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2001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 18, 2023, 06:07:50 AM
I also think so it seems it will be difficult for Manchester United to be able to secure second place. The reason is that we know that currently the Red Devils have not won a single point and their chances will be increasingly slim in the next match. I feel Manchester United will miss the opportunity to qualify for the top 16 and they will at least finish in 3rd place and play in the European league with Liverpool. That is a possibility that I think could happen and regardless of whatever they try with the current situation, of course it is quite impossible. Galatassaray is a pretty definite candidate after Manchester United's failure in the last few matches and I think with decent squad depth they can maintain their current position in Group A.

If United can win all the remaining matches, they have a chance to qualify for the next round. Let's see how they will do in their matches in this competition. If the information I have collected is not wrong, several United players can be sure to have recovered from their injuries, especially the defensive line players. Even though the unpleasant news came from Luke Shaw, it is still not certain, but based on some of the information I got, Reguilon, T.Malacia, will return on October 22nd. Meanwhile, Luke Shaw is reportedly returning to join on October 23 as well.
Unfortunately, I cannot confirm the accuracy of this information. If this information matches what was reported, at least Ten Hag will again have additional ammunition for the defense line, unfortunately Lisandro Martinez is scheduled to return on January 14th.

Well, even though they only have a small chance of qualifying for the next phase. but the opportunity is always there, especially if Galatasaray is defeated by Bayern Munich on matchday three. The point is, Ten Hag must sweep all the remaining matches with a win. If not, their chance to progress to the next stage will be lost. Nevertheless, we agree. If they end up falling in the Group A phase, at least they have to be in 3rd place so United can play in the Europa League competition.
2002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 17, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
I wouldn't bet big on this fight. Because sometimes Al-Nassr actually gets bad results when facing teams that are not favored. In the previous match, we were surprised by the draw we got against Abha. In fact, between Abha and Al-Nassr there is quite a difference in strength. But Abha was able to maintain the rhythm of the game and hold Al-Nassr to a draw.
This time Damac could do the same. Because Damac is actually stronger than Abha.

Even Al-hilal was also held to a draw by Damac. And Damac also hasn't experienced defeat in the last few matches. So this match will probably be much more difficult than we imagined.

On paper, this match should be easily won by Al Nassr, considering that the two teams have a fairly obvious gap. That doesn't mean that if Damac is able to hold Al Hilal to a draw, it will also happen in the match against Al Nassr. although, the Damac team in its 4 matches in various competitions did not experience defeat. but after all, these two teams have different levels of player depth.

Honestly I don't mean to underestimate Damac, but they are ranked 10th, and Al Nassr is in 3rd position. Luis Casto's target is to reduce the difference in points from the top of the standings, by winning his match at home to Damac this week. Moreover, based on the available odds, it is clear that Al Nassr is the favorite team to win the meeting between these two teams in Week 10. except, if Luis Castro will not play some of his core players.
The reason is, they will also play a match in the AFC Champions League against Al Duhail, after playing a match against the Damac team. and this is our problem, because we don't have a lot of the latest information that we can dig up regarding every match that will be presented in the Saudi Pro League.

Anyway, I remain optimistic that Al Nassr will win this match. especially, if we refer to the H2H meeting of the two teams.
2003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 17, 2023, 09:17:11 PM
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BVB could actually be Bayern's arch rival for years, just like Real Madrid-Barcelona in La Liga.

However, unfortunately this philosophy is not like the top teams which keep their best players in the elite Bundesliga teams. Many talented players have moved to other teams, perhaps this is all due to business reasons, apart from stabilizing the club's finances. But in my opinion, as long as BVB cannot retain talented young players for the team's future, it will be difficult to become Bundesliga champions, let alone winning the UCL league, it will not be possible.

The problem is, Borussia Dortmund does not have large outside investors who are able to help them financially. That's why, if the Bundeliga wants to change like other leagues or the Premier League, the 50+1 system must be changed or revised. Unfortunately, there are many groups who oppose the policy of initially changing the 50+1 system. In the end, it's not only Dortmund who always sell their players, especially talented players who are potential stars. Other teams are not much different, one of the ways they make money is from selling players.
If Dortmund don't run their business and target trophies in various competitions, it seems their financial condition will experience problems. and this is inversely proportional to Bayern Munich, one of the richest giant clubs in this competition. in addition, they have Die Hard The Bavarian. So, Borussia Dortmund's vision is not to aim for trophies. In fact, every season they only maintain their consistency to remain in the top four of the Bundesliga and remain in the Champions League.

Uniquely, Dortmund is able to do this even though they always sell their star players. So, don't have high hopes for Dortmund to win trophies in various competitions. except, like last season when Bayern Munich experienced a decline in performance and did not have a center forward. at the same time, Dortmund is in its best form after entering the second half of the season. Moments like this rarely happen. However, this season is as unique as last season. The difference is, currently Leverkusen is Bayern Munich's competitor. However, we cannot yet confirm how consistent Xabi Alonso's squad will be when competing until the end of the 2023/2024 season.
2004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 17, 2023, 08:29:17 PM
At least they have had a bit of an uptrend the last three games. I thought that Mourinho is about to get sacked, but I guess that winning three games in a row with 10:1 goals helped him save his position, although I am unsure whether Mourinho is interested at all to fulfill his contract with Roma or whether he would be happy about getting sacked. I think he hasn't been the coach he used to be for quite a while now and sometimes when you watch him, it looks like he is following the game with some kind of disinterest. I would be surprised if we don't soon see him making a lot of money in Saudi Arabia. To me it seems that this is what he is waiting for.

Talking about this once phenomenal coach, now his career is starting to fade. To be honest, I rarely watch Serie A, but now it seems Mourinho is starting to try to change the philosophy of how he implements his system. Even though it's not uncommon, the bus parking formation is still its mainstay. That is why Mourinho is unable to compete with new coaches who promote modern football.

But talking about AS Roma, in their last three matches at different events. they won their matches with good results, three matches with ten goals and only conceding one goal. However, their position in the domestic league is still in the middle rank. That means, Jose Mourinho must further improve the performance of his team's squad to continue on the right track. thus, they can move up the rankings. In this way, he can still maintain his coaching reputation and does not need to coach the Saudi Pro League club.
By the way, so far AS Roma has had no problems in their two matches in the Group G phase. Even though they are currently in second place, they are actually capable of overthrowing Slavia Prague in the next match and occupy first place in Group G. and I'm quite sure, in this group phase Roma can advance to the next round. Moreover, if Mourinho is able to improve the performance of his players.
2005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 17, 2023, 08:06:10 PM
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Kylian Mbappe is wasting solid years with Les Parisiens because he's yet to achieved significant titles with the club, always settling for lesser outcomes which no longer fits the standards of the Frenchman. He has growned to become one of the big names in the France national team and also in Ligue One, he's important under the managerial role of every manager, why? Because he's the main player in the team that's capable of pulling big threat to their oppositions consecutively. It's high time he triggers move to one of the big clubs that would cherished his presence and valued him.

It is very likely that the PSG star will leave in the next summer window, yep, according to the rumors spread so far. Who knows how it will work out, but the intention to move clubs has become a unanimous decision for him, now the problem is whether Mbappe is willing to negotiate with the club management so that he wants to renew his contract. with the scenario that Mbappe can still move clubs next summer, and PSG will at least get a little money to let him go. because after all, PSG is currently being targeted regarding FFP which could happen to them. It could be that, if an agreement is reached, the price for Mbappe's release will not be as high as before. and maybe, Madrid will actually bring him in next season. and it seems, this scenario is more ideal.

Moreover, if we refer to Madrid, who only borrowed Joselu for one season. However, it does not rule out the possibility of Mbappe terminating his contract as a free agent. Yep, everything is not ruled out. for sure, we will find out later.
but for now, I believe the focus is on the team and playing as well as possible. under Enrique's control, there doesn't seem to be as much unpleasant gossip regarding them unlike when they were still under Galtier's coaching. This week, PSG will play a match against Strasbourg. Full points is what they are targeting, in order to become top of the standings, even if only temporarily, Even then, if Nice and Monaco also win their matches. thus, PSG will return to third place. but if it is the other way around, they can maintain being at the top of the standings.
2006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 17, 2023, 07:31:13 PM
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Manchester City until now played without De Bruyne and they can still achieve 3rd position in Premier League and won 2 matches in Champions League. They're already been great so far, even though De Bruyne is currently a Manchester City's heart.

De Bruyne will also get older, it's just a part of regeneration and Manchester City seems quite success since they're still in good form.

We agree. It's just that if we try to see what Pep planned and did, there were changes made when De Bruyne suffered a long injury. Several times I tried to examine what Pep did with his team, as well as the system he implemented. In fact, based on my personal point of view, Pep is trying to make several rotations and look for the best composition with the ideal pattern for the available players. In the end, in several matches, Pep implemented his 3-2-4-1 pattern again. Even though his team did not play optimally, they still played well and won the match, especially against Leipzig on the second matchday of the Champions League.

The problem is different when City meets a tougher team, as proven against Arsenal, Pep chose to apply the same 4-3-3 pattern. that means, I assume that even though City continued to play the match well, the needs and performance of the team's squad were not completely what he expected. therefore, Guardiola tried several times to rotate his players. In fact, Grealish is often left on the bench. However, I think the coach is preparing something else for his team due to several players leaving and De Bruyne's injury. Well, we'll see what happens next.
On Matchday three, their opponents will be Young Boys. Most likely, Guardiola will rotate some of his players again.
By the way, so far City have not experienced any problems in this competition and I remain confident that they will continue to play their best in this competition.
2007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 17, 2023, 06:58:29 PM
Of course, it was a crucial match for Manchester City. Pep Guardiola has a good chance to stop his team's streak of bad results after two unwanted defeats in the last two matches, the chance of winning is good because Manchester City is playing at home.

Brighton is not a weak team and their goal statistics in the last 8 matches seem to have warned everyone that they are capable of being a threat to any team. Manchester City's defense will have to be very wary of Brighton's players if they don't want to concede, but I believe that Manchester City has no doubts in this match. I don't consider Manchester City to lose points at home, in fact I'm not sure about a draw.

In the last meeting between these two teams last season, the match ended with a score of 1-1, at that time Manchester City was held to a draw at Brighton's headquarters. We know very well that Brighton often makes things difficult for the big teams who meet them. However, City is a much tougher team than De Zerbi's squad. Moreover, this match was held at the Etihad, City's headquarters. Apart from that, several players who were injured and suspended due to red cards are ready to return to play with their teammates. Also, Pep will not let his team experience defeat for the umpteenth time. which means, City will target full points to move back to the top of the Premier League standings.
However, after this match, City will play their match in the near future on the third matchday of the Chanpions League group stage against Young Boy in an away match. However, it doesn't matter because City have scored 6 points from the previous two matches. Even without De Bruyne who is suffering from a long injury, they will still play a good game and are targeting victory over Brighton.

On the other hand, in the last 4 matches played by De Zerbi's squad. they did not achieve positive results, two matches with defeats and two with a draw. Uniquely, this team often troubles strong opponents. Even in the previous match, De Zerbi's team was able to hold Liverpool to a draw. If I can be honest, as an Arsenal supporter, I want this match to end in a draw or defeat for City. However, if we talk from a betting perspective and the quality of City's players, they have a high probability of winning even though so far they have not shown their best version of the game.
2008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 17, 2023, 06:30:55 PM
Marcel Desailly was probably wrong. I think Mbappé is suitable for Manchester City. I see scoring monster Erling Haaland in the hands of Pep Guardiola. He helped Haaland reveal all his strength. Is Mbappé's true power truly untapped? Put it in Pep Guardiola's hands, and you'll see.
Mbappé is a complete player, and he's just an arrogant young man who hasn't met the right teacher yet. The fact that he intends to move to Real Madrid is also very good, but who will Real Madrid's next coach be? Mbappé should also choose a good teacher for himself.

It doesn't matter what Marcel Desailly says, because wherever Mbappe plays he will still be able to adapt. especially, if it is handled by a competent coach and a qualified team. Based on my point of view, Mbeppe is a player who is ready to play at whatever club he wants to play for. in that sense, a big club or any big club in Europe's top league. If Mbappe joined City, this team would be even more unopposed, IMO. there are two big stars of the current era, playing together as a team. Plus, handled by an extraordinary coach who has many truly proven tactics, strategies and systems.

It's just that the problem is the coach and the French star. The conflict between coaches and players will be very big if Mbappe joins Manchester City. and we all know, Pep Guardiola often clashes with the coach. and the same goes for Mbappe, it seems like the player is difficult to manage according to the coach's wishes and we have seen that before. Regardless if Pep is able to make Mbappe further unleash his talent and potential, Mbeppe already has great talent. that is why, it is unlikely that Mbappe will be willing to join Manchester City. Apart from that, the team he idolizes is Real Madrid. with Madrid, maybe Mbappe can play freely without pressure.
2009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 17, 2023, 06:07:59 PM
Even though Madrid is the favorite in this match, they still cannot underestimate Sevilla because even though Sevilla's performance is still not very good at this time, they will definitely put pressure especially now they are playing at home with the support of many militant supporters, so surely they will try to give their best for the final result even though Madrid is still believed to be 3 points but Sevilla will definitely strive for the results of the points also for them even though it is difficult.

I myself expect something else in this match because this is the time when our captain Sergio meets his colleague with the status of opponent.

It is clear that Madrid is far superior in this match, even though this match is an away match. Madrid played their matches very well with wins, even though they lost once when they were away against Atletico in the city derby match. After that, Madrid played well again and won the next match.
Meanwhile, Sevilla's condition is not that good, especially since they just changed coaches after the club management fired Mendilibar. I think, however, Madrid has a big enough probability of winning this match later.

But what's interesting is that both teams will play together in the Champions League after this meeting. so we can assume for the time being, it could be that the two teams will not play all out. or maybe, Sevilla will still go all out playing at full strength. and yep, I'm sure Ancelotti will not underestimate his opposing team even though Sevilla is in a very unconvincing performance. However, that doesn't mean Madrid isn't targeting full points in this match. because after all, Madrid is only a few points away from the teams below their ranking. To remain at the top of the standings, they must take the three points home to the Santiago Bernabeu.
2010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 16, 2023, 01:53:47 PM
Leverkusen has become a team that has performed brilliantly this season. The team is undefeated in the Bundesliga so far. Apart from the excellent performance in the Bundesliga, this team is also performing well in the European league. The way they have been performing has caused headaches for the best teams in the Europa League and Bundesliga. We have considered Liverpool as one of the favorites in the Europa League but the way Leverkusen have been performing this season they could do either. 
Bundesliga Bayern Munich are performing well but they still can't put Leverkusen at the bottom of the points table. Since no match has been lost in the first seven matches, it is assumed that this team may become a consistent team.

For me, this is still the beginning. In fact, we know very well that in Group H there is no opponent that is quite equal for Leverkusen. So far, they have scored 6 points from the two matches they have played. Well, in the upcoming match against Qarabag, Leverkusen doesn't seem to be experiencing any significant problems. it seems, they will progress smoothly and qualify for the next round. and more interesting matches will be presented in the round of 16, especially if several teams that failed in the Champions League also join in by qualifying for the playoffs later.
And only then, this competition looks like it will be more exciting for us to watch, especially since it involves betting. and we can see and even know how far Xabi Alonso is able to take his team to advance in this competition. I won't go too far in speculating, but based on their current performance, both in this competition and even in the Domestic League, Leverkusen has a pretty good chance.

On the other hand, Liverpool were previously predicted to win the Europa League trophy. and yep, they have a chance of that. It's just that, we'll see how far they will go. because several other teams could provide surprises. who knows, anything could happen anyway. IMO, Marseille has a chance to qualify, especially after changing coaches. although, we cannot be sure whether Gattuso will be able to make his team's squad much better.
apart from that, Roma also performed quite well in this competition, Jose Mourinho's squad only needed to overthrow Slavia Prague to be in first place in the group phase. The teams I mentioned in this post, especially those whose performance we consider not very convincing, could provide surprises. Therefore, we just follow every match presented in the Europa League.

2011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 16, 2023, 01:23:21 PM
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From the start, Group F was predicted to be very fierce because these 4 teams had the opportunity to qualify from the group phase, and after 2 matches that had been played, Newcastle was surprisingly able to become the current leader of Group F standings by winning 4 points from 1 draw and 1 win. and in my opinion even now we still can't predict with certainty who will qualify from the group.

Meanwhile in Group B, Arsenal will of course be very favorites even though they lost against Lens in their second match, but if you look at the quality of this team, I don't have the slightest doubt that they can qualify from the group and even become top of the group standings in the future.

This is quite interesting, let's wait for matchday three in Group F. the two matches presented were both interesting. Newcastle against Dortmund, will they be able to return to what they were like when they beat PSG. or, Dortmund actually overthrew Newcastle. considering that there is no guarantee that after they beat PSG, they will automatically beat Dortmund. Although, previously Dortmund's performance was very, very suboptimal. However, recently Dortmund seems to be starting to find its rhythm again, as well as their strikers who are starting to score goals again. In this competition, Dortmund is at the bottom of the group phase.  lost against PSG, ended in a draw at home to AC Milan.

On the third matchday, Terzic will not let his team be defeated by Newcastle. even the meeting between these two teams could potentially end in a draw. remember, when Newcastle played against PSG, Enrique failed miserably in implementing the system and rotating his players. and that's why, IMO, Newcastle was able to overthrow PSG.
Another match, PSG versus Milan. Well, let's see what Enrique will do with his squad. If Enrique doesn't try to experiment like the match against Newcastle, they should be able to overcome Milan.
Talking about Arsenal, I'm sure Arteta doesn't want his team to collapse again like in the match against Lens. So to strengthen their position in this group stage, they have to win every match they play. whether it's a home or away game.
2012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 16, 2023, 12:22:15 PM
Sven Ulreich performance not really quit well with Bayern Munich in this season, have played 9 matches all competition between Bundesliga and UEFA Champion League have conceded 10 goals with 6 goals in domestic league and 4 goals in Champion League. Seems very poor performance and Bayern Munich not try to sign new goals keeper to be competitor for Sven Ulreich. Have rumor to sign David De Gea but Bayern Munich not reach agreement deal actually De Gea have impressive performance with Manchester United and become free agent make Munich doesn't have spent money for transfer fees. Looking on Sven Ulreich performance, its not late for Bayern Munich sign new goal keeper waiting with Manuel Neuer from injury, still have many matches left and David De Gea as free agent can sign anytime without waiting with transfer window opening and already playing for Bayern Munich.

It could be, if previous communication had been established between Bayern and De Gea. However, it seems that an agreement has not been reached. either because of salary, or he is just an option before Neuer returns to the field with Munich. Maybe that's why De Gea is not interested if Bayern offers him a contract. As an established goalkeeper and a big name, I don't think De Gea will be willing to just be a temporary goalkeeper. We can refer to Yann Sommer, even though I think this Swiss goalkeeper's work with Bayern is not that bad. However, he chose to leave, because previously there were rumors that Neuer would return as the main goalkeeper in the 2023/2024 season.

Well, now we are talking from Sven Ulreich's side. As you said, the goalkeeper has conceded 10 goals during Bayern's matches both in the Bundesliga and in the Champions League. However, if we remember the initial match in the German Super Cup, Sven Ulreich also conceded 3 goals, so a total of 13 conceded. I don't want to say that this goalkeeper always performs badly, but in big matches or when he meets a strong enough team, he always concedes. which means, Tuchel has other work to do to find a way to cover his weaknesses in the last line of defense of his team's squad.
For now, there are not many options other than Ulreich to improve his performance. plus, Thucel strengthened his squad's defense line players. if there is no development that leads to good progress.This means that Bayern must find an ideal goalkeeper next January and at the same time add several defenders.Thus, the Bayern Munich squad will be much stronger and very ready to face even tough teams.
2013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 16, 2023, 11:51:27 AM
Manchester City has taken an interest in signing Toni Kroos:
Manchester City appear to be looking for a veteran presence to replace Ilkay Gundogan in midfield. Spanish outlet Defensa Central reports that Real Madrid is targeting Toni Kroos as a free agent in 2024.
His contract at Madrid expires next June, and his age means he could negotiate with clubs outside Spain when the January window opens; if City join, they can offer a pre-contract deal to see him move to Manchester once his current contract expires.Kroos fended off interest from clubs in the United States and Saudi Arabia in the summer before signing a new one-year deal with Real Madrid, but that decision is likely to be tested by Manchester City afterwards. The same report in Spain suggests City is willing to offer Real Madrid a two-year contract for twice the current salary of £6.8 million.
What do you think, guys? Is that really happening, or is it just a rumor? Give us your thoughts


I still can't understand Pep no matter how he makes things to be plain, like what is Pep Guardiola cooking this time around? Where other managers sees players who are above 30 as a problem Pep just have to go and make something great out of them, I so much love the way he goes about business.
Some would ask, what does Toni Kroos have to offer at his age. I believe Pep Guardiola can't get his eyes off Gundogan's style of play that's why he's going for the Madrid man, well I feel that's another addition to the Citizens and they can do anything to get his signature.

I just read a glimpse of the Mundo Deportivo report, Manchester City are interested in recruiting Kroos next summer. However, I am not sure about the validity of this rumor. But let's just assume this rumor is what it is, I can understand what Pep wants from this Real Madrid midfielder. If we refer to Toni Kroos' contract this season, this is his last contract with Los Blancos, he will be a free agent next summer. considering that Kroos is an established player, reliable and qualified with experience. His actual role can still be relied on, even though he is 33 years old. After all, Kroos was under the tutelage of Pep Guariola when he was still managing Bayern Munich.

If Pep brings him to the Etihad Stadium, at least he can still be relied on for the next two seasons. even though his stamina is no longer what it was at a young age, the experience requirement is what Pep needs. The point is, Pep wants to implement his mainstay system with 3-2-4-1. With Kroos, the void that was left by several players in the last transfer window can be filled again. which means, even though Kroos was brought in at quite an old age. However, Pep can still rely on his contribution with the system he implements. and I think, it will work. It could be that City will be like last season when Gundohan was still there. even personally, Kroos is more ideal. Pep can make this German player the main starter in Manchester City's crucial matches. Well, actually if Pep Guariola really wants this midfielder from Madrid. they could bring him in next January. after all, money is no problem for City. However, it is very likely that Madrid will not release him until his contract ends. plus, we can't be sure if these rumors are true. Nevertheless, Pep would ideally look for a player who is a little easier than Kroos. However, with experience and established conditions.
2014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 16, 2023, 11:00:53 AM
Seeing the odds that Atletico got in this away match makes me wonder whether they will win again? because the odds are very big for Atletico and I quite doubt they can win easily. Maybe we will see these two teams attack each other and Celta Vigo will definitely take advantage of their home advantage so that Atletico cannot steal points from them.

However, that doesn't apply if in the first half Atletico was ahead by more than 1 goal because we know that Atletico's level of productivity has been very high so far. Moreover, their striker Alvaro Morata is on fire and currently he has collected 5 goals with Atletico. I am very sure that Alvaro Morata will score another goal in this match and of course he doesn't want to lose to Real Madrid midfielder Jude Bellingham who is currently at the top of the temporary top scorers with 8 goals.

It's a little strange if we refer to the odds currently available, in fact Celta Vigo is currently ranked 16th in the standings. In the last 5 matches that Celta played, they did not win once, 3 matches were defeats and the other 2 matches ended in a draw. In contrast to Atletico, in their 5 matches in La Liga they only experienced 1 defeat, after that they again performed well with 4 wins. Indeed, if we refer to the Atletico squad, they have several players who are injured. however, Diego Simione has a replacement option. except, if Diego Simeone will not play some of his core players in the match against Celta Vigo. because after the match against Celta, ATM will play its away match at Celtic headquarters in the Champions League group phase on Matchday 3.

Considering that even though ATM is currently in first place in the group phase, their position is not yet safe. because it is only 1 point away from Feyenoord, the same 4 points as Lazio. In the match against Celtic, Simeone must prepare his team to achieve victory to secure their position in the Champions League group E phase.
Meanwhile, the home team will insist on playing to get full points so that their position moves up to a safer zone. Well, for now I don't want to speculate too far because I haven't received any information regarding the two teams. for the time being, referring to the odds options for both teams, there is a possibility that Atltico will not play their full core of players.  If this is true, the draw option is ideal, even for the home team. However, if Simeone plays his core players, you can be sure that they will dominate the match and their probability of winning is quite large. The point is, we wait until this match is held. If possible, we bet when the first half whistle sounds to confirm Atletico's line-up in the match against Celta Vigo.
2015  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 16, 2023, 10:05:11 AM
Marseille has not shown consistent performance so far. And I think people will agree with me that Gattuso has brought similar type of results before as well. He was also not bringing in consistent results even with his previous teams. But maybe things will change with time. I am not sure about that to be honest. so far the results that he has brought are definitely not something expect him to bring consistent results.

A victory in the next match against Nice is probably going to be hard for them. But it is achievable. Let’s see what happens. But there is a big chance that this match is going to end in a draw.

We know very well when Gattuso was still managing a La Liga club last season, namely Valencia. he even had difficulty making Valencia much better, and ultimately led to his dismissal. Now, the former AC Milan central midfielder has returned to the job of managing the Marseille club which was previously managed by Marcelino. Well, look at his three matches with Marseille. At least even though there are many doubts about this coach, for me he is better than Marcelino. BTW, what I mean is the patterns and systems promoted by these two coaches.

As I said before, when Marseille made Marcelino the coach of their team. This coach is more into defensive pattern play and has proven to experience more defeats and draws. Now, Gattuso is in charge of Marseille with an offensive system. At least, there are differences that lead to something in Marseille's future progress. His three matches with Marseille at least show that under his guidance Marseille are now more capable of scoring goals. On his first debut against Monaco, he was able to put his team ahead but unfortunately Monaco was able to turn things around so the score became 3-2.
In the Europa League when Marseille played Brigthon, his team took the lead with two goals. unfortunately, Brigthon was able to equalize in the end. In their third match, Marseille was able to win over Le Havre with a score of 3-0.
It is clear that there is progress towards improvement under Gattuso, although we are not sure whether he can bring his team to consistency or not. But now Marseille is more productive in terms of scoring goals, he just needs to fix his team's weak defensive line.  and we'll see how far he is able to take Marseille in a better direction.
2016  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and it effects on: October 16, 2023, 09:14:43 AM
The important thing need to understand in the gambling is the gambler start the gambling with the little money.But some people doesn’t ready to calculate the outcome from the gambling,the gambler should calculate the loss of profit for every betting in the gambling.The gambler should keep the spreadsheet for the every betting in the gambling.So they understand the total amount of the dollars used in the gambling,it help the gambler to pause the gambling after the continuous loss in the gambling.Some people not ready top risk their money in the gambling,So such people can use the other game for the entertainment compared to the gambling.

What you say, is a step that is usually rarely done by gamblers. in fact, I didn't. but what is certain is that there is nothing wrong with the points you convey in this post. Most importantly, this can make you control the gambling you do and that can make you much better. For me personally, basically currently gambling is a type of instant entertainment among society in the modern era. BTW, my current understanding is different from my understanding when I was young.

Now, gambling can be considered fun entertainment in the midst of our busy routine activities. In short, ideally gambling should be treated like an entertaining game. However, it is important to remember and understand that this type of entertainment contains risks. As technology develops over time, and technology advances rapidly, so does our level of understanding of something. if we don't have a broad understanding, in this context gambling, then as the OP said in this thread. gambling and its impacts, but it doesn't include anything positive that we can certainly take away. However, this depends on our perspective on gambling itself, and our own definition of gambling. and what is certain is that everyone has different ways and points of view.

Let's just discuss it straight to the main point, which must be understood by those who are interested or who like to gamble. In essence, this entertainment contains quite a variety of risks for each fan. So, whatever we say, talk about, discuss, it all comes back to ourselves and how we play gambling and how we treat it. in particular, so that the impact of negativity does not affect our lives.
2017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: October 16, 2023, 08:45:17 AM
By being open to our family about the gambling we do, this also reduces the burden when we experience problems, because it could be that when we experience defeat or are addicted to gambling, it is the family who provides support and advice to us, so that we don't feel alone in carrying it. the problems we experience. And most importantly, we must be ready to accept any suggestions or advice from the family so that we don't gamble excessively. Even if you have to stop gambling for the common good.

The point you make is one of the things that someone who wants to stop their addiction must do, as the title in this thread suggests. In fact, what you say is true and there is nothing wrong. It's just that, in most cases or certain cases, things are not as simple as we discussed in this post.
However, support from people closest to you or family is an important part of the steps to stop the addiction. Not a few gamblers, who are open to their families about the problems that happen to them can be a solution and some of them even recover from their addiction.

However, in most cases, other treatments are usually required for recovery. Family factors are one of the supporting factors. There are several methods, and certain ways to recover from excessive habits. Usually, someone needs an expert role to help with the recovery. in fact, not in a short time. even if someone experiences quick recovery from their addiction, it is a good breakthrough for someone who wants to get rid of their addiction. but the point is, what is called addiction, can come back again one day. So, at this point, we can implant the results of the treatments or methods that have been applied as a result of therapy firmly in our minds and hearts.  and for those of us who still like this hobby activity, just enjoy each game with the idea that it is only part of the entertainment.
2018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don’t push playing more on: October 16, 2023, 08:01:27 AM
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The only good news is this time I remember how this weakness of mine always makes me lose in the past so I stop already gambling and take a break. This is what I’m trying to share here. If you really feel that your gambling doesn’t want to make you move forward by having decent profit and just giving you a hard time then don’t hesitate to quit! Don’t push forward while you are already playing uncomfortably because this will just make you bet recklessly.

Have a break and just gamble newt week or month because a lucky game will make you win easily and not with a very hard to win winning condition.

Your experience, is our experience.

I really understand what you are saying in this thread, and so does our experience. I think almost most gamblers have and often experience this, even over and over again like an endless cycle, especially when our emotions and feelings of anger are involved in one moment of a gambling session as you describe in this thread. In my experience, moments like this often occur when I play live casino games or in the current version of playing slots. Not infrequently we will always try to force ourselves to play more, although not in every case we lose in a session.
There are also times when we win, but we don't want to stop the gambling session. This is not a matter of greed for me, but rather a sensation and curiosity that is too high as to how far I can play it. although in most cases, in the end we lose. Challenges like that often make us play more. We often forget, or are too engrossed in the game, especially in the exciting moment phase, which in other words is in a winning condition. but since what we are discussing in this thread is the loss version, so let's discuss it a little.

Well, I agree with the title of your thread. I also have a saying, never force luck if in the end the opposite happens. and this is what often happens to gamblers, we always push our luck and play too much. The point is, as you said as well as I said too. If basically a game no longer seems fun, you should not hesitate to stop. take a break, have fun with something else after we recover from the state of irritation, anger and so on, we can start back to the gambling session.
2019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Drake's Curse. on: October 16, 2023, 06:39:39 AM
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The Drake's Curse.

He lost on the right man. We have experienced losses but not as bad as this...this is just terrible.

What do the gambling folks have to say about this?

We are no stranger to Drake and his gambling, it's no surprise that he was able to lose something we didn't expect. maybe for us, or say it is me, in that amount I can do a lot with my wishes outside of gambling. the amount of money he lost, was fantastic for me personally. well, the case is different for him. This person has abundant wealth, for him this defeat may be a normal problem and just an unpleasant day for him. however, it will not have a major impact on his financial condition. after all, this is gambling and its risks, even though we have involved it with the knowledge we have with statistics and available data. but in fact, he fully understood what he had risked.

On the other hand, suppose I were as rich as he is. perhaps, for me losing the money wagered in the bet that is the theme of this thread, is not so much of a problem. after all, he lost something with what he could afford. In fact, I'm not that familiar with boxing sports betting. However, that doesn't mean I don't like watching this type of sport. I will apply it to another type of sports betting, namely football. In football, a team that is strong, tough and sturdy, there is no guarantee that they will always win every match they play. which means, sometimes we lose in our bets, even though we have chosen the right team. and this is gambling, there is no 100% guarantee that we will win.  In fact, we are well aware of it.
2020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning Wisely: Strategies to Protect Your Bankroll on: October 15, 2023, 09:22:41 PM
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Act promptly if your emotions start influencing your decisions. Both excessive fear and greed pose significant risks.

OK, after I read the long list of points you said in this thread, there's actually nothing wrong with it. in fact, I appreciate the time you took to write this long list. Maybe, it will be helpful for some beginners in our community. However, in fact, what you have described in this long list, we actually already know and understand very well what it should be like and how to be a good and responsible gambler. From the point to point that you convey, there is nothing wrong even though I only read it briefly. However, in practice it is not as easy as you describe in this thread. what you write can be used as a guide, but in practice it is not as simple and easy as we say or even write it down. because after all, gambling will always involve emotions.

Talking about emotions, it all depends on the situation and conditions when we carry out a gambling session. when we lose, the emotion of having fun becomes an emotion of anger. At this point, we are faced with neutralizing ourselves so as not to chase losses. When we win, the emotion we emit is immense joy. However, if the game continues, the risk of defeat is always lurking around us. Well, in principle what you say is not wrong. However, all of this must be understood first. also, how we engage awareness, self-control, discipline and responsibility. In the end, the ideas or points you say can be carried out well. that is, if we can be consistent.
For me, whatever the point or method. There is nothing better than gambling within the limits we can afford without having to harm other parties, especially family. plus, enjoy and have fun. because nowadays, gambling is more of a modern type of entertainment and not a way to earn income. If it is no longer fun, the game session is stopped. and yes, it's that simple. although in practice, it is not uncommon for us to get carried away by the atmosphere and emotions in gambling sessions.
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