated) will find the same amount of blocks as one node hashing at 100kH/s. |
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