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2001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: October 03, 2017, 01:07:08 AM

These fans have humidistat and temp control, we are going to run the controlls for every fan down to where the switches for powering on and off each fan are so it is easier to access


 Definitely screw them into the boards they're being mounted to.

 Also, the humidity and temp SENSORS are in those boxes with the controls, are you sure you want to move them away from where the fans are at?
 Kind of a tradeoff if you do or if you don't, depending on where you DO mount them - right at the intake area for your miner shelves should work well.

 Gonna need more conduit though if you do move them, for core requirements - or some way to "hide" the wiring in the wall(s).

 A single 2x4 in the middle of the hole isn't going to affect airflow noticeably, shouldn't be an issue.
 Might have made sense to put a centering hole in from underneath FIRST though to avoid that.
2002  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: October 03, 2017, 01:00:30 AM
Here's my latest rig.  $15 worth of 3/4" x 3/4" x 36" "dowels" from Home Depot, and a $8 36" wide shelf that is 12" deep.

I know a lot of you don't like risers, but I have been very pleased with the 007 versions and powering them directly from the PSU via a 6-pin VGA plug.  I have also not had any issues with using M.2 adapters, you just have to be very careful to center it in the slot.

 Nice cooling on that, and isn't that one of those Delta server supplies powering it?
2003  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Good Network Switch? on: October 01, 2017, 11:36:06 PM
Unifi is the best price/quality in the market.

Currently running a Ubiquiti edgerouter, POE switch, managed switch, and 3 wifi AP's. They all just work.

 Oh, Ubiquiti

 That's another story - they aim at Cisco for their competition, not any "lesser" brands.
 I think they used to consider their only "peers" to be Cisco, Northern Telecom, and PERHAPS 3Com at the bottom end of their range.

2004  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Ubuntu or Windows for mining altcoins ? on: October 01, 2017, 11:32:59 PM
still; you "consider" your opinion to be higher than any else.   No more to be said.  Look at the bigger picture;  not a facet.

 My opinion is based on one heck of a lot of related experience working with a very wide range of hardware over decades of both professional AND personal experience.

 It's also a very widely held opinion by the large majority of folks I have EVER discussed the subject with or seen postings from.

 Have you ever considered why the majority of the World Wide Web and pretty much ALL of the backbone for it runs on LINUX, Unix or Cisco's old internaly-developed OS, NOT on Windows, despite massive Microsoft BILLIONS of marketing to change that and the much easier ability to find programmers for Windows?

 Here's a clue - it's the RELIABILITY, STABILITY, and PERFORMANCE (adherence to standards used to be a major issue as well, but Microsoft HAS cleaned up it's act for the most part there by lack of choice) - and this is WIDELY DOCUMENTED.
2005  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread on: October 01, 2017, 11:22:34 PM

I'm also getting tired of the "every day or two" wallet reboots in the current version - though that was supposedly fixed MONTHS ago, more than a bit irritating that bug is BACK AGAIN.

Are you still having problems with 3.6.2.0? That one was just released a few days, not months, ago.

 2 reboots yesterday alone, though it's usually been one every other day or so for the past 2-3 weeks.

 Did NOT have this issue for a long time (the "months ago" comment), but now it has returned.

2006  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Zcash on: October 01, 2017, 11:16:33 PM
With AMD 400 and 500 series cards, how much are you undervolting for zec/zen mining? and are you underclocking the core too like with eth?

 Underclock core on ZEC/ZEN = BAD thing, the algorithm is not severely memory-limited like ETH is.
2007  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: October 01, 2017, 11:11:27 PM

What hashrate are you guys getting on 1080ti 11GB?

My settings: GPU +180, MEM -500 Power 75%

I'm getting 665-675 Sol/s per card.

What settings are you using if you are getting better than this?



it should be over 730. I get that without any oc and the power @ 90%

Even my FE cards get 690 without any OC

 TDP limiting the hashrate - that extra 15% matters.

 There is also the question of what the actual TDP in WATTS is - it's possible that there are some GTX 1080ti cards that do NOT have a 250 watt TDP (my own sample size is too small for anything resembling certainty).
2008  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v12.6 (Windows/Linux) on: September 30, 2017, 08:23:14 PM

that is right. I started using nVidia cards as well.

The 1080Ti is good for ZCash. It is not good for ETH related mining.

 GTX 1080ti is a good card on a hash/watt basis for ETH, but it is not good on a hash/$ basis.

 Prior to the release of the Vega line, the 1080ti was the highest hashrate card you could mine ETH on with only a single GPU on it - and it's almost a match for the Vega64 on hashrate at MUCH lower power usage and similar cost.

 1080ti is definitely better off on ZEC ZEN and related coins though, among other options.

2009  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread on: September 30, 2017, 08:18:48 PM
Why doesn't the wallet AUTOMATICALLY stake instead of having to do that stupid "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up?
 It gets OLD having to "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up.

You can if you want to. http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Wallet_Auto-unlock_for_staking

 Thanks for posting the work-around.

 Still doesn't explain why a work-around is needed though.


 I'm also getting tired of the "every day or two" wallet reboots in the current version - though that was supposedly fixed MONTHS ago, more than a bit irritating that bug is BACK AGAIN.

2010  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: September 30, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
Limit of cards by brand is a drivers limit in Windows - as I recall neither supports more than 8 cards on a single Windows machine with their "stock" drivers, though I remember reading that there are ways to mod the drivers to support more.


 Where has EWBF stated they are no longer going to develop their miner, I've NOT seen that posted anywhere except in FUD rumors from folks OTHER THAN EWBF.

2011  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Zcash on: September 30, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
What is wrong with suprnova? I am mining ZEC and earnings dropped from 0.3 to 0.05 per day?

 I tried suprnova a couple of times on different algorithms - and was seriously UNDERwhelmed at their performance.
 Have never considered them since.

 ZEC has varied on profitability vs ETH all along - massively higher the first few days, then dropped quite a bit for a long time as the price collapsed and the miners didn't catch up on efficiency for a while, then the "good" Nvidia miners started showing up making it quite a bit better on most NVidia cards - but all along it hasn't been WAY far off most of the time on the most common cards when using the most current mining software due to the "profit chasing equalization" basket effect.

2012  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: September 30, 2017, 08:07:30 PM
You can mine alternative scrypt coins with less difficulty and bet to a price increase bigger than ltc.

I'm not being negative guys, just asking the questions to understand. Less difficult alt coins are even cheaper, i buy 1 LTC and exchange to those, will get heaps of each.

The problem is: to secure the coins against the exchange's CEO stealing everything, I will need to download the block chain of each alt coin. This has to be on a very fast SSD, minmum 1 TB for all the coins. I could safeguard each wallet.dat and delete the wallet, but that means I can't buy again more of that coin unless i reinstall and download the block chain.

Everything seems easier than mining 24/7.

 Why do you think you need a SSD for that?
 Current hard drives have write speeds that are FASTER than 100MB Ethernet can transfer the data.

2013  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: $800 Electric Bill . . + My Current GPU Mining Profitability on: September 30, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
Very cheap electricity bill, this is a good place for mining, you should setup more mining rig  Grin

 As I get the money to do so, I have been.


 I keep hoping the "flypool" folks will set up a zen pool to go with their ETH ETC and ZEC pools, but they haven't done so yet.

2014  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Good Network Switch? on: September 30, 2017, 07:59:45 PM
I used various TPLink switches past 5 years, never had issues, they work as they should.

 "past 5 years" counts as recently.

 A LOT of my Netgear switches are pushing 20 and still working.
 I still have a 3Com switch I bought USED almost 25 years ago that's still working well.

2015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Good Network Switch? on: September 30, 2017, 07:57:49 PM
Unifi is the best price/quality in the market.

 Who?

 Can't say I've ever heard OF them.

2016  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Ubuntu or Windows for mining altcoins ? on: September 30, 2017, 07:57:07 PM
In my experience, XP was MORE stable than 10 is - once it got enough service packs under the hood.

 Still wasn't anywhere close to 2000 stability, much less NT4 SP6 or NT 3.51 SP5.

 For that matter, *7* seems to have turned out eventually to be able to match or SLIGHTLY exceed XP stability - and 10 is nowhere NEAR 7's poor stability level.

 Then there was the combination of Windows for Workgroups 3.11 with QEMM 7.54 - which wasn't NT level stability but could argue with 2k and definitely beat 10.


 Still waiting on a "how long they have stayed up at a time" mention.

 Perfect uptime for a couple months at a time is NOTHING.


Remember, your concept/perception of an uptime's scale is probably not the concept of a new member whom is asking these types of questions as he did.  

Crap;  you have to babysit some antminer S7's... which their system is based on what OS again?  

It comes down to fallibility in the person configuring it and the hardware being used.  Before or during use.
Most miners need maintenance;  inspections, etc.  How many GPU rigs and asics do you have on for an extended period of time over this "many month" figure you speak of?  Does it matter?  Nope.  Its just data.

...longest time without a power failure or rebooting myself is a tad over 6 months in the last years time.  I live in the cuts;  outages are somewhat regular depending on season.  My old 7 machine (before moving out to here) was online for over 2 years before I moved from there to where I am now.  Gamed on it every day.  It was my media center, security DVR and NAS as well.  It still is.  And, It got upgraded to 10 and remains the same as much as it can.

if you think XP is stable;  then, props to you I guess.... It was buggy as shit; right up to the end...  I likened it to being a more colorful version of WinME that was capable of staying operational for longer than a day or two at a time without crashes.  I still don't know how they were able to milk it for soooo long.

As far as the OS is concerned when speaking of Microsoft (root system operation and especially the HAL); hands down 10 is light years above XP.  The list goes on...... But I digress...

This topic isn't about how long my pc remains powered on and functioning properly... Nor is it a place to discuss the lack or presence of the future/current support's decision on your choice  for any said OS's. (hardware and software speaking)   You can discuss it on another thread.  We are here to share our findings with the OP to give some insight on what route to choose because he asked us whats more stable,  and a other few questions as well; that showed he did not understand the OS's role in mining among other things.

Let that last sentence sink in.

 You have to babysit S7 miners due to the HARDWARE having low reliability and high error rates.
 That's NOT an OS issue.
 Same thing on the S9, but it appears to have even WORSE reliability at the hardware level given how many hashboards flat out DIE on them.
 Compare to the S5 that WAS a lot more stable and reliable because the HARDWARE had a much higher reliability factor and a lower hardware error rate per hash done.
 Ditto the Spondoolies SP20, or the Innosilicon A2, for other even better known "keeps working for a long time without issues" ASIC that happen to run a LINUX version on their controller.

 I didn't say I think XP is stable - I don't consider ANY Windows version to be stable.
 M$ didn't WANT to "milk XP" - they LOST money due to how long it lasted since UPGRADE sales were very low prior to 7 - but people stayed on XP because the alternatives were even WORSE prior to 7, and in many respects 7 was not as good (though it WAS better than "XP64" by a ton which is probably WHY 7 caught on where Vista failed miserably).

 Powered on and functioning properly IS at least part of the definition of "stable" for an OS.
 It's not the fault of the OS if the power goes out - but if the power is there it IS the job of the OS to function properly.

 And as YOU YOURSELF said in "that last sentence", "because he asked us what's more stable".

 Perhaps you should try reading your own words?
2017  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: {Rumor} 1070ti - Real? Thoughts? on: September 30, 2017, 07:32:17 PM
I'll BET it has 2304 CUDA cores or if it gets priced at $449 or $459 MSRP - otherwise it's gonna eat too many 1080 sales.
If it IS in fact priced around $400 (which is the SAME or nearly so as the 1070) it'll have to drop the core count down to 2048 to avoid eating 1070 sales.

 Card is about 2 months too late to be a good ETH mining card - RX series AMD have dropped back down too far on price - but it might be a very good ZEC miner for the price.


Where? Availability is definetly up, but so are the prices.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20601296377%20601296379&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36

 Given the pricing LAST MONTH on available "in stock" cards was almost always over $300 and often the LOWEST price card was near $350, having several cards available for under $300 is a definite improvement on pricing.

 You also left out the RX 470 and RX 480 from your list, which would have added a few MORE choices in the under $300 range, including the Sapphire "mining" RX 470 I bought yesterday at $259.

 Note that I said "dropped back down" not "dropped back to pre-shortage" on pricing.

 To compete with those $259 cards, a hypothetical $399 GTX 1070ti would have to manage at least mid-30s Mhash/sec on ETH even if the $259 AMD cards are NOT BIOS modded.
 Note that the 1080ti only manages mid-30s on ETH hashrate.
 To compete with those $259 AMD cards with their BIOS modded, a hypothetical GTC 1070ti would have to exceed 40 Mhash/sec by quite a bit on a $400 card and be close to 50 for a $449 card to compete.

 For algorithms other than that used by ETH, a hypothetical GTX 1070ti is likely to be a lot more competative - I can see it being a KILLER ZEC mining card for the price, even at $449.


2018  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: September 30, 2017, 04:12:07 AM
New to crypto mining and zcash. Can the users with more experience give me a sense of how my rig is doing performance wise?

https://imgur.com/a/lXujf
I have in average 440 Sol/s but 116W per each 1070 card.
What OC settings are you using?

From reading here today, my OC settings are probably a little unorthodox, but I'm at 68% Power, +105 Core and +599 RAM.

 68% power is a meaningless statement without the model of the card - the stock TDP on a 1070 can vary a LOT, many at 150 watts many at 180 at least one MSI 1070 model has a stock TDP over 200 watts (and 2 power connectors).

 +core is also meaningless for the same reason.

 +memory is USUALLY useful, most NVidia GDDR5 cards base clock the RAM at 8000 and most GDDR5X cards at 10000, but even THERE exceptions exist.


 To jpl - which Antminers are you talking about getting high reviews? There is no such thing as an Antminer that will mine ZEC or offshoot coins (at least yet).

2019  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: September 30, 2017, 04:06:28 AM

I rather have stable environment with lower hash vs higher hash but needs babysitting all the time (this formula applies to GPU farms too).
Asics need to be install and forget as much as possible.

 I actually had one of my A2 units go offline last night - first time in months, and only the second time it's happened on all *5* units combined that didn't involve a power outage or me shutting them down to move them.

 They were all used from Zoomhash (no clue how long Zoomhash had been mining with them before I bought them) bought almost 2 years back.

 Dunno why it went down, it came right back up when I power-cycled it.

2020  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Zcash on: September 30, 2017, 04:00:24 AM
I"ve switched my 2 gtx1060*9 rigs from ETH to zcash, I use miningpoolhub to auto exchange zcash to bitcoin.

I recommend using Flypool and sending to Bittrex to auto-sell. You'll likely make more than on MiningPoolHub.

 How do you do autosale on Bittrex?

 I've never seen that option there, just on Coinbase.

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