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980 can't reach 200w, unless you do some extreme oc
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...BUT, i read a lot in reviews that the OC versions of the 970 suck a lot of energy compared to stock. In some tests the need 30-35w more compared to the 980 reference. It depends on the card/manufactor. waiting for good miner reviews too - and for me personally the energy consumption is the most important factor! i noticed that too, it seems that the oc version of the 970 isn't efficient at all if you compare it to the 980, and both oc end in the same consumption, which is strange maybe the 980 is even more efficient than the 970? maxwell 2.1 mounted on it in disguise lol |
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a me potrebbe interessare una scheda in questo momento, le altre le comprerei solo se il giochino del mining riprende a funzionare e in ogni caso non più di 6 schede
però max 320 euro, ma meglio 300
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sono sicuramente migliori per il density e la 970 è certamente superiore alle 750ti
visto che molto presto la si troverà a 300 euro(sta già a 325), 300 euro sono poco più di 2 750ti, però di default va 2.6 volte(basta vedere i cuda core), per chi ha più rig è una manna dal cielo, ti liberi di un bel po di rig e quindi meno consumi
il punto è che adesso non c'è profitto, se no le avrei prese al volo e quel sito li è una mezza truffa non durerà molto
...quindi tu al momento hai i rig fermi? neanche jackpot o nicehash? io cerco comunque di recuperare con i burst. beh vado in rosso se mino, quindi perché minare? anche l'instamine è inutile, io sto finendo di vendere il rig e le schede, intanto seguo la situazione, se vedo che la cosa riprende ordino le 970, semplice senza contare che le mie schede hanno gia fatto roi  |
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like chinese live only in china lmao
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ANNOUNCEMENT:
I have stopped mining this piece of shit crapcoin. I hadn't had a payout for DAYS with 10.43 TB of disk space pimping away, I was tired of the piece of crap Java miner hogging 9 GB of ram for two instances of mining, I'm tired of the developers' half-assed miner and having to do half the programming work just to compile and run the damn thing.
My 4 3TB Seagate Barracuda hard drives are on ebay right now for a VERY fair $340 and free shipping in the USA.
Furthermore, I predict that this crapcoin will never see 500 satoshis again. Anyone who tries to talk it up by saying things like "to da mooooooon", is a fool, an idiot, and a moron.
So screw this crapcoin and everything about it.
lol i stopped too, i'm waiting to return my hdd, to have free burst in the end this need 2-3 months to roi in the best case scenario, too much for me, i want to roi in less than a month hdd aren't like gpu, they can fail too easy, then you need to rma and all the bullshit that come with that |
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sono sicuramente migliori per il density e la 970 è certamente superiore alle 750ti
visto che molto presto la si troverà a 300 euro(sta già a 325), 300 euro sono poco più di 2 750ti, però di default va 2.6 volte(basta vedere i cuda core), per chi ha più rig è una manna dal cielo, ti liberi di un bel po di rig e quindi meno consumi
il punto è che adesso non c'è profitto, se no le avrei prese al volo... inoltre quel sito li è una mezza truffa non durerà molto
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dont trust most reviewers. especially gpu ones, they get highly funded by either amd or nvidia so are close to always bias and use old results, which we have been 50% performance jumps in 1 release
yeah, i'm waiting for a review of one of you, otherwise i must wait until i'll do one myself, but i'm waiting for a decrease in price, i never buy hw pieces at launch dont trust most reviewers. especially gpu ones, they get highly funded by either amd or nvidia so are close to always bias and use old results, which we have been 50% performance jumps in 1 release
I don't know how they do to even have a card... at the moment. ..Adn deffinately GTX980 cant consume 308W of maximum 180W by specification... right I didn't even pay attention to that... 308w is kind of a lot for card rated 165W... (with 2x6pin... meaning you can't get those additional 150w out of nowhere...) actually it isn't watt (it is written power )... must be some arbitrary unit... legit review indeed lmao |
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so what about 970 mining? no review for that, only 980 overpriced gpu?
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ragazzi chiedo un consiglio sincero a voi che ne sapete più di me.. ha senso che io venda due delle mie evga 750ti ftw a 120 euro (hanno 1 mese di vita, solo prima settimana di OC, dopo sempre stock clock per non rischiare) poi aggiungo un centello e mi prendo una 970?
lo so che una 970 va x3 750ti.. ma la mia perplessità nasce dal fatto che fra 4 mesi potrei trovarmi con delle schede superate perché escono i maxwell 16nm.. forse mi conviene tenere le 750ti fino ad allora?
anche se 300 euro (meno IVA che scarico) per una 970 mi ispirano molto molto..........
che modello di 970 sarebbe? secondo me conviene prenderla, le 16nm escono a marzo del prossimo anno come minimo, non è una cosa di adesso e poi di gpu ne escono sempre, anche quelle a 16nm verranno superate, nell'informatica è inutile rimandare sempre |
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non è buona, farà al massimo 1.5 x 750ti, è inferiore alla 280x
la 970 di nvidia consuma meno e fa 2.5 x 750ti minimo, forse, bisogna aspettare che venga ottimizzata
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there won't be any 200, we are stable, expect a rise, not anytime soon though
2xx by end of tomorows evening. so, where is your prediction now? there is no sub $350, like i said in many thread already, bitcoin is still 400% vs last year |
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mah...prima di buttare una Gtx750ti io ci penserei un pochetto....poi se decidete di buttarle mi offro come centro raccolta con ritiro gratuito Mi aspettavo qualcosina di più dalla nuova generazione...almeno un 4x con consumi 2x...vabbè sarà per la prossima. queste schede servono solo per il density, gia per quello stracciano le 750ti quelle che dici tu saranno le maxwell a 16nm, con quelle le 750ti saranno proprio da buttare, visto che il consumo sarà dimezzato rispetto alle 750ti |
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WTB burst. Large number 250k and above
What price? PM me your offers You can't sell large number on the exchange without driving down the price Looks like I'm the only one willing to sell to you. I hope 5k sat is a price you're willing to work with. 4900 sats last price from me Funny, Someone already sold it to me  Don't follow the crowd, be a smart trader. at 5k? i doubt you bought at that price |
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pull the plug, or just mine only at launch
otherwise you can sell your gpu and buy some 970 nvidia, which are much better than your 7950
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you mean 970? 980 is too overpriced, you will never roi
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For the most part small miners are of the game, this coin didn't go the way Id hoped.  Servers and data centers took over.
What's wrong with getting your own server? I'm pretty sure that there was a lot of GPU buying going on when all the other coins came along. But not only GPU's, but also efficient CPU's and mobo's to support lots of GPU's. I hope you're not scared of buying a server.. As far as data centers go, I doubt it. They usually don't stock up large on HDD's, trust me, I've looked at renting high storage servers, they're all either unavailable, or waayy too expensive. Also, running huge data center for this is a very big risk because of hard disk failure and reducing life span mining this coin 24/7. 6 months down the road. We will see how many people post their HDD die off here. We will know which brand is the best and worst    If they can't break even before hard disk eventual dead , they loss huge amount of money i think HDD mining downside compare to GPU is the hardware turn over rate. HDD turn over rate should be 2 - 3 times higher than GPU. In longer term, HDD mining could be more expensive than GPU mining because of hard ware failure I put my bet on seagate being able to break even before it die seagate is the worst i ever bought. had to rma 12 of 32 hdds during the last 2 years. wd only 2 of 60. Toshiba is the worst. Bought 6 of them once, 50% failed in under a week. I think mining relating failed is going to be directly related to people's stagger. If plots are optimized, I doubt a single sequential read of 1/4096th of the capacity every ~4 minutes is really going to do much, but the lower stagger sizes many people are using is bad news. There is a reason why most people are using small stagger. Because the tool available now take too much time and for some people the merge broke their plot. No, the reason most people are using small stagger is because they couldn't be bothered to use 64-bit java. The information to use 64-bit and why was stated clearly many times before the client was even released, and most people ignored it. This capped them to ~500 instead of the 8191 the java plotter allowed which although still not great, is much better. I am using 64 bit Java but anything above 2k stagger will crash my gpu driver. I am using NVIDIA 750 ti What we need is a fast merge tool which can merge 5-10 Tb in less than a day. Maybe a gpu merge tool A fast merge tool is important for miner because it help increase hardware life span in long term. The current merge tool is like the CPU plotter. Too slow for big TB. We need an upgrade you can replot faster than gpu plotter, with the last cpu plotter(13k nonce/minutes on my i5 haswell) |
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Pretty sure that the Win plot optimiser has fubar'd my plots again. Recommend not using.
Anyone who has used the latest cpu plotter can inform of max stagger.
Thanks
yeah the win plot is fucked up, create big stagger also, uselesses Amph Are you saying plotting with high stagger it is usefull? Why you think so? I'm replotting with 50000 stagger size with last cpu plotter... but if you explain me... I stop it. Thanks 50k is fine, but 1M is too high, with uray pool |
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alla fine ci fanno si 3 volte tanto, basta guardare che una 750ti fa 2.2mh/s e una 970ti ne fa 6.6mh/s
no va beh quello è un vecchio test, ora la 750ti fa 2500 senza oc, e la 980(non la 970) dovrebbe fare 7500 senza oc, solo che non è sfruttata a dovere, basta vedere la % di tdp, quindi vuol dire che in quella taella li sta consumando il 92% di 165w, cioe sui 150 |
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