Yeah switchers are always chasing and behind  the hot coin.  Plus a shit ton of other people do the same switching.

I mine 1 or 2 coins  zec and a shit coins at the moment and my 16x 1080tis are between 2.25 and 3.25 a card before power cost.

  This method favors smaller gear but allows bigger gear.


Forks are exclusionary in principle

but we don't need every coin to do my way just some.

Remember every good fork  making a good solid money making coin = an algo for asic builders to crack then  mine on the sneak  then sell tons of asics and gut the coin.

So even great fork action is not enough.

But I certainly would buy an os  that lets me mine  a six card gpu rig at a profit.
With real protection against asics and forks as a backup method.


I think ip  is not needed maybe just an id for the os a unique number for each os.

ethos has that.

what do you think level the playing field means?  It means making financial handicaps  against asic and fpga  to encourage a broadbase of mining.

If you looked at my math  you would see  that  asics would not be fully pushed down to gpu levels  and that asics would still  be somewhat better.


Take the z9  300 watts 10000 sols cost 2.5k for the June one  33 sols a watt

take a 2.5k 1080ti rig  about 2000 sols at 500 watts  or 4 sols a watt

So the z9 is  8x better  my numbers  would make the diff for the asic 2x or 3x  which means the asic is better  but not that much better.

Actually   the diff increase could slide  but the idea is to keep mining diverse.

Since the al-gore-rythm would allow an asic you don't worry about getting forked into a brick  the price you pay to not brick  is less efficiency.

I am looking create a handicap concept.

I used to bowl  a lot  we had handicap rules  that made  a team of say 4 guys that bowled 200 each spot points  to a team of 4 guys that bowled  150 each.

so 800 vs 600  the low bowlers would be crushed.  the league I was in used 80% handicap  so the 200  better was  x 80%   or 160 point  added to the lessor bowlers    so the better bowlers did get some of the benefit of being better.

in my idea asics get some of the benefit of being better
asics also don't get bricked by forks
but gpus even cpus  still can mine somewhat.

Look for me I have an unbeatable power deal up to 20k-watts  I will always earn money  unless the gear breaks.

But to want to kill off millions of small gpu miners is moron stupid.

and to say the  gpu guy or cpu guy should buy an asic is not reasonable as many can not access them.

There simply has to be a way of creating a flatter system.


But why?

Here is why ?   the bowling alleys will not be filled with leagues  without handicapped concepts for play.   There are only so many 200 average  bowlers.

Same for mining  there are only so many of us that can swing a power deal  with no worries about sound or equipment delivery.

My idea  does not need to be for all coins.  Just some.
There are no handicap bowling leagues  with all bowlers averaging 200 plus.

You could have unrestricted coins btc ltc whatever.




tie the  ip may not be needed.

a blankCoinOs that mines blank coin

give it an identifier.

give it levels

level1             0 -     4000 sols
level2       4000 -    10000 sols
level3     10000 -    50000 sols
level4     50000 -  250000 sols
level5    250000 - 1000000 sols


you only need 10 coins and algos  like this   it would kind of keep gpus only on them  but it would keep gpus.
level6  1000000 sols and up

Well  lets say  a guy has  a z9 it does  10000 sols and pays a slight penalty since it is in the small miner since. 

 So he figures a way to drop to 3x 3333 miners  he still needs 3 ips and 3 mining permits/os

So even though  he gets his 300 watts and 10000 sols he pays more.

the  mining/os fees  can all be rolled into  bonus "uncle" blocks .

I am not looking to kill off  asics or fpga's  I am looking to lower  the financial incentive to pick them over gpus.


Look you built moonlanders  with 1 chip.

So zecSticks with 1 chip  become desirable in my example as they  stay under that  sol cap.   

20% drop in hashrate means 20% longer to hit a block.

But in theory  the shares needed are still the same.


So with the coins it should be 50% heads and tails which is the luck.

But five coins flipping will find a heads faster then four..

So you got the idea.

Now quality of the gear hashing and whether it is really true to its luck rate very hard to know if it is good without endless testing of it with many pieces of gear. Same with a pool is the software good? Etc.

Not saying we should  but  how to do it.


Yeah fork fork fork fork = pita

How about  ideas and proposals ?

My newest idea is sell an OS  with a license tied to your ip.

So lets say my ip is

01.234.567.89

I buy an os  that allows me to mine  zec  and or other alogs      Something like ethos  does.   It is unique has its own number  say 123456789

So they are paired     01.234.567.89   with  123456789

And if I am doing  zec

under         4000  sols =  hobby     miner so diff is      x
4000   to   10000 sols = small     miner  so diff is   1.5x
10000 to   50000 sols = medium miner  so diff is   3.0x
50000 to 250000 sols = large      miner so diff  is   9.0x
over       250,000 sols = unlimited miner so diff is 20.0x


It  makes the attraction to  asic's less  since they have a higher difficulty.
No forks

gpus stay in the game

hobby mining is not lost.


Feel free to poke a hole at it but  it seems like it could work.

Any insult to anyone I will delete.

So  to asic only  or gpu only  people  please  be polite.  As for FPGA  proponents also be polite.

many people have been convicted in courts of law with only circumstantial evidence

also civil lawsuits  in the USA are based on preponderance of evidence  that means a greater chance of true then false.  Say 50.1%  true chance and 49.9% false chance is enough.

Here is the deal  multiple asic builders mined on the sneak across multiple gpu al- gore- rythms  this happened in 2017 and 2018.

Is it wrong no?

Is it good for cyptocoins maybe maybe not.

My gripe with asic builders = shit service and shit warranties when compared to gpu's

My power is cheap so cheap I can't lose out unless the gear breaks and is not replaced.   Avalon now has 2 year warranty  so I have avalon 841's

Can  asics be stopped? 

For some gpus  coins yes  they can.

3 tier difficulty  with a licensed software  works.


the software  allows mining  for any coin.

you have to buy it and it has a license to  1 ip 

past  4,000 sols  you move from hobby  and diff jumps

between 4,000 and 10,000 sols   small  and diff jumps

between 10,000  to 50,000 sols medium and diff jumps

over 50,000 to 200,000   large and diff jumps

over 200,000  unlimited and diff jumps


so this allows  any and all  gear  and since it is locked to 1 ip address  it makes the incentive to mine with asics  smaller  then it is now.


works for any coin.

Does flipping 5 coins vs 4 coins matter in terms of heads vs tails % no.   

on my five  4 have zero issues

1 has a flaky board  needs the late april firmware and medium speed to do all 3 boards.

Other thoughts the psu can't really do fast speed.  So all of mine are at slow or medium speed

The higher end ballsy psu's that allow top speed are these 2


https://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Efficiency-2450-Watt-Power-Supply-Server-PSU-with-Ready-to-Use-Wiring-XC/183044498011?

I had to cut plug and replace it

and this one

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DPS-2400AB-200V-240V-SWITCHING-POWER-SUPLLY-1-set-of-Cables-1-Board/332593405016?


I consider the delta DPS-2400AB psu  the best there is in the 2000 to 3000 watt class

I wish I had more of them

no big deal.  unless  it is a 0.05 watt miner  doing  1200 watts and 24th for only 1500 usd.  With the ability to sell  10s of thousands of them.

that would be a big deal.

More like 18 or 17

roll back the firmware.

the list of atx company that had failed psus

rosewill
seasonic
antec
evga
fractal

notice the major company I left off.  I won't write the name as I do not want to jinx myself.

Atx psu's do break with 24/7 use

one company or 10 companies building asics does not matter.

Simple fact is the builders can just keep building and selling their gear and simply glut the market.

This is happening as I type.  This drives price of coins down.
Think of mining as bank interest 50 cents a day profit on a 500 dollar cd is good.

do you mean this?

"Lucky rewards - since shares are weighted by the difficulty of the share found, if you are a small miner that has a handful of lucky high diff shares, you can earn significantly more, capped at current network difficulty.
Block finder rewards - as per lucky rewards, a large share weight is attached to block finds (but is applied to the next block reward since user rewards are included in the existing unsolved block reward.) The sooner the next block is found, the higher the block finder reward is."


from home page
http://ckpool.org/

If there was a perfect boycott by all of us.  The asic builders would simply build and mine for them selves.

Won’t be more then one year for all current algos to be cracked.

Of course anyone in favor of asics or FPGA over gpus is a complete and true idiot or and here is the big or someone with very good connections to asics or fpga gear.

Hey if I had the z9 in December I would be pro asic .

I had a b52 sent to me to review it was making good money for 25 days not anymore.
This can be done to any coin right now asics are building out and it kills coin pricing.

Because the asic builders are cashing out the coin. From the sale and from, mining before they sold

If bitmain was holding all the coin sent to them the last four months the price of coin would be higher.

Yeah he may have.

 I am running 4.51gh at it now.

It would help me  to hit one.

Send me a pm.  I am in Howell NJ   07731

I can bring tons  of good junk.

I did a lot of escrow for people.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=64507

just some of the escrow I used to do.

I am looking to do spring cleaning.

Well 180 at .93 eff is really 7% higher that is about 13 watts

And maybe you have a gold not a platinum

It is easy to tell the power cord socket blue in color is platinum

The power cord socket black in color is gold


Gold is 88%. So 12% of 180 is 21.6 watts

I also don’t know what the nvidia software counts when it reads 180 watts.

But if I use smos to run a pc and set a card to 180 watts a two card rig is 400 not 360.

In your case you would be 440 that does seem a bit high.

fan draws watts.

and how much is hooked up.

i.e. 2 cables to the 1080 and one cable to the riser.

btw the fans are the on the psu and on the gpu.

so they do not show on the 180 you read.