yes and it will grow each day until about day 50 . a nice thing now is coins are down so if you stick around until day 50 and coins spike after that you can do what I mentioned a few posts earlier. |
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Coins earned question???
Someone who mines 24/7 and has a mostly stable hash rate - How many coins did you earn from one of the last blocks found and what was your hash rate.
I see in the top 50 active miners it looks like a fair number of people are running maybe one S9 (hash rate shows as around 14). Assuming your machine runs most of the time what amount of coins did you get when the last block was found?
I am looking to see what a constant on S9 might earn when a new block is found and yes I know there are variables but just looking for an approx idea.
can't be answered variables are complex. but here goes if you mine it for 30 days in a row you will be full share. and that varies a lot. So pretend the pool hash rate is such that my 30 number is correct. at the 30 day point if pool hits a block you would roughly get 0.02 btc but earlier then that 30 day point you get say on day 15 15/30 x 0.02 = 0.01 btc so the pools average hash rate the networks difficulty determine how many days for a full share a full share is all ten shifts you mined for 24/7 look on the full stats page Time........ Thps Your Thps Your score 05/19____ 6,002 05/15____ 8,407 05/13____ 7,784 05/10____ 10,886 ....... Big hash rate took 2 days05/08____ 4,916 05/04____ 4,530 04/30____ 10,334 04/28____ 3,043 ....... .Small hash rate took a week04/21_____ 5,648 04/18____ 15,377 about 30 days pool hash rate is a big varible in 10 shift time period |
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ive known those built in windows tools exist but ive never actually tried them. im so used to reflect, its so reliable and ive been using it for so long, that i never bothered with anything else. being free for personal use helps of course  never thought to build a baseline windows miner image. good idea, that would save some time with all the updates and tweaks that need to be done for deploying a typical new rig. i wonder how well an image would tolerate a chipset change, like from B250 to Z370 or something. it did not do well on win7 but on win10 it seems to work. |
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ASICs are so much more efficient than GPUs
Take the new Z9 for example - 300W / 10,000sols 33,3sols/W
I have currently garage full of 1080ti-s - the most i get out of those is 4.1sols/W
What logic you have there, padawon. lol You know full well what most miners will do with the extra watts available for Z9 that would have been used for 1080 ti, don't you? They're going to add more Z9's. Then what? All you have to claim is, NETWORK MORE SECURE fellas. All while "centralized" BITMAIN is increasing the difficulty on all of you WHILE ALSO manipulating the price in exchanges because they hold majority control over mining in their own farms. What your propagating is BITMAIN's grand illusion. Yeah but most newbies are simply proxy accounts for asic agenda so while you are ripping him by simply pointing out the truth another back a mole will pop out. Bitmain is simply really big and can go after coins with no consequences to itself. They are a big business looking to accumulate much wealth as they can. I hang in there and do a little here and there but the truth is they will not be stopped at my level. FPGAS are not the answer Maybe a new way to spend gpu hash is needed. Not so much for me or you but for the sake of AMD and NVIDIA I will continue to mine with my few gpus and see what happens next I did cash a lot of cards out. Just going to sit and see what zcash does. |
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Hi guys, I'm newbie with T1. Ive got recently my Aprl batch with 5 of T1.
So, could you explain me , why I cannt specify stratum+tcp://bitcoin.viabtc.com:25 pool at the settings of device?
Is there any restirctions for pools?
What are the valid pools for mining?
not that one. ckpool.org solo.ckpool.org slushpool.com bitminter.com f2pool.com maybe kano.is |
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@ yankees yes. Lets say in 55 days you went from 0/55 to 55/55 share.
Lets say there is a really good price spike to 15000 a coin.
For the next 20 days if you jump from a 500% pool like ck's your share drops slowly like
55/55 of your 80th meanwhile the entire 80th shifted to f2pool paying pps so on this day you are doing 160th with only 80th in gear
54/55 " then on this day you are doing 54/55 = .98 x 80 = 78th + 80 th = 158th with only 80th in gear.
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So for these 20 days I mined 80th at f2pool and mined about 65th in banked hash from ck or 145th for those 20th during a price spike
At this point I put gear back at ck's pool
wait till it goes to full share of 55/55 then hope sooner or later for the price spike.
this works only on a price spike upwards but it is a powerful edge only found by mining at ck's pool and being at a full share when a price spike hits.
Some would argue the same can be achieved on kano's pool but he is not fee free.
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Hi,
Is this the official way to determine my current balance? Is there any page about the payout? I mine using 5 pieces of dragon t1 since 3 days and my postponed balance seems to be $25 which should have to be much higher!
So i'd like to know:
- what is the payout period (or what is the estimated expected payout period)?
- what is the minimum payout?
- is there any official balance or payout info of the pool?
It's very nice to be technical description of why this algorithm is good, why better then other etc, but for and average miner it'd be much important to know the current status of his mining, And there is not any such info on the page.
you just don't understand the method. it is on the page one. what you don't understand is the concept of 500% before you get full shares. here goes nothing. 80Th is 80000 gh the pool is 19ph as I type. http://ckpool.org/19 ph is 19,000,000 a full share for you is 80,000/19,000,000 or 0.0042105 of a each block made so 0042105 x 12.6 = 0.053052 btc. now the kicker is this 19,0000,000 earns 1.153 btc a day since 500% is the goal that is 5x 12.6 or 63 coins 63/1.153 = 54.64 days before you get full shares... you are at 3 days so 3/54.64 x 0.053052 = ? your current share is about 0.0029128 or close to 24 days. Your question is why is this method better then any other? the answer is no method is better then this one as long as the pool maintains okay luck. the pool is fee free the pool gives all transaction fees below is what 108 days of mining could do. notice 54 days to peak your share to full and then 54 days to zero the share out. this is really good if coins jump up in price once you peak to full.  |
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I'm still operating on the opinion that a small-scale miner, somewhere between single-chip and 1.4KW 85dB industrial gear, is the optimal solution for household-distributed mining. Something whose cost/hash ratio is not painfully unreasonable, that doesn't need to be air-conditioned to stay cool, and that runs quietly and unobtrusively. The only better household miner would be built into something that is supposed to generate heat anyway, but is built such that the hashcard heat elements are easily interchangeable.
Seems like adding overly expensive tiny space heaters to other manufacturers' household devices would be a heck of a lot more of a pain than just building 50-500W quiet miners.
But hey, if they're not going to that means more business for me.
Never gonna happen bro, and I think deep down you guys all know the reason already so no point for me beating a dead horse. If something can make money on a small scale, it can make money on a very large scale. The other option is to make the chips so commoditised and widely available that it no longer makes sense to invest in scale. Like say: If every single water heater/boiler mines Bitcoin........ Constituting something like 15% of the Network. Its still very far out though, and thats why I think we're all sitting pretty at the moment I was going that direction with TV sets. Since 1.4 billion have been sold since 2011. Space heaters boilers all lack internet. They do use power a lot. The delongi space heat is 300 600 1500 watts and is free of sound it has oil based radiator but it is fully dumb. The tv idea will use an extra 5 to 10 watts but many parts are in a smart tv. Of course the tv will be 1 or 2 chips. So maybe neither idea works. |
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Hi,
Today i posted a thread about opening a farm in SoCal but it was removed. I don't see it in history or anywhere. Any reason for that ?
Thank you
It was moved to alt coins. So go to your profile and check your posts |
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Mine the non-asic coins like:
Monero, Masari, or Nerva
if you only mine monero & rvn it's a mistake ..you only dump the price of the only coins "gpuminer-friendly" we must also mine zec, eth & all those others coins that didn't fork we mine and sell them to dump their price! (until asics are too many & difficulty too high for a gpu of course) wouldn't it make more sense ? Wow a really hard question to answer. The fail is not the miners. The fail is not bitmain or any asic builder The fail is not the gpu builder. The fail rests in the hands of developers. They had no real plan to resist asics. Btw Pow to pos back to pow with a fork each time you come back would encourage mine and hold to stake for the pos time period. And only in only mined coins good for staking. ETH could do this since asics don’t fully kick the butts of gpus. |
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Has no warranty bitmain does not use resellers
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that psu will do 1300 watts at 110/120 volts a 13th unit pulls 1400 watts
so it will not start.
but 2 boards should work as that is around 950 watts
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The dirty secret is that CPU/GPU mining is what drove the crypto expansion to this point. We mine coins through innovation, trade them, spend them, give them value because they are worthwhile to have and use. If you remove the distributed profit incentive then I think this is the end of the current "phase". Whether that is good or bad is not for me to say. Mining is what got most people here. A new era is upon us. Adapt or die.
so true and then bitmain mowed it all down and harvested the coins selling them off and driving the prices down. laughing all the way to the bank. but that is the way of the world. For me the only way to continue mining growth is to grow the solar with buysolar. We have an idea we will be trying it should be nice. Time will tell. |
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the 16 card had a special back plane and run not stop in a 95f room for 5 weeks zero issues rock solid gear. Just not that efficient. a 19 card build with carefully tweaked risers would be better power wise, but if all 1080ti's it would be hard to power or cool. it would pull over 3000 watts more like 3500. It would need 2 delta 2400 watt plus' We are talking about the 19-GPU motherboard that is ASUS B250 Mining Expert right? How do you figure that it would be hard to power 13pcs of 1080ti and 6pcs of p102 mining GPUs? I am of the impression that the ASUS B250 already has built-in ATX adapters capable of supporting up to 3 PSUs. Do motherboards have a maximum electrical load or are problematic with high powered rigs? I've only mostly run 1070s and 470s in the past. okay 19 cards 1080ti = 19 cables for the risers 38 cables for the cards or 57 cables. the closest to that using atx would be 3 corsair ax1500i they have 9 2x cables = 18 so three of them = 54 cables and $$$. and 4500 watts max If you went with 2 delta 2400 watts (very hard too find) and the better break outs https://www.parallelminer.com/product/x8-breakout-board-adapter-compatible-with-hp-750w-1200w1500watt-hp-power-supply-copy/you can do 4 of them or 64 cables this would work. but the delta 2400 is hard to find you could use other hp power supplies |
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This year I am no longer focusing on what gear to use.
But how to expand my cheap reliable power.
If the new focus is on surviving and counting on cheaper reliable power, what do you guys think about optimizing mining rigs with 19-GPU builds? From what i've seen most are simply running 13-GPU rigs with pure or mixed AMD / NVIDIA GPUs but i believe true efficiency lies in maximizing the 19-GPU capable ASUS B250 mining expert motherboard. With 19 GPU builds you save on electricity by running less motherboards, CPUs, SSDs, etc. Has anyone had any experience in using p106/p104 mining cards to build truly efficient 19-GPU rigs? I did have my hands on a 16 card beast did a review but it had the p106 which is like the 1060 it is simply not that efficient. the p102 is better but is costly https://www.tweaktown.com/news/61173/nvidia-p102-100-crypto-mining-card-5gb-gddr5x/index.htmlit is a modded 1080ti. I would have loved to have had the p102 that they were looking to build I may have kept it after the review. When it becomes more available to the public, i agree that the p102 will be a much better option. But i'm also interested in stability. Don't know exactly where i read it from, but some have said that 19-GPU builds are a pain to build and are a hassle to maintain? Does this mean 19-GPU builds regularly crash or require more constant attention compared to regular 13-GPU builds? the 16 card had a special back plane and run not stop in a 95f room for 5 weeks zero issues rock solid gear. Just not that efficient. a 19 card build with carefully tweaked risers would be better power wise, but if all 1080ti's it would be hard to power or cool. it would pull over 3000 watts more like 3500. It would need 2 delta 2400 watt plus' |
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This year I am no longer focusing on what gear to use.
But how to expand my cheap reliable power.
If the new focus is on surviving and counting on cheaper reliable power, what do you guys think about optimizing mining rigs with 19-GPU builds? From what i've seen most are simply running 13-GPU rigs with pure or mixed AMD / NVIDIA GPUs but i believe true efficiency lies in maximizing the 19-GPU capable ASUS B250 mining expert motherboard. With 19 GPU builds you save on electricity by running less motherboards, CPUs, SSDs, etc. Has anyone had any experience in using p106/p104 mining cards to build truly efficient 19-GPU rigs? I did have my hands on a 16 card beast did a review but it had the p106 which is like the 1060 it is simply not that efficient. the p102 is better but is costly https://www.tweaktown.com/news/61173/nvidia-p102-100-crypto-mining-card-5gb-gddr5x/index.htmlit is a modded 1080ti. I would have loved to have had the p102 that they were looking to build I may have kept it after the review. Many coins that exist to mine where only good because they let you use a gpu. I have a degree in accounting my wife has a 2x degree in economics and accounting. We are both concerned that asics and fpga's will shrink coins from the current https://coinmarketcap.com/The problem with this thinking is that a huge portion of those listings on coinmarketcap are non-minable tokens. There is a lot of opportunity for coins to grow their market cap and thus pricing. I think we are all hoping there will be some market shake-out and coins or tokens that really have nothing to offer and will go away, but it seems like the list of new coins and tokens is exploding. 1000 plus I think 1593 to be exact.
That many coins create a lot of trading opportunities
How many of those 1500+ are mineable though? more then 500 Maybe I will count them. 33 of the top 50 can not be mined. If that hold true ⅓ can be mined so 500? well of the top 100 76 can not be mined 24 can be mined if that holds true then 360 or so of the 1593 |
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I'm still operating on the opinion that a small-scale miner, somewhere between single-chip and 1.4KW 85dB industrial gear, is the optimal solution for household-distributed mining. Something whose cost/hash ratio is not painfully unreasonable, that doesn't need to be air-conditioned to stay cool, and that runs quietly and unobtrusively. The only better household miner would be built into something that is supposed to generate heat anyway, but is built such that the hashcard heat elements are easily interchangeable.
Seems like adding overly expensive tiny space heaters to other manufacturers' household devices would be a heck of a lot more of a pain than just building 50-500W quiet miners.
But hey, if they're not going to that means more business for me.
look the ideal thing for me is a quiet 600 watt miner. I have space for 100 avalon 841's and I could keep them cool but I don't have that much cheap power.. On may 31 my rates go up until Oct 1. 16.7 cents and zero benefit for the heat. Since all the solar power is used. 20kwatts anymore is on the buy expensive power method. No gear works well at 16.7 + 1.3 to cool or 18 cents a k-watt. I will be turning off all my L3+ on May 31. I will be using my avalon 841 and halong t1 in the solar array. I will mine with a few gpus. I will hope to get buysolar's new idea off the ground blended with the avalon 841's or with 2 L3+ or about 1300 watts. |
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I will offer you $650 shipped to USA 77055. You can pay escrow or ship first.
I can pick these up brand new with free shipping for $750.
650 is too low he said his is sealed and I know evga warranty transfers . so 700 is a good price it is 50 less then you pay for the same thing |
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