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2021  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 26, 2016, 02:31:37 PM
I tend to buy when the price is good for me too buy. I don't like to buy too soon because I usually don't like the outcome afterwards.

Every one wants and try to buy bitcoin for the cheaper price. right now bitcoin price is not cheap but it is still cheaper then before, if you tend to buy bitcoin for a good price I think this is the right time to buy.
there is no prediction about bitcoin. the price mey get lowered but the increase chance is higher then decrease,

Honestly we can't really determined whether the current is cheap or considered as high price to buy bitcoins.

As long as the current trend is concerned, we can fully analyze if that price can be considered to take some another accumulations of coins. More importantly is your guts of facing the risk after you did some buying moves. So if you feel it and you think your analyzations has strong basis then just go on with your decision.


The determination of the price whether it is high or low depends on the individual mindset, if one believes that the price will be better than today's price then we will look at the current price as cheap price, most people who can easily determine if the price is cheap are those focusing for investing in the long term.
2022  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: August 26, 2016, 10:09:59 AM
Most people are quite indifferent when it comes to bitcoin, but they also are indifferent when it comes to any other currency, so I can't say that there are many haters.

What I know is people only hate people but bitcoin is a system particularly an internet money without a life if we do not use it. People can say what they want base on how they look bitcoin but the reality is bitcoin is the future of digital currency.
2023  Other / Off-topic / Re: What to do with my signature campaign earnings ? on: August 26, 2016, 10:04:28 AM
to me the earning from a signature campaign is the best option to be used as pocket money and save your other earning that comes from your business job or any where else and invest it in bitcoin,
yes you are right signature campaign is one of the best option we had because we can earn there for free we can earn as much as how many we post but sometimes i has a minimum post where we can pay up to 0.02 bitcoin weekly this can help me too much where we can use it to invesst or to trade and many more
Well, amount of earning you just mentioned is not a big amount if you will ask me, that is only good for buying some of your wants. A pizza would be better to reward yourself with your effort in doing signature campaign, though the amount is really not big enough but we treasure more on that we can learn by staying active in this forum.
2024  Economy / Services / Re: [Opair] Signature Campaign - 6 Week bounty pool! on: August 26, 2016, 09:07:51 AM
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No, Lutpin changed the rules on the first post (about pay with btc, instead of XPO) and we already made the announcement in our thread.

Regards

So we will payed in BTC or in Opair?

On main site is "Overall, an XPO equivalent to 7BTC will be paid to all participants."
here is it will be paid in BTC.
When i was joining i was thinking that we will get opair.
What was a reason for changes ?
I think you guys will be paid in BTC. Let me quiote here the message in the first page from Lutpin.

"Overall, a bounty pool of 7BTC will be paid to all participants, as long as there are less than 125 participants by the end of the campaign.
However, if this campaign reaches 125 members or more, the bounty pool divided between everyone will be doubled, to a total of 14BTC to be paid."
2025  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will you do if you own 21 BTC? on: August 26, 2016, 09:04:42 AM
You could either hold it, which would be the best idea, invest it or gamble it, but I don't recommend any of the last two at the very moment, due to the recent price fluctuations.
Price fluctuations are normal and actually traders like that as they are making good money with bitcoin's price fluctuation. The price may rise and fall and that is normal again since the demand is not that consistent, but if we are investing for the future then it is a good move to buy now.
2026  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: August 26, 2016, 09:00:27 AM
i have a friend in my country, i know each other him trought social media (facebook). he is a successful trader that i ever known. he make bitcoin as your living and can completed he and his family necessary. even from his income from trading he take his family holiday to great place sometimes. i hope i also can be a successfull trader like him.
You should ask your friend on how to be profitable in trading, it is wise to ask from someone who has the experience rather than reading in online where we have no assurance that the method is really legitimate.
2027  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: August 25, 2016, 01:08:37 PM
I would choose to invest in bitcoin rather than gold because I think there is more potential for gain with bitcoin. Gold is very stable but there isn't much potential for it to make huge gains.
Gold is only for investors who have already achieve success and there is a big potential to earn with gold if you have a decent investment. We are just focusing maybe in bitcoin due to the fact that we only have a limited resources and we are ambitious enough to make good money out from a little investment which I believe could be possible for bitcoin since we are still in the early phase.
2028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: August 25, 2016, 01:03:38 PM
There's is no a risk-free investment because when you invest you risk 100% of you money or whatever you invest, but
I think investing in gambling is so 1000% risk, you don't know when it will you investment earn.
unless you are ready to accept that you lose some or worst whole of your investment in gambling dude..


Yeah in every investment, they sure risk everything on it to get some profit but investment on gambling, i dont think that it is that bad though because in the end house will always win so it is just matter of time until you get back everything and it is more secure than if you aim for ponzi and other investment though. This will be the same as gambling, just the opposite of it because we are playing for the house now
Although investing is boring because we are used to doing some action but what matters now is the money, investing is the one and only option to earn money in gambling as most gamblers are loser and those who invested in the house are enjoying the profit in the end.
2029  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: August 25, 2016, 12:54:36 PM
I've never spent Bitcoins in real life and I'm looking forward to buying something with btc
Same as you.
It sucks that there aren't actually any shops nearby that accepts bitcoin as of yet. I'm looking into starting a small coffee shop that accepts bitcoin as payment for my fellow bitcoin users in this city but I am lacking in capital since the space rental fees are quite too much for me to handle.

it is true that establishing business needs a lot of capital. i,m planning to established my own pizza and pasta restaurant and i will accept bitcoin a payment.
i hope i finish this project after 6 months and I will post here regarding my business that accepts BTC to encourage other user here to promote bitcoin as payment in physical store.
I will be glad to order from your store for a pizza, that action of your has already a great help to bitcoin for spreading the information that bitcoin is existing, I hope you can cater my order then and I hope your store can deliver pizza worldwide, that would fun, right? Grin
2030  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: August 25, 2016, 12:49:39 PM
Its not a good way to sell your bitcoin at this time cause theres a lot of problems bitcoin are facing thats why the price of it gi down.
yeah the price is going to come back pretty soon and then all the panic sellers will be sad that they decided to sell all their bitcoins and not hold for the price growths

I don't think that price will grow like anything in coming days as price is moving up very slowly so there is a chance that it may cross $600 in next few days.

I do not think so. The bitcoin price has been trading around the $570 level for some weeks. I think it will continue to do so.
it will grow more pretty soon because of that stability, in my opinion it is going to hit the new heights pretty soon, i hope that it will make me profit

After a few more months of consoidation, I think the price of the bitcoin could rise to $700 or even higher.
I am hoping for that dude because I am actually tired of seeing the price of bitcoin falling, I have not witness a substantial increase this month and I hope to see that in the following month so I can also earn a little profit in my short term investment.
2031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: August 25, 2016, 12:47:11 PM
You can earn more than yo can imagine but the way to that is very hard. Many have tried to earn big money in gambling but most of them failed to succeed. It is easy if you think but when you do it, you will realize your chances is not good to achieve it.

I agree with you, its possible  to earn  in gambling and sky is the limit and it really depends on your luck  when you play with it but same as others say thats not really easy at all since the  risk  involved is so high  that you would  actually lost your money in a fast way and thats not good about gambling.
It will only think inside the box you cannot win in gambling, it is true that sky is the limit but you need a method to win in gambling and not just an ordinary method as the gambling sites also adjust their system once it was abuse by the gamblers, so you also need to adjust yours, by only looking at the statistics (sports betting), that would not give you a big chance to win, you need to know the right spot and right value of team in a certain event. Sports bettors knows the term so we should study.
2032  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 25, 2016, 12:37:43 PM
having steady income from bitcoin mining with 2 gpu rig ( 10x Rx 480) is my plan before iam focus at bitcoin, i hope i can realize it in this year, so i can leaving my realjob and go full time on bitcoin in next year.

Mining is good if you can afford the investment and electricity cost, but most of people cannot afford it so they try their luck in trading and if you are good in it then you can afford to quit your job.

i can ROI ( Reach Of Investment) in 9month (after paying electric cost), i think it's a good investment, i know the bitcoin and altcoin price is unstable, but if we can mining and trading at same time we can get more profit .
Looks like you are both profitable engaging in mining and trading, based on the ROI of your investment is quite good as you can hit the return of your investment in less than a yea. What I know is mining is only profitable but trading is not a guarantee that you can profit unless you are super intelligent.
2033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 25, 2016, 09:27:40 AM
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Why does LebRon struggle against the Spurs in the finals

Is it coaching? Lack of volume scoring? I mean we are talking about the 3rd greatest player of all time! How can he only have 5 wins in 16 tries against the Spurs?
Does it show the dominance of the Spurs organization

Basketball is a team play. Don't rely on one and work as a team.

San Antonio Spurs works perfectly as a team and it was seen many times so it's a dumb to think that only one player can able to handle the Spurs. Team vs Team not Player vs Team.
Yeah! I agree, this season spurs are out in the topic, they are underrated not considering the acquisition of Pau Gasul. I think they will be a big threat in the west and anytime they can shut down the warriors, I love to see another good rematch for the spurs vs Lebron.
2034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 25, 2016, 09:12:27 AM
It is better still to wager a small amount of money although we lose but still enjoy the game. That's what matters in gambling to last in the long run, we need to enjoy all the time and treat losing as your expense to be entertain, pretty simple to understand if you are not desperate to earn money in gambling.
I agree with this, for those who are not addicted in gambling they can make gambling as their past time, if they lose then that's okay because they pay for the entertainment that they wanted, and it is also good when you win the jackpot unexpectedly, so you can also treat yourself in some other things. Like go to the cafe or restaurant.  Cheesy


That is why it is better if you are going to be on the balance position and you are going to be on the neutral and you are going to make gambling as your past time for sure it is not going to fix your life nor you are going to wreck your life. But if you are not able to control your emotion and you are going to be on rage then for sure you are just going to wreck your own life with it.
The bottom line is gambling wreck the life of the irresponsible gambler while it may fix the life of the responsible gambler. We are in the responsible group if we know hot to control our self in gambling and we can limit our loses while maximizing the entertainment we get.
You are right. If we know how to manage our money and to know how to control our self then we can lessen our loses when playing in gambling. But if we are responsible enough you can stay away from gambling.
The real thing is when you are coward enough you will stay away in gambling because there are people who are in gambling and doing a responsible gambling which makes them enjoy gambling in the long run, those who play it not on the right way are those complaining about the negative effects of gambling.
2035  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: August 25, 2016, 09:06:22 AM
Imao, no one in this world would consider helping some one in need, you would just wasting your time if depending on others.

That is why you have to save and to have many assets as you can so you won't be asking the help of others, though it's unavoidable to ask help, atleast if you have savings or assets  you have the guts to borrow if you need to..

not everyone in the world is rich or have a lot of money, so there are always people who need money, and finally forced to borrow money. even a rich country, still has a debt and always borrow to the neighboring countries.
Even rich people borrow money since we cannot control that there are times financial problem happens, some people think rich has no problem with money but they have high demand also due to their lifestyle.
2036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 25, 2016, 08:42:40 AM
Actually i never saw a man, who has rich from Gambling?
I m not playing gambling because i saw a lot of people who has lost everything in gambling.
So i want to ask if anyone is here how has rich from GAMBLING ??
First Of All Gambling Is Not A Way to Become Rich, The Only Way to Become Rich is Our Master Mind and Money If We Use Them Wisely.....
And Gambling Is always Depends Upon your Luck And  I Also Never Seen a Single Person Who Becomes Rich By Gambling.....

You know many peoples play gambling only for earn money in a hurry time, also you and me whenever play gambling so only for money. Instead we are saying gambling is a fun and enjoyment but main thing is that less time and earn a lot of money.
But your second point is absolutely right.   
The fact is we cannot dictate people to stop in gambling as that is their decision, regardless of their method that is for them and they are not kids anymore that we need to teach on what to do, once you enter into gambling you are already a matured person and you know your chances so it is fine to think that you can be rich in gambling as long as you know how to accept when you cannot achieve that.

You have a point and maybe some of the gamblers have have same aim in playing gambling which is to become rich with it. You are right we can't stop anybody on their decision on life because he's already aware on that certain thing when he decide to enter at hes also aware on the circumstances.
The reality is more gamblers are poor so aiming money is the goal for them. Gambling sites are earning money from the loses of the poor people as they are the type of gamblers who rely on luck in gambling and since luck cannot beat the advantage in the long run they lose.
2037  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 25, 2016, 08:33:48 AM
the best way to save money is to manage the money we have. we have to be clever in managing income and expenses. so we can save money to secure the future. investing in gold is also becoming one of the safest ways to save money you have.

Of course how can you save money if you don't know how to manage it in the first place lol.

Even how clever you are if the earnings is just enough, people will really have some difficult road to save money. It must be start with the root and that is find a decent source of income even you have to work for multiple works.

It is really hard to save if you do not have a decent source of income. But those who do not have decent work or source of income are those only who do not want to work. There is a lot of work you can do, if you really want to work, save, and have a good life.

Those people will likely have a hard time to save money since they aren't making such move to execute it.

If they will not start to think of a root plan on how will they able to save money then it's obvious they can't really do some saving the money thing.
you are correct mate if you are planning to earn but you are not doing concrete plan on how to do it you will not succeed, starting it by saving small amount instead of buying of a new shirt or pants just use your old ones and save the money from that perception you will start to value your money for sure if seen that your savings is getting bigger from time to time.
I love to learn from the comments here actually because I believe savings is vital and it is the first step to realize our future dream. Without savings we cannot move to our next plan and we know the best way to be rich is thru investment so savings is necessary.
2038  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: August 24, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Im investing small ammounts of bitcoin into some altcoins that i believe are under the real value, soo i will hold them till end the year atleast and then i will think what i will do if sell or wait a bit more, usually the savings returns good profits and almost without risk.

Holding it till the end of the year is a good thing to do as everyone is expecting higher price in the end of the  year so if we sell at that point that it can be really profitable.

What is your assurance then that holding it till the end of the year will give you good returns? Yes there are really lots of expectation but expectation alone will not make the bitcoin price increase. That's not how bitcoin price works for a higher price.

What if there are really big fluctuations of price increase months before the end of the year? Will you just watched it?

Its his money if he believes in holding it for long term then you cannot force him for anything, he can take decision according to his choice, if he wants to hold he will hold or else sell, no big deal.

The people that believe in holding long term understand the necessity of Bitcoin in the future and see the current scenario as a big opportunity to get rich as hell.

Getting rich with bitcoin is possible if price skyrockets in future, and bitcoin has potential to do that as we will see major development in bitcoin in coming years which will take price higher.
Well, there is a big chance as we already witness bitcoin is capable of doing that, it has more chances in the future because we are having a good adoption rate right now base on the continuing increase of adopters, anything could happen n so let us just trust bitcoin in the future and we just have to invest now.

So when the time will come that would be the time to sell, and do not hold on for more years if you have achieve your projection.
2039  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 24, 2016, 02:08:44 PM
depends if your a casual gambler or an addict like other and just remember gamble what you can afford to lose

Yeah, abusing gambling is really what makes gambling wrong... But if you do it occasionally, there is nothing wrong with that, but sometimes, even when you gamble few times a month or few times a year but if you do it like there is no tomorrow, that is still wrong.
It does not matter how long you play in gambling as long as you are getting the right happiness as expected. It is always fun if we were able to handle it right and when it is easy for use to accept the difficult thing for others which is losing.
2040  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: August 24, 2016, 02:03:33 PM
From 0.02 Bitcoin to 0.5 Bitcoin that only happen when i was lucky that day , I played slot that time and just trying random strategies that i see when i am searching for strategies. Withdrawed 0.4 and gamble 0.1 but unfortunately i lost that 0.1 after an hour but never deposit again Smiley

I guess you outsmarted the casino there by withdrawing you killings and not going back again. I guess you made a wise move in that. Using your beginners luck to win some bitcoins and never coming back. I hope you did not do any gambling after that. Gambling back on any site may cause you to be addicted especially you tasted a good win before.
That was a wise move by yours, you gained with that playing.  Even they  got 0.1 back on you but its still not a loss. You are definitely lucky on that day. Never ever to play again with  greediness because these thing would cause you money loss because you wont able to control yourself to bet because you already get addicted to it already.
The thing is we will never know that we are greedy until we lose, when in our interest to gamble is to earn money that is already a sign of greediness as we want the easiest and the fastest way to earn money and there is not other means than gambling. When we win we will feel that we are just doing what should be done but when we lose that is the time we determine our weaknesses.
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