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20281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to make your first bets safely on: December 01, 2016, 10:28:22 PM
I'm usually starting with faucet and try bet win 9900 multiplier , so I have zero risk of loss instead I can made big win using that strategy
Just using auto bet feature and let it work alone to see the final result
And OP suggested otherwise, he believes we should not start with too small. Anyways I think first bets of anyone should not be loose or emotional, I mean when we are first introduced to gambling we just think we are gonna win. When I first started betting on sports I had the same mindset.

That's a good strategy for trying your first bet for everyday.  Grin And its totally zero risk at all if you are doing it that way izanagi.

It depends on the gambler what he wants to believe, if he thinks he can start with big amount then go for it, but most of us believe that we can start with small amount.

what izanagi do is the same as what i am do when i am playing gambling, because i think i can not make deposit my money just for playing gambling and the best thing is we can get free money from their faucet, so i think its enough for me to start playing gambling games but sometimes i don't use auto bet because i feel not comfort while i use it.

but i wouldn't do with big amount and make deposit into the site, because i can be sleep well if i only get loss in the games so i will only use for free faucet from them and play until the money is empty on my balance.
20282  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏈🏀⚽ POWERBET.IO - Mobile version launched - Instant Withdrawals on: December 01, 2016, 10:21:16 PM
first time i visit on your site, the design its look professional website, clean without any ads, fast loading, and we can see the list of the each events. i am not yet opened it in my android so i don't know how its look but i am sure that its like what i see on my browser in my pc. good job sir, and success to you and your team.
20283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Guide me How do you guys analyse and pick your picks to bet! on: December 01, 2016, 10:13:51 PM
I play on sports betting. I think it looks quite easy to analyze on sports betting.

First we could see the last record and the latest information about the team.
Secondly we are betting on a big team, it's usually good to get a victory. Although it does not guarantee 100% will always win.
the third bet on a team that has a good record when they play at home.

i still getting hard to make analyze with the team, i think i am make something miss so i can not win like other people although i read about each team and listen about my friends opinion, i still miss one or two thing that makes me can not win. i think i will learn more about sportsbetting so i will not missed something again.
20284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: December 01, 2016, 10:10:01 PM
Well, you can use the amount you want, since the decision is up to yourself and no one can stop you, except yourself. But if you want to know which decision is advisable, it's investing only what you can afford to lose, that is, it is not advisable to invest an amount that can bring financial problems to your life. Everything you spend requires financial management, whether for investment or for fun.

yes its true and i really agree with you because we only make an invest with our free money and not to thinking too serious if that money wil be back for us or not, if that money is back to us then it will be good for us but if not, then we don't have to getting sad. better you thinking twice before to make any of investment

and if you only want to playing gambling with small amount then i think that its no problem and that is depend on you, how much you want to use your money, how much money you willing to loss.don't think too much if you getting loss.
20285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: December 01, 2016, 10:02:20 PM
Maybe find something New same as gambling like addiction.Also you should set your mind like this gambling will just make you lose money.No one can help your from get out of gambling only you can set your mind.Give time to your family and spends time on something interested in real life.Maybe you will be able to get out from gambling.
Agree there are some good gambling website to be addictive and you can try you another luck in another gambling sites i don't actually stict to one gambling website if i lose there then i will find another gambling website where i try to played with big amount to bring back what i've lost.

from your statement it is like you are just worsening your addiction from gambling it's ridiculous because you are giving a suggestion which contradicts the title of this topic and i don't see any good point from gambling from one website to another Grin by the way it seems like you are becoming greedy i think you should distance yourself from gambling for a while.

If that is his way then for sure it will teach him some lessons when he is already bankrupt. That's the only way to stop his greediness when he doesn't have anything to gamble. If those people who are really want to stay away or stop their gambling addiction will not follow some of the tips, then just let them lose all they got to teach themselves how to stop with their own help.

if someone has to be an addicted person in gambling then i think he can't take this lesson even if he is already bankrupt. his greediness is still in his mind and he only thinking about the gambling. maybe the one thing that people around him that really love and want this person to stay away from gambling is to take this person into a psychiatrist and clean his mind from the gambling, maybe brainwash will work for this person.
20286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: December 01, 2016, 09:58:26 PM
Gambling is not that bad, relax.

Maybe gambling is not that bad, but you can't relax yourself on it. Gambling is a serious thing, if you just play, not use your mind, Gambling will be a dangerous thing. And if you get addicted, well, it will wreck your life, slow but sure.
That's true, once you play gambling we just can't relax especially we are high bettors, but if you just play because you just want to enjoy and we are not aiming with the prize, well I think we can play gambling and we can relax with it.

And the most affected is not you but your family because when you are already addicted in gambling you tend to prioritize to recover your losses and you will set aside the things that you must do for your family. I've been with there and it always makes my head starting to heat up when they are talking to me about my losses. So, if you don't want to get to the point that your family wants to disown you. Then you must control yourself and don't get too much addicted with it.
I'm not sure if trying to control it would really work for someone who is addicted to gambling.
It could be a very slippery slope, you start out with small amounts, but over time you'll just end up spending too much.

If you're really addicted to gambling, it's better to seek professional help and try to quit for good.

if someone has an addicted gambling, then it would be hard to control his temper ego or his self because the only thing that this person want is how to win the games and if this is really happen then i am not sure that this person can quit gambling even for good reason. he need a lot of to do before he can really quit the gambling. and you are right about this person must seek professional to help this person so he can quit for good.
20287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 30, 2016, 08:23:10 AM
If you are just gambling just to have fun then the safest method for you to not to lose in instant and play longer is just bet small amount , just try to recover every loss you get then withdraw when you hit your target amount.

yes its true and i am agree with this. beside this, if you only want to have fun, the other option is don't make deposit on the site, just use their faucet which is free to the user and after you get it, just playing the games and hope that you can get win much of money from the site but its really impossible to get this.
20288  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading like professional. on: November 30, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
Like other said trading is professional skill but you should start in basic knowledge about trading before you become professional you need to start in basic trading and discover some methods how to grow your capital in trading.. it is not easy to trade but if you can learn to analyze and some methods that you can make profit and learn and discover new methods to increase your profit..
Yes you are right, to become a professional trader should start from the basic. To be able to learn and success in trading requires learning, and it requires a fairly long time. A professional trader already has a very long trading experience even more than two years. I believe professional traders never make mistakes in trade but they can overcome it.

and its need time before we can get success like a professional trader. beside that, we should ready to learn anything lesson from others experience and apply in our trading with a modification that can work with us. i think its normal if a trader make a wrong decision in trading and many trader to do this but with a good effort, they can get their profit back to them and continue to trading and make another profit.
20289  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin Cloud Mining with HashFlare on: November 30, 2016, 08:17:12 AM
Interesting:

Faucet and Casino are talking about well invested money.

 Grin Grin Grin Grin


Greetz
Steve

Ive totally given up on this thread.
I wait to see if I can make a ROI Smiley
To be fair tho, I have made some from affiliate sales, surely that is the way to go with Hashflare Smiley Cheesy


affiliates are always the way to go, but their generally frowned upon on this forum as they lead to mindless shilling (genesis style).
People hoping their only ROI is by getting others money involved. its one thing to gamble with your OWN money, but to sucker others in just to hope for your OWN ROI?
thats just disgraceful ;p

@ivan that's cool man, i just always took your previous posts very serious, your one of the people i feel knows much about this space. Its good to know you find them "moreso legit"

Alex, take a look at this if you have not already.

https://www.instagram.com/hashcoins/?hl=en

Make sure you load all photos. As you can see, lots of photos of a small mining farm together with people who run hashflare. So they mine something 100%. Can it be fractional mining? Yes, everything s possible, this is crypto. On the other hand why would they try so hard to BS us? It s much easier to act a classic cloud mining scam, take money and run.

Also, almost all of these people re on Linkedin, you can find their profiles, photos, names, everything. You can even connected with them and talk to them.

Finally, I have reached ROI with them in August and continue making money with them. It does not add much to their legitimacy but none of cloudmining scam companies lets other people make money cause they prefer stealing money.

To be 100% clear, I m not convincing or telling anyone to join them, your money, your decisions.



its good for you that you've reached your ROI and i hope i can follow you. for now, if we want to make deposit in cloud mining, i think we should be careful to choose because once we make deposit, it needs too long to reach ROI, almost 10-12 month for mining bitcoin, but if we are no problem with that, so you can choose the best cloud mining and the hashflare is one of the oldest of cloud mining that still exist until now, the other is genesis mining, eobot, and hashnest. so, the choice is up to you and don't regret if someday you get scam.
20290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 30, 2016, 08:12:27 AM
When I gamble i use faucet and I play on higher chance to win bigger like example if i have 0.05 btc I try to double with playing 0.01 btc on 66% chance until I get 0.1 btc I think that this method is better than using method like playing on 10% 0.01 btc but I prefer more only faucet gambling to not lose own money Cheesy

It is right, also it is more than better to lose our amount. But you know many people not do faucet, because they think it is time wasting and also many people don't know about it, Because we can do faucet in only online gambling, but in live gambling, we should mustily use our money.

But using faucet gambling is not guaranteed, it can give you free amount start to gamble. But in the end, you will just end up to losing.

And you just wasted your time for using faucets so for me that is not that smart but good strategy.

If you think that strategy is good for you then you can just keep on working with that strategy for we have our very own strategies.

i don't mind if in the end, i only get loss with the free amount from the faucet gambling. the point is i can enjoy when i am playing gambling in that site no matter i am get win or get loss. i only need to release my hard day with playing gambling games and so far its help me.
20291  Economy / Economics / Re: PayPal 21 days Hold, How to get rid of the hold? on: November 30, 2016, 08:10:29 AM
it will not gonna hold you down if you verify your account. I created my account and link my credit card and it takes some 2-3 working days i think to get it verify. they gonna charge you 3-5 dollars but it will be refunded . they're just making everything sure that you're account is a legit.
Well for me in my experience it takes 1 week before my account gets verified and i need only $2 for charge fee and yeah it get refund and transfer to your paypal accounts. i verified it in 3 different credit card  master card, visa card and amex which is virtual card for i never experience any problem yet..

Yes, account is already verified.

but I think it need more transactions to remove the 21 days Hold limitation.

if i am not wrong for remember, i am see on this thread that one thread is offering to solve your problem with paypal and here its the thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1681677.0, but i think you should be careful when you decide to make a deal with that guys, because he is newbie for the rank, and we don't know if he is really good or not to solve your problem. and don't forget to use escrow because its important when we want make a deal with someone.
20292  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Which bitcoin mixer is your favorite? on: November 30, 2016, 08:06:05 AM
i only know two which is good and work properly for me, the two is bitmixer and cryptomixer but i am prefer with cryptomixer. i don't know about coinmixer depend on that two sites before. so for now, i know 3 of the bitcoin mixer which will be a good option, 2 sites i have know before and plus 1 site that the OP giving to us.
20293  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How can I increase my limit of Trading on Poloniex?? on: November 30, 2016, 08:02:37 AM
You need to get verified, which raises the withdrawal limit to $25000

Edit: link: poloniex.com/profile

better the OP gets verified until level 3 because in level 3, we have increase our daily limit which is $25,000.00, i don't know exactly what its mean but i mean sure it will for the withdraw or deposit for daily that we can use.

to get verified until level 3, we only send some document and our ID to poloniex and then they will check it and once approved, then we can increase our daily limit.
20294  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make a successful Trade? on: November 30, 2016, 07:59:15 AM
I once demonstrated a trade procedure for a friend who was new in trading bitcoins.  All i did to make the trade successful was to introduce him with localbitcoins traders in our region.  And he said that was cool after successfully trading.
Trading concept is too simple. Buy cryptocoin through buy order. Wait for some newbie traders to do rush trading because they would afraid that rate won't go up.
Then once you bought some, sell it quick with a higher price than price you bought it.

the basic of trading is like that, and we can follow this method but if we want to take more profit, then we should make a good analysis about the trend of the coins from the market. how is the position of buy order and sell order is really matter to us to watch and analyze that to get the profit we want.
20295  Economy / Services / Re: !!! FREE EBOOK - CASH BLUEPRINT !!!! on: November 30, 2016, 07:57:05 AM
so anyone has read the book? what is your review of that book? because i can not visited on that link, its prohibited and i don't know why. maybe later i will trying to visit that link again and i hope i can completed the survey. anyway, thank you for this.
20296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin hashrate vs price on: November 30, 2016, 07:53:07 AM
litecoin has been sleep for too long until now, and for the mining, my last mining with my hardware is in july-august this year and i don't see that there is a good result as i only have small hardware. maybe if the other have big hardware with big hashrate, the result will be high and they can save it into their wallet and wait for the best price of litecoin.

but its too hard to mining litecoin for now, i think better to mining small diff but there is a good chance for us to get stable profit. i think the choice is like flo, maybe gulden is also good choice.
20297  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Bank??? on: November 30, 2016, 07:48:50 AM
There's probably not going to be anything like that in the future to be quite honest. There are some ATMs set up in some locations tho
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Coming Soon it will be occurred. The development of bitcoin Very Fast And Good. some companies already accept bitcoin as a prayer One Financial Media service them. This is a prospect in the future.

if this is really happen, then we as bitcoin user, don't have to controlled our bitcoin like before and its not god for us because i think that bank will applying some fee or some tax to us when we want to sending bitcoin which is more high than blockchain fee itself and its not good. with government involve in bitcoin, then it will many regulations that will not give benefit for the user but for government itself.
20298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: November 30, 2016, 07:18:44 AM
With all the FIAT sports books and casinos asking all kind of documents for verification pretty much you don't stand a chance to play there under the age of 18.

Totally different with bitcoin. Bitcoin is freedom for anyone. I don't know if it's bad or not bad for people to gamble under the age of 18 (personally I think it is bad) but bitcoin casinos and sportsbook allows this.

Since the person under 18 is playing with bitcoin, I assume he is smart enough to know bitcoin so I also assume he can differ good from bad.
I think it's bad to gamble for below 18 years age, if the person is really smart he/she wouldn't gamble at all. once they get into gambling they'll become an addict, it will ruin their lives. therefore the parents should keep an eye on their children and do the right thing.

its true about this and many fact that show teenagers playing gambling without the parents know. but i am sure that in out there, many gamblers that is under of 18 years old and they can win the games and collect the money.
20299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any cheap live Blackjack? on: November 30, 2016, 07:15:15 AM
i think the gambling sites is don't have difference in the amount and i think its about how comfort you playing gambling in every gambling site you've visited because when we feel we are really comfortable with the site, then i think its not about how cheap and how expensive we should to make a bet.
20300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: November 30, 2016, 07:11:56 AM
The best strategy is to not gamble at all, guaranteed 0btc loss Cheesy
but the question what is your gambling strategy? In this Gambling topic you must know and you must give some advice with your own opinion and for me, we can limit our loss if we also limit our bets when it comes in gambling.

if Omura choose to not gamble, then its fine but i think you should give another solution like teilwalL05 said so we can listen and maybe learn from you if you have a good strategy.

but for me, personally when i am playing gambling especially in dice games, i don't use any of strategy and i only use small amount and that amount i only get from their faucet. i don't have to make any deposit so i think i am not loss anything except i am losing my time to playing gambling.
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