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2001  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [TO THEYMOS AND MODS] BFL scammer tag? on: May 17, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
They should at least label them as 'Untrustworthy'.

They should probably just label them as BFL.
2002  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PSA: Bitcoin's survival and long term prospects depend on MtGox getting killed. on: May 17, 2013, 08:55:48 AM
As much as I dislike this freakish boygirl's temperament, I have to give credit that this he-she has accurately predicted a lot of things. Coinlab comes to mind. If you can get past the hairy scrotum hiding under the mini skirt, shim actually has a lot of insights.

You and Mistery Miner with this interwebs gender weirdfunk. Are you aware a dozen or so BTC people met me IRL? There's pix published and so on and so forth?
2003  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [REPOST FOR NEWBS] - I of Mems list Encourage boycotting SatoshiDice [RACISM] on: May 17, 2013, 08:54:29 AM
If it's not a waste of time to attempt to be decent to people what's the problem?

The problem is that you're pretending like you have a clue what "decent" and "people" mean. You don't.
2004  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitbet.us scammers ignore delivered BFL products on: May 16, 2013, 05:38:40 PM
It is hashes per item delivered AND power consumption per item delivered. Exactly as advertised.
Please link to the advertisement as well as state these numbers here + on the bet. There are several advertisements out there that are at least partly conflicting which leads to confusion as you can clearly see. Time to clear this up.



4.5 GH / 4.5 W
60 GH / 60 W
1.5 TH / 1.5 kW.
2005  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitbet.us scammers ignore delivered BFL products on: May 16, 2013, 05:11:39 PM
1) will deliver ASIC Bitcoin mining devices to their customers

To all of their customers?  To at least one of their customers?

To a significant fraction thereof. This means that one person claiming to have received his units is not enough to fraudulently settle the bet (such as the Luke-jr fraud has done with the betsofbitco.in scam "bet"). This also means that one person claiming to have not received his units is not enough to fraudulently settle the bet the other way.

Ideally this could be further clarified. Practically, it cannot be further clarified. This is the unfortunate limitation of Bitcoin per se (more of the same here). We will have (absolutely all of us, whether we want to or not, whether we think it's fair or not, whether anything else) to learn to live with it.

2) Devices must be in scope

All of them. This should not logically be a problem, seeing how the devices are presumed to be mass produced rather than carved by hand somewhere. I agree that for the time it took so far they might as well been hand carved, but this unfortunately is simply not a possibility that was considered or even reasonable at the time the bet was made. Consequently, it's baked in.

3) of at least +-10%

"at least plus or minus 10%"?  What does that mean?  If the advertised performance was 100 (whatevers), then it has to be "at least 90 or 110"?  Isn't that the same as just "at least 90"?

This was already explained multiple other places, but:

A. It is there because this is the retarded manner in which BFL (the producer itself!) phrased their own offering. In the choice between A.1. "phrase the bet differently from the producer, and be accused of loading the bet" and A.2. "phrase the bet exactly the same as the producer, and then face the hordes holding you to higher standards than the producer seeing how everyone knows BFL is a scam and everyone knows MP upholds his obligations to the word and letter" A.2. prevailed. This is because MP personally and his venture in this case are shining beacons of ideal perfection, as compared to everything else in Bitcoin, such as for instance (in this case) BFL.

B. It is interpreted in favor of BFL, which is to say that hash of no less than 90% and power consumption of no more than 110% of the spec. It won't decide against delivery if the hashing delivered is MORE than promised, or if the power usage is LESS than promised. It will decide against delivery if either hashing delivered is more than 10% under advertised values, or if power consumption is more than 10% over advertised values. The "or"s in the foregoing are plain (as opposed to exclusive), and I am getting slightly worried at noticing I feel compelled to specify that.

4) of advertised

Advertised where?  And when?  Got a link?  Or a copy/paste?  I've no idea where to find it

Kindly see post #10 in this thread.

5) performance

Is that hashes per second or hashes per Joule?

It is hashes per item delivered AND power consumption per item delivered. Exactly as advertised.

To remind everyone: This bet followed the statements that BFL itself made, back when it was lying to all of you. You don't like the lies you've swallowed, talk to the cook.
2006  Other / Off-topic / Re: Class Action Lawsuit vs BFL? on: May 16, 2013, 05:03:02 PM
I have an impending feeling that someone is going to file a lawsuit against BFL.  Then as the news spread, other's will join and it'll turn into one of the largest CAL in Bitcoin history.  I'm a closet BFL "customer, investor, financier" or whatever you want to call it.  If a suit ever came into light, I'll have to admit that there's a good chance I'll put a check mark next to my name and join the band wagon.  BFL is pretty much at the choking point of it's enterprise/operation.  With other ASIC manufactures readily available and some already in the process of shipping or already have shipped, BFL is still behind the start line.  Sure, they shipped out a few Jalapenos, however most... if not all... of them are really going to developers and news outlets etc. They can claim to have "shipped" but the fact of the matter is, they haven't because the "real" customers are the ones reading this.

It's nearly been a year now and BFL hasn't even started on the Singles platform (in a nutshell), I just can't imagine the frustration all those customers must be faced with.  As I said, it's only a matter of time when someone(s) finally decide enough is enough and takes matter into their own hand(s).  When that time comes, you can count me in.

Oh, you got a feeling do you. Well...that has to be worth something. It is a feeling after all.
2007  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [REPOST FOR NEWBS] - I of Mems list Encourage boycotting SatoshiDice [RACISM] on: May 16, 2013, 02:47:46 PM
Did you know it's possible to be born with PTSD? 

Can they be born with Global Warming too?
2008  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PSA: Bitcoin's survival and long term prospects depend on MtGox getting killed. on: May 16, 2013, 10:32:39 AM
you are all spoiled and unthankful

gox has done for us and bitcoin more than any of us posting here

Fuck you. Go learn who you're talking to first, open your mouth second or not at all.

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he is doing something, what are you all whiners doing to help or improve ?

I'm telling you to fuck off and go educate yourself.
2009  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PSA: Bitcoin's survival and long term prospects depend on MtGox getting killed. on: May 16, 2013, 07:19:41 AM
we need a really professional exchange , maybe bitcoin foundation should create one that complies with fincen and other legulators.

No, that would be centralizing things too much.

Somebody should start a really professional exchange, why not you?

I rike the legulation palt.
2010  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PSA: Bitcoin's survival and long term prospects depend on MtGox getting killed. on: May 15, 2013, 06:05:17 PM
As per usual people who don't listen cry. Learn it already.
2011  Other / Off-topic / Re: Some Modest Proposals on: May 15, 2013, 04:50:46 PM
I am a 3.5th Bitcoin Supernode, and I don't have a sauna but only a shower with hot water.
I also have a paper wallet very well hidden in said bathroom in a drawer that my kids are absolutly forbidden to open.
I even put a "forbidden" sign on the drawer.
I am absolutly sure my kids had access to the drawer at least 3 times during the last week-end and you know that my wife told to them ? Nothing !!!!

But don't worry, I will move my coins as soon as I understand how to import the private keys in the bitcoin client which should not take more than 12 days (I am a supernode after all).

Am I allowed to participate ?

Shower pics required to deliberate. Make sure you take very absolute proximization precautions.
2012  Economy / Gambling / Re: [BitBet] Rejected Asicminer bet on: May 15, 2013, 04:49:43 PM
largest mining operation in the world

You mean this?
2013  Economy / Gambling / Re: [BitBet] Rejected Asicminer bet on: May 15, 2013, 04:06:52 PM
yes, contact friedcat and ask exactly what hashes he is responsible for, if he is impartial in the bet.

Pseudonymous Bitcoin, remember?

i do not see the point you are trying to make

She's saying that you couldn't prove Friedcat is Friedcat.

No, I am saying that the biggest problem of Bitcoin is still unresolved (and the 100+ BTC in bounties still unawarded or even vaguely claimed). In other words, you could never know if Friedcat is betting or not, and so the "if impartial" rider sinks the whole proposal.
2014  Economy / Reputation / Re: Reputation and Trust thread – tclo on: May 15, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
Why not just get into the WoT? Seriously now....
2015  Economy / Services / Re: Girlfriend and I produce custom NSFW pic sets tailored to your requests *pics* on: May 15, 2013, 01:43:45 PM
Can I get a bu bu bumppp

You can.
2016  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinabul is gone? on: May 15, 2013, 01:43:16 PM
Something weird is going on. It's not like the website is just down. It is simply gone.
I was just on there earlier today.

Does it have something to do with the dwolla/mtgox fiasco?

What exactly are you talking about? Website loads fine?
2017  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: May 15, 2013, 01:42:43 PM
8. Apr. -- 12.500,00 €
9. Apr. -- 5.880,00 €
9. Apr. -- 7.850,00 €


nothing yet.

Ouch.

all  exchanges  s.....x

mtgox   withdrawal cancelled after 28 days, 10.000 EUR  
bitcoin24   locked account with 10.000 EUR, more than 1 month
bitstamp     i opened a new $ bank account,   bitstamp converted my withdrawal to EUR, so my bank will convert it back to  USD, fantastic


f..ck u all

Learn to WoT, go OTC.
2018  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BitBillions GBBG on: May 15, 2013, 01:41:03 PM
You are hereby invited to our SuperDiode event which will be held in a burnt rate. Please confirm your notarized power of nurse and such requisite necessaries. Waiting to see you there!
2019  Economy / Gambling / Re: [BitBet] Rejected Asicminer bet on: May 15, 2013, 01:40:01 PM
yes, contact friedcat and ask exactly what hashes he is responsible for, if he is impartial in the bet.

Pseudonymous Bitcoin, remember?
2020  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [REPOST FOR NEWBS] - I of Mems list Encourage boycotting SatoshiDice [RACISM] on: May 15, 2013, 01:39:22 PM
What I am preoccupied with is the fact that you seem to be arguing that it is a waste of time to make an attempt at treating people decently.

That is not a fact, that is a strawman. Go argue with it privately.

As to Moe, is there a way to restate that if you change his physical defect to something he was born with?

Who exactly was born muscular? I mean I get it, you were born stupid and lazy. So was everyone. You have decided these are things you wish to cultivate in yourself. Guess what? Not everyone has.

I think that according to the most recent bleedin' edgy research in the field of Internet telepathy your problem is something deep down and the cure is hugs. Or something like that anyway.

Ah, I see. You're paid by the post. I'll leave you to your bleedin' edgy public relatin'.

Nope, I make fixed rate. Want a hug nao?
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