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2001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: October 25, 2016, 07:11:01 PM
What about 20/20? What was the whole presentation about? What about that new product? Dont tell me Tiana lied to us.
2002  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: October 25, 2016, 04:14:51 PM

I don't think M2 is going to move the price, at least not like Draper's vote of confidence.  

You don't think "the capstone of this year and many others" (Snow) is going to move the price?


I don't think it will.  If it does you can say I told you so until you're blue in the face.  Sound fair? Smiley

I'll also say "I told you so!!!" because I'm sure your prediction is wrong. ;-)

A better question is why would you want the price to spike?  Are you guys traders? 

When did u actually get into crypto my friend? Which holder would not want it s holdings to increase in price? That s why we want the price to spike, so we want to sell and make some money. It s not a rocket science.
2003  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is investing in mining still worth it? on: October 25, 2016, 08:45:34 AM
Simple question: does anyone here know 100% real cloud mining service created in 2016? Service which offers serious contracts, has impeccable reputation and is proven to be paying?
I used to monitor cloud mining companies but after I noticed that this business is scam magnet I lost my hope. It is better to switch to casino bankroll investments or ICO.

Hashnest meets most of your criteria, besides the one being created in 2016. Still, they re rock solid in terms of reputation. The rest is shady at best or no chance of ever reaching ROI like Genesis Mining.
I do use a few alternatives and have even reached ROI on one of them but this is not something I could recommend unless you re ready to accept particular risk.
2004  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: October 25, 2016, 04:55:06 AM
He or they, re selling to themselves so no actual loss for that manipulator besides some trading fees. During that dump they try to create a wave, a ripple effect, which usually activates some stop loss triggers, shakes weak hands and lowers the price. Then they buy and repeat the same process only going up, buying from themselves until they reach a satisfactory price to sell.

Simple and effective tactics. Who loses? Weak hands and people with stop loss triggers. DONT GET MANIPULATED.
2005  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: New Mining-Invest Automated Platform on: October 25, 2016, 04:15:59 AM
I really do not understand what kind of person one needs to be to fall for scam like this one. I mean there re ponzies which look too good to be true but this, this is really laughable. If you invest into this, allowing you to own and invest more then $5 at a time is not a good plan.
2006  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: October 25, 2016, 04:11:54 AM
There is a lot of non sense posted recently so let me be clear, if your looking at a sites profit over a 5 day period your results will be all over the place. If you look at net win Betking has been the best return for years. There site has won 7100 bitcoins, I'm invested in many casinos but betking has been my best return.

Well, it is possible I m jumping to conclusion since I use them less then a week. Will be leaving my investment there for a month or two and then making my final verdict. However, as anything else, as soon as there s some glimpse of profitability, people saturate it quite fast. So I still have my doubts, big time.
2007  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: EarnLib - Library for Money Makers on: October 25, 2016, 04:06:27 AM
This is a nice attempt but you need to invest more money into promotion and marketing. Btw, I m not even sure you re allowed to promote something like this on this forum. Still, good luck.
2008  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: S9's insurance? on: October 25, 2016, 04:00:28 AM
Since it s an equipment which will be worth close to nothing in one year time, due to mining difficulty growth, I m not sure it s something you should consider ensuring. It all depends how big is your farm, if it s a really big investment then probably yes. I don't see any issue of any company providing this service as long you have a legit bill to provide proof of value of the new unit.
2009  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: new btc site advertising on: October 25, 2016, 03:56:47 AM
Starting a signature campaign s something which is highly recommended, it gets you lots of exposure but it also requires spending money to implement it. The other option is to auctions thread and bit for forum banners, that s very useful as well.
2010  Other / Off-topic / Re: [ANN] COINEX - EXCHANGE CRYPTO - FAST! on: October 24, 2016, 08:42:48 PM
How stupid you have to be to actually deposit money into this kind of scam BS? What kind of mindless opportunistic moron one have to be to expect profit from this knowing that even if you do get paid, your profit comes from money stolen from other people.

WHOEVER lost money here, DESERVED IT. Be smarter next time and to not feed crypto scammers. Crypto is a beautiful industry and does not deserve this kind of scam stuff.
2011  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: October 24, 2016, 08:39:04 PM
Betking generates peanuts recently, next to nothing for the last week or so. Hope the situation changes in the future, but for now, it s not even close of being profitable. 

Could they be deliberately hiding profits from the investors in some obscure way? In my view, after they have received so much free advertising on the forum (but was it really free?), many wannabe investors should be pouring their money into the bankroll of this casino in the hope of obtaining two digits profits. Something is fishy there. Is it not too good to be true really?

It s not about the lack of investment. People invest in their bankroll but I do know why cause they do not getting almost anything in return. I ve been testing them for 5 days and I ve made next to nothing, even might start losing money. Guess I need to find another casino website.
2012  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NetBet Becomes the UK's First Licensed Gambling Site To Accept Bitcoin on: October 24, 2016, 08:10:42 PM
Who cares about UK sites accepting anything. UK voted to get out of EU and they re not interesting from the point of financial market anymore. For anything else we do have US gambling website. UK s not relevant anymore.
2013  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: October 24, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Its very risky gambling

Investing in casinos is less risky as compare with gambling on. I think investment is good decision if we had some extra amount and can hold for some times. Than we could get profit by investing in gambling casinos because our will be on side of the house. Everybody know this the house always win in long run.

Although having an online casino might be profitable it is not guaranteed that all the investors will get their profit or even that they will have their money back. So it is better to invest in a site if you know the owner personally or if you can see that he/she have a great reputation here on this forum for example.
Also an option to make it a bit safer would be to invest in a site that will allow you to withdraw your coins instantly.
And definitely look for a site that has been around for a while.

I may be wrong, but I don't think that it's possible to withdraw your invested coins instantly from any site. There are conditions with which you must agree before investing and I think in most cases you are agree to invest for a certain period of time having the opportunity to withdraw only your "profit". I added speech marks to the word profit because I think only after you have all your invested money back you can really talk about a profit.

All good dice sites like BetKing.io allow you to divest instantly and withdraw your profit at any time.

Betking generates peanuts recently, next to nothing for the last week or so. Hope the situation changes in the future, but for now, it s not even close of being profitable. 
2014  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: October 24, 2016, 06:24:46 PM
True, this is how speculators and people chasing short term gains think. I look way beyond day to day trading. This token s real deal, you don't hold it cause of some BS expectation of a major pump. There s a real usage for EC which require Factom. Big difference.

?  What are you talking about.  Get a grip

What s not clear dude? You do know how Factoids re burned in order to get EC, entry credits. If you do not know how this works, I suggest reading a big about Factom before you criticize people who DO KNOW how this work. To be more precise, how this is going to work.
2015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: October 24, 2016, 04:06:16 PM
True, this is how speculators and people chasing short term gains think. I look way beyond day to day trading. This token s real deal, you don't hold it cause of some BS expectation of a major pump. There s a real usage for EC which require Factom. Big difference.
2016  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: October 24, 2016, 10:53:11 AM
Well, if it s a major product, the price should move to the next support level and stay there. At least this is the scenario we ve been facing for the last year or so.
2017  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ABSOLUTELY THE BEST BITCOIN INVESTMENT!What would that be? on: October 24, 2016, 06:14:07 AM
The best bitcoin investment
and very fast grow your bitcoin is only trading, but must have skill
I agree with you 100%. The best way to earn fast is venture into trading but before you go into trading you must be sure you have all the required skills that is expected of a trader. With that and a small amount of bitcoin you are good to go. But after becoming trader also, we need to have sharpening our skills, that is the big requirement in trading field.

Trading s not only about skill, it s also about luck. There have been numerous situations where a coin would go up or down 500% due to a reason an ordinary trader would never be able to comprehend beforehand. Personally, I do not like activities where luck plays that significant role cause the lack of it causes people to lose money. Just consider the fact that in order for you to gain money from trading, somebody else needs to LOSE money from trading. It s not as if added value gets created out of thing air.
2018  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Is Yobit scam? on: October 24, 2016, 06:09:37 AM
I ve been using them for over a year now and have never had any issues with the website. There were couple of situations when some particular wallet for undergo maintenance and it would be offline for a day or two but generally, no issues as all. Can you share your problem with the community, why do you think they re a scam?
2019  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: NOT RECEIVING SMS CODE! help on: October 24, 2016, 06:07:09 AM
What website r u talking about? Maybe u can contact support and switch to some other form of authorization. I use 2fa on everything and it s been working quite OK.
2020  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis-Mining Review on: October 23, 2016, 05:11:20 PM
They have offered similar contract just before Ether become available. Look how did that end up, terrible for people who have invested. As somebody before said, there s no single person which can provide evidence of even getting close to ROI. Their contract are at best lending money to them to build their farms at 0% interest. GM, how do you sleep at night after lying so much to people?

The contract they offered before the Ethereum price rise, was profitable after the Etheruem price rise.

Well, u dont listen to me. Go buy more of their hash. But pls first provide proof to me and everyone else about you or ANYONE else reaching ROI on their contracts. That should not be difficult.
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