Sadly yes as I'm not willing to participate in this under the new terms. Toilet pretty much.
I am sorry to hear this. I believe that very much, since is free money for you. Talkin 'bout zero-sum game. You won, until you didn't. But you are right being sarcastic with whom shows you a fake deference. That's very evil. I like it. |
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please explain it to me. For example, what happens if someone claims they held the asset but the asset issuer claims they weren't on the list? This could be resolved if GLBSE was actively participating or had made the lists cryptographically verifiable. But so far as I know, there is zero participation from Nefario/GLBSE.
Easy: just start paying back who is on the Nefario's list if you want be honest and consistent with your promise and past behavior. Who is not in the list, and say he should, can try his best to get things fixed with Nefario in order to get paid later, or just call the cops (the best option for everyone in this case imho). But using such cases as a pseudo-excuse to steal the assets of the most of your investors is just lame. Not to speak about deleting the original contract from his opening post and try to negate the content of his OP later, or forcing his investors to commit crimes testifying officially falsities while shifting his personal responsibilities to a phony LLC, etc. Anyway, it does not matter any more. No one can seriously expect to get anything back of their GLBSE investments beyond maybe some crumbs of single-digit percentage points in the most fortunate cases. Another lesson learned the hard way. |
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I don't think this kind of "HAHA I STOLE YOUR COINS AND BLAMED THE GOVERNMENT FOR IT" stuff is going to stop until someone gets the shit beat out of them.
+21000000 |
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Please submit all of the information according to the claims process.
Please anyone submit all of the info to the cops (I can't since I am in another continent). help! help! I'm getting scammed! (again) |
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Now I am thinking about sending him to the prison
I approve this message. Until some scammers get retribution and become an example, the bitcoinsphere will be a scammers' playground. |
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Hai dimenticato di spiegare come ricreare un wallet a partire da un pezzo de carta (oops) :-)
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I would not earn enaugh as a unlicensed taxi. Because I couldnt wait at the train station for customers..
Maybe U could using some location apps. When your clients book a ride you could agree to locate them with such apps on their smartphones, so to take them "on the fly" with no need for you to wait anywhere specifically. You would probably need a website or at least maybe a twitter account for that. |
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Do you realize that you are aggravating his position? If he did not trust Nefario from the beginning, then he voluntarily put at risk his investors' funds from day 1.
He didn't do that, his investors did. If GLBSE had run off with their money, would you have argued that's somehow his fault? If he did not trust Nefario from the beginning, but he resorted to use GLBSE anyway, then he exposed his investors to a third-party risk that he knew about without informing them about it. I think it's kind of illegal, and anyway highly unethical. Like blaming the victims after stealing their money, which is what he's going to do behind the para-legal crap shield he's asking for. Giga actually has no other option -- he never extended any trust to Nefaro/GLBSE nor did he ever agree to extend any. False. No other issuers asked for all the crap he is asking up to now (even if many would find profitable to steal their investors' assets in this way). That's kind of a circular argument. If this is his mess to clean up, then he extended trust. And if he extended trust, it's his mess to clean up.
In retrospect, we all should have thought of it, but I don't think anyone considered a sudden, complete GLBSE shutdown likely. Don't try to shift the blame. Nefario has already sent him a list of investors' assets. The jig is up. The most common risk is the risk of paying false claims. There is nothing to claim. The investors' assets list Nefario sent him should be considered true until the opposite is proven. Otherwise it is too easy for him to steal such assets with such lame argument. |
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Also, is there any plans to make Cognitive a legitimate company and avoid the current security exchanges until the crowdfunding laws are up and running?
Optimally, that is what I want to happen. I have no absolute plan as of now (I don't believe any of the assets do), and I will be researching and presenting a plan in the coming weeks. Anyone who wants to help with this process is more than welcome to! Cheers, Garrett I am against any attempt to go legit since it would end in the same way of Giga's mess. If you go that way, then I want my coins back in advance no questions asked. |
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What if I just want my btc back.
+1. I want out too. Giga send my coins back now no questions asked or you are a phuckin thieve. You already got my address. My GLBSE name is conspirosphere. [edit]: and since I want to sound reasonable and crystal clear: I don't want to be involved in any way with your phony LLC on which I crap on, not to speak about sending my ID to you or your accomplices. [edit 2]: all my contempt to the losers who are jumping in the hoops and playing nice guy just for the hope of recovering some crumbs of their investment. |
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You trusted Nefario enough to take our money.
He never necessarily extended any trust to Nefario at all. Asset issuers don't have to extend any trust at all to the exchange. You don't have to trust someone to take someone else's money -- the person giving them the money has to trust them to do the right thing with it. Do you realize that you are aggravating his position? If he did not trust Nefario from the beginning, then he voluntarily put at risk his investors' funds from day 1. Giga actually has no other option -- he never extended any trust to Nefaro/GLBSE nor did he ever agree to extend any. False. No other issuers asked for all the crap he is asking up to now (even if many would find profitable to steal their investors' assets in this way). The contract doesn't obligate him to accept these costs and risks. Which contract? The one he deleted like a weasel just before requiring for lots of para-legal crap? And which risks? To actually pay back his investors? You call that a risk? |
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What do you think is going to happen on the predicted date: World war? Aliens? Zombie Jesus army? Will you be hiding in your underground doomsday prepper bunker?
I believe just what I see, so for the moment just stoned cannibal zombies and dog-biting zombies going epidemic (when the unwashed masses will wake and discover that all their monies disappearead in the criminal banking black hole): http://highbrowmagazine.com/1673-man-bites-dog-rise-americas-zombie-lawsI already live in a bunker so no change on my side. |
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What is gigavps real name, address and tax ID (SSN)?
You left out the perjury he gets people to commit when claiming those funds in your step 6. Could someone please bother the SEC/FBI/CIA/what have you? KThx |
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just a little update for a coupla questions: I found that the ATI driver (11.12) sucks about 400 MB of Ram per each 58XX card installed, both in Seven 32 and x64. That's why in my 4 GB Ram system I get 2.7 GB only available ram from the exact moment that I install the ATI drivers on Seven x64 (before I install the drivers I got 4 GB available Ram (if I enable "remapping memory hole" in the bios). So I wonder if everybody else experience this huge waste of Ram from ATI cards or it's just me, and if there is a fix (apart from Linux). If I double my ram to 8 GB will I be able to get at least 6 GB of available ram on Seven x64? Or will the ATI ram waste double too? Or it will restart to BSOD? (I think I was able to install ATI drivers in Seven x64 with no more BSODs disabling something in the bios. But I am not sure about what exactly).
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Both the buyer and seller of a stolen television are screwed.
Fine for me. Just let's find a way to screw the seller too. |
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Is this nice thing supposed to work with XP x64? I am getting this every time that I try to launch it: http://i49.tinypic.com/1x107.jpgedit: No, now it works. It was because I needed .Net framework. Now it just does not connects to the pools. :-/ |
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2) No one who participated in the exchange (issuers or traders) knew it was illegal, and they operated in good faith.1
B/S. And therefore all your deductions are B/S too. Everybody knew from day one that GLBSE was absolutely illegal, not regulated and therefore worth just as much Nefario's trustworthiness. In fact Nefario was always bragging that he was beyond the law "because Bitcoin" (there is even a videoclip of him telling just that a few days before the closing). Now issuers who trusted Nefario should be ready to pay the consequences or their (maybe wrong) choice to trust Nefario, or at least be consistent with their choice. As serious businessman they should own any consequence of their choices, not because they do not put their personal interest above anything else, but because they should know that their reputation is their most precious and irreplaceable asset. Vice versa, changing the rules after taking the money is the most criminal act in all this. |
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My biggest doubt about bitcoins is due to their savagely hard deflationist nature: going on, spending and especially investing will be reduced at a minimum if at all, while their fiat price will swing between speculative booms and reality-based crashes, but ultimately is going to crash and stay crashed, since if everybody hoards them (because is definitely the most profitable thing to do with them), there will be no much real economy around them apart from the drug market.
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Just a question: does Bitminter includes TX fees in the miners payments?
Now after the halvening this is more important.
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