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201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VSX] Darksend - POS 3.0 - Obfuscation - Masternodes - InstantTX [VSYNC] on: October 18, 2017, 07:18:54 AM
any Progress updates / news dev?
As the developers said earlier, you have to wait till the Q1 2018 for a possible breakthrough. Hope it helps and good luck.

yeah but as a supporter of this coin with a couple of hundred bucks in it it would be nice to receive any Progress updates or maybe hire some marketing guys to make blog Posts. . tweets or anything theres just nothing :/
202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem on: October 18, 2017, 07:15:00 AM
Beautiful undervalued coin with a great developer and a nice market cap with a sane supply.
Agree with you. I am waiting till all weak hand will go out from BNT and then we will go to the moon. Of course, we need good news and fine market situation (now market situation is scary because of BTC fork, again).

Don't you think that all the weak hands must have gotten out a long time ago. The weak hands and the bounty hunters dumped their tokens and the price just crashed. I don't think that bancor will rise again anytime soon.

that's one of those coins where a lot of ppl hope for fast x10 then a couple of months nothing happens cause the real usage of the platform is just in early stage .. Price declines and a lot of ppl leave and the next day you wake up, huge news released and the coin is @ 30$ same will happen with WAVES and did happen with ETH already (remember when it jumped to 30 then 50 etc?) real Projects make real earning but you Need to be patient
203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 💠 FORTY SEVEN BANK 💠 – Connecting Financial Worlds on: October 18, 2017, 07:07:54 AM
your facebook campaign rule:
"Publication of 2 personal posts per week and Share 5 posts per week from your facebook page"
but in your spreadsheet :
"Post (min 3 in other group) and Like and Share"
which is the right one Huh

For fast Response use their bounty-thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2225653

OR even faster use Telegram Smiley you should be in there since your're participant of the bounty campaign
204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VSX] Darksend - POS 3.0 - Obfuscation - Masternodes - InstantTX [VSYNC] on: October 18, 2017, 07:06:41 AM
any Progress updates / news dev?
205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES | Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform | unofficial supporters topic on: October 18, 2017, 07:04:33 AM
Source: https://tomluongo.me/2017/10/16/russias-crypto-ruble-changed-capital

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Russia’s Crypto-Ruble Just Changed the Game
OCTOBER 16, 2017 / TOM LUONGO

The crypto-ruble is confusing a lot of people. It shouldn’t.  Putin just took the lead in Crypto-technology.

For weeks now we’ve been getting very mixed signals out of the Russian Government about cryptocurrencies.  On the one hand we see it embracing the new technology while at the same time going on the warpath against them.

Because of that there is a lot of confusion in people’s minds as to what the endgame for cryptos in Russia looks like.  I’ll try to clear this confusion up given what we know.

But, suffice it to say, this is very good news for both Bitcoin and the Russian economy.  Give me a few minutes and I’ll explain why.

Putin’s Law

Vladimir Putin is very much a law and order kinda guy. If you watch Putin operate in the public arena he always does so with an eye towards the law.  He believes strongly in the law.  And cryptocurrencies, despite their obvious benefits to a Russian economy that needs the type of disintermediation cryptos offer, operate in a legal gray area that makes Putin uncomfortable.

So, the goal with Russian official crypto-policy is to stamp out the illegal activities – the money laundering, terrorism-financing, human-trafficking, etc. – while simultaneously using the technology to modernize Russia’s internal capital handling capabilities.

This is what the crypto-ruble is all about.  It is a way for Russia and Russians to provide a gateway between the crypto-world and the so-called real one.  It ensures that this new form of ruble properly tracks capital flow through the Russian economy.

By taxing crypto-rubles at the capital gains rate for those that cannot provide a paper-trail of ownership, Russia and Putin are incentivizing the development of low-cost crypto-payment systems to exchange rubles for goods only in cryptocurrencies that also track ownership, like Ethereum and others that have transparent blockchain histories.

The Russian Capital Invitation

Putin is openly inviting investment capital into Russia that is legal and above board.  Russia wants legitimate businesses to operate in Russia in whatever currency they like as long as that business is transparent.

The crypto-ruble provides the means by which to convert, transaction-cost-free, back into the national ‘fiat’ currency to pay bills, taxes and the like.  This is in direct opposition to how the U.S., for example, treats cryptocurrencies.

The 2014 I.R.S. rule that classified Bitcoin as ‘property’ means that every Bitcoin transaction, no matter how minor, creates a potential capital gains event.  It means that buying a cup of coffee at Starbucks in Bitcoin is taxable for both the person buying the coffee (capital gains on the sale) and Starbucks when they go to sell those Bitcoins, buy dollars and pay salaries, order supplies, etc.

It’s why the capital that has moved into cryptocurrencies isn’t moving back out.  It’s why the ICO market has exploded.  Billions in profits actively looking for new investment opportunities without paying taxes.

It’s also the main reason why Amazon, for example, doesn’t take Bitcoin.  Who wants that hassle?

Can you imagine Amazon’s Schedule D if it accepted Bitcoin?

The crypto-ruble’s structure dispenses with that for those that can prove ownership via the blockchain.  Bitcoin allows for transaction transparency, so does Ethereum, Litecoin and many others.

Now, cryptos can exist side-by-side with rubles without worrying about the threat of double taxation, unless you earned your money in the murk, at which point Russia wants 13% capital gains.  This new system won’t bring that capital back into the Russian economy, but it wasn’t coming back anyway.

Russia Embraces its Own Cryptos

By calling Bitcoin as a Ponzi scheme and an avenue for money laundering Putin and the Bank of Russia are simply attacking technologies that are not home-grown.  They are, like every other person in the markets, ‘talking their book.’

Putin would prefer people use platforms that are Russian.  Remember, he’s also a nationalist trying to bring Russia prestige in this important market going forward.

Ethereum and WAVES are both platforms designed by and built for Russia. So, you’ll notice that Putin has never spoken out against Ethereum.  WAVES continues to fly under a lot of people’s radar, but it is just as disruptive as Ethereum.

They both provide a platform to act as Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) for the next generation of internet-based applications.  Ethereum is a kind of operating system for Internet 3.0 while WAVES is next generation forex exchange as well as providing an easy platform for issuing new public/private equity.

WAVES is what will back the Moscow Exchange’s move to trade cryptocurrencies and their derivatives.  It will act at the gateway for all of the currency exchanges.  So, if you have dollars, Bitcoins, rubles or Ethereum you can buy and sell stocks on the Moscow Exchange eventually.

All nice and legal.  All above-board.

Evil Putin is looking for pension-fund investors seeing Russian bonds trading above 7% and he just gave fund managers a way to come in through the crypto-back door.

Don’t think for a second that Putin doesn’t like Bitcoin as a means to attract investor capital.  This is what Russian Miner Coin is all about.  He just wants it to be regulated so it can ensure the public sphere is maximized.

The Fight for Capital in Flight

Capital will always flow to where it is treated best.

Given the tenuous situation in the global financial and p0litical systems, Russia’s stable government is an asset. What investors need is the confidence of being able to get their money out after putting it back in.

The scheme for the crypto-ruble is part of that confidence-building process.

I know now, as an American investor, I can, for example, invest in a Russian company’s stock or bond offering directly.  I can get paid my dividends or coupons in crypto-rubles, immediately exchange them for bitcoins or whatever currency I want to use as I see fit.

Oh, and if I never convert them back to dollars, I can put off paying taxes until I do.

That’s not really possible now, especially with sanctions.  If it is possible, it’s expensive and a major hassle.  Putin is a smart man with an excellent team around him.  Moves like this are made in response to aggressive moves made by the U.S. to starve his country of capital, i.e. John McCain’s sanctions.

He and his team understand that providing a platform by which capital can enter Russia that is barred through normal means now is key to surviving the next couple of years.  It’s not his responsibility to monitor what U.S. investors do, only that they comply with Russian law.

First-mover advantage is important here.  If Russia continues to develop blockchain technology and embrace it in a relatively tax-free way, it won’t matter that it is ‘regulating’ the beautiful decentralized market of cryptos.

What will matter is that Russia treats its crypto-investors better than everyone else.  In the fight for global capital flows, you don’t have to be perfect, you just have to be slightly better than everyone else.  Arbitrage will take care of the rest.

And tax-free ruble/crypto exchange is the killer app that the crypto-market has been looking for to take it to the next level.

Russia got there first.

is there any official infos about that?

crypto ruble will be an ERC20 or WAVES token? Would be huge vor WAVEs if russia decides to use WAVES as their main exchange / platform since we're now using NG-Transactions we're able to handle the incoming volume!
206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TaaS — Tokenized Closed-End Fund on: October 17, 2017, 07:25:33 PM
Through http://ca.taas.fund anyone can calculate the total fund size. The dividend will probably be smaller then last time.

invested capital into icos are missing Smiley
207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 1 ETH / 30 days / shilling time on: October 17, 2017, 05:28:57 PM
wait, are you saying you want to gamble the money you need for your bills in 30 days? no, just no

nope but my credit card allowed me to buy some ETH cannot pay bills with creditcard Cheesy
208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 1 ETH / 30 days / shilling time on: October 17, 2017, 04:44:12 PM
yeah so should be a good time to buy into an alt and wait until the fork

I just don't know which one Cheesy every coin I check had already a huge pump like LINK or ODN odr COSS etc I do not like to jump into ATH's
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / 1 ETH / 30 days / shilling time on: October 17, 2017, 04:28:11 PM
Hey guys

Got some moneyproblems and managed to get 1 ETH on Coinbase via Creditcard.

I got 30 days to pay some bills so do you got some good investing possibilities? Should I buy a coin or invest into an ongoing ICO?

Any advices appreciated Smiley

Thanks
RAGE
210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 💠 FORTY SEVEN BANK 💠 – Connecting Financial Worlds on: October 17, 2017, 09:20:09 AM
what are FSBT for?

I would suggest you to read the token holder benefits document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwDjfDDrGhcsLTJOYzd1ZkZ0WU0/view?usp=drive_web

By holding FSBT you will receive FSBL-Tokens (Forty Seven Bank Loyality Tokens) which you can spend on several Things in the loyality shop also you receive a lot of benefits when you are participating in the ICO

FSBT will be the Token traded on Exchanges
211  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 💠 FORTY SEVEN BANK 💠 – Verbindet Finanzwelten on: October 17, 2017, 08:00:44 AM
Wichtige Infos aus dem offiziellen Thread:

[Excellent, thanks for your quick response. I have one more question: What is the minimum deposit amount on pre-ICO?

Minimum donation on Pre-ICO is 4.7 ETH.

minimum Investition während der Pre-ICO sind 4.7 ETH



What is the Pre ICO cap?

Hello! The pre-ICO cap is 90 000 ETH.

Die pre-ICO ist auf maximal 90'000 ETH begrenzt




From which countries will clients be accepted to the bank?

Individuals from all the countries (except FACTA and sanction lists) will be able to become the clients of Forty Seven Bank. In the beginning we will work with business customers from the EU and in future with the growth of the bank we will expand our operations with businesses to other countries.

Kunden aus allen Ländern sind bei der Forty Seven Bank willkommen (ausser Personen auf die FACTA zutrifft oder auf der Sanktionsliste sind). Bei den Geschäftskunden wird sich dir Forty Seven Bank zuerst auf die EU begrenzen und sich dann zunehmendem Wachstum auch auf andere Länder expandieren




What will be the benefits for backers?

Token holders of FSBT tokens will get several important benefits:

1) They will be top priority clients of Forty Seven Bank and will receive yearly rewards in FSBL tokens that can be exchanged in our loyalty shop for wide range of different products and services, such as travelling, electronics, entertainment, clothing, etc. Forty Seven Bank will invest 20% of its net profit for previous year into loyalty program. The figure below describes this.



2) Token holders will be the first to try our products and services.

3) Developers and businesses who have FSBT tokens will be able to get full access to Forty Seven Bank products and services and will be able to upload their applications on Forty Seven App Platform or build automated business powered by blockchain and smart contract technologies.

These are the main benefits, but there are more of them.

Apart from that, contributors to our ICO campaign will get additional benefits from Forty Seven Bank based on the amount of their contribution.

You can find more information about this in our document Token Holders Benefits following this link:   https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwDjfDDrGhcsLTJOYzd1ZkZ0WU0/view

Was sind die Vorteile für FSBT (Forty Seven Bank Token) Besitzer?

Gemäss Grafik ist zu entnehmen, dass 20% des Profits dazu verwendet wird um FBSL-Tokens (Forty Seven Loyality-Tokens) auszuschütten.
1 FBSL-Token entspricht 1€ im Forty Seven Treueshop. Was genau darin zu finden ist findet ihr im Dokument "Vorteile für Tokenbesitzer" (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwDjfDDrGhcsLTJOYzd1ZkZ0WU0/view)
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TaaS — Tokenized Closed-End Fund on: October 17, 2017, 07:28:11 AM
Sooooo....

I did some calculating. The total value of the portfolio is now worth about 9.8 million. This means that the dividend is not gonna be as big as expected.

The problem is that TAAS has some weak positions. Anyone can see that.

Another question... the portfolio value is less than 10 million... why is the market cap 45 million? If I buy a basket of different cryptos for 10 bucks, will you buy it from me for 45? That's what's happening here.

The team should also reconsider the 25% management fee they take from the profits. It's far too high.

Good luck in the next weeks. Going to be exiting.

marketcap is not calculated by the stuff in the fund but the TAAS token itself.

the market has a Price of $5.5 there are 8,146,001 TAAS around so

5.5 * 8146001 = ~45 million

supply/demand decides the Price of TAAS and not whats inside the fund .. sure it's a part of cause no one wants to buy a fund which has crap in it however theres also other Things like future releases / news / dividends etc

btw how much dividend did you expected?
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Stratis analysis! Share thoughts. Price expectations. on: October 16, 2017, 08:30:55 PM
I do not have any hopes for Strat anymore.

what about the masternode release in q4?
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem on: October 16, 2017, 01:47:22 PM
Hello guys,
I saw this inscription - Please send ETH to cover GAS only (0.01-0.1) and I would like to understand what it means?
¨
You Need to contact some teammeber in bancor telegram they can help you Smiley
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TaaS — Tokenized Closed-End Fund on: October 16, 2017, 12:57:32 PM
what happens with the TAAS which are Held on exchanges during the snapshot & payout?

Who will receive the ETH? the exchange or the TAAS Team? Shouldb e split up to the guys which are holding their TAAS on the correct place Cheesy

It depends on exchanges whether they make payouts or not. But it's clear the team is not going to pay dividends on those addresses which belong to any exchange. You should move your tokens ti your own address before October 31

I do not think that the team is checking each adress manually .. my TAAs are on MEW just wanted to know what happens with those TAAS which are on exchnage-adresses and what happens with the dividend for them
216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: Forty Seven – Bounty – Twitter Campaign – RAGEmond on: October 16, 2017, 12:24:24 PM
Hi Team

I didn't receive any points for the Twitterweek but posted my report.

I'm line 89 in the Excel, could you please check?      

217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VSX] Darksend - POS 3.0 - Obfuscation - Masternodes - InstantTX [VSYNC] on: October 16, 2017, 08:46:55 AM
Can anybody tell me how the obfuscation function works and what it does? I have no idea and would like some more information about this Smiley

I want to know it as well Smiley
218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 💠 FORTY SEVEN BANK 💠 – Connecting Financial Worlds on: October 16, 2017, 08:37:50 AM
ERC20 , read whitepaper , all information is there Smiley
Thanks, also they have a one pager with basic information.
And where is this pager, is there any link?

did you even read the ANN?

"important documents" click on them

or you can find it on their Website which you've linked in your profile .. tab called "documents"
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] 💠 FORTY SEVEN BANK 💠 – Connecting Financial Worlds on: October 16, 2017, 08:32:44 AM
What does it happen if I do more tweets or post in twitter and facebook that are allow in the campaing? are they count or not?

you can only receive the maximum points per week .. what happens if you do more than required? you support the Project Smiley

Max points:

Facebook: In this campaign bounties are rewarded for actions committed on weekly basis. Participant can earn a maximum of 10 points per week if he fulfils these weekly requirements [...]

Twitter:
In this campaign bounties are rewarded for actions committed on weekly basis. Participant can earn a maximum of 2-5 points per week (depending on the number of followers he has, 300-999 followers – 2 points, 1000+ followers – 5 points) if he fulfils these weekly requirements [...]
220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem on: October 16, 2017, 08:31:08 AM
I successfully utilized the unexpected opportunity to buy at 35k satoshi by replacing my other token by BNT. I feel much more glad that total cost per token has declined for me whereas number of my total BNT token has increased significantly in last couple of days.

Yep, looks like now is better time to buy then ever. I doubt it will ever be cheaper (BTC price).
Actually I don't think BNT will rise very high before 25th, but still... after that it can get very interesting.

What will happen on the 25th?

The Bitcoin Gold fork of BTC will take place on the 25th of October. Then there is also the possible BTC fork in mid-November due to the Segwit2x update.
That's why the market is quite turbulent right now and also the reason why people are probably selling altcoins and accumulating BTC... to get the free coins from the fork(s).

Thanks. But the BNT price has been halved long time ago, the BTC forks might not affect it too much. Whats the main reason for BNT price being halved?

people which buy-in early or even in ICO and estimate a 1000x within 2 weeks but then realize that this sleeping giant Needs time to developp and leave the train .. even now when it's starting lol
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