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201  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mycelium's "crowdsale": basically a donation, not an investment by any means on: December 16, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
guys is there a link to the ICO of the MASS NETWORK please? I cant find it :-/
202  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 16, 2016, 08:56:15 AM
OK I sent him a PM to ask.
203  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 16, 2016, 07:32:05 AM
I think you are right with the understanding of the coin. I have found away to peel the stickers live.

So I will make a count down for the peeling.
I can do it on twitter live feed after checking with the suggestion. So I suggest sat or sunday
That's a good start. So technically OP's buyer is the one that is missing the funds at the moment? I'm not entirely sure how this could be remedied as sending the funded amount to them is much different from getting a funded coin (if they have peeled it already?). I wonder what bitenvy thinks/wants after the video.

Anyway also a scammer doesn't pay people back.. before this scam accusation I had already paid back digicoinuser.
Not entirely true. There have been cases of people paying only after being exposed.


Yes I understand. If I am a scammer I must be the dumbest scammer in the history of Bitcoin because exposed or not exposed I am the only one who lost money- either way. If I had not refunded MinerJones and sent him some new coins. I could understand a scam accusation really I could. But I did the honest thing and I lost money and my time which right now is precious.  

I would have realised I made this mistake eventually but it could have been months away.

Anyway let me sign up to twitter and see if my phone can pick up the private key detail.

When I peel the sticker I will show half of the key, redeem the bitcoin then paste the full private key to see if  it matches with the ones I posted months ago. If that ok great if not then please let me know how I can change it.

204  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 16, 2016, 05:46:22 AM
Anyway also a scammer doesn't pay people back.. before this scam accusation I had already paid back digicoinuser.
I am the only person who lost money here.
205  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 16, 2016, 05:43:43 AM
To summarize what I understood here:
Gravitate is supposed to sell coin X with Y BTC funded to bitenvy. Gravitate sells it as a funded coin. Bitenvy later sold the same coin to someone else, who discovered that it was funded with 0 BTC [1]. So either Gravitate sold coin X, but did not fund it or Gravitate sold the wrong coin (which was not funded either). Either way, if it was sold as funded, but was not, then this is the definition of a scam.

Whether or not the intent was malicious, is not something that I want to get into (we've had enough fanboys drop in their useless comment). The question is how to completely resolve the situation?

[1] - Correct me if I misunderstood something.

I think you are right with the understanding of the coin. I have found away to peel the stickers live.

So I will make a count down for the peeling.
I can do it on twitter live feed after checking with the suggestion. So I suggest sat or sunday
206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 15, 2016, 04:21:46 PM
I WOULD NOT put ICO fiunds in the chronobank ICO. Unless it is going to short them straight after token launch. Has no one learned the lessons of the ICO's this year lol?

They dump on token release then  theats the time to buy below ico price Smiley
207  Economy / Collectibles / Re: A little favor on: December 15, 2016, 04:16:50 PM
I am assuming that you mean the Silver RR and Bronze RR coins??
This may be hard to get someone to do as there were very very few of these coins sent out / received.

Maybe better to contact the known owners??

This is the last known chart that I made with possible owners.

Thanks.




And some of the addresses:

SRR2
1 13ga6yFeEXP1n2HVpF6QsqQPu4rQD9N6D7
2 1GbX3Ru9yJeWi9cy8pTgbTuwzecNdruVhC
3 1BndXxv2FwTYv9dGCqPmy3xPPMvsGcAoMn
4 1NW3oFtXfaDjmse1T8YojCJJDG9JaszkEK
5 175oJK95thsNC9M7MESZe61EVR3hdpCvm4
6 1PrVHHqo1586Qq5zkF8JAtnqiY4FGUrkfL

BRR1
1 1L23rbiQLy45u6eAGbqYKLmzGM5nHrsZnt
2 1Evp7XHXdKLCghDn4KTKwkyGnndwDYJJwc
3 1CYMTmg9G4sGbhZd7Yy5q9XnZG2YvbpzEF
4 1cvmiULBAhw7wgmfPkGsXsf6CTDZ8aH7a
5 1LDJCo2PmU9zzsChtQVP2hy2rKUU6gy3yK
6 1AqpQpgcWY51Lenwjykm47ywcg6S8giaUM

SRR3
1 1JvDE7CcWBu8onfk3ueN69X5dVvMJfdAEf
2 1u3WumNCsQaJDVGKqmHgBDNKULGSjtwNQ
3 1J6YN8ztiCNPvBmw64Pp9h5MihzYFimx7o
4 1MMrLrgttFTBGyUw6MnKLNNPmpF6oSgz2E
5 1Dm7JKigEYmtMFWQufwqZXMY2ZZxPXXhtL
6 1QJANSJ8whtrwLuHVyi3dpUdTwczrvamUm

BRR3
1 1NWwiqd3wbvrmC9nKxfrVy3k82DjHb3pPr
2 1MwGfQHJ2ntidJwfCk4t2Ws3mubg3VtSxu
3 1KxZSDLPFfr8znzrDTqf5b4Z1LtJYrVy3p
4 115E53BvWg8J9vjKktpwYyQt7Ro9pk9ewj
5 12QU3LFBGTpg7YZC5rHp3F1Vk3madgpAWq
6 1CaUkQTaUjDF58qo2fP3PTTV2yApQiBBah


Do you remember you bought SRR1 and BRR1? Anyway I lost them and I refunded you... Well I sent them to bitenvy by accident who bought SRR3 and BRR3 that are both funded. So he thought I was a scammer by selling un funded coins. Anyway this will be to peel the SRR3 and BRR3 and sweep the private key to confirm funding.

Also I have the majority of RR2 and RR3 left apart from Chronisky got a set from each. I have quite a few coins there still.
208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 15, 2016, 02:40:12 PM
What do you think is the common sentiment? Is everyone and their mother going to dump on Dec. 28 because they need liquidity to invest into ICNX/ICNP or do you think it will pump since it's the release of the platform and Iconomi pretty much starts working from that point on? Would like to hear some opinions.

Does this answer your question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5LW07FTJbI

the brunette's kind of hot.....

i'd be happy to give her some of my ICN.


In exchange for what?
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 15, 2016, 02:39:18 PM
What do you think is the common sentiment? Is everyone and their mother going to dump on Dec. 28 because they need liquidity to invest into ICNX/ICNP or do you think it will pump since it's the release of the platform and Iconomi pretty much starts working from that point on? Would like to hear some opinions.

I am gonna buy some or I might sell some ICN to buy some. Its a good question really. Its gonna pump quite high regardless though so I wouldnt worry.

Why? There is no rush for investing in ICNX and your ICN will grow in worth when more money comes into ICNX so why would you sell your ICN tokens? I don't get it. That doesn't make sense for me.

Well I firmly believe in Iconomi as I am in the middle of setting up a similar exchange so I want to dicversify. Get direct profrofits from ICNX and indirect from the dividends of ICN. This is the next game changer in crypto I have no doubt.
210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 15, 2016, 12:49:59 PM
What do you think is the common sentiment? Is everyone and their mother going to dump on Dec. 28 because they need liquidity to invest into ICNX/ICNP or do you think it will pump since it's the release of the platform and Iconomi pretty much starts working from that point on? Would like to hear some opinions.

I am gonna buy some or I might sell some ICN to buy some. Its a good question really. Its gonna pump quite high regardless though so I wouldnt worry.
211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 15, 2016, 12:48:29 PM
What do you think is the common sentiment? Is everyone and their mother going to dump on Dec. 28 because they need liquidity to invest into ICNX/ICNP or do you think it will pump since it's the release of the platform and Iconomi pretty much starts working from that point on? Would like to hear some opinions.

Does this answer your question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5LW07FTJbI

This is a good explanation about Iconomi I like it a lot. thanks for the share I will put in on all my social media,. Get ready for the PUUUUMP
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 15, 2016, 12:44:46 PM
Just a little question, if we hold iconomi on ico web we can still get the deviden?
or we need to move our icn to ethereum wallet?

ico website and ethereum wallet both get dividends.

now fuck off

Lol I think gets reply of the week in my book.
213  Economy / Collectibles / A little favor on: December 15, 2016, 08:51:31 AM
Would someone be willing please to peel 2 coins / sweep the private key and then keep the coins and send me the bitcoin? It is a Silver and Bronze coin and you must be able to see the private key in the video.

bitenvy is making a scam accusation against me here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711231.0

I am really on the verge of just walkign away from this but its not fair to the people who hold my coins I suppose.

So if you are a holder of my coins and would like to help maintain the credability of the coins then doing this favor would be great!

Regards
214  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 15, 2016, 08:14:20 AM
To send someone the coins and let them peel it and keep the value will cost me around 200 pounds. I have already lost money because of this mistake so I dont think that is very reasonable. This is a accusation. There is no funds to be recovered here (no body has lost money apart from me) but you are asking me to pay money to clear my name against  some allegations where  I have already provided evidence against it.  That is unreasonable. Since I have in the past given you free coins and also offered to fix all the mistakes I have made. It simply isnt fair. I already gave you a FREE 2 TROY OZ SILVER COIN[/font] for all the problems you had.

I do it myself I borrow a camera and film it in front of a watch with the date. Then you can see no time passes with the peeling.

I am addressing the moderators because they are the ones who will either remove the feedback or not. No funds are missing it is simply a scam accusation. I have nothing to give you. You are not missing any money of funds.


So I can borrow a camera and do it myself. But how do I make it authentic? Next to a watch is good enough?

I have been here for 3 years with a clean slate. There is no real evidence I have scammed anyone here.

What would be the point in me scamming myself? I am the only one who lost money here. After 3 years of a clean slate I put my whole reputation on the line to scam myself out of money? It makes no sense to me at all.

I am not giving away money right now so I will preffer to peel the stickers myself. Or at least ask someone to do it free for me.

If that is not ok with the moderators then I will disappear like the dirty little snake of a scammer I am and you win.  You will have single handedly ruined my reputation  and devalued all the coins I ever made out of nothing but spite. If thats what you want then you have a good chance of getting it because I dont have the energy for this anymore.


215  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 14, 2016, 08:36:00 AM
Everyone who knows me personally knows what I am facing and would certainly frown against this tarnishing of my name.
Don't appeal to emotion/pity (logical fallacy). I still don't see a potential resolution out of this dispute.

Why dont you pay the guy whats he's out and just apologize.
I'm not entirely sure what OP wants. They've made some demands, but it doesn't seem like gravitate will comply (e.g. video of peeling).

I will comply I just dont have the facilities. I can send them to someone who does if that is ok with everybody?
Or I could borrow a camera but how do I do it live? I mean the only way I can think of doing this is via facebook which is via a phone which means you cant see the private key anyway.

I could somehow film it next to a clock or a watch maybe? I dont know. Please tell me what is acceptable here.

Why dont you pay the guy whats he's out and just apologize.

I did pay everyone who is out apart from Chronisky but that is only because we haven't arranged it as yet.
216  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 14, 2016, 07:36:35 AM
Hi again Vod,

For RR2 series it was not fully determined before the sales went on hold for these coins. I was going to sell them on ebay so gambling coins may not have fit on there and been removed or got me banned. So that was not conclusive at the time but I have not sold any as the sales are on hold.

For the 0.05 coin I sold to bitenvy I did replace it yes. I decided to make 1 of the coins text in red so one person had something different and potentially more collectable. when I replaced the coin with a new priivate key I for got to make the text red again. I offered to replace it again:



I sold 4 coins and made something like 40 pounds. Because I made this mistake I refunded 2 of them and only made 20 pounds profit and I lost the cost of the material of the coin etc (all costs associated with making these coins that were lost). I am the only  person who lost money because of this mistake. If I had wanted to mislead someone I could have sent MJ 2 more coins that have different private keys on. After all I fully knew he did not win. But I didn't I took the loss upon myself and I did not make any new coins to replace them with. I should be glad I didnt because surely that supports my case right now?

I didn't realise the mistake was made because I have been ill and I have left coins alone for a bit. If I had realised I could have organised it so I can then make profit as opposed to losing money - or at least got the money back I paid for the coins.

I don't know what questions I have ignored I am simply stating evidence available that helps towards you making a decision about if I scammed anyone here.

Because I have sent him coins he is not trying to insinuate all the coins I sold have funding issues. That is not fair. Not to me or anyone else who bought coins from me.

I have put coin making on hold due to my health and the pain killers I am taking. Tramadol really messes your head up and I have been on them in heavy doses since last Christmas.  When I realized it was effecting my coin making I stopped. I dint ask to be ill or intentionally  mislead anyone.  I am still here and I am still sorting out my mistakes.

Everyone who knows me personally knows what I am facing and would certainly frown against this tarnishing of my name.

Regards,

217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 07:25:40 PM
I am a bit concerned of the ICN dump that will happen once ICNX launches. Do you guys think that ICNX will gain a bigger marketcap than ICN?  I believe that until OFM platform launches in 2017, the ICNX will be more profitable, and thus will have a bigger marketcap.

For people in Crypto world, ICN is far more appealing than ICNX.

ICNX is a low risk & relatively low profit index fund geared for people from outside Crypto world, who are looking to diversify their investment portfolio with some exposure to Cryptocurrencies.

The majority of Crypto traders rather invest in Cryptos directly, especially Dividends-Paying, 0% Inflation cryptos like no other than ICN.

As ICNX, ICNP & other ICONOMI funds receive more funding, the value of ICN will only sky rocket because ICN holders receive Dividends from every single ICONOMI fund.



I think I agree but depending if they do it right then ICNX will do just fine. Its a great idea and we will be launching some similar on our site soon too. For me I wont exchange ICN for ICNX but I most certainly buy some ICNX. I think ICN could eailly move to 10 usd a piece when we get some movement and iconomi hit their targets.



Easily? That's like saying Ethereum could go easily to $500. Ethereum has huuuuge potential, i mean it's THE Blockchain of the future imo,
but a $10 ICN would be ~50x the price of today
Not that I don't believe both of these cases could become true... but I would not call this easy

Ethereeum is the smart contract that has failed. Lets face it its going no where apart from down. There are 2 more coins prepped up to take over these failures soon. the reason ETH got up so high was hype. i have seen it time and time again over the years with the favorite hyped up coins. ICN and ICNX will be the next big thing there is no doubt of that if they hit their targets and start paying dividends. It wont be hard with all these amazing new features. If you are a holder then dont be a weak hand. This is the next big thing.
218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CSC] ♠ CasinoCoin v3.0 ♥ 3 Yrs Old ♦ NEW Mandatory Update ♣ on: December 13, 2016, 07:07:11 PM
I hope so too but too many times has this happened and delayed and hyped up and delayed. Its like I mentioned before dont spend a great deal at all on this untill something at least gets confirmed becasue there will still be time to jump on the train if it does happen
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 07:04:05 PM
I am a bit concerned of the ICN dump that will happen once ICNX launches. Do you guys think that ICNX will gain a bigger marketcap than ICN?  I believe that until OFM platform launches in 2017, the ICNX will be more profitable, and thus will have a bigger marketcap.

For people in Crypto world, ICN is far more appealing than ICNX.

ICNX is a low risk & relatively low profit index fund geared for people from outside Crypto world, who are looking to diversify their investment portfolio with some exposure to Cryptocurrencies.

The majority of Crypto traders rather invest in Cryptos directly, especially Dividends-Paying, 0% Inflation cryptos like no other than ICN.

As ICNX, ICNP & other ICONOMI funds receive more funding, the value of ICN will only sky rocket because ICN holders receive Dividends from every single ICONOMI fund.



I think I agree but depending if they do it right then ICNX will do just fine. Its a great idea and we will be launching some similar on our site soon too. For me I wont exchange ICN for ICNX but I most certainly buy some ICNX. I think ICN could eailly move to 10 usd a piece when we get some movement and iconomi hit their targets.

220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 10:04:53 AM
Sorry for the noob question again but what is ICNX

This is the new investment tool right? So if we buy this we get payments from this from the investing. Then we get additional dividends from the ICN?



https://ico.iconomi.net/about-icnx-index


THANKS!!! so holding ICNX is basically the same as buying a small amount of the mentioned currencies right?


This is interesting indeed if I am right?


Yeap, its actually the same meaning but in this case currencies are held by them, you are paying them to manage the funds for you, you don't get access towards the currencies but your own investment Smiley


Awesome and do they buy and sell the currencies for bitcoin or do they basically just hold them in the understanding they will increase in the future?
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