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2001  Economy / Speculation / Re: If Russia goes full Bitcoin adoption on: June 25, 2022, 11:59:32 PM
Nope this will not happen for now because first bitcoin is new to them and for sure they will doubt to trust 100% the system because they could lose more because of its volatility. But maybe they will strengthen their own currency because this is their economic symbol but if they shift something valuable for them at the moment I think they will grab gold since this is much safer option for them.
2002  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: INDOEX.IO Exchange is SCAM money lost on: June 25, 2022, 10:03:35 PM
WARNING do not use INDOEX.IO it’s a scam

Wanted to move my funds out of there. Made a withdrawal 18-6 but never received it.

Contacted their support but I haven’t received a reply. Phone number listed doesn’t work. They won’t reply on their what’s app chat. Their Facebook posts doesn’t have a single like or respond. No answer on my Telegram chat as well.

Looks like my 0,5688 BTC withdrawal is gone… They are just thief’s. Wonder how these criminals can be stopped. Any ideas? Looks like they are located in Estonia and London.

That's expensive mistake for believing on unknown exchange, next time OP better to grab the big ones because there are so many scam exchanges which try to get your attention and scam you the same like this at the end of the day. Next time always look after on top tier exchangers like binance,ftx or even okex since this are kinda reliable exchangers which newbie can trust. Thanks for the warning about this exchange also better try to move on since I think you cannot retrieve your money anymore in that exchange.
2003  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Taking Loans - Is it ideal? on: June 25, 2022, 11:59:46 AM
For me, taking a loan is tantamount to the fact that I completely lose peace of mind during the period of my debt. And even more so, we are talking about buying bitcoins, which do not have their own stable price. What to say about a person who can decently lose his psychological health? This is that with every step, he will make even more mistakes... For such loans, you need to have a stable income, which, in spite of everything, will be able to replenish the monthly interest, as well as strong nerves. But in my country, unfortunately, and indeed in the whole world, there has been no stability for a long time.
Therefore, it is better to sleep well than to twitch at every bad financial news.

You might get worried on 3 things first is if you can able to pay what you borrow, second is can I get a roi/profit on that lended amount and 3rd one for sure you get worried about volatility since if the price of borrowed altcoin or bitcoin pump up for sure we will pay more higher price and that is so stressful action to do that's why borrowing is not a good option to do in any case upon buying crypto.
2004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you trust a gambler with your money/savings? on: June 25, 2022, 10:42:21 AM
Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?

He cannot even settle his finances and how much more the other people's money? for sure his gambling activities will lead up for a relationship or partnership to be broken because since he is a gambler he  might use the money to spend on his gambling activities.

- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?

Everyone deserve a second chance but make sure that he is so damn serious about forgetting about his gambling life, If he show positive response towards what people advice him towards his gambling activities and you see that he slowly getting up from messy situation then maybe its good to try again to trust him with financial things.
2005  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Taking Loans - Is it ideal? on: June 24, 2022, 10:26:31 PM
Taking loans will be ideal if you have stable source of income and can able to full repay your debt if something bad to your investment. But if you just ride the hype  and take loan since you want to risk without having an assurance that you can pay and just think about you can profit then pay your debt later then this is totally BS after all because in times of disaster for sure this could give us a huge problem.
2006  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market? on: June 24, 2022, 01:24:26 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Real traders have always good strategies to combat whatever the condition of the market. So regardless if its bullish or bearish, they will always make profits in the market. But i believe this bearish market makes it hard time for them to gain high profits, but still they can make it because they already anticipate every market reaction as they have been long experiences in trading that they become experts as well. However, the very basic strategy of buying low and selling high is always what they mostly consider.

But not all can handle the pressure because sometimes many caught because there expectation didn't hit up and they encounter more dumps. I saw so many live streamer trader lose their money so we can say that even if how good a trader is for sure there are times that they will do a mistake speculating on what will be the outcome of the market then lose all their capital for that mistake.
2007  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: June 24, 2022, 10:28:16 AM
Rollbot NFT converges lot of things: product concept, product, a big backer behind is Rollbit and really good utility.
This is why both of the sales were successful by the Rollbit even at high prices thinking from small gamblers way as the casino utility is really good source for them to enjoy.Like getting RLB tokens and and free bets even though not much from sports rollbots.So i would say lot better then many NFT's Just selling out images which have no use case.

Other NFT is just for flipping and to unlucky for people who bought last at more expensive price because they don't have any chances to regain because most provably they will struggle to sell what they bought at high price rate. In the case of Rollbit its good to see that they have proper utility with their NFT's because their holders can enjoy some benefits offered to them and they can resell it to other users who want to have the creations made by Rollbit itself.
2008  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Legal Tender in Panama on: June 23, 2022, 11:52:28 PM
After el savador successfully accepted bitcoin, now other latin american countries, namely panama, of course this is an idea that has gone through a long process, and i'm sure that panama will continue to develop into an influential economic power after legalizing bitcoin.
i want to understand this thing fully, this panama does it mean that they have legalized cryptocurrency as a tender or they are still with the process of legalizing cryptocurrency as a legal tender. Because i know very well that bitcoin is not generally accepted to every nation, some countries is still scrutinizing if the adoption will be world recognized or not before they will follow another way of making it a legal currency. Bitcoin is a currency so many countries government hate, but I'm surprised after campaigning wrong about bitcoin Salvador still accept it

There are still debates about bitcoin used for fraudulent activities and also the volatility is so much questionable because we experience a heavy ones which exist at the moment maybe this is one of the reason why we see a hard time for cryptocurrency to became a legal tender on 1st world countries. But since Panama is already almost into it now maybe lets just see the result because if this could give positive effect to them maybe this is one of the ladder for other 1st world country to also do it.
2009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: June 23, 2022, 01:57:51 PM
I'm not so sure about that. As I'm trying to point out earlier, the Clippers have already formed a decent team with those three players and they are only missing the return of their two stars. Kahwi will most likely return next season in better shape because he's taken his time to recover. He'll probably prefer to play under a team with established chemistry. I remember he said something about chemistry as one reason when they lost in his first season as a Clipper.
Could be, as long as Kawhi and Paul George are healthy, they can trade. Jackson and Mann can stay. Zubac though looks very soft as a center for Clippers.

So let's see if they are willing for that kind of trade just to get Kyrie. It will be a gamble for them as Kyrie seems to bring some issues with him as he go with other teams. Clippers have a lot of thinking before they can pull that trade and I don't think that they can free some tax as well if ever they acquire Irving.

Kyrie seems to be a big attraction for them but I don't know if it is going to be worth it for them to do everything that they are prepared to do to get this player. I also agree that it is going to be a gamble. And if there is a case of injury it is not going to work out very well for them too.


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Duke

Even if Kyrie is the most talented player exist in this era still its a huge gamble for them to get this player unto their team because many know how toxic he is and that could affect their organization if they encounter the same issue again with him. Maybe its best for them to select different potential stars which is a team player because could give them more good result.
2010  Other / Archival / Re: Are you ready to see Bitcoin at $10 000? on: June 23, 2022, 12:05:05 PM
Kalou I wouldn't be prepared to see the price of bitcoin fall too far like that.
$10k is a terrible bitcoin price for me.
There will be many investors who feel they have lost their money if the price of bitcoin drops to the point of $ 10 thousand and of course they will be torn apart again.
Hopefully the worst thing will never happen.

It would only be terrible for people that have been over-invested and have no capital for buying dips. On the other hand, if you're always making sure you have enough capital to deploy, a crash to $10,000 would be a godsend if you're long-term bullish on bitcoin.

If they feel something bad to happen on the market they still have good options to take and one of them is taking stop lose to control heavy damage and then wait for it to come or possibly near to it then buy since for sure this will give more better chances for recovery rather than waiting for their last crypto bought to pump back again to recover their losses.
2011  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Top Cryptocurrency Scams To Be Avoided By Beginners on: June 23, 2022, 10:35:13 AM
We could go as far as to generalize that actually the top cryptocurrency scams to be avoided by beginners are altcoins themselves and all the altcoin hypes such as ICO, airdrop, DeFi, NFT, and others, could we?

Of course, this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but given the history of these and since we are talking about beginners, isn't it just right that they should also avoid getting into altcoins and the rest that are mentioned?

Altcoin are much abused method on scamming so for sure many lesson can be learn if newbies just search some information about this because for sure there are more information will pop up everywhere about this discussions. Also maybe the first thing they need to do if they really want to learn about altcoin is to join only on airdrop and don't spend any dime on it because for sure there are lot of learnings by continuously following the altcoins trend.
2012  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST.io🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶PLAY 📈INVEST➡🔺🎲🎰🔲 | BET CONTEST ▄■▀■▄ on: June 22, 2022, 10:18:33 PM
A few months almost a year ago light lord encountered an illness which is the reason why he was not active in this forum and then after that, The war has come, and  If the war-affected Lightlord too much then let's wait until the war will over and for sure light lord will come back. The casino is still okay but the main problem here is that this announcement thread which is the OP or the owner of the casino did not update or posted here. Let's wait untill for him until the casino still okay.

Their casino is fine and running but the problem here is lightlord's inactivity and many players are seeking on his presence to clarify all the question popping up on this thread because there are people doubting to see the inactivity of the owner on this casino. I think the only reason why this things happen is due to financially maybe this is not earning good as before that's why maybe lightlord starting to lose his interest on this business and slowly distancing his self on this one.
2013  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Top Cryptocurrency Scams To Be Avoided By Beginners on: June 22, 2022, 02:11:20 PM
It's funny how you advice other users to not invest on shitcoins while you're promoting the shitcoins it self under your signature Tongue

When you're using the signature or joining a social medias bounties, you're promoting the shitcoins and this make any people including beginners to aware of this shitcoin, moreover they might invest it. You're not different with those shitcoins project team, you're helping them to scam many people. There's no such DEX will run on centralized chain e.g. BNB.
 
ii. Altcoin
Developers of such coins manipulate the coin's market price and make appealing offers to entice individuals to join their society. Early hodlers (developers) will be able to boost the coin's price by pumping it and then dumping it once they've made their money. Be wary of all these shitcoins; the majority of them are fake. Most of them are centralized and have no smart contracts.


That's what I see also and for posting this it seems that he really doesn't mean what he post because he still promoting what possibly put newbies in danger because he promote something risky to go with. But since he's into that we should assure that we will never get hype and also secure what profit we got already and don't think for more since most of shit tokens dumps then hard to recover when pumping times of it comes already.
2014  Economy / Speculation / Re: Was 17600$ was the bottom ? on: June 22, 2022, 12:29:28 PM
Yesterday the bitcoin price dumped to 17,600$. A lot of people are saying that the bottom would be 12,000$ or 15,000$. Some even think that 6000$ is on the cards. However, we have seen some recovery in the price and it is now above 19500$.

Maybe 17600$ was the bottom or do you think there is more dump in the coming days/weeks?
Some of the members have already speculated $17,600, that's the bottom or there's another time we never imagined.

I understand Bitcoin once in four years there is a change in terms of price, before the next ATH occurs, my understanding and my belief is that this is not the end of the bear market, there is still a continuation, I don't know how much we'll see.

But we don't know that there prediction is exact to what's going to happen on the market because even if we are quietly have some little pull ups still it will never give any guarantee that the $17,600 is the last dip we can see. Maybe there will be more as the target of other speculators is at more bottom of $17k or more.
2015  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Bitcoin Disappointed You ? on: June 22, 2022, 10:56:07 AM
Only newbies will get disappointed on what's currently happening on bitcoin because they are expecting to much where they think they can be rich by holding it for long time period and they get surprised about the bear market scenario that's why many got panic then tell that bitcoin might turn to zero.

But for knowledgeable crypto people for sure this bear market season is one of their favorite season because this give them chances to buy more cheap crypto's and newbie should understand this because for sure they can use this events to gain huge profits once market recovers.
2016  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: June 21, 2022, 11:48:40 PM
Many of us were waiting for this amazing contest with so many great prizes.

For those who don't know, you shouldn't necessarily be an artist yourself. No skills in this department? No problem. Just ask your friends or family members  to create a decent piece of art for you, and then submit it. That's what I'm planning to do, anyway. It was allowed before, and I hope the rules haven't changed.
Was just talking about it and it landed on the forum with surprise for all who were waiting for the art contest and the same cool prizes are waiting for the winners and excited to see some new entries this time.

You can submit any artwork from your family members also and can mention the same in your post for clarification as some have done it in the past and who knows if you are not artist they are Wink
Oh so the work of a friend or family member can also be entered in this contest, to be honest I just found out now because I have an art artist friend who I think is good, maybe if this is allowed I will talk to him if he wants to do a contest This is of course a very attractive prize, at least this can help him to get financial if he wins.
And I just thought that the Art contest in this forum must be my own work, so I have no other reason because I am not an expert in Art myself.

I don't know if this rule is good because anyone can commission an art then submit it here so its unfair to the real artist who work with his craft to make things done according to this contest. But its part of their rules and actually its hard to spot if the submissions belong to the real artist since anyone can claim that he create that art. Anyways still good to see some good arts keep posted and I enjoy browsing to see new submissions.
2017  Economy / Speculation / Re: $13,000 is quite possible this week on: June 21, 2022, 10:00:04 PM
I guess the dump is finally over, bitcoin is already over $20k now, and it is consistently recovering.

Bitcoin reached $21k already today, and this is a good sign that bitcoin will not dump below $20k anymore.
The opportunity was there, if we fail to accumulate, we might miss the opportunity to make a short-term profit.

In order for bitcoin to convince people that it's back bullish, it should break $30k soon because that's a big milestone for a new success after a hard dump.
I wouldn't say it is "over" but at the end of the day we would never know. Has it recovered? Yes it has recovered a bit and the price is higher right now, and that is a great thing but it has "recovered", doesn't mean that it can't get lower again as well which is the biggest problem.

This means that we are going to be living in a situation where it is unknown until it happens, so the price could stay above 20k and go to 30k slowly and then even higher, or it could suddenly crash again and drop to a new low level, which is a big problem. I am really not sure what is going to happen but just like the typical of me, I will just hold and do nothing else.

Global economy still struggling due to crisis happen so for sure there's still a chance that bitcoin would dump for more and its projected to go at $12k -$13k so we need to be careful on our decision making on this because we might fall on the trap if we think that recovery already happen. So best for now for people who want to earn is to execute short trades and never hold because for this we can minimize our possible losses if market starting to drop again.
2018  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: More than 5 WBTC (BTC) was stolen from my Metamask wallet!!! on: June 21, 2022, 02:40:22 PM
Im very sorry for you loss  Shocked the worst part is that now the hackers have 100k USD more to fund their hacking operation and they will for shure advance more with their stealing. So everyone be careful and never store more than you need in that exact moment on a hot wallet!

This is a lesson that everyone have learnt now.
Always we should use hardware wallet to store such a large amount of Cryptos.
Really feeling sad for the OP, but nothing can be done. I can understand that the amount was big and might be hard earned, but still we are hopeless.
The hacker might be also very smart, so after taking money from the OP’s wallet, he might used a mixer service to mix the coins and hence his address cannot be traced.
Wishing that this should not happen with anyone in the near future.

For huge balance like this its better to use hardware wallets because this is more safer than any web wallets or apps around. And this is expensive mistake which many people learned off so for the incident happened to OP most provably many people are much careful upon using metamask and also we need to avoid downloading unknown things since this is also one of the method used by hackers to stole the balances on the wallet of their victims.
2019  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is the crash in bitcoin price a threat to forum existence? on: June 21, 2022, 01:12:05 PM
This forum didn't collapsed before even if the price of bitcoin is so low so I can't imagine on why would that incident will happen? This forum still earns huge traffic everyday so if many people still using this we can't see this forum go out of nowhere.

Also for sure we can see this forum exist for more years even if the market do some crashed and pumped schemes.
2020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does bitcoin dump have any impact on gamblers ? on: June 20, 2022, 11:46:01 PM
I think gambling platforms don't have a big impact on bitcoin price movements because we can see that the volume of gambling is not too much and it's not always people can get wins in gambling places and very high transaction fees to send to very high gambling wallets prefer not to using bitcoin but using available altcoins like TRX or others.

Well if they don't hold any huge volume of crypto prepared for to their hot wallets for their gambler to easily withdraw when they want to execute it well maybe they can't feel that, but if they have for sure they can feel how big the impact it is imagine the huge volume taken out compare to the value they put before it happen for sure this take a lot of money out from the dump happen. But for sure casinos always knows about the possible risk that's why we see them standing even if the bear market crashes some crypto prices recently.
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