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201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 02, 2023, 11:30:16 PM
That's what's worrying me about it; you gamble away the debt that quickly disappears when you get unlucky with gambling. Then, when you lose, you will pay it for a long time and with high interest.

It's like what used to happen to me: you stab yourself or you hurt yourself. It's okay to gamble, but don't gamble with debt; it's not normal human behavior, to be honest. I really hope there will be no problem when the payment period comes.

It shouldn't be forgotten that if the borrowed money is lost in gambling the financial loss will not only be that amount but the interest expense will also be included. Additionally, depending on the amount borrowed it may be necessary to repay this amount within a few months which we consume in a few minutes. Moreover, if this debt is paid in installments, the amount that must be paid every month may be a challenging amount compared to the monthly income. Losing borrowed money in gambling will cause a negative impact on mental health in addition to financial damage because losing the money thinking about how to repay it and the unhappiness caused by the loss will negatively affect the person mentally.

Especially when the full amount of the debt has to be paid or when the installment date to be paid every month comes the person will definitely feel in a worse and more difficult situation because before this debt is paid there will only be unhappiness caused by the loss. As the debt is paid off the unhappiness of losing money in gambling will also increase.
202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: December 01, 2023, 07:13:16 PM
Indeed. There are many factors affecting the outcome of a play. For instance, in sportsbetting, it's mostly reliant to skills and knowledge. It's essential that you are updated with the current happenings about the player and the team itself in general. Having a background knowledge about the team record will be beneficial as well to know which has the higher odds of winning based on their track records. Although yes, luck still does play a part in sportsbetting because at the last minute, tables can turn. So it's important to at least consider shocking turns happening the last part or when you least expect it. But of course, still base most of your assessment on your knowledge and information at hand. 

I guess it will just know depends on the perspective whether it's a lucky or bad day. After all, it varies. If you want to make profit, losing is really terrible. But you can always do better next time around. Just remember to not be too greedy.

We definitely agree that there are many different factors that come into play depending on the type of game preferred. No matter which game type is chosen, the only thing they all have in common is "luck" in the truest sense of the word. For example, as you mentioned analyzing various information is a very important factor for sports betting but the luck factor always has an effect in sports betting. A possible last minute changes, a surprise situation and many other factors are triggered by the luck factor. In other words, a bet that is thought to be perfect may be affected by this luck factor even if it is low and may result in a result opposite to expectations.

In summary, regardless of the preferred gambling method luck is a common factor for all but each method also has different factors within itself.
203  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Should trading be for the rich? on: December 01, 2023, 01:52:53 PM
There are people who have learnt how to trade, practiced on demo accounts for long but have not had the money to try trading on the market, and so they have abandoned trading to try search for money first. While there are others who have too little income, that they cannot profit from the market trading, they are always worried about loosing and because of that they make mistakes with their technical analysis and end up loosing the little money they have. Should trading be exclusive to financially comfortable and rich because of how risky it is?

As someone who started trading with a very low capital and then increased my capital steadily, I don't think and accept that an experienced trader cannot trade due to lack of money. Someone with really good experience can make money by trading regardless of the budget amount and increase their existing capital in this way.

For example, although it is quite difficult to earn regular income by trading let's assume that an individual is experienced and knowledgeable enough to earn 100% profit every month. This person may not be able to use 1,000 units of money to trade due to financial difficulties but if he/she uses 100 units of money depending on his/her financial situation, he/she will have 3,200 units of capital only if he/she earns 100% income regularly every month at the end of the sixth month. Yes, although this is something that seems theoretically possible unfortunately it may not be possible when implemented but when it is considered with this logic rather than directly it is possible to understand that a truly experienced and knowledgeable person can increase their capital in this way.

Of course, it may be a difficult process to create capital for oneself depending on one's financial situation or the economic conditions of the country in which one is located but as I mentioned after creating a small capital a truly experienced and successful trader can grow his/her capital in this way by earning small profit margins in the initial stages. I wrote this comment as someone who seriously increased his existing capital in this way and I think that anyone who is experienced and successful can achieve this.
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205  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Most Traders are Not Profitable on: November 30, 2023, 11:11:59 AM
Unfortunately, trading isn't something that everyone can achieve and it takes a long time to make money by trading. This is because financial markets are complex and it is almost impossible to make money in them without a fair amount of experience. Yes, unfortunately many people who define themselves as professionals cannot earn a profit by trading because trading requires not only experience but also the need for a person to plan risk management correctly and control his/her emotions.

On the other hand, the fact that many new individuals are included in the cryptocurrency markets and that these people are generally inexperienced in the financial markets or cryptocurrency markets causes the percentage of people who can make a profit by trading to decrease.
206  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin transaction time reduce in future? on: November 30, 2023, 01:30:24 AM
Currently it takes 1-3 hours for a transaction to complete if we do it with less fee? Is it possible in future that this transaction time will reduce or may be even become instant? Like when all Bitcoins are  mined and there are mainly holders instead of traders and volume of transactions decline.

Unfortunately, I think this will not be possible unless there is a protocol change but with alternatives such as Lightning Network, Bitcoin can be sent in a shorter time and with lower fees. There has been a significant increase in the Bitcoin transfers especially in the last few weeks and accordingly there is a serious waiting period in the transfer process. Unfortunately, although this is an annoying situation, the process must continue this way due to the structure of Bitcoin. I hope that with some developments in the near future we can see that both transfer fees and transfer time are shorter.

Although today it is possible to send money faster and more cost-effectively with Bitcoin compared to bank fees and this is one of Bitcoin's visions, being able to transfer under better conditions would be better for all of us and more attractive for Bitcoin.
207  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do not share your bitcoin holdings with everyone on: November 29, 2023, 08:42:36 PM
Definitely, we shouldn't share not only the amount of Bitcoin we own but also any of our financial assets with others. Unfortunately, especially today many people have become unreliable and many of these people are unfortunately around us. In a news article I read before, I saw that a child (I said child because if I remember it correct, he was 17) who owned a very high amount of Bitcoin shared it with many people around him and was later kidnapped and then killed because he didn't agree to share his wallet password and send all his Bitcoins. Of course, it is necessary not to believe all such content and I don't know if it is really true news but with such events, we learn that we shouldn't share our financial wealth with anyone. I think that someone who has gained financial freedom with Bitcoin or earned a very good amount of money behaves in this way for show-off purposes in order to attract attention with the increasing popularity of cryptocurrencies today but when we see such content we confirm how wrong this behavior actually is. As Ahzee, a singer I love very much, said;

''We got money not to show, we just got money to blow.''
208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who says you can't be a millionaire in sports betting? on: November 29, 2023, 04:22:36 PM
It was a great win, I congratulate the bettor. When we examine this bet, we can see that it is possible to earn high profits by making analysis and information in sports betting but it shouldn't be forgotten that the luck factor is also of great importance here.

Also, there is a small detail that I would like to remind you about because it is an image shared on social media. Definitely, since this person has earned such a profit, you shouldn't buy his/her sports betting predictions by thinking that he/she will win again if he/she regularly shares his/her sports betting predictions or by paying a certain fee to this person and using the entire budget for the competitions specified by this person. It is important to remember that many people generally never share or inform about their losses on their social media accounts. For this reason, I would like to remind you that paid predictions shouldn't be purchased from this person, trusting that he/she has earned such a rate and that if he/she shares his/her predictions for free, you shouldn't copy this person's bets with the entire budget.
209  Local / Türkçe (Turkish) / Re: Boğaya doğru durumlar nasıl? on: November 29, 2023, 02:25:22 PM
Yükseliş başladığında çok hızlı ve güçlü olacak sanki, çok geniş basamak aralıklarıyla hareket edilecek sanırım. Çünkü ben teknik takipçi değilim ama takip ettiğim analizcilerin çoğu 38.400 civarlarında çok güçlü bir direnç olduğunu ve Bitcoinin bunu şimdiye kadar kıramadığını, belki yakın zamanda da kıramayacağını söylüyorlar, ama elbet bir gün o duvarı çökertecek. O gazla kaptırıp gidecek gibime geliyor.

Güncel piyasa koşullarını incelediğimiz zaman her geçen gün piyasadaki volatilitede artış olduğunu ve yeni yatırımcıların da yeniden piyasaya girmeye başladığını düşünmek gerekirse olası bir boğa sezonu gerçekleşmesi durumunda çok sert hareketleri göreceğimizi ben de düşünüyorum. Özellikle daha önceki yorumlarımda da belirttiğim gibi teknik analize önem veren birisi olarak benim yaptığım analizlerde de 38.000 ve 38.500 aralığının önemli olduğunu rahatlıkla söylemem mümkündür. Bir diğer yandan, takip ettiğim bazı kişilerin de bu seviyeleri vurgulaması sebebi ile bu kişilerin takipçi kitlesi ve globalde birçok yatırımcının da bu fiyat seviyelerine odaklandığını ve olası bir kırılma sonrasında bir alım dalgası görebileceğimiz ihtimalini de değerlendirmek gerektiğini düşünüyorum. Eğer ki Bitcoin önümüzdeki süreç içerisinde bu fiyat seviyelerini sert bir şekilde kırarak istikrarlı bir şekilde hareket ederse bizleri hareketli ama güzel günlerin beklediğini düşünüyorum.
210  Local / Alternatif Kripto-Paralar / Re: [Yatırım Tezi] Şu Luna'yı Bir Tartışalım mı 🔥 on: November 29, 2023, 09:25:19 AM
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Eğer ki bu haber gerçek ise oldukça güzel bir fırsat hatta havadan para kazanmak olacağını düşünüyorum fakat güncel fiyatı kontrol ettiğim zaman ekran görüntüsünde yer alan fiyata göre bir gerileme olduğunu görmekteyim. Özellikle böyle bir haberin etkisi ile fiyatın yeniden 1 dolara sabitlenme potansiyeli bulunurken yatırımcının henüz tam anlamı ile Luna ve Luna'ya ait hiçbir projeye güvenmediğini söyleyebiliriz. Market cap ve diğer verileri incelediğim zaman tıpkı diğer arkadaşların da belirttiği gibi 1 dolar değere ulaşmasının biraz zor olsa da imkansız olmadığını görmekteyim. Her ne kadar ilk pump trenini kaçırmış olsak da olası gelişmelerin olması durumunda %90-%95 arasında güncel bir discount olduğunu söyleyebiliriz. Smiley
211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: November 28, 2023, 11:31:47 PM
As I have stated many times before in similar contents, it is very important for a person to be able to control his/her own emotions while gambling and not to gamble with borrowed money. I hope you can pay off this debt without serious financial damage. This situation you went through was actually a very expensive experience for you. You probably won't make the same mistake again and gamble with borrowed money later in your life. It is always necessary to remember that gambling is a risky and expensive hobby and is never a guaranteed method of earning. For this reason, the most important factor to consider when gambling is that a person learns and knows how to control his/her own emotions. In particular, one should not gamble greedily, succumbing to the desire to make money.
212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 28, 2023, 06:50:50 PM
Gambling isn't just for rich people but for everyone and everyone has the right to gamble at their own risk regardless of rich or poor. Losing in gambling one day or for a period of time doesn't mean that that person will not have luck in gambling for the rest of his/her life. I can easily say that everyone who has gambled regularly or for a long time has been lucky in gambling at least once or several times and made good winnings. Of course, it will be the person's own fault if this winnings is spent and consumed in gambling again but someone who regularly plays sports betting or traditional gambling games has or will make multiple profits at least once or more in his/her life.

The important thing when gambling is that the person realizes that he/she is unlucky for that day or that period and takes a break from gambling for a certain period of time. Gambling is something that everyone not just the rich. Has the right to play and it isn't right to state that after a person loses in gambling due to bad luck one day or for a period of time, he/she shouldn't gamble for the rest of his/her life. Also, it doesn't mean the person is stupid.
213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Many Bets to Know How Good Enough You Are? on: November 28, 2023, 02:11:12 PM
In order to be sure that you have good enough in gambling, my personal opinion is to have placed over 500 bets with a success rate of at least 60-70%. Although reaching a high number as a percentage is important in this case, I think this ratio should be high with as high a number of bets as possible because when we compare someone with a 90% winning rate with 10 bets and someone with a 70% winning rate with 1,000 bets, there is no doubt that we can say that the second person is more experienced and successful.


the ultimate data to see how good you are is if you've made money out of that 60% rate. doubling your money after just 5 bets, i guess that is already good enough.
i see gamblers putting the same amount of money on all 3 bets with odds 1.10 and if two won and one lost, no profits are made.

easy to win when you bet on fave team. in soccer or in football the favorite team doesn't really win all the time, making sports betting actually hard.

Yes, it is actually possible to state that it is sufficient if a person doubles or more than doubles his/her money but as I mentioned above the total number of bets placed is also very important in order to make a general comment and ensure continued good enough.

Additionally, let's say a person places three different bets with odds of 1.10 as in the scenario you mentioned. In this case, if 100 units of money are used for each bet there will be a bet amount of 300 units. If two bets are successful and one is unsuccessful this person will have 220 units of money and will have made a loss instead of making a profit. Moreover, when a success rate is calculated after reviewing the person's bets there will be a loss of 80 units that is approximately 25% of the capital with a correct betting rate of 66.66%.
214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 28, 2023, 09:13:23 AM
Can luck not play a bigger part in sports betting than we realize, even when analysis and information rule? Doesn't sports' unpredictability (weather, player psychology, unforeseen events)make even the best wager a gamble? We often overestimate our capacity to forecast outcomes, attributing success to talent and failure to luck. This cognitive bias can make us think we have more control than we do

However, isnt understanding when to stop the key to gambling, whether it's sports betting or slots? Human psychology is fascinatingly complex. The assumption that luck must shift or that one is due for a win keeps betting going. Isn't this psychological trap the true enemy, not gambling type? Cant self-awareness and control be the ultimate weapon in this conflict, more useful than sports or slot algorithms?

Although it isn't easy to explain this as a percentage, I think that analysis and knowledge have a greater share in sports betting than luck but as you mentioned the unpredictability of sports and some related conditions can turn even the best wager into gambling. For example, in the last match between Galatasaray and Bayern Munich, the odds for the over 0.5 were 1.001 before the match started and it was certain that there would be at least one goal in this match. Although the result was correct, the first goal came in the eightieth minute proving that a result that seemed guaranteed was actually a gamble.

On the other hand, to make a comment especially according to many gamblers, it is impossible to deny that everyone generally considers winning as success but losing as bad luck. In addition to the complexity of human psychology, the fact that people act in a profit-oriented manner when gambling is unfortunately a situation that many people cannot control. Unfortunately, thinking that it is a lucky day when one wins repeatedly or continuing to gamble to regain the lost amount in case of consecutive losses is an emotion that many people cannot control.
215  Local / Türkçe (Turkish) / Re: Boğaya doğru durumlar nasıl? on: November 27, 2023, 10:58:22 PM
Ben Bitcoin Fiyatının Ocak Ayından Sonra 40 Bin Dolarlarda Sabitleyeceği Görüşündeyim Çünki Artık Bitcoin Bu Süre Zarfında Kalırsa Bandı Düşücektit Görüşündeyim Umarım Yükselir

Peki, bu düşünce herhangi bir teknik veya temel analiz ile mi belirtildi yoksa sadece şahsi bir görüş müdür? Evet, özellikle son birkaç gün içerisinde fiyatın gelen olarak 37.000 ile 38.000 arasında hareket ettiğini ve buradan yukarıya veya aşağıya yönlü olacak şekilde henüz kırılmadığını görebiliriz fakat ani bir hareket ile piyasanın tamamen değişmesinin de mümkün olduğunu unutmamak gerekmektedir. Özellikle, hızlıca bir teknik analiz gerçekleştirmek gerekirse piyasanın iyimser olduğunu ve çoğunluklu olarak iyi haberler geldiğini teyit edebiliriz. Evet, bu şekilde bir devamlılığın sağlanması ile ani bir sıçrama yaşabilir ve piyasa yönü yukarı olarak hareket edebilir fakat bu noktada dikkat edilmesi gereken teknik analiz eksikliğinin de giderilmesidir. Bugün, ani bir hareket ile Bitcoin fiyatının 40.000'e ulaşması durumunda hangi fiyat seviyelerinden short veya long açmak gerektiğini karar vermek için bu önemli bir detaydır.

Son olarak, umutlarımızdan ve duygularımızdan yola çıkarak kişisel görüşlerimizi belirtmek gerekirse şahsen ben de piyasanın yukarı yönlü hareket edeceğini ve yeni yıl sonrasında pozitif gelişmeler ile yeşil bir piyasa göreceğimizi düşünüyor ve umuyorum. Umarım ki bu hislerimizde yanılmaz ve yıllardır beklediğimiz yükseliş trendi olan yeşil bir piyasa görebiliriz.
216  Local / Türkçe (Turkish) / Re: Binance ve CZ'nin Geleceği. on: November 27, 2023, 07:00:08 PM
CZ, kripto para piyasalarında çok önemli güce sahip ve bazı kişiler tarafından sevilen bazı kişiler tarafından ise pek sevilmeyen birisidir. Her ne kadar kripto para piyasalarında oldukça güçlü bir kişi olsa da kesinlikle Satoshi'den daha güçlü olduğunu veya olabileceğini düşünmüyorum. Özellikle son bir hafta içerisinde gördüğümüz gelişmeler de bunu kanıtlar nitelikte çünkü kendisi birçok suçlamayı kabul ederek tükürdüğünü yalamaya başladı ve devam ediyor. Her ne kadar şu an için hukuki olarak zor bir süreç içerisinde olsa ve kurucusu olduğu dünyanın en büyük kripto para borsası Binance'dan istifa etmiş olsa da önümüzdeki süreç içerisinde gelişmelere bağlı olarak piyasada söz ve güç sahibi olmaya devam edeceğini düşünüyorum. Tabii, bu güç eskisi gibi olmayacak ve olası gelişmelere bağlı olarak piyasada ciddi bir gücünün kalıp kalmadığını da bizlere zaman gösterecektir.

Binance hakkında da kısa bir yorum yapmak gerekirse, yeni CEO'nun süreci doğru kararlar ile yönetmesi, dava sürecinde Binance'ın kendisini aklaması ve kullanıcıların güvenini yeniden kazanarak eski gücüne ulaşması durumunda bu piyasanın en güçlü ve büyük borsası olarak yoluna devam edeceğini düşünüyorum. Unutmamak gereklidir ki olası bir olumsuz senaryo gerçekleşmesi durumunda Binance çok hızlı bir şekilde güç kaybetmeyecektir çünkü günümüz koşullarında kripto para piyasalarına yön vermek konusunda çok ciddi bir güce sahiptir. Yani, Binance eğer kısa süre içerisinde çok fazla güç kaybeder ve iflas eşiğine sürüklenir ise bizleri çok kötü günler bekliyor.
217  Local / Alternatif Kripto-Paralar / Re: [Yatırım Tezi] Şu Luna'yı Bir Tartışalım mı 🔥 on: November 27, 2023, 01:30:18 PM
Her ne kadar kripto para piyasaları her türlü gelişmeye müsait bir piyasa olsa da özellikle Luna'nın adını duyduğum zaman kendimi bir adım geri çekiyorum. Evet, proje çok güzel bir amaç doğrultusunda varlığına devam ediyordu ve oldukça da başarılı gidiyordu fakat hiç beklenmedik gelişmeler maalesef çöp olması için yeterli etkenler olabildi. Özellikle, bu çöküşün olabileceğinin bilinmesi ve bunun üzerinde çok ciddi miktarda projenin kazanç elde etmiş olması oldukça şaibeli bir durum ve birçok yatırımcının güvenini de bu sebebe istinaden kaybetmiş durumda. Her ne kadar günümüzde de projenin gelişimi için bir çaba sarf ediliyor olsa da maalesef birçok yatırımcının korkması sebebi ile Luna projesi artık kendisine yatırımcı bulma konusunda daha da zorlanmakta. Özellikle son birkaç hafta içerisinde değer kazanmış olsa da yatırımcı güveni yeniden tam anlamı ile kazanılmadığı sürece ciddi bir değerlenme yaşayacağını düşünmüyorum fakat belirttiğim gibi kripto para piyasalarının sürprizler ile dolu olmasından kaynaklı olarak herhangi bir yatırım yapılmadan takip edilebilir ve olası yatırım fırsatları bir ihtimal de olsa değerlendirilebilir.

Son olarak, birçok proje veya kripto para borsalarına gerekli gereksiz yere dava açan ve ceza kesen SEC'in neden Luna için bu şekilde bir hareket gerçekleştirmediği de aklımı kuracalayan sorulardan birisi açıkçası.
218  Economy / Economics / Re: #HODLing is not a smooth journey on: November 27, 2023, 09:32:20 AM
Certainly, making long-term cryptocurrency investments and protecting these investments before their planned maturity is a very difficult process because the cryptocurrency markets are a volatile market and due to the price fluctuations that occur during this process the feeling of constantly taking advantage of these opportunities can unfortunately dominate. Of course, trading in the short term isn't an easy process but it is a little easier to control one's emotions in long-term investments.

Protecting and hodling long-term investments is a process that seems very simple but is quite difficult than this. Especially after completing this process successfully, the society interprets the successful person as if he/she became rich overnight which can further annoy the person who is worn out during this difficult process. It is important to remember that a cryptocurrency can gain significant value in one night and make the person who has held it for a long time rich but this doesn't mean that that person became rich in one night. It is a very difficult waiting period and along with years of knowledge, experience and various difficult memories develop along with it.
219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can old generation cause the habit of gambling in young generation ? on: November 26, 2023, 10:36:07 PM
I think it is possible to answer this question with both yes and no because;

Yes, if the older generation constantly chats about the reason for their ongoing gambling habit and gambles in front of the new generation of children, they will indirectly transmit the gambling habit to the new generation. In particular it can be easily said that the older generation passed on their gambling habits to the new generation as younger family members grew up taking their older family members as a reference during childhood.

No, because today gambling continues to increase its popularity and appears in every aspect of our lives. In particular, we see that the new generation who can access easily to the internet, can now access gambling services more easily due to digitalized casinos and advertisements. In fact, while there is a minimum age limit for gambling in physical casinos, unfortunately, we can see that the new generation of children can access gambling more easily due to the fact that some of the online casinos don't comply with the laws and rules for gambling.

So, if we are to comment on the subject from a general perspective I think both answers are possible and can be supported with justified reasons. This is why I gave both answers and was able to give logical and valid explanations and reasons for both.
220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 26, 2023, 05:25:25 PM
Gambling is dependent on luck, but we can be on the profiting side if we know when to stop and take a break. Most of us don't follow it, just the wins keep us high and we go for increased bet value. The same ends our wager at the shortest. To be on the safer side better choice is to spend on sports betting than casino games.

Yes, gambling is literally based on luck but depending on its type it is possible to reduce the effect of the luck factor. For example, although slots and similar gambling games are completely based on luck, sports betting is a type that is partially based on luck. Although the luck factor has a significant impact regardless of the preferred type of gambling, reducing the luck factor depends entirely on the individual's preference.

On the other hand, unfortunately, as you mentioned the reason why many gamblers lose money in gambling is because they don't know when to stop. Unfortunately, both those who lose a lot of money and those who earn a lot of money in a very short period of time become more greedy and lose after exceeding the limit they should stop at. Certainly, it is very important for an individual to act knowing when to stop or take a break from gambling.

Finally, if we have to compare sports betting and gambling games I think it is necessary to have an idea about the gambler who is a player in order to claim that it is possible to make more money in sports betting. There will not be much difference between someone who bets on sports without having any knowledge about the preferred sport, sports teams and someone who plays slots or similar gambling games. The biggest difference and advantage of sports betting compared to traditional gambling games is that it provides the opportunity to bet based on analysis, knowledge and experience.
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